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You can’t say things like this in this forum. Clearly Isreal’s huge televote points this year will NOT be politicalFor obvious reasons will get some good televote songs and a 12 from RoW.
The melody sounds almost identical to my ears though.Because Händel used a very simple and common melody for his variations.
exactly. In Baroque music, that was a common thing: create a very simple melody so that many composers can do variations on it. A Passacaglia is basically a form of variations.The melody sounds almost identical to my ears though.
Interesting, I don’t recall ever hearing a true passacaglia at Eurovision before but it sort of reminds me of how Nemo borrowed that opera riff from The Magic Flute last year. I really like the piano elements in this song but using an almost identical riff to me just feels a bit off, even if borrowing from classical music is common practice in songwriting.exactly. In Baroque music, that was a common thing: create a very simple melody so that many composers can do variations on it. A Passacaglia is basically a form of variations.
The most famous example for this are the countless variations on "La Folia", a piece that is just made up of a few notes and (as the Passacaglia) is just one line long.
So it's natural to recognize this simple melody whenever it is taken for a variation. And since the first harmonies are also common ones, once you split them into notes - voilà! Similarity is inevitable, cuz there are not 35 ways you can split chords.
Compare this one (in the British NF 2019)Interesting, I don’t recall ever hearing a true passacaglia at Eurovision before but it sort of reminds me of how Nemo borrowed that opera riff from The Magic Flute last year. I really like the piano elements in this song but using an almost identical riff to me just feels a bit off, even if borrowing from classical music is common practice in songwriting.
I meant at Eurovision itself but oh absolutely, that one was a shameless rip-off and Canon has been done to death. As long as she’s able to get away with it, I guess it doesn’t really matter but it still feels like a lazy choice. That said, I do still like it.Compare this one (in the British NF 2019)
(0:47)
with this baroque all time evergreen
(1:58)
This would be deemed dead on arrival if Georgia send this.
NopeThis would be deemed dead on arrival if Georgia send this.
2010 was a complete different Eurovision era though.Georgia hadn't sent anything that impressive since 2010 at least, and "Shine" (also a great power ballad) reached Top 10 - despite coming from Georgia.