United Kingdom UNITED KINGDOM 2025 - Remember Monday - What The Hell Just Happened?

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[Romeo]

Do you genuinely think the BBC aims to ‘humiliate the country’?

Jeez. It’s over the top comments like that which make me back the BBC more as it just proves that no matter what they do, people will moan.

I do think they try with the best intentions ever year, but for a number of reasons it doesn’t work.

I honestly can’t see the situation being any different with ITV etc in charge. You know ITV would just send a X-Factor winner’s style song for starters, so hardly any better…

In 2012 the BBC said Tina Cousins was too old for Eurovision and went Engelbert. They sent electro velvet. They chose mae ahead of Rina, they picked Olly… need I say more? The only times they actually tried was 2022, 2014, 2017 since Jessica Garlic the bbc haven’t tried apart from those three. Oh and blue.

The bbc don’t have the mental ability to pick a song that will win. ITV sending an xfactor winning song would be better than a the BBC alternative which was ‘all together now’ winner who ended last. I’d rather give itv a chance than sick with the failing bbc pretending to try

 

[Ted Talks]

In 2012 the BBC said Tina Cousins was too old for Eurovision and went Engelbert. They sent electro velvet. They chose mae ahead of Rina, they picked Olly… need I say more? The only times they actually tried was 2022, 2014, 2017 since Jessica Garlic the bbc haven’t tried apart from those three. Oh and blue.

The bbc don’t have the mental ability to pick a song that will win. ITV sending an xfactor winning song would be better than a the BBC alternative which was ‘all together now’ winner who ended last. I’d rather give itv a chance than sick with the failing bbc pretending to try

Didn’t Rina miss the deadline to say yes to the BBC so they had to look elsewhere? That’s why Mae was chosen - she wasn’t chosen over Rina.

Rina missed the deadline - and then continued to hype herself up as the potential entrant when she knew full well she wasn’t it. Not a clever move on her or her management team’s part.

But of course that’s a bash the BBC thing - not a Rina issue.

I’m not going to argue Englebert or Electro Velvet were good (as they weren’t) but the BBC have tried so many different methods in recent years to crack the code that that should be applauded to me.

We’ve had ‘legacy acts’, BBC Introducing stars, fully internal selections, a national final, teaming up with record labels etc.

They’ve tried different things. Yes they’ve not all worked but far better than ITV lumbering us with the Britains Got Talent winner ever year with a song from the early 00s at best.

ITV would only be in it for the money. I do think the BBC cares about Eurovision. Does it get things wrong? Of course, but no country’s broadcaster is perfect for picking a Eurovision song…

 

[Rocket man]

Didn’t Rina miss the deadline to say yes to the BBC so they had to look elsewhere? That’s why Mae was chosen - she wasn’t chosen over Rina.

Rina missed the deadline - and then continued to hype herself up as the potential entrant when she knew full well she wasn’t it. Not a clever move on her or her management team’s part.

But of course that’s a bash the BBC thing - not a Rina issue.

I’m not going to argue Englebert or Electro Velvet were good (as they weren’t) but the BBC have tried so many different methods in recent years to crack the code that that should be applauded to me.

We’ve had ‘legacy acts’, BBC Introducing stars, fully internal selections, a national final, teaming up with record labels etc.

They’ve tried different things. Yes they’ve not all worked but far better than ITV lumbering us with the Britains Got Talent winner ever year with a song from the early 00s at best.

ITV would only be in it for the money. I do think the BBC cares about Eurovision. Does it get things wrong? Of course, but no country’s broadcaster is perfect for picking a Eurovision song…

It is true that the BBC have been trying out different ideas for how to pick our entry. What I don't understand is, the UK came 2nd in 2022, and since then the BBC have failed to agree to sending an entry that can sing just as well or even close enough. I would add stage presence and that guitar solo at the end definitely added more points for the UK.

 

[HarryUK]

Is anyone listening to the Radio 2 breakfast show and can confirm who the “Eurovision guest” is? I’d listen but been in meetings since 7:30 lol

 

[han-g]

Streets (people on other forums) are suggesting its this group.

They're a country pop group

Well at least they can sing live.

 

[crals]

What makes me think that the BBC doesn't try very hard is that every time they have a selection method that is even somewhat successful they undermine it or ditch it the following year.

A song by the king of musicals did top 5? Follow up with a song by an 80s hasbeen.
A famous boy band with a modern song did top 5 in the televoting? Follow it up with an 80 year old.
A BBC Introducing act was a fan favorite and did decently? Immediately ditch that method the following year.
An anthemic song with a strong performance almost won? Follow it up with an anemic song by a rather weak performer.

 

[Mainshow]

The Sun also reports that the girl band/ Trio Remember Monday is going to represent the UK.

"The song is a stark change from Olly Alexander last year but the girls are sure to get the nation behind them."

The British country pop trio is made up of Lauren Byrne, Holly-Anne Hull and Charlotte Steele.

Eurovision 2025 UK entry REVEALED as girlband sign up to represent Great Britain

THE UK has chosen a girl band to represent them at the Eurovision Song Contest. The Sun can reveal the group Remember Monday will be flying the flag for Brits come May. Moving away from the popular…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[Ted Talks]

What makes me think that the BBC doesn't try very hard is that every time they have a selection method that is even somewhat successful they undermine it or ditch it the following year.

A song by the king of musicals did top 5? Follow up with a song by an 80s hasbeen.
A famous boy band with a modern song did top 5 in the televoting? Follow it up with an 80 year old.
A BBC Introducing act was a fan favorite and did decently? Immediately ditch that method the following year.
An anthemic song with a strong performance almost won? Follow it up with an anemic song by a rather weak performer.

I’ve always viewed that lurching from one method to the other as the BBC trying to find what works and not realising that sticking with something longer term might work out.

I think it’s also a reaction to fan demands in part. There were cries from the fandom for a You Decide programme after Electro Velvet, so they did it.

A year earlier despite the praise for Molly, they moved away from BBC Introducing because 17th wasn’t a success. Sadly from that came Electro Velvet.

Sticking with BBC Introducing would have worked in time in my opinion.

I think the change is also borne out of the desperation of trying to find a winning formula. There’s a setback, they change. It’s a little too reactionary for my liking, but it’s something.

 

[HarryUK]

I think it’s all but certain that they are and tbh I am not overly impressed with their music. At least I’m disappointed before the contest for a change rather than just with the result right???

 

[Leydan]

We wonder why credible established artists are reluctant to take part or entrants like Mae & Olly saying they needed therapy after, then we get the singer announced from a source (unconfirmed) and 90% of the comments below it is people saying it's a disaster, we're coming last etc. All without hearing a song. We're our own worst enemy, truly.

 

[Rocket man]

The Sun also reports that the girl band/ Trio Remember Monday is going to represent the UK.

Eurovision 2025 UK entry REVEALED as girlband sign up to represent Great Britain

THE UK has chosen a girl band to represent them at the Eurovision Song Contest. The Sun can reveal the group Remember Monday will be flying the flag for Brits come May. Moving away from the popular…

www.thesun.co.uk

Ugh I f****** hate the Sun but it's looking like we have the UK entry for 2025.

I did listen to this band's discography a few days ago based on the rumours it was them, and it was very bland music for my taste. But I'm gonna give them a chance and let's see.

 

[Leydan]

Also, might add that this goes to show that no one should pay attention to any eurofan on twitter who claims to have insider knowledge.

 

[Ted Talks]

We wonder why credible established artists are reluctant to take part or entrants like Mae & Olly saying they needed therapy after, then we get the singer announced from a source (unconfirmed) and 90% of the comments below it is people saying it's a disaster, we're coming last etc. All without hearing a song. We're our own worst enemy, truly.

This times a thousand. UK fans can be truly horrid at times.

Yes Remember Monday could be a disaster come May but I will support them as much as I can if they’re confirmed (which seems likely now).

As you say negativity just because doesn’t help the UK. As I’ve said before on this thread, the response and reaction to Sam was hardly amazing at the time. The end result was.

I’m not saying that’ll happen again come May but writing them off now seems premature - even by UK Eurovision fan standards.

 

[Leydan]

This times a thousand. UK fans can be truly horrid at times.

Yes Remember Monday could be a disaster come May but I will support them as much as I can if they’re confirmed (which seems likely now).

As you say negativity just because doesn’t help the UK. As I’ve said before on this thread, the response and reaction to Sam was hardly amazing at the time. The end result was.

I’m not saying that’ll happen again come May but writing them off now seems premature - even by UK Eurovision fan standards.

It's one thing to not feel very enthusiastic, I'm not myself - I don't like any of the songs from them i've heard. The only encouraging tihng for me is that they're great singers. However, so many people have already decided it's a complete disaster and we're coming last. It's just a bit boring tbh. I don't mean here, but especially on twitter, the eurofans are doing their usual toxic stuff.

 

[Mainshow]

Social Media is a curse most of the time.
Eurofans are the worst at times. Look at all the official Eurovision.tv posts on all platforms. They write "better to withdraw", "NQ" and even worse stuff. Same applies to the general public every time Eurovision pops up... we better feed the homeless, invest in schools, no one can sing, it's a freakshow etc... but honestly, it's the same everywhere. Look at the comments after the Grammy's, for example.
It's people in general. We aren't a nice species.

On forums like this one, I like to freely speak my mind about snippets, information on acts etc but I refrain from posting mean comments on eurovision.tv - since the artists could see it as well.... and honestly, often Eurofans got it totally wrong and fan favourite won't even qualify or bomb whilst songs like Portugal 2021, Estonia 2023, Italy 2011 etc shine "unexpectedly".

I think that Mae and Olly are a bit "too harsh" om their experience. Of course, I wasn't there and I can't even sense the pressure and routines and procedures they had to endure but usually, you hear such comments from countries flopping and both performances were vocally weak or simply distasteful accompanied by mediocre/less competitive songs...

I'll wait for the British entry to be released but I'm not enthusiastic at all. I really dislike these kind of harmonies in girl groups.

 

[Rocket man]

It's why I avoid reaction videos and social media if people are talking about Eurovision. Imo this forum, it's a lot more civilised and mature here. I'm more chilled and I don't have to be confronted with xenophobia or homophobia, unlike elsewhere when talking about Eurovision.

 

[Mrm]

Is that really country?

Doesn't look like that, but I hope it is...

 

[mauve]

If this is true, it will rather be disappointing for me. I am not much of a country-Fan. Well, let's wait and see ...

 

[njdevils94]

Is that really country?

Doesn't look like that, but I hope it is...

No country-pop from what I've heard. The male singer of Tennessee Tears also co-wrote their song apparently.

This is the most excited I've been for the UK entry in a long time

They look to be able to sing unlike the like the last two performer who flopped with the audience.

 

[Mrm]

If this is true, it will rather be disappointing for me. I am not much of a country-Fan. Well, let's wait and see ...

But it is quite popular in Germany...