94ayd said:
Kinda see it with Marija, but how can you say Alexander had no show. The weird dancers and his violin, as well as the backing singers who were walking all around the stage. And even Marija had her overemotional backing vocalists, while they weren't visible on stage when Lena was performing.
Well, IMO, that can hardly be called a "show" especially if by show we consider something like Sakis had last year. Anyway, I think Rybak had no fancy show, or no show at all on the stage. He won purely because of the song and not because of violin or dancing gimmicks. If we look that way, than none of the ballads or the slower songs this year (some faster ones too) didn't have a show either. Marija had a "show", but I'd rather call it a "stage presentation", which can be applied to Rybak as well, and that is a lower form of presentation than "the show". Just my opinion of course. The only thing I see as a show there indeed are fireworks at the end.
JackBauer said:
I only don't like Serbia 09 and i consider 2007 & 2008 as true masterpierces.
I love 2010's entry also,(well not at first because of haircut
) i just pointed out it did better that a lot of country because of some friendly's voting in the final that's all,i could have use the russian's entry for sure, it's a better example.
I said Finland, Norway, Germany & SERBIA were all deserved winner who got points from all europe if you read me correctly :? .
Yes, I understand that, and like I said you are free to have your opinion and even hate all of our entries, it's all your right ( I also think we had a pretty bad song in 2009, and it didn't deserve to go through), and that is not why I reacted (if that was the reason than I would certainly react on each and every negative comment, but I don't. People have different tastes).
The sentence "Blame the Serbs, for example...." is what made me react. I also think Russia is extremely overrated this year, and didn't even deserve to qualify. But I never said "Blame the Russians, for example......". I also liked almost every Russian entry in the past (forget about 2008 and 2009
), and most of them deserved the placement they got (the accent is on "MOST", and it is yet again my own subjective opinion). I liked the French entry a lot this year, as well as last year's entry which grew on me after a while, and both deserved great results they got.
JackBauer said:
Now there is no denying there is an Armenian, Russian, Serbian diaspora and so many other voting for you no matter what, even if they songs are amazing or very bad lilke 2009.
That is certainly true, but those aren't the only "diaspora's" in Europe. And in particular, the Serbian one didn't show itself very much these last 2 years. I consider 13th place a very good result, left half of the scoreboard, and the golden middle. Last year Kon didn't pass, as expected and deserved, and I see nothing really bad about it. Also, none of the ex-yu countries made the top 10 this year.
JackBauer said:
I don't want to seem disrecpectful at all the Serbians fans around here, and why i am at it Turkish & Greek fans (& i will spend a few days in Istanbul & Athens also this summer by the way) but a very few of you act like it's a personnal attack on you & your country anytime someone dislike your song and say you're enjoying friendly votes and i think a lot of you need to grow up on that.
No, I didn't take it as a personal attack, even if that seems so, I explained above why I reacted so. It wasn't anything that was supposed to be provocative. I just wanted an explanation, because I saw that you wrote that same thing a couple of times in the past too (where I ignored them, but yesterday I couldn't). Now that I got it, everything is clear
Cheers
