Belarus BELARUS 2021 - not taking part

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[hijirio]

The EBU isn't organize by EU and EBU hasn't nothing to do with EU.

So for you it's acceptable for the EBU to allow a broadcaster run by an illegitimate government, according to most of the participating countries which stand for democratic values and human dignity.
For me it isn't.
Simple as that.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

So for you it's acceptable for the EBU to allow a broadcaster run by an illegitimate government, according to most of the participating countries which stand for democratic values and human dignity.
For me it isn't.
Simple as that.

By that logic we would have to say goodbye to Russia and Azerbaijan as well

 

[hijirio]

By that logic we would have to say goodbye to Russia and Azerbaijan as well

No. Their elections have not been rejected.
Authoritarian or not, those governments are legitimately recognized by established democratic institutions.

 

[theditz83]

This thread makes me uber-sad so I bid it adieu - politics belongs in government, not in Eurovision.

Signed, Idealist from Scotland

 

[heke1988]

So for you it's acceptable for the EBU to allow a broadcaster run by an illegitimate government, according to most of the participating countries which stand for democratic values and human dignity.
For me it isn't.
Simple as that.

Where I said that?

No. Their elections have not been rejected.
Authoritarian or not, those governments are legitimately recognized by established democratic institutions.

For your previous point " according to most of the participating countries which stand for democratic values and human dignity." Especially Russia doesn't stand for democratic values (their elections are also rigged and opposition has been silenced or its members have even tried to murder by government). Also Russia doesn't value human dignity: they like Belarus government arrest their citizens, if they protest against government.

 

[hijirio]

Where I said that?



For your previous point " according to most of the participating countries which stand for democratic values and human dignity." Especially Russia doesn't stand for democratic values (their elections are also rigged and opposition has been silenced or its members have even tried to murder by government). Also Russia doesn't value human dignity: they like Belarus government arrest their citizens, if they protest against government.

this is going off-topic, see you in the politics thread later.

 

[heke1988]

this is going off-topic, see you in the politics thread later.

You started it and I am only answering your comments and claims.

 

[FilipFromSweden]

No. Their elections have not been rejected.
Authoritarian or not, those governments are legitimately recognized by established democratic institutions.

We were talking about democracy, you ever heard about Navalnyj?

 

[heke1988]

Imagine if their new song ends up being even worse than their original one, lol. But I guess it cannot be more offensive at least.

"Lukashenko" as a title of the song would be more offensive. Imagine some lyrics of this song: "Luka-, Luka-, Lukashenko!"

 

[Mimmon]

Belarus: Galasy ZMesta submitted 2 new songs for Eurovision - Eurovision News | Music | Fun

Belarus selected representatives have submitted two new songs to represent the Eastern European country in Rotterdam. Galasy ZMesta sparked controversy for the song they initially selected song. In an interview for STW Dzmitryj Butakou, leader of Galasy ZMesta told that the band had already...

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Great both songs gets 0pts

 

[hijirio]

There is no problem because we write 2 songs a week. We already have six ready. We chose a few and sent them.

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[BorisBubbles]

I mean before we cast judgment, let's remind ourselves that this is a board that loved Hvala ne and Cutting the wire. Not that I would *dare* imply Galasy ZMesta are of the same calibre, but you know... it may not be completely terrible.

 

[harey]

What's wrong with Hvala ne?

 

[Mainshow]

I -----
I don't know what to say.

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I hope they will release a whole EP filled with songs about Soviet themes #Soundtrack4Gulag

 

[crashworld]

I won't be surprised if one of the 6 songs is titled "To Lukashenko, With Love".

I have found the "perfect" candidate to be the 2022 Belarusian entrant.

 

[Lance Esgard]

Given what the band has said about how they write two songs a week, I doubt we are in for anything of considerable musical quality or poetic charm.

I wouldn't be surprised if the new entry was technically non-political but highly 'patriotic'.
We'll see.

 

[Grinch]

Given what the band has said about how they write two songs a week, I doubt we are in for anything of considerable musical quality or poetic charm.

It's Eurovision, what musical quality or poetic charm are you talking about?

 

[Iker]

It's Eurovision, what musical quality or poetic charm are you talking about?

So you tell me that Eurovision entries as a rule of thumb are devoided of musical quality or poetic charm?

 

[mauve]

It's Eurovision, what musical quality or poetic charm are you talking about?

 

[Jopi]

It's Eurovision, what musical quality or poetic charm are you talking about?