escYOUnited
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Austria AUSTRIA 2022 - LUM!X & Pia Maria - Halo
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aef
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Why? I thought the initial concept with a funky dance song at least had some potential. Why would I let someone like Bueno sing a song where he can't dance...
Ezio
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I think the Eurovision 2021 selection process was the lowest point for Austria. They nominated Vincent Bueno out of laziness and were surprised he couldn't pull off writing a decent song. Amen was given to him, which was a good song after all and also decently staged. But not the right song for this day and age. In the sea of female bops, a funky male bop with a cool dance routine would have had a USP. Kinda a wasted opportunity for sure.
with one thing i have to disagree again: i don't think they nominated him out of laziness. i think it was fair (and again i'm NOT a fan of his art). he really tried to participate several times and alive was his last try. after the contest being cancelled i think it was a nice gesture to let him participate again. from a competitive standpoint yes maybe a different choice would have been better
Lance Esgard
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My view is in-between Datura and Ezio. Having had Alive (plus a different song that almost made it through a different year) I don't think it was unreasonable to think that Vincent Bueno would be able to get something good given all those months he had available. On that part I agree with Datura, but I think that as Ezio noticed in his June 2020 post, it was known that Vincent Bueno had an ill cousin battling cancer. That's easily the sort of thing that can affect an artist's direction and it clearly affected what Vincent was releasing.
If Vincent's direction as an artist had changed due to a major event in his life, it may be that no amount of songwriting skills on his part would have produced a song that would have been a better fit for Eurovision 2021. It may simply be that he was in too different a space emotionally for that. (The Eberhard Foucher interview indicated that when Vincent agreed to sing Amen that he said he would 'make it his own,' which suggests his put his own spin onto how he interpreted the song and how he sung it and/or other elements.)
I think the issue with having such a hands-off approach, assuming that they had plenty of time and things would be good is that when that ends up not being the case, you find out too late to not be even more constrained in your available options.
If Vincent's direction as an artist had changed due to a major event in his life, it may be that no amount of songwriting skills on his part would have produced a song that would have been a better fit for Eurovision 2021. It may simply be that he was in too different a space emotionally for that. (The Eberhard Foucher interview indicated that when Vincent agreed to sing Amen that he said he would 'make it his own,' which suggests his put his own spin onto how he interpreted the song and how he sung it and/or other elements.)
I think the issue with having such a hands-off approach, assuming that they had plenty of time and things would be good is that when that ends up not being the case, you find out too late to not be even more constrained in your available options.
Lance Esgard
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Maybe somehting along the lines of 'dream picks/acts?'
marty
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Lets dont talk too much about the past. It seems like we would get a rather good song from Austria this year.
Hm no thats not what i mean. I mean artists who write their stuff themselves and are not "just" singers of a Song manufactured by the creative Team of a TV broadcasting station
Ezio
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They nominated him and at the same time expected from him to deliver a self-written song for Eurovision. He delivered something, which wasn't deemed good enough. Who would have thought?!with one thing i have to disagree again: i don't think they nominated him out of laziness. i think it was fair (and again i'm NOT a fan of his art). he really tried to participate several times and alive was his last try. after the contest being cancelled i think it was a nice gesture to let him participate again. from a competitive standpoint yes maybe a different choice would have been better
Lance Esgard
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Oh, so singer-songwriters?
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I also prefer singer-songwriters as a general rule. On the other hand - Vincent Bueno is also a singer songwriter… being one obviously doesn‘t guarantee quality.
marty
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That would not be fair. I mean what should songwriters who cant sing do? We would not get a lot of great songs. Originally ESC was a contest for songwriters. Making a singer/songwriter contest out of it would be a huge change.
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Did I say anything about having only singer-songwriters?
Edit: Oh, I get it! „as a general rule“ was referring to my personal taste, not as a rule to the contest. I should have said: generally/most of the time I prefer singer-singwriters to be more clear.
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Few Days left.....Maybe this week we can expect this
Flamenkax
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Electro duo Anger posted this on their Instagram before deleting it...
Didn't expect that kind of sound after Vincent Bueno, ngl i'm pretty hyped
Didn't expect that kind of sound after Vincent Bueno, ngl i'm pretty hyped
marty
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As far as I know the austrian act is not decided on yet. But it is quite likely they will make it. However, I think they will take the train to turin.Electro duo Anger posted this on their Instagram before deleting it...
Didn't expect that kind of sound after Vincent Bueno, ngl i'm pretty hyped