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Jeansy

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

I'm sorry but they let Lordi go on dressed as Demons why are they asking they change their name and uniforms :(
 

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I'm sorry but they let Lordi go on dressed as Demons why are they asking they change their name and uniforms :(

The mosnters were not a trademark. That's the difference.
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

I'm sorry but they let Lordi go on dressed as Demons why are they asking they change their name and uniforms :(

The monsters were fiction. Their name and uniforms are real ;)
 

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The monsters were fiction. Their name and uniforms are real ;)

Okay I suppose so, still sounds a bit unfair, but rules are rules I guess.
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

Not to mention the fact Lordi weren't religious, whereas Heilsarmee are. The contest forbids overtly religious content I think
 

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I'm agreeing on them to change their name and suits, even though I really suppose it has been done with commercial purpose. They already knew it would have been ending like this and they played on it. Whatever other name and suit they will choose, everyone will know they are the salvation army!
Beside this, this song rocks and I really like it. I'm fighting to understand if they or Margaret Berger are my favourite singers for this edition!!!!
 

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For the love of the angels in the sky, how can The Queen's name be dragged into this utter crap's den to be tainted with wild contention comparisons? IOTAP
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

stop using the religion stuff, their song is not even religious, its something that even an atheist person can relate with.
 

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stop using the religion stuff, their song is not even religious, its something that even an atheist person can relate with.

There's nothing about religion in the song but the people who sing it are The Salvation Army which is a Protestant Christian organization, and I think that's where the problem is coming from.
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

Yes, it's not about religion. There was a group of priests in the German NF and they most likely wouldn't have had to change their looks or anything as they are not breaking trademark rules. I mean look at a lot of songs from Israel, half of them have religious messages in them without being overly inappropriate. So those who think it's unfair, it's all about trademark.
 

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Yes, it's not about religion. There was a group of priests in the German NF and they most likely wouldn't have had to change their looks or anything as they are not breaking trademark rules. I mean look at a lot of songs from Israel, half of them have religious messages in them without being overly inappropriate. So those who think it's unfair, it's all about trademark.

Yes the issue is the trademark, but I must say that in France we are particularly concerned about not expressing religion in a public place. So the Priests would have been quite offensive in Eurovision. I mean, we also have a group of Priests, but it's just impossible to imagine them representing France. It would have been considered as highly provocative... So, I'm not keen on seeing christian organisations on the Eurovision stage. It's completely out of place...
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

I actually think these song's lyrics are quite provocative in the band's context, without being overtly so, or containing direct religious matter.
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

I actually think these song's lyrics are quite provocative in the band's context, without being overtly so, or containing direct religious matter.

Could you clarify on what exact words do you think are "provocative in the band's context" ?
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

Basically they're saying the world has gone lost but that they themselves are safe. They never mention love, so one can safely assume (as we know who they are) that it's because of their beliefs. A bit arrogant I'd say.
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

Basically they're saying the world has gone lost but that they themselves are safe. They never mention love, so one can safely assume (as we know who they are) that it's because of their beliefs. A bit arrogant I'd say.

I guess if you take who they are into context then the whole song can be quite provocative..
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

I guess if you take who they are into context then the whole song can be quite provocative..

Interesting the salvation army are provocative.... thats a new one.

Here in Denmark the army normally stands out on the street and collect money wile they are sining and playing instruments.... Let them play i Copenhagen in may, I think we will stop and for once listen to their music
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

I'm sorry, please don't misunderstand me, I do not believe that the salvation army is provocative at all, I was just stating that given that the Salvation Army is a Religious Organisation and the lyrics for the song , an argument could be made that it comes close to breaking the rules on Eurovision songs.
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

Anyone else feel Switzerland is moving backwards from the progress they made with In Love for a While? After they finally made the final they have gone back to the same type of songs that have always left them in the semis. Its a nice song but nothing about it really stands out. That combine with the fact that they always choose so early helps make them forgotten.
 

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Re: SWITZERLAND 2013 - Heilsarmee - You and me

I'm sorry, please don't misunderstand me, I do not believe that the salvation army is provocative at all, I was just stating that given that the Salvation Army is a Religious Organisation and the lyrics for the song , an argument could be made that it comes close to breaking the rules on Eurovision songs.


Ahh Okay... havn't thourgh about that.
 
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