alca
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Yup that was smart. This time she asked to stop the music. Well played Lea! Good job sLOVEnia!
Slovenia SLOVENIA 2018 - Lea Sirk - Hvala, ne!
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Yup that was smart. This time she asked to stop the music. Well played Lea! Good job sLOVEnia!
Geborgenheit
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I don't think it has to do with politics. The Ukrainian entry has been rather weak this year, many Ukrainians would agree with that.
I have slammed juries many times already, but this decision is actually fair. The singer didn't even understand the lyrics.
Carian
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Not understanding the lyrics is even less the reason why Ukraine flopped with juries. As far as I can remember, not a single Ukrainian singer was particulary good at speaking English (someo of them even sang really badly). As for juries fairness towards Ukraine - I don't agree entirely. I think that the guy actually did more than a decent job. Entire Europe is also not stupid nor deaf. So, 7th in televote and 26th in jury votes?!?!?!
On the other hand, Australia was top10 according to juries (though her singing was really really poor) and 26th in televote?!?!?! Something is not right.
oh, anaraqueen, I have my birthday on 24th of julyshall we party together?
besides, thanx for cheering for our gurl, perhaps you should move here
let's party on the 23rd then!!!!!
who knows? hahah but no lies i'll try to do my masters there in Europe so the distance won't be that far anymore (AND I'll be able to vote!!!)
musicfan
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I wanted the first point there too.
And agreed, the Austrian result was weird. I suppose it's a simple song that might be radio friendly, but surely juries should aim higher than that? The vocal was ok I guess, but there's more important things like the actual music sung and played. The staging wasn't that great either.
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Good job Lea! Congrats Slovenia!
I'm slightly disappointing of the few televoting points cause I was hopping to be far more than juries' but that's life....
I'm slightly disappointing of the few televoting points cause I was hopping to be far more than juries' but that's life....
Carian
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I think she did fine. She said herself that the song was written in 10 minutes, so... She made a great show, and this is the reason why she got to the finals. However, this was the most she could do with this song. Besides, she had also the language problem - I still think she shoul have sang in English in order to get the message through. But this was her own mistake. She did not carefully read the national selection rules this year.
In my opinion, Lea and her qualification is one more proof that ESC is not only about music. It is also a TELEVISION SHOW. Nonetheless, I still love the song and Lea convinced me as personality. Great gurl. I am proud of her.
Amethystos
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I thought slovenian lang worked miracles over this. In english it would have been too poor.
A singer's personality is able to add value to a mediocre song. A single language's "personalized color sounds" may deliver more uniqueness.
Both were there to help Slovenia this year...
Carian
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I disagree with you about the language - I have read comments in YT, and a lot of people were perplexed by the fact they couldn't understand the lyrics and what the song was all about. But as I said, I still consider Lea and her ESC story this year a huge success. She has beaten the odds and shut up many haters. And she did it in such a funny, polite way...
Oh, and one interesting fact. In her interview for our national broadcaster, she said after finals that the winning song is not her cup of tea. I guess she shares the opinion of Slovenians who did not give one single point to Israel - nor juries nor televote. I was quite surprised to see that Slovenians didn't like the chicken dance.
KFC is shook
I see your jury preferred McDonald's (Sweden) and Burger King (Austria) while viewers opted for more traditional cuisines (Serbia, Italy)
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Hvala, ne! gave the attitude and spice that the every Eurovision final needs. The song was incredibly slick and well-produced. I was surprised this repeatedly slipped under the radar. Slovenia making it to the final is great. If they can produce more entries along the same vein as this one, they can see a top 10 in the near future. The breakdown gimmick thing was always weird to me, but I understood why they took the risk in the semi and now had to live with it in the final because you can't revamp your semi performances. You can tell Lea wanted to qualify and she achieved this goal. It's a cool entry and very well performed, especially vocally considering the constant moving on stage.
nofuxCZ
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Lea was amazing yesterday, as all the other times. I am glad I voted for it and that you didn't finish at the bottom
Also happy that our Czech jury gave Lea the highest jury points (7) - they have a taste!
Also happy that our Czech jury gave Lea the highest jury points (7) - they have a taste!
It's written just above the detailed results:
semi final
https://eurovision.tv/event/lisbon-2018/second-semi-final/voting-details/slovenia
grand final
https://eurovision.tv/event/lisbon-2018/grand-final/voting-details/slovenia
Carian
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Well, I think cringy is a heavy word. After all, no one will ever please everyone's taste. A lot of people said they liked the trick, and I agree with them. It was well played and well timed.
So, who is right of two of us? Your cringy comment or my superb comment? After all, it was obviously not that cringy if Lea made it to the finals, though everyone predicted and betted that she would end up in the 42nd position...
Carian
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OMG Raiven was in the jury!
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Gush, I am so tired today that I am all the time making some mistakes in forums
Apologies for missing that 1 point for the chicken song. And I am not saying "chicken" song to offend Israeli fans or Netta. It is a fact that she is doing the chicken sounds.Anyways, today I was thinking about juries and their role in ESC. Now, when I saw your post how Raiven voted, I must say that I do not agree with her ranking of Netta. Also the Portuguese song was not that badly sung after all. So, why am I making these observations? I just want to say that I really do not understand according to which criteria judges rank entries. In all seriousness, I'd expect that they would judge more homogenously, rewarding good singers, downgrading bad singers for the "technical" aspects of performance. However, when you look at these results, judges votes in particular, you cannot get but the impression that they use the same criteria as average televoters. So, this brings us to the question, why get 5 people the right that their votes outweight the votes of masses, if they judge the acts by the same criteria as we do???
You know, I am not musically educated nor talented, but I could hear that Cesar from Austria made a couple of technical errors, the same goes for the Australian entry. So, if I can hear that they were not pitch perfect, why judges don't punish them for it? Lea was dancing, moving, jumping, walking, but she was almost always on point, but she was graded by juries as though she was the worse singer. I really don't understand the role of judges.
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For a song that is constantly shunned by the media, I think it did well. There is generally no support for this song at all. There is only so much Lea and her team can do.
So qualifying to the finals is the best that they can wish for and I am happy with it qualifying.
Lea is charismatic and the delegation took a risk with such a song that is not your typical Eurovision fare and is in fact in its native language.
Well done, Slovenia!
So qualifying to the finals is the best that they can wish for and I am happy with it qualifying.
Lea is charismatic and the delegation took a risk with such a song that is not your typical Eurovision fare and is in fact in its native language.
Well done, Slovenia!