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0h exuce me if i talk about Kurdistan, but you know is summer and not a good period of eurovision, we dont have many argouments about esc in this time, the season start in september.
Turkey TURKEY 2015 - not taking part
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ESCTurkeyFan6767
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But you don't have to talk about it only because it's not the Eurovision season.
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Nikkita
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Yeah,like closing Twitter,Youtube or Facebook.Or making the education system harder and harder,like having 5 and 7 year olds in the same classes.And Merkel definitely talks in a rude way.
I have been in Germany and my grandparents were ''Gastarbeiter'' in the 80s,they came back but some of our family are still in Germany.And they have a lot better living standarts then us.The middle class families have houses with gardens,plasma tv and cars.Things take years to have in Turkey,are much cheaper in Germany.So i can definitely understand people cheering for Erdoğan and booing Merkel in Köln.
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Turkey is generally cheaper than Germany! In Germany you must spend 13 years of school to get a very good job which is good paid! Closing Twitter is sth different.
In Germany you have to pay many taxes and you have to pay the pension for the pensioner each month which is subtracted from your money. We have to pay for poor people! Also Germany will use the Fracking-Method for pressing oil on the ground. This has bad consequences! We could have a huge poisoning problem and we have to wear masks! This is even worse than not have Twitter! And I can tell you even more things which are also here in Germany where some of us don't agree.
People like you destroyed Turkey because they don't agree with the new rules which are making Turkey even better!
I think this summer you should go to an English course (from the beginner level) rather than wasting your time on such stuff
Avalon
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I think this summer you should go to a Social Contact course (from the beginner level) rather than wasting your time on such stuff
Yoni
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#yıkılmış
Well; I'm not the one trolling here.
Nikkita
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Dude,are you serious? Is studying 13 years a problem? I'm not going to argue with you anymore,because i can't understand you.It looks like i'm talking to a wall.
And about the Kurdistan issue,we can call the Eastern part Kurdistan,because Turks are minority there.But even Kurds don't want a country in that place.
ESCTurkeyFan6767
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Studying is not the real problem! You can't hate Erdogan only because school takes longer than here in Germany! Every country has a different system! Talk about real problems!
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Well I don't feel safe in my own country with a PM who slaps people then goes "This is what you get when you protest me.". Is that a good reason for you? I don't like being called "atheist, terrorist, alcoholic" by my own PM, who basically runs judicial system at this point, just because I don't support him. I don't want children (who do not have bombs by the way) to die just because they don't like him either. I don't want TV presenters to be fired because a deputy finds their dresses "too sexy". I don't want journalists to be fired or put in the jail because they're supporting other parties. Do you know that they started to kick out studens from dormitories who writes anti government posts on twitter. They also fired many teachers because of that. I don't know maybe it's easy to talk about these stuff when you live in another country and not feeling the threat. Maybe it's easy to me too, because I live in İzmir, I don't know but even posting comments like this will terrify me soon. They tried to save everything you do when you're online to sue you. They even passed the law about that.
Back to the topic now: I don't want a government who causes us to not participate in ESC.
dragvision
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ahaha dont think turkey come on back especially after Erdogian victory in the elections.
Is CADDE trustworthy? Its purely speculation from this CADDE website, that wiwibloggs is writing about. I will be surprised if Turkey return this year, especially how the juries acted this year in several countries. Probably the juries will do to turkey next year that they did to Poland this year.
Ewigkeit
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No, this is not trustworthy. I saw this like months ago.
DanielLuis
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They would do that if Turkey sends a song similar to the Polish song. I mean I loved the Polish song and I wanted it to do even better, but the juries didn't downgrade it just because it was Poland, let's not be pathetic. Anyway a bit OT here.
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Yes they did downgrade it, just look at what countries' juries that put it tactically last... that was an anti- country vote no doubt.
Anyhow, I don't think Turkey will come back. But we'll see...
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Well I don't want to start an OT discussion but there is no reason for any country to downgrade Poland just because it's Poland....it's the same thing that happened with Montenegro last year, the juries don't like that genre and downoagraded it, not because it was Poland. I mean just back in 2008 Poland sent a song more in the juries' style and the juries gave it their wildcard in the semi-final...
Anyway I don't think Turkey will be back either, not in the next few years.
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Let's beg to differ, all signs are there if one dares to open their eyes... it wasn't just about the "genre" (no wonder why those countries with large Polish diaspora put it dead last)... anyhow like you said that's OT so let's not go further into that and just agree to disagree.
Well, with TRT's attitude I won't miss them tbh, although I feel sorry for the Turkish ESC fans.