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Uto

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Zerocalcare predicted: England and Portugal winners :devilish:
I predict the same things. For some reason France looks like it's just a single setback away from disintegration. They look like mercenaries instead of players who have their hearts set on fire. They could steer the ship back to shore against Australia, but that is Australia. England will make them doubt themselves. Portugal is just set up ideally to combat Morocco. Very well balanced team, has skill, but can also throw in some grit. They will need it, so did Spain, but Spain did not have it. Portugal does.

The heart? I want England and Morocco to win. I normally despise England, but normally they have players who are absolute tossers. Where are they now? I can't find them. It's a very likeable team. Morocco I don't have to explain. Go lions! Inspire us with your fighting spirit.
 

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I didn't comment about the first game yesterday.

I am still shocked that we managed to pull it off. I find it hard to believe that this is real.

We literaly made history according to statistics with this because we have never ever beaten Brasil before (our best previous result being a draw that happened like 20 years ago).

The people were ecstatic here in Dubrovnik.

With our previous wins, there was barely any noise happening.

But this time....my god.

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

People were in the streets, there were traffic jams, celebration etc.
 

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I didn't comment about the first game yesterday.

I am still shocked that we managed to pull it off. I find it hard to believe that this is real.

We literaly made history according to statistics with this because we have never ever beaten Brasil before (our best previous result being a draw that happened like 20 years ago).

The people were ecstatic here in Dubrovnik.

With our previous wins, there was barely any noise happening.

But this time....my god.

🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

People were in the streets, there were traffic jams, celebration etc.
Not so much where I live. But it's cold and non stop raining for the last 3 days.
Normally it would be crazy, people on the streets, cars driving and honking.
I don't know how it's in other countries, but this winter world cup definitely doesn't have the same feeling here.
 

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I don't know how it's in other countries, but this winter world cup definitely doesn't have the same feeling here.

Here it's absolutely crazy, never felt something like that, after each game there are people dancing, screaming, singing, running on the streets, it's really fantastic here

Also yeah today is the big day, today we can write history again, I really hope we can do this, I believe in our team xheart

DIMA MAGHREB xheart
 

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How is Eurovision considered to be "gay"?

I have never seen so many "strong" and "straight" men crying over winning or losing or just watching a match before.

It´s strange that crying whilst watching an utterly sad scene in a movie is considered weak (if you´re male) but all this whining and sobbing is part of the whole football experience.
 

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How is Eurovision considered to be "gay"?

I have never seen so many "strong" and "straight" men crying over winning or losing or just watching a match before.

It´s strange that crying whilst watching an utterly sad scene in a movie is considered weak (if you´re male) but all this whining and sobbing is part of the whole football experience.
For me being a female, I actually adore men crying - showing emotion, no matter in which situation. May it be during an emotional movie scene or their teams winning/losing. It is a strange thought anyway to say that crying males are weak. For me, it is a wonderful sign of strength to share tears.
 

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How is Eurovision considered to be "gay"?

I have never seen so many "strong" and "straight" men crying over winning or losing or just watching a match before.

It´s strange that crying whilst watching an utterly sad scene in a movie is considered weak (if you´re male) but all this whining and sobbing is part of the whole football experience.

You're attacking cultural patterns of masculinity that you probably already know are largely just a fabrication. Fact remains Eurovision is 'gay' just by association. When you look at who the Eurovision fans are, it's no wonder why that would be. It's just that this qualification should be seen as neutral or in this case I would argue even something to be proud of. The gay community (or perhaps I should say LGBT, you get the idea) has largely colonized what I consider one of the premier shows the world has to offer and it's been one of the driving factors behind its enduring success. People who see it as disparaging are just buying into the frame employed by ignorant people. I don't buy into that, you probably don't either. All we can do is challenge others who do.

tl;dr: I consider Eurovision to be pretty gay. Eurovision being gay is what makes it great.
 

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horrible refereeing in the NED-ARG match, left a sour taste in Dutch mouths
go hrvatska !!!!

(queen Maxima of the Netherlands has entered the chat)
 

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Yeah, such thoughts just came to my mind after seeing so many male fans and football players cry (out of joy or disappointment).

It´s just such a strange phenomenon.

Anyway, my family and I will be watching the Morocco match today.

I boycotted the world cup and even the German and Polish matches but dunno, since Germany is buying gas from Qatar... they can also get an additional viewer for a match or two.
 

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Well done :hr: , well done neighbors. Honestly, I felt like we were the ones on the field. Tactically speaking, a perfect match for :hr: . Dalić has once again shown that he knows how to play on a result and the :hr: team has demonstrated how strong it is both individually and collectively. There is a cult of the national team and the players believe in themselves. I'm pretty certain no other team would have the strength (much less the gut) to attack Brazil in ET after losing 1:0. But it paid off big time. This mental strength is a huge factor.

I honestly think the final isn't that far away either. I think the entire ex-yu region can be happy with this success.

As for the second match.......it was quite equal but :ar: had that one "additional" step. Even though I initially thought :br: will easily take the trophy here, the lack of discipline and underestimation of every rival they played against cost them the elimination. :ar: doesn't have that problem but it won't be easy against :hr: for sure.
 

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I honestly believe that most Slavic people can support :hr: and most Arab fans can support :ma: - we haven´t seen any Slavic or Arab team win the world cup before and it would be a great moment in (football) history, imo.
 

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Even though I predicted and said a lot about yesterday's matches, I'll continue to make a few more technical comments xqueenbitch

Watching Croatia play I saw a team that knew how to be solid but never played defensively. If you have observed well, the team was all forward to clog the spaces, undermine the Brazilians' lines of play to prevent them from dominating the pitch and to try to score. Only and maximum three defenders in defense I have seen in the Croatian ball possession phase. Obviously, when Brazil took possession of the ball, the Croatians retreated quickly with a lot of sacrifice and energy expenditure. I also liked the Croatian game textures and dribbling that had nothing to envy to the Brazilians. Croatia is a team with a high technical rate. Well, whoever thinks that "little Croatia" has achieved a great feat is half right. Let's be objective: Croatia before the breakup of Yugoslavia was part of a nation with a great footballing tradition. I have always considered Yugoslavia an "uncrowned world champion". Eastern Europe, in terms of quality and quantity of players, has nothing to envy to the much-vaunted South America. I continue by saying that the Croatian football revolution showed its beautiful flowers already in 1998 in that wonderful national team of Suker. Later Croatia continued to work and gain more and more fame at European and world level. Excellent performances and placements have placed this nation among the best in circulation. Therefore the 2018 final and the current qualification for the Nations League Final Four and world semi-final are not the result of luck, a golden generation or impeccable form: they are the result of a program that the Croatian federation has been able to follow with large capacity. The Croatian victory over Brazil was less unpredictable than they thought. Those who believe that Morocco can continue its fairy tale today will be disappointed. The one obtained by Morocco is the first flower of a job that started in 1998 which, if looked after well, will bring future satisfaction to the North African national team. Portugal, while boasting a better palmares than Croatia, is in a state of space form. The Portuguese revolution has reached its end and now it's time to reap the benefits and be the best in the world. Portugal are too complete, they have too strong players in every part of the field, too clear ideas and a type of game too hostile to the Moroccan one to be able to lose. I'm not saying that Portugal will win with a goleada but a clear 2-0 before the end of regular time could be probable. Ah... I forgot... Argentina won a "grumpy game" yesterday. Before the shootout my dad said to me "Who do you think will win?" and I replied "I don't know. I could be wrong but Argentina are favourites. The Netherlands had to work too hard to recover two goals and could therefore be less lucid". When I saw Virgil approaching the penalty spot I said to my father "Letting the defender take the first penalty is a mistake. Historically, except for a few rare specialists, defenders have never been excellent penalty takers. After such a tense game the defenders , where they had to hold back the opposing forwards for 120 minutes, are out of breath and consequently have little lucidity". And... Virgil missed the penalty. There the mountain became too steep to climb and Argentina took advantage of that. The refereeing wasn't excellent but it wasn't bad either. Yesterday's match was difficult to referee because there were two teams on the pitch who fought each other bloodily from the first minute. Having almost reached the end of my considerations, I tell you that in Italy, where many support Argentina because they are blood relatives of us, we don't like the Albiceleste game, don't like that Scaloni is a puppet in the hands of Messi and don't like the arrogant and mischievous, at times, of the Argentines. I think Croatia could lose against Argentina because they have two overtimes and as many penalties on their legs. However, I believe that if Argentina crosses a coach who knows how to get the players to follow him and who has tried and tested playing patterns, they could suffer a lot (the Croatian coach is in fact very good but... even an honest tradesman like Southgate could make Argentina live moments nightmare).
 
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Fact remains Eurovision is 'gay' just by association.

The gay community (or perhaps I should say LGBT, you get the idea) has largely colonized what I consider one of the premier shows the world has to offer and it's been one of the driving factors behind its enduring success.

I think "colonized" and "gay just by association" are not the right choices of word here.

None of the Eurovision fans around me became fans of the contest because it's colonized by gays or because it's 'gay' by association, somehow naturally we all gathered in this fandom, as can be confirmed by most users in this forum. And most fans who have been following the contest closely since childhood actually realize the gay aspect of the show long later. It's still a mystery to me how we all ended up here, I think it's the combination of a set of aspects that draw all these gay esc fans together, such as geography (another observation I made is that many esc fans follow world tournaments but not the domestic leagues, the countries facing off each other is the charm of it), scoring things, pop music (particularly key changes and dress changes) and stan culture. And also gays are in general more into learning about different cultures and languages. Eurovision just ticks so many boxes.

Eurovision is not gay, it's the most watched show in Europe. but Eurovision fandom pretty much is, with all due respect to exceptions. These two are separate things. And we don't really aim to colonize eurovision, we just found ourselves here organically.
 
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