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Azerbaijan AZERBAIJAN 2016 - Samra Rahimli - Miracle

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    49 24.4%
  • 10

    31 15.4%
  • 8

    20 10.0%
  • 7

    20 10.0%
  • 6

    21 10.4%
  • 5

    16 8.0%
  • 4

    11 5.5%
  • 3

    3 1.5%
  • 2

    3 1.5%
  • 1

    3 1.5%
  • 0

    24 11.9%

  • Total voters
    201

Romeo

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SWEDES AGAIN? 7 out of their 9 entries have been written by Sweds!

Its a song we have heard 1000 times before. Don't get me wrong its a good song, just a bit obvious and lacks something. It wont flop but I don't see it doing very well
 

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Miracle seems to be professionally done, with a good production. I guess that is what one can expect from a swedish team when it comes to pop-music.
Like many of you, I find it quite pathetic that Az year after year is importing their entries. But the result this year is definitely not bad. For the reasons I've mentioned I will give it a 7, or maybe an 8. But apart from the fact that I find this a solid pop-song, this is not touching other strings in me.... no instant love here... not even a slight infatuation.
Another top 10? Difficult to say this year.
 

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The best entry from Azerbaijan (one of my least favorite countries in ESC) since 2011, I quite like it.
 

deese

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I don't even know what to say. The song is not bad, but is not good either. It is just average.
Anyway, i do not care.
 

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It's ironic how all fans nag here about the entry being composed by Swedes.
You guys are not being any more original than Azerbaijan, by overstating the fact that they opt for Swedish composers once again.
I don't want to generalize but most of you were prejudged to hate it anyway.
I appreciate that Azerbaijan puts much more effort than any other country, they indeed take it very seriously. They have never sent a completely rubbish entry that is doomed to place low. They always guarantee to appeal to most of the viewers.
Maybe indeed they do not have a strong musical industry for producing western style music. What do you want, them standing and declare "Yes, our composers suck so we import from Sweden". Will you be happy then? I feel the lack of this even in my country, Turkey. We have fewwwww singers who sing in English, and even those blend Western music with Eastern elements. We will never in the near future produce a song like Heroes or Euphoria, and that's what sells in the contest.
 

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This is the song Molly Sanden should have entered MF with :lol: Not surprising though since Azerbaijan always ends up with the Swedish song that's better then the majority of MF itself.

The song is definitely there but it will depend on the live show in Stockholm. The last two years the show has been a death sentence so it will be interesting to see if the streak continues or they can finally snap it.
 

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I don't even know what to say about this song. I'm completely indifferent. Samra is really pretty though. xheart
 

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It's ironic how all fans nag here about the entry being composed by Swedes.
You guys are not being any more original than Azerbaijan, by overstating the fact that they opt for Swedish composers once again.
I don't want to generalize but most of you were prejudged to hate it anyway.
I appreciate that Azerbaijan puts much more effort than any other country, they indeed take it very seriously. They have never sent a completely rubbish entry that is doomed to place low. They always guarantee to appeal to most of the viewers.
Maybe indeed they do not have a strong musical industry for producing western style music. What do you want, them standing and declare "Yes, our composers suck so we import from Sweden". Will you be happy then? I feel the lack of this even in my country, Turkey. We have fewwwww singers who sing in English, and even those blend Western music with Eastern elements. We will never in the near future produce a song like Heroes or Euphoria, and that's what sells in the contest.

If you want my opinion (maybe you don't, but there you go :D), it just feels like the Azeri broadcaster is lacking confidence towards local composers to me. We've only had one "true" Azeri-made entry so far and, even though I wouldn't praise it (not my type), we don't know what would have followed the year after, hadn't they decided to buy their songs abroad. IMO they should give it another try at least. Azerbaijan most probably does not produce Western-sounding music, that's a fact and that ok! :) Not a long time ago, oriental-sounding songs were quite popular in Eurovision, there is an audience for that kind of music and please don't assume it would be bound for failure. As long as it's well crafted and genuine, I don't see what could go wrong tbh.

Azerbaijan has sent quality pop songs with a rather wide appeal so far, that's for sure, but there's nothing Azeri in them (minus the singers), even their language hasn't been showcased once. They aren't Sweden and should realize that they have something else to offer.

Of course, if I find "Miracle" good, it won't prevent me from liking it and praising it. But I think it's too bad to rely solely on a borrowed identity while there are singers and composers out there who would do just as fine. And there's no honor in buying a song meant to please the crowd, any country could do that (and some others actually do).
 

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^ ESC is not a contest where you show your local culture anymore tho, otherwise everyone would sing in their native language.
 

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^ ESC is not a contest where you show your local culture anymore tho, otherwise everyone would sing in their native language.

But if every country engage some composers from Sweden or UK to write a proper song for their country, where is the fun after all?

There should be a rule that every country have to chose songs that are made by domestic composers. Moreover, composers deserve more appreciation, they are the creative minds.
 

tsegaye

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Why is it just Azerbaijan that has to show their roots in their entries? I've never heard something about local songwriters and especially local sounding songs in Latvia, France, Slovenia for example.
 

Chorizo

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Azerbaijan has a better Swedish song than Sweden.
I give it 10 points.
 

Polux

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Why is it just Azerbaijan that has to show their roots in their entries? I've never heard something about local songwriters and especially local sounding songs in Latvia, France, Slovenia for example.

THIS
 

kamc

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Wow, this is very good actually....wasn't expecting it. The chorus has a nice 80s pop vibe to it.
 

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^ ESC is not a contest where you show your local culture anymore tho, otherwise everyone would sing in their native language.

It's not even about showing your culture, it's about showing what you do best, what you have to offer. And to those questions marks, it seems Azerbaijan is only good for finding pretty singers, as they never sent songs they created themselves but in 2008. And singing in your own language when you (the singer) can't speak English even to save your life may be considered logical, not necessarily an attempt to highlight the singularity of your culture/country :D But putting the language aside, they can afford trying to send a "homemade" song imo. What about picking a song composed by Azeri composers and revamp it somewhere else if need be? It doesn't sound that infeasible. :)

Why is it just Azerbaijan that has to show their roots in their entries? I've never heard something about local songwriters and especially local sounding songs in Latvia, France, Slovenia for example.

Personally, I was reacting to EscTurkey's post, nothing more. Had it been another country, I would have had the same opinion. Yes, other countries do resort to foreign composers, but not as much as Azerbaijan, that does this every year since 2009. That's ironic how much they advertised their country when they hosted ("Azerbaijan, land of..."), yet it doesn't show through their music.

By the way, when I said "local-sounding songs", I didn't mean "traditional music" necessarily, an entry that's in line with your current music scene (with local composers) is definitely more genuine than buying a song abroad imo.

At the end of the day, that's not of a big deal for me. I mean it's their loss, but I find it rather sad.
 

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Why is it just Azerbaijan that has to show their roots in their entries? I've never heard something about local songwriters and especially local sounding songs in Latvia, France, Slovenia for example.

Well apart from the fact that France is a bad example for what you obviously want to say, maybe because Azerbaijan is one of the countries that has never since it entered the contest showed something genuinely azeri. (musically speaking), whereas all (? correct me if I'm wrong) other countries have done this at least once in their history of ESC. Of course, Azerbaijan is a relatively new member of the ESC family, but I guess that could be a reason.
 

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The original premise of "showing your roots" at ESC hasn't been true in a LONG time, televoting killed that. In a ideal ESC every country would send a song that looks like their local musical scene but the results will end up looking even more predictable and unimaginable then they are now and the playing field would be grossly unequal. I don't know why some people are so stubborn that they can't see, or refuse to admit, why countries like Azerbaijan take the path they have taken. I personally don't like it but I fully understand and get it and the constant whining about it is getting exhausting.
 

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Whoa, didn't expect this but I love it! :eek:

The success will depend on her delivery of the song live, I've watched some of her live performances - there were some good ones but also quite a few performances where my ears were bleeding :?
 

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If you want my opinion (maybe you don't, but there you go :D), it just feels like the Azeri broadcaster is lacking confidence towards local composers to me. We've only had one "true" Azeri-made entry so far and, even though I wouldn't praise it (not my type), we don't know what would have followed the year after, hadn't they decided to buy their songs abroad. IMO they should give it another try at least. Azerbaijan most probably does not produce Western-sounding music, that's a fact and that ok! :) Not a long time ago, oriental-sounding songs were quite popular in Eurovision, there is an audience for that kind of music and please don't assume it would be bound for failure. As long as it's well crafted and genuine, I don't see what could go wrong tbh.

Azerbaijan has sent quality pop songs with a rather wide appeal so far, that's for sure, but there's nothing Azeri in them (minus the singers), even their language hasn't been showcased once. They aren't Sweden and should realize that they have something else to offer.

Of course, if I find "Miracle" good, it won't prevent me from liking it and praising it. But I think it's too bad to rely solely on a borrowed identity while there are singers and composers out there who would do just as fine. And there's no honor in buying a song meant to please the crowd, any country could do that (and some others actually do).

They do lack confidence, but they have some reason, I have explained why.
I am sure there were many options among 400 entries that they were to select from, but apparently this one came to be the best one. People, please stop pretending as if this entry came from up above. The Azeri team apparently does a lot of hard work while choosing the song and apparently the best one is often from Sweden. I think the songs composed by Azeris were not good enough to send to the contest, as this kind of music is not often produced or heard by people in Azerbaijan.

Nothing Azeri in them? Don't be so cruel, please. :D Well, 2009, 2012, 2014 all had ethnic elements in them, I think 3 ethnic-influenced entries in 6 years is well enough to say they show more traditional elements than 80% of the countries competing.
I know I might sound too pro-Azeri but I am not biased, I swear :D I also agree with you that the songs could have at least sommme verses in Azerbaijani language, I criticize them for this.

Azerbaijan won't be sending songs with local composers only to shut ESC fans up, they don't want to take a risk.
There's a pissing contest going on between Armenia and Azerbaijan. Azerbaijan wants to guarantee placing over Armenia, they prefer having success with Swedish composers rather than placing low with an ethnic entry and showing their culture. :)
 
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