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Citelis

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Some people are not ready to hear that their favourite song is the ultimate garbage for someone else!
 

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Some people are not ready to hear that their favourite song is the ultimate garbage for someone else!

I am ready to hear it as long as the criticism is constructive. Just saying that a song is loud and pure screaming isn't enough. Also one should not only write about the music, but also about the lyrics and the staging. Then I would understand.;)
 

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I am ready to hear it as long as the criticism is constructive. Just saying that a song is loud and pure screaming isn't enough. Also one should not only write about the music, but also about the lyrics and the staging. Then I would understand.;)

But maybe someone only cares for the music and for the lyrics! Some people like me don't pay much attention to the lyrics. People are different that can have too defferent opinions! Anyway i didn't saw what he wrote and people got so annoyed!
 

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I am ready to hear it as long as the criticism is constructive. Just saying that a song is loud and pure screaming isn't enough. Also one should not only write about the music, but also about the lyrics and the staging. Then I would understand.;)
But everyone judges music differently, and for some (including myself) the songs are the most important thing, or only thing, to go by when judging entries. It doesn't make that ranking any less valid, it just means that is how that person judges songs and music. The thread clearly says it's their ranking, it's not some official ranking on Eurovision.tv. And since Eurovision consists of a lot of songs in languages you don't understand, lyrics are quite irrelevant in Eurovision. The only people who have to have constructive critique when criticizing music are professional music critics. ;)
 

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Then I am really different in judging songs ... especially in ESC I care for all three aspects (music, lyrics and staging). I love to see if the three aspects connect well with each other. All right then. But then at least while doing the ranking he should also show a little respect for the musicians and shoiuld not use harsh words. That's what I didn't like. Then we are okay.

P.S. You can google translations of songs when they are in a different language. I know ... most of the People don't do it. But I actually think lyrics ARE relevant at ESC. I am not sure if Netta would have won without her Me-too debate.
 

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send [MENTION=5343]nallasofus[/MENTION] a PM cheer!

Jumping on new or returning members just feels awfully wrong whatever reason. They are almost always off in some way. Starting commenting as a new member with a grand entry may be tempting, rewarding if successful but with a high risk of failing and being awkward. Being a returning member myself numerous of times, I know how different things can appear from the outside while you are being passive, from when you are engaged. It's not difficult to understand and I think we all know this.
 

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I never managed to see the ranking [MENTION=5343]nallasofus[/MENTION] made, and maybe such rankings should be put in a specific "forum members' ESC charts and rankings" sub-forum instead? In fact I think it could be a good thing to open in this forum and a place where all forum members that want to share their rankings could start their own personal ranking threads (I think the admin/mods could look into that). I see nothing wrong in wanting to share your ranking though? Maybe this wasn't the right sub-forum for it, but the way some reacted is a bit odd and very discouraging. I think it was clear from the get-go that it was a personal ranking, we all have our personal taste and why would anyone be attacked for sharing it if that's what they want? I think there are many threads where we can "passionately" discuss our different opinions on songs, but is a thread started to present a personal ranking the right place to do so? Music taste is subjective in the end of the day, your favs might be someone else's nightmares and vice versa.
 

Alaska49

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i do not take responsibility for the damage i will mae in your lives if we get a ranking board though

y'all know how opinionated i am and i LOVE a good old list. i am afraid of myself in such an environment.
 

musicfan

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I never find ranking that useful, how do you decide if a song is one place ahead of another? Is it worth the time trying to figure it out? I either like something or I don't, and stuff I really don't like I just forget about and don't hear again.
 
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