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I guess I'll find everything out when I wake up, I'll still be asleep in my part of the world
 

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Tried to make a dreamdraw for Sweden, would look something like this:

Pot 1
Albania
Slovenia
Malta

Malta does often vote for the swedish songs and it is quite likely that Albania may too. Slovenia is the best of the rest I assume.

Pot 2:
Sweden
Denmark
Norway
Estonia

Some may be surprised with picking Estonia instead of Iceland or Finland, but these two countries rarely give us better than 8 (if not the song is amazing). I think Estonia is a stronger pick for us.

Pot 3:
Russia
Israel
Georgia

Russia and Israel has voted quite a lot on us recently. Georgia is the best of the rest.

Pot 4:
Netherlands
Belgium
Ireland

No question here, even if NL and Belgium problably would vote on each other, it is likely they would go for a strong nordic song too. Ireland in the semi, with no baltic country is suitible too.

Pot 5:
Hungary
Portugal
Czech Republic

Portugal has voted pretty decent on us recently. Hungary is a country that often vote for one or two nordic songs. Czech could vote for anyone I assume, but it works if Poland would get that place too.

Something like that would be awesome for us! :D

EDIT: forgot the prequalified, but would like UK, France and Austria in our semi! ;)
 

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Oh yes. I didn't know that, sorry.

No harm done ;) Armenia was the biggest troll that night! that was an awkward moment because the Armenian presenter showed a picture of Karabagh on her tablet to get the Azeri delegation mad after the incident of the country presentation video, yet they gave them one point like : "yeah, ok, you were still worth something" :lol:
 

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For Estonia I hope for:

Semi-final 1

Three random countries from pot 1
Really doesn't matter
They all hate us

Estonia
Finland
Latvia
Sweden

Lithuania
Russia
Belarus

Ireland
Netherlands
Greece

Moldova
Hungary
Poland

+
France
Spain
UK
 

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Everyone wanting the UK voting in their semi. :'D I feel the love.
 

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Everyone wanting the UK voting in their semi. :'D I feel the love.

I'd take Germany over UK, but they've been allocated to vote in SF2 and I'd prefer Estonia to be in SF1. But UK is a good second choice. :)
 

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I'd take Germany over UK, but they've been allocated to vote in SF2 and I'd prefer Estonia to be in SF1. But UK is a good second choice. :)

Wooooow. Well you can stuff it now, I hope we are drawn to vote in a different semi.

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Tried to make a dreamdraw for Sweden, would look something like this:

Pot 2:
Sweden
Denmark
Norway
Estonia

And people would ask why pots were necessary ........

Imho pots don't help anything to make Eurovision more fair
 

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I hope we will get 2nd half, in 1st half producers or fortune have always given us 2nd or 3rd slot.
 

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For dramaturgy purposes. They don't want to risk opening the show with a low-key ballad or having 5 uptempo songs in a row anymore.
But it's not fair. Everything should be decided by draw. I understand that Danes hadn't anything against (because it was Swedish idea), but why Austria is continuing it?
Imho pots don't help anything to make Eurovision more fair
Maybe it doesn't make Eurovision more fair, but if you can't find a proper solution, you need to use some half measures.
 

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As long as they keep the corrupted system of producers' picking the order, I will not care for these draws.
 

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But it's not fair. Everything should be decided by draw. I understand that Danes hadn't anything against (because it was Swedish idea), but why Austria is continuing it?

I don't think it's fair at all either. But if you think from a TV producer's perspective it becomes more understandable as their main intension is to create a good TV show.

An alternative I could imagine working quite well would be dividing the songs into an uptempo and a downtempo pot and then have a draw from those.
 

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An alternative I could imagine working quite well would be dividing the songs into an uptempo and a downtempo pot and then have a draw from those.

This or divide songs into a mixture of country / genre (tempo) pots... and this idea has surfaced already, but they don't listen to it because frankly they want to control and let corruption has its way aswell, otherwise they could have easily changed it.
 

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But it's not fair. Everything should be decided by draw. I understand that Danes hadn't anything against (because it was Swedish idea), but why Austria is continuing it?

Maybe it doesn't make Eurovision more fair, but if you can't find a proper solution, you need to use some half measures.

the whole procedure is not decided by the national producer but by the EBU.
 

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[MENTION=14099]marty[/MENTION] I doubt the host broadcasters have no voice about who to favor or not. So far, Sweden gave Denmark a nice spot in 2013, and vice versa in 2014. And I remember the whole Scandinavia was well allocated in the semis.
 

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[MENTION=14099]marty[/MENTION] I doubt the host broadcasters have no voice about who to favor or not. So far, Sweden gave Denmark a nice spot in 2013, and vice versa in 2014. And I remember the whole Scandinavia was well allocated in the semis.

the pots are decided by ebu. only the exact running order is decided by the host producer together with ebu.
 

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