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To the FSC Community,

The FSC Mod team has over time considered adding a new, innovative - and exciting - factor and feature to the FSC Song Voting Process: an International jury.

A bit simlarly to International juries that have been included in many countries’ ESC National Finals, to make voting less predictable and to give a possible insight into how the rest of Europe will vote in the end, an International jury will from the May 2017 edition onwards be directly involved in the FSC voting process for each FSC jury, influencing each FSC-jury’s Final votes; to make everything more exciting, much less predictable and to give an indication of how the rest of the FSC-countries will vote, finding their preferred songs. This measure will also, we believe, combat ‘neighbour’-voting / ‘friendly’ voting in the FSC, which like in the ESC has become an increasing problem, and make for a fairer result in the end.


In the FSC this is how we plan to do this:


- An International jury consisting of 10 members from different participating FSC-countries will listen to all songs taking part in an edition and the jury will give their points, 12 down to 1 point in normal ESC/FSC-fashion.

- These International jury points will count 50% of every FSC jury’s vote; the jury’s own National points will count for the other 50%. The Combined vote will give the jury’s Final vote/points for a FSC-edition.

- In the case of two songs ending on a same total of points (f.ex. 10 (International) +4 (National) points vs 4 (International) +10 (National) points) the National jury’s points/position will be given preference.

- The members of the International jury will be randomly drawn from all FSC-juries.

- The members of the International jury will be informed that they are part of this jury no later than the beginning of the Evaluation Period that month.

- The members of the International jury will only vote in the International jury that month, so not in their National jury also. They can only vote once. This will be to the disadvantage of 1-member juries but they will these few months they are voting in the International jury be compensated by their vote counting double in the International jury.

- The International jury’s votes (unknown to all National juries) will be ready on the first day after the end of the Evaluation Period that month. Thereby in time for all National jury votes.

- The FSC Mod Vote Collector will then add the International jury’s votes to the received/submitted National jury votes and the Combined vote for each FSC-country (unknown to the National jury, thereby adding to the final excitement) will be readied for the FSC Results Show.

- It is obligatory to sit in the International jury when chosen to do so.

- It is not possible for a member to sit in the International jury more than 5 times in a calendar year. For a 1-member jury the maximum is 3 times in a calendar year.

- Voting in the International jury is, of course, confidential and all members must honour that confidentiality until the Final results have been presented at the end of the month.

- When the Final results have been presented, in the Results Show, the detailed International jury votes, with individual member votes in that jury, will be announced.


We know that some of you may find this change surprising, and some will probably be opposed to this big departure from FSC voting tradition, since from May 2017 onwards with the introduction of this International jury you will thereby no longer alone decide on your FSC jury’s final votes/points in a FSC-edition. We have considered the implications and consequences over a period of time, however, and we believe that this will give advantages and increased fairness and will add a new, innovative dimension and excitement to the FSC, a breath of fresh air, which will attract new members and be to everyone’s enjoyment, and to the benefit of the whole FSC Community.

The FSC Rules will be updated accordingly.


On behalf of the FSC Mod team,


Regards,

Malagant
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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

Sorry but I'm opposing, Swedish votes should be Swedish votes, Spanish should come from Spanish jury, Taiwanese from Taiwanese and so forward...

If suddenly some random group will have 50% say of the votes of each nation, this group's vote will choose the outcome in every edition and there is no point even to vote anymore. Please tell me if I misunderstood?, but atleast that's how I read it. If it was an additional jury group, not having 50% say, but have say as one jury group, this could be arguably ok, but each country vote will include the votes also from this group? The power ratio between national juries and one group will be ridiculous as their vote is duplicated over and over again wheres national juries have just one set of vote each... also we won't know anymore what countries voted since this group's vote will be combined in there?... I don't get it... xshrug

I appreciate if you want to make things more exciting, new ideas can be fun and of course appreciate the job you put in this, but such radical move should be discussed with the members because it shakes up the whole idea. I for one don't like it a single bit and I'm sure lots of members won't like it either.

Well count me out, if it gets introduced like this, Sweden stays out from May.
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

I, for one love this new change. This is a GREAT idea and I really love the initiative behind this. Seriously inspiring. What's not to love about this? xgoddess
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

I, for one love this new change. This is a GREAT idea and I really love the initiative behind this. Seriously inspiring. What's not to love about this? xgoddess

Maybe the fact that a random group will have the most say and the whole idea of having national juries diminishes? Also the fact that it's a decision taken before actually considering with members? xshrug

Opinions might differ, but I still think such a drastic change that will turn the whole contest upside-down literary should be discussed with members first though, maybe add a voting poll aswell.
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

I must say I agree with A-lister on this one. Basically, same person will vote in international and national jury. But those lucky 10 that are going to be selected will prevail with 50% impact on the votes. :confused: I think such serious change should at least be discussed with players. :?
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]


Omg I'm sooo dumb....

Thank you [MENTION=4414]94ayd[/MENTION] for making me see the obvious now :lol:

[MENTION=4434]Malagant[/MENTION]

That was really elaborated, I applaud you for it, you really had me going there for a while xrofl3
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

You shouldn't always take things so seriously. :p

I know but I'm the worst person when it comes to this particular date... I'm the easiest target to fool for sure... it's not fun :oops::lol:
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

Seriously, this has been the best prank I've seen all day. Not gonna lie, I was fooled at first, too. xDD
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

Seriously, this has been the best prank I've seen all day. Not gonna lie, I was fooled at first, too. xDD

I literary feel sooo dumb :lol: But I will let my panic reaction stay because it'll be fun to have a laugh at afterwards :lol:

This happens to me every year, it's funny because I can be normally suspicious of what I read and peoples' intentions, but come April 1st and I'm always first in line to be fooled... :lol:

[MENTION=4434]Malagant[/MENTION] You really deserve a spanking for this!!!! :lol:
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

OMG! :oops:
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

I literary feel sooo dumb :lol: But I will let my panic reaction stay because it'll be fun to have a laugh at afterwards :lol:

This happens to me every year, it's funny because I can be normally suspicious of what I read and peoples' intentions, but come April 1st and I'm always first in line to be fooled... :lol:

[MENTION=4434]Malagant[/MENTION] You really deserve a spanking for this!!!! :lol:

At least we are companions in being dumb :mrgreen: xrollinglol
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

Leave it to [MENTION=4544]A-lister[/MENTION] to write a long response in disagreement. :mrgreen::lol:xlove
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

At least Malagant's effort was worth it!
I would probably be fooled myself if I had arrived earlier :lol:
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

I, for one love this new change. This is a GREAT idea and I really love the initiative behind this. Seriously inspiring. What's not to love about this? xgoddess
Join the :au: jury!
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

OMG!! This is such a devilish prank!!! I knew I should have read the responses first....dammm...I read through the entire rules for ten minutes....got so confused...and literally had a brain spasm trying to figure out this entire new strategy.....oh god I do feel so dumb....I feel your pain [MENTION=4544]A-lister[/MENTION] I was even in agreement with you when I read your first response...and was willing to stand by you in NOT participating anymore!! hahahahaha :lol:

[MENTION=4434]Malagant[/MENTION] deserves an award for this - maybe the BIGGEST MOTHER-EFFING PRANKSTER OF ALL-TIME AWARD??? xbow xrofl3
You can give Ashton Kutcher a run for his money if you keep this up!! :lol:
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

[MENTION=4434]Malagant[/MENTION]

That was really elaborated, I applaud you for it, you really had me going there for a while xrofl3

[MENTION=4434]Malagant[/MENTION] You really deserve a spanking for this!!!! :lol:

Thank you, [MENTION=4544]A-lister[/MENTION] ! :D;):lol:

I will let [MENTION=13133]aardvark[/MENTION] spank me a little okies ;) (he is the Chief Spanker in the FSC Mod team; usually he only spanks those who don’t send an entry for a FSC-edition, but he might make an exception for me :lol:)
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

OMG!! This is such a devilish prank!!! I knew I should have read the responses first....dammm...I read through the entire rules for ten minutes....got so confused...and literally had a brain spasm trying to figure out this entire new strategy.....oh god I do feel so dumb....I feel your pain [MENTION=4544]A-lister[/MENTION] I was even in agreement with you when I read your first response...and was willing to stand by you in NOT participating anymore!! hahahahaha :lol:

[MENTION=4434]Malagant[/MENTION] deserves an award for this - maybe the BIGGEST MOTHER-EFFING PRANKSTER OF ALL-TIME AWARD??? xbow xrofl3
You can give Ashton Kutcher a run for his money if you keep this up!! :lol:

[MENTION=7583]BlueForever[/MENTION] Thank you, glad you enjoyed it! :D;):lol:
 

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Re: FSC Rules Change: International jury and Voting [All Read]

Everyone’s probably figured it out by now, but just for the record:

YES, this was an April Fools joke - glad you enjoyed it! :D;):lol:xcheer
 
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