EUROVISION 2020 - General Discussion Thread

[escYOUnited]

Please post any and all discussions regarding the contest itself, host country and city, organisation, rumours and other topics not related to any specific country's selection process.

 

[Uto]

I noticed that when I try to recall a song sent by a country in 2019, i cannot remember half of them and instead 2018 ones pop up in my mind. hopefully 2020 will be more memorable

I kind of have that with the last three editions of Eurovision. As if the world stopped after 2016. I know the Dutch entries, but all the rest is pretty hazy.

 

[crashworld]

Is this year going to be one of the worst ever editions for ESC? The 11 songs that have been released so far, none of them has met my expectations.

If I am going to group these 11 songs into bands - "Excellent", "Good", "Decent", "Mediocre" and "Bad', none will make it to the "Excellent" band.

"Excellent" - None
"Good" - Lithuania
"Decent" - Norway, Spain, Australia, Belgium, Albania
"Mediocre" - Italy, France, Czech Republic
"Bad" - Latvia, Armenia

 

[Uto]

Is this year going to be one of the worst ever editions for ESC? The 10 songs that have been released so far, none of them has met my expectations.

If I am going to group the se10 songs into bands - "Excellent", "Good", "Decent", "Mediocre" and "Bad', none will make it to the "Excellent" band.

"Excellent" - None
"Good" - Lithuania
"Decent" - Norway, Spain, Australia, Belgium
"Mediocre" - Italy, France, Czech Republic
"Bad" - Latvia, Armenia

Usually this is your memory playing a trick on you. Things in earlier years were not much better at all, but you tend to remember only the good and the really bad. Might also be that you're just clinging to genres and there are not a lot of songs in certain genres you like.

 

[crashworld]

Usually this is your memory playing a trick on you. Things in earlier years were not much better at all, but you tend to remember only the good and the really bad. Might also be that you're just clinging to genres and there are not a lot of songs in certain genres you like.

Perhaps. But it's very rare that I have yet to really like a song even 11 songs have been released. Last year, at least I had "Wake Up" to tide me through till the rest caught up. I wish someone kept track like the order of songs announce each year so I can have a reference how early/late into the entrants announcement schedule that we have some sort of an idea how strong the competition was like.

 

[Uto]

Perhaps. But it's very rare that I have yet to really like a song even 11 songs have been released. Last year, at least I had "Wake Up" to tide me through till the rest caught up. I wish someone kept track like the order of songs announce each year so I can have a reference how early/late into the entrants announcement schedule that we have some sort of an idea how strong the competition was like.

Well look at it like this: There's 11 songs, 1 does something for you now and let's say 2 of them are growers that manage to stick at some point. That's still a 27% success rate. If the rest of the songs is normal and you normally like half the songs, it will still go up to something like 45%. There's also the point that for most songs you are now missing the audiovisual spectacle of seeing it performed with full blown staging. Most songs become significantly more impressive given the quality of the staging most countries have.

 

[Loindici]

Why do I feel the winner of this edition will be an unexpected country

 

[Uto]

Why do I feel the winner of this edition will be an unexpected country

Well, there hasn't been anything in the same range as Arcade or Soldi. We have a couple of songs in the tier just below though.

 

[crashworld]

Well look at it like this: There's 11 songs, 1 does something for you now and let's say 2 of them are growers that manage to stick at some point. That's still a 27% success rate. If the rest of the songs is normal and you normally like half the songs, it will still go up to something like 45%. There's also the point that for most songs you are now missing the audiovisual spectacle of seeing it performed with full blown staging. Most songs become significantly more impressive given the quality of the staging most countries have.

Agreed with you. Usually I will give my comments based on studio recordings (ie. initial impressions) and then another set of comments after once the stagings are more or less finalized. Of course, it should be understood that comments made now are as of now. It's always subjected to change. But as of now, the 11 songs haven't impressed me yet and give me the impression that we are heading for a weak edition.

 

[Mainshow]

Usually, I am the eye-rolling person when people say it's going to be the worst edition ever because I hear that every year. Especially back in 2018, this was such a reach because personally, I think it was the best year ever (songs-wise).

However, before the entries from Lithuania and Belgium, I thought the same - I was worried about getting another 2002 fiasco but it seems that the convincing entries started to keep coming in + I have faith in Ukraine and Polen later this week.

Also, we shouldn't forget that Armenia, Albania, the Czech Republic will get a revamp.. That's why I guess the first Eurovision phase this year was some sort of "demo-ish" kind of stage and we still have 30 entries to go (75%).. You all (me included) will surely find more favourite entries soon.

 

[Citelis]

Every year people say that this is going to be a terrible year. Some people are never happy. So far there are several interesting and good songs.

 

[Edweis]

I found a lot of songs I liked in the NF's line-ups, so it's already better year than 2019. The selected entries so far have been mixed, with some I like a lot and the rest in the middle of the road, so I'm not worried. If by the end I love my top 8 (and not just like them) then it would be an extremely good year. For comparison, in 2019 I loved 5 and liked a dozen other.

 

[EscGeek]

Every year people say that this is going to be a terrible year. Some people are never happy. So far there are several interesting and good songs.

But they're not always the same people.
2019 was below average in quantity and i still stand by that.

 

[Romeo]

21 days left until the deadline
30 songs still to be released
1 very excited Romeo

 

[anto475]

People need to calm down. On average since 2000, the winning song was released 77 days before the contest. We're 88 days away. Statistically we should know the winner by the end of the month, unless we have a late reveal like 2014.

 

[Uto]

People need to calm down. On average since 2000, the winning song was released 77 days before the contest. We're 88 days away. Statistically we should know the winner by the end of the month, unless we have a late reveal like 2014.

If the winning song has yet to be revealed, shouldn't we get hyped up?

 

[tuorem]

People need to calm down. On average since 2000, the winning song was released 77 days before the contest. We're 88 days away. Statistically we should know the winner by the end of the month, unless we have a late reveal like 2014.

San Marino haven't set a date yet, so you may be on to something there.

 

[Mainshow]

San Marino haven't set a date yet, so you may be on to something there.

It just got announced that the Greek entry "SUPERG!RL" will be released on 1st March and one of its composers said it has the means to win Eurovision.

 

[jatojo]

I think the level is high this year. A good mix of songs based on strong choruses and songs based on a particular rhythm and "vibe". In fact, I'm sort of hoping for some bad songs so I won't feel sorry for too many artists in the semifinals.

 

[SwedishFailurez]

It just got announced that the Greek entry "SUPERG!RL" will be released on 1st March and one of its composers said it has the means to win Eurovision.

This is what the French delegation thought about their entry too, but the song isn't that great...
We will see what Greece has in the pipeline this time.

 

[Citelis]

The last time we had an entry <<that could win>>, we finished 14th in the seminfinal!