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MyHeartIsYours

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

Personally I didnt no :lol:

But many stupid British people yes they always give Greece high points :x
Also, there are a lot of Greeks here I think, I certainly know someone who was voting for Greece only coz he's Greek :evil:

The voting was more corrupt this year, I thought last year we had sorted it out but many Western songs were left behind :(
 

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MyHeartIsYours said:
Personally I didnt no :lol:
By writing "you" I meant the UK. But I know you got my point. ;) :)

MyHeartIsYours said:
I certainly know someone who was voting for Greece only coz he's Greek :evil:
Unfortunately this happens with every country. Germany always gives Turkey points just because there are many turks living there. ;)
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

I know it happens with everyone, I am not saying just the Greeks do it.

It makes me sad though, I just wish people could vote for the songs - not for the countries :cry: :cry: :cry:
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

good result for us although i expected top 5....i mean the whole stadium went wild with our song....
p.s how come that sweden gave us 0 points???
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

^

Yeah, I thought you were gonna win after that :eek:
 

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messi11 said:
good result for us although i expected top 5....i mean the whole stadium went wild with our song....
p.s how come that sweden gave us 0 points???

Coz you didnt deserve any - it was just noise :evil:
 

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MyHeartIsYours said:
Personally I didnt no :lol:

But many stupid British people yes they always give Greece high points :x
Also, there are a lot of Greeks here I think, I certainly know someone who was voting for Greece only coz he's Greek :evil:

The voting was more corrupt this year, I thought last year we had sorted it out but many Western songs were left behind :(

How on earth was the voting 'more corrupt???'. What a load of tosh.

GERMANY won (no neighbour votes), TURKEY second, ROMANIA third. These are not countries with a lot of biased neighbours giving them easy points. They are just countries who sent in three really good songs.

Just because a few ex pats from other countries then vote for their own old country hardly makes it 'corrupt'. In the end, people vote for what they know. Neighbouring countries will have artists known to them, probably in a style they know and like. It's a natural thing. A big star in Russia is likely to be known in Ukraine, Belarus, etc and receive votes because of it.

The jury system now has 50% and the effect of neighbour voting has now been blunted, allowing a great song from Germany to win the contest.

There's so much 'bad loser' attitude on here, where people rate their own countries songs higher that they really deserve, then whinge that voters are corrupt or cheating. Take a step back and have a real listen to the songs this year. There were lots of very good songs, and some will therefore have to finish lower than others. Germany and Turkey were totally deserving of 1st and 2nd because of the quality of performance and song.

Get over it, people!!!
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

A few??? More like most!!

I think the only solution is 100% jury now :( Nothing else can be done, people cant vote correctly so they shouldnt be able to vote.
 

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MyHeartIsYours said:
I think the only solution is 100% jury now :( Nothing else can be done, people cant vote correctly so they shouldnt be able to vote.

This sounds so stupid that I'm not even gonna try to think of a proper answer to that. Unless you weren't serious.
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

No 100 % juries please. I think they alone SUCK!!!
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

I am serious - it worked well for like 40 years!!!
People are unable to vote for anyone but their favourite countries so I think it would be a good solution. Musical experts have a better idea about what should win than televoters.
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

^

But juries don't reflect people likes!!!

Come on, Germany, that country that was never liked even from their neighbours has just won!!!!
So anyone can win this :D
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

Well I guess 50/50 is preferable to 100% televote. That was just awful! Thank god it's gone! :lol:
 

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MyHeartIsYours said:
I am serious - it worked well for like 40 years!!!
People are unable to vote for anyone but their favourite countries so I think it would be a good solution. Musical experts have a better idea about what should win than televoters.

Eurovision is show for all people, not for few people!
As for the Greek song, in my opinion this is the weakest and worst song of the year without any musical quality!
I hope that the Greek finally next year will send a good pop song and not the folk **it like this year entry is!!!
And I can't believe that UK give 12 points for this!!!
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

Well I can which is why I want only juries :D
Coz of all the Greeks voting for their country :evil:
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

There are so many reasons why a jury is more biased and less fair that televoting. Just for starters, how can you determine who is a "musical expert" and on what scale should they judge the songs? When the winner is selected by televoting it is definitely the most popular song (I'm not saying "the best", there's a difference), even if some people don't agree with it, and few point exchanges here and there have no effect on the actual winner (maybe around some 15th or so placings though).
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

Anyway, I think it's not as much the change of the voting system but western countries used to have average and bad songs during the televoting years and the last two years they had better song than the East, I think ;)

You'll see how televoting and jury votes are not so different this year either ;)
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

Well televoting is not fair coz nobody votes for the United Kingdom :evil:

And if they are not that different, then why is everyone scared of juries? :D :lol:
 

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Re: ?????? - Greece 2010 - Giorgos Alkaios & Friends - Opa

MyHeartIsYours said:
Well televoting is not fair coz nobody votes for the United Kingdom :evil:
So that's what's all about! :lol: UK doesn't get any points! :lol:

But really do you think if this year was 100% jury votes, Josh would get any?
 

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MyHeartIsYours said:
Well televoting is not fair coz nobody votes for the United Kingdom :evil:

And if they are not that different, then why is everyone scared of juries? :D :lol:

I think this year, neither Britons would vote for Josh, song was patetic!!! :twisted:
And I think that there is no large difference in votes between the jury and the audience! Look on the ex SSSR country!!!!
 
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