Contact us

Spain SPAIN 2018 - Alfred & Amaia - Tu canción

How do you rate the entry?

  • 12

    32 12.7%

  • 10

    22 8.7%

  • 8

    25 9.9%

  • 7

    14 5.6%

  • 6

    22 8.7%

  • 5

    27 10.7%

  • 4

    17 6.7%

  • 3

    18 7.1%

  • 2

    21 8.3%

  • 1

    13 5.2%

  • 0

    41 16.3%
  • Total voters
    252
cegs5
peru

cegs5

Well-known member
Joined
March 6, 2012
Posts
6,360
SirPeterGriffin said:
Most likely, no. I've seen many interviews from them and their chemistry is absolutely non existent. How people are falling for this fakeness is a mystery to me...
Click to expand...

Well, this version of Operacion Triunfo was a remake of the one in 2002,which was the most succesful tv programme ever. TVE repeated the same formula, same dramas and promotion to the favourite girl as a "very special and unique natural artist" exactly how they promoted Rosa Lopez back then... and also they have the fantastic idea to remade the love story between two of the public favourites: David Bisbal and Chenoa in 2002... Amaia and Alfred 2017/18. The formula worked, people bought the soap opera and TVE is using them as much as they can, so Eurovision was the perfect plan to get them alive before, as usual, people forget them.

These two guys are just characters to me, I can't see any chemistry either, and Alfred especially is such a bad actor.
 
spain

bochan

Member
Joined
March 1, 2015
Posts
61
If only Bisbal and Cheona were forgotten...

Not been a fan of any edition of OT, but I can tell 2018 and 2002 castings are completely diferent worlds. You can't compare Amaia with Rosa, and Bisbal-Chenoa with "Almaia" or whatever they are called. I didn't buy any of them, but hell no, they are not the same. Not even similar. I guess they all are TV products for domestic consumption, but well... the have evolve form "Rosa de España" in 2002 to "España de mierda" in 2018.
TVE is actually willing to get rid of both as soon as possible.
 
cegs5
peru

cegs5

Well-known member
Joined
March 6, 2012
Posts
6,360
bochan said:
If only Bisbal and Cheona were forgotten...

Not been a fan of any edition of OT, but I can tell 2018 and 2002 castings are completely diferent worlds. You can't compare Amaia with Rosa, and Bisbal-Chenoa with "Almaia" or whatever they are called. I didn't buy any of them, but hell no, they are not the same. Not even similar. I guess they all are TV products for domestic consumption, but well... the have evolve form "Rosa de España" in 2002 to "España de mierda" in 2018.
TVE is actually willing to get rid of both as soon as possible.
Click to expand...

Never said they as artists are the same... but the OT formula was, it was pretty obvious how they manipulated the audience with a nostalgic first generation come-back and tv programme celebrating their 15 years... then they adapted the formula for this generation of course. Probably after Eurovision they both are not anymore the product to sell, perhaps another edition is coming or perhaps TVE has other plans... but the point is that they have been just objects to sell in market with complicity of the whole media that wanted some fresh meat, but in the end as any other industry product, they are disposable (thank you Salvador for that word)
 
israel

Ezio

Veteran
Joined
January 29, 2017
Posts
7,354
Location
Loin d'ici
tres minutos de nada :(
 
Ausesken
spain

Ausesken

Well-known member
Joined
February 14, 2017
Posts
4,549
Location
Catalonia
Tbh I did believe Amaia ended up liking Alfred (and I say ‘like’, not ‘love’), but I always suspected about Alfred’s intentions with Amaia. She was a favourite from the start, and getting close to her could have been a strategy to gain more popularity. I know they knew each other in the castings, but still I think Alfed’s interest in Amaia was too exaggerated and too ‘premature’. I think it takes some time falling in love that way... So no, I don’t believe this couple is real XD but anyway Eurovision is about songs, right? You like the song or you don’t like it, we shouldn’t care about the personal life of the performers.
 
Sean
canada

Sean

Admin
Staff member
Joined
September 28, 2009
Posts
17,246
Location
Calgary
Here are our thoughts on the Spanish rehearsal, hope you enjoy!

 
spain

bochan

Member
Joined
March 1, 2015
Posts
61
cegs5 said:
but the point is that they have been just objects to sell in market with complicity of the whole media that wanted some fresh meat, but in the end as any other industry product, they are disposable (thank you Salvador for that word)
Click to expand...
Basically this is true for the whole thing we call ESC, not just for Amaia and Alfred. I don't get your criticism on that point.
 
cegs5
peru

cegs5

Well-known member
Joined
March 6, 2012
Posts
6,360
bochan said:
Basically this is true for the whole thing we call ESC, not just for Amaia and Alfred. I don't get your criticism on that point.
Click to expand...

Indeed, but in Spain there's a lot of people believing in them as the new unique artists the world was waiting for (I've been living in Spain for a while)...but they are not. Now, after a couple of months of the OT fever, the media is already preparing the field to get rid of them criticising every single step they do, using even political issues for that (it sells a lot!) but in the winter it was obscene how they made believe Amaia was the new world superstar and their love story was so pure, innocent and never seen on tv... when it was actually as scripted as a mexican telenovela. Cringe.
 
Leydan

Leydan

Super Moderator 🌴
Staff member
Joined
March 1, 2013
Posts
18,857
Location
UK
Spain drew first half
 
Milos-BC
serbia

Milos-BC

Well-known member
Joined
September 28, 2009
Posts
12,601
Location
Serbia
I kinda like it but it sounds way too oldfashioned. I would expect to hear this on ESC 2001. While the song isn't bad, I don't think it will manage to escape the lower part of the scoreboard.


4 points.
 
Kevan1994
canada

Kevan1994

Well-known member
Joined
March 19, 2018
Posts
395
I don't know what's wrong with me but I got goosebumps seeing their clip last night :eek:. I mean I think the song's okay and all but nonetheless, I got goosebumps
 
Mrm
serbia

Mrm

Veteran
Joined
March 11, 2013
Posts
20,277
Spain is doing extremely good on YT and it is not only due to Spanish fans based on comments...

It grew on me a bit after performance in the semi..it features interesting vocals..and it doesn't look as pathetic as it looked earlier..

I can totally see Span doing Michał Szpak , and he didn';t do well only die to Polish diaspora as many ppl think.. ;)
 
simonPL
poland

simonPL

Well-known member
Joined
April 28, 2014
Posts
1,035
Mrm said:
I can totally see Span doing Michał Szpak , and he didn';t do well only die to Polish diaspora as many ppl think.. ;)
Click to expand...

Of course. Polish diaspora can bring Monika Kuszyńska's poor result tops. Or even worse like all PL results before 2015.

Regardless of YT views I just can't stand Spain this year. To sweet, infantile, when they were doing that "la-la-la" during 1st semi I was like "give me a gun". They and Rybak get on my nerves. Like Belarus did, and they are gone, so... keep my fingers crossed for another flops! :mrgreen:
 
Mrm
serbia

Mrm

Veteran
Joined
March 11, 2013
Posts
20,277
simonPL said:
Of course. Polish diaspora can bring Monika Kuszyńska's poor result tops. Or even worse like all PL results before 2015.

Regardless of YT views I just can't stand Spain this year. To sweet, infantile, when they were doing that "la-la-la" during 1st semi I was like "give me a gun". They and Rybak get on my nerves. Like Belarus did, and they are gone, so... keep my fingers crossed for another flops! :mrgreen:
Click to expand...

Rybak gets on my nerves INCREDIBLY...everybody knows me as the biggest hater of him since "Fairytale" :mrgreen:
I didn't like Spain earlier, but now I like it more and more.. :)
 
Leydan

Leydan

Super Moderator 🌴
Staff member
Joined
March 1, 2013
Posts
18,857
Location
UK
slot 2 Spain... Bjorkman as seen this entry off into a deep and dark grave.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top Bottom