Belarus BELARUS 2021 - not taking part

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[Sammy]

There's a thing you should understand: If your culture weren't harmed about culture appropriation and racism, you have NO right to say what you think it's culture appropriation/racism and what's not.

Sorry I wont open that toxic discussion. Had it far to often, but obviously I disagree. The fact that you attack me already in your first response speaks for itself And is the reason why I don‘t want to go on with that.

 

[rasmuslights]

There's a thing you should understand: If your culture weren't harmed about culture appropriation and racism, you have NO right to say what you think it's culture appropriation/racism and what's not.

well but why should we listen to only one group of black people and not the other. There are also black people who think cultural appropriation is bs. few videos to support that claim:

Cultural Appropriation is Bullshit - YouTube
Cultural Appropriation (Only Bad When White People Do It) - YouTube
Cultural Appropriation is some bullshit - YouTube

I found these videos in like 3 minutes.. so your argument is invalid unfortunately, or do you have any video proving that every black person believes this is wrong, if you don't then I think I'm right.

 

[MiraWarninyi]

The fact is also that 10 years ago none of this bs even existed.

Yes, it does existed (and even prior to 10 years if you ask me, black lives matter is not a thing created last year), you just weren't aware of it (or couldn't care less about it because it's not relevant to you).

 

[rasmuslights]

Yes, it does existed (and even prior to 10 years if you ask me, black lives matter is not a thing created last year), you just weren't aware of it (or couldn't care less about it because it's not relevant to you).

I'm not talking about blm or activism for black people. I'm talking about cultural app. and also again what do you think the black people that think that this is bs? I want you to answer to this question please And why should we agree with a particular group of black people and not the other?

 

[Sammy]

How about moving the cultural appropriation-discussion here to the politics- thread? I think it has stopped being about Kaza...

 

[MiraWarninyi]

Sorry I wont open that toxic discussion. Had it far to often, but obviously I disagree. The fact that you attack me already in your first response speaks for itself And is the reason why I don‘t want to go on with that.

It wasn't directed to anyone, but as you feel harmed then my post is just proved lol

 

[MiraWarninyi]

well but why should we listen to only one group of black people and not the other. There are also black people who think cultural appropriation is bs. few videos to support that claim:

Cultural Appropriation is Bullshit - YouTube
Cultural Appropriation (Only Bad When White People Do It) - YouTube
Cultural Appropriation is some bullshit - YouTube

I found these videos in like 3 minutes.. so your argument is invalid unfortunately, or do you have any video proving that every black person believes this is wrong, if you don't then I think I'm right.

I'm gonna take a look and see the reasons, but since you had the will to search for videos on youtube then please go search for the articles talking about cultural appropriation, I'm sure there is more than 3

 

[crashworld]

and also why would you apologize for something you weren't aware of, sure politeness, but it's just that politeness, if you say that you weren't aware of it that is an apology on it's own.

The thing here is, these self-righteous people WANT her to say "SHE IS SORRY" and not accepting that she has already said she is unaware of the issues (which to them doesn't equate to an apology, rather an excuse for her "ignorance"). And they think she is not being apologetic at all from her tone of replies.

Yes, she doesn't need to be aware of every single stuff in the world (it's normal, none of us do!) and she could take it as a lesson and learn (like Anxhela did), but instead she's recording tik tok with a pinch of salt and debauchery, and not to mention she's blocking people elsewhere. She's not open to dialogue, so the cancelling sprew is right in this one.

Perhaps she is blocking them as she is tired of explaining herself and them acting aggressively towards her forcing out an apology that only suits these people's expectations?

Anyway, it's obvious we are not getting anywhere here. I would rest my case and happy to agree to disagree.

 

[MiraWarninyi]

I don't know how to multi-quote, sorry the "spamming"

I'm not talking about blm or activism for black people. I'm talking about cultural app. and also again what do you think the black people that think that this is bs? I want you to answer to this question please And why should we agree with a particular group of black people and not the other?

You can't talk about cultural appropriation without mentioning anti-racism movements as they're linked, and opressing someone of expressing their own culture is racism.

 

[rasmuslights]

I don't know how to multi-quote, sorry the "spamming"



You can't talk about cultural appropriation without mentioning anti-racism movements as they're linked, and opressing someone of expressing their own culture is racism.

ok yes I will also rest my case here, because you still haven't my question but yes we are all people and we sometimes disagree, but it's wrong to put "racist" label on people who did nothing wrong. thank you for a polite discussion.

 

[MiraWarninyi]

Perhaps she is blocking them as she is tired of explaining herself and them acting aggressively towards her forcing out an apology that only suits these people's expectations?

She wasn't aware but now she is and made fun of it, that's speak for itself.

 

[Leydan]

I don't know how to multi-quote, sorry the "spamming".

If you press the +quote next to the Like it and reply button, and then the click the insert quotes button to the bottom left of the message box you type in then you can add multiple quotes to a post. I'd show with pictures but I'm from my mobile so it's harder. Hope it helps for the future.

 

[mauve]

I actually like this song. Now I am officially weird. Someone call .

 

[Leydan]

@RainyWoods

 

[Mrm]

I actually like this song. Now I am officially weird. Someone call .

Me too..

Yes, I turned 16 and I want to be an equal participant with others. My song is a message to all of us calling to become less angry and learn to forgive even arch villains without thirst for revenge. Maybe then the disaster that touched upon all people will back off. The song may seem weird. However, it's not even a song, but rather a message.

 

[RainyWoods]

@RainyWoods

 

[nik92]

She blocked a person (is it even a person? cause all these profiles on Twitter just copy paste in a bot-like manner and constantly spam the same text over and over...). We are just sick and tired and extremely exhausted of all their terror, cyber-bullying, spamming, personal attacks, etc. basically their irrelevant war on nothing. They basically just wanted to attack someone and they chose us. Will we apologize? No! Will we change the song? No! Will Kazna change her style? No! Will we answer these people? No! And why not? Because we did nothing wrong!

 

[DenizESC]

It is way too obvious that a majority of people here most clearly aren't an oppressed ethnic minority where they live : ) Yet everyone is so loud to silence people that do want to voice their side of the coin and want to hear none of what those people have to say, yet only the other side is being hateful to you guys? Did you even see how the people on twitter react vs. the reactions of the guys y'all support lmao?

Calling every attempt of people calling out toxic behaviour 'political correctness', 'american', 'snowflake' what have I walked into oh my, is this still the so called inclusive ESC community. Or is that one only inclusive when it fits their own ideals : D

Y'all made me tired but go back and read up the things you talked about and try to find the hypocrisy and/or ignorance in some of the posts. I legit don't want to quote half the forum.

Like the issues with this singer aside, y'all went up and used this moment as a platform of ignorance

 

[nik92]

Ok, to everyone in this thread I just want to say, your white is showing... It is way too obvious that a majority of people here most clearly aren't an oppressed ethnic minority where they live : ) Yet everyone is so loud to silence people that do want to voice their side of the coin and want to hear none of what those people have to say, yet only the other side is being hateful to you guys? Did you even see how the people on twitter react vs. the reactions of the guys y'all support lmao?

Calling every attempt of people calling out toxic behaviour 'political correctness', 'american', 'snowflake' what have I walked into oh my, is this still the so called inclusive ESC community. Or is that one only inclusive when it fits their own ideals : D

Y'all made me tired but go back and read up the things you talked about and try to find the hypocrisy and/or ignorance in some of the posts. I legit don't want to quote half the forum.

Like the issues with this singer aside, y'all went up and used this moment as a platform of ignorance

I am a Greek living and having grown up in Germany, I was only one of max. 5 Greeks at the high school I visited which mostly contained of hundreds and hundreds of Germans, Americans and South Koreans, I attended a university in Barcelona, so don't tell me about minorities...

 

[A-lister]

I'm confused, I didn't follow the story closely but what's up with the whole "Braids-gate"?

"SJW fighters" will find racism in everything these days and this whole "cancel culture" is really just one big cancer... and the idea of "cultural appropriation" is exaggerated to the point of absurdity (mostly driven by WHITE, self-entitled and self-proclaimed "leftist liberal" tools and internet trolls who have little to no actual education on political ideologies, history or racism as a concept, but are just useful idiots and used as pawns by certain political and financial interest groups to spread division, polarization and hatred among groups in society in order to divide-and-control).

Braids aren't even exclusively "African" to begin with, so I'm not sure what all the drama is about? Braids are just as incorporated into Slavic culture and folklore, long before the vast majority of your average Slav even knew anything about Africa... but then again I don't know the details here, can someone be so kind to clarify and quickly summarize what the drama is all about?