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The Wiki is back!


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nscwiki.com
or https://nationsongcontest.miraheze.org/

This is our very own Wiki database, hosted by the kind people at Miraheze.
The purpose of the NSC Wiki is to provide a resource of the Nation Song Contest, the history of all previous entries in all previous editions, all the participating nations past and present and a wealth of other information. It is also an area for participants to flesh out the lore and details about their fictional nations.

Being a Wiki, the database relies on user-generated content. That means it's up to all of you to keep the content correct and up to date. Anyone can edit the Wiki, and we rely on this community effort to make sure the whole thing works. There's always a lot of pages in need of renovation or even creation, so if you feel up to the task, grab your keyboard and get to work!

I am the administrator (but likewise a regular contributor) of this Wiki, so feel free to contact me with any questions or suggestions.

Some general guidelines when editing the Wiki
*In short
Don't spam, make sensible edits and respect other contestants!

*Editing contest pages
The most important part of the Wiki is the general pages detailing all the contest history and other such information with huge importance to the community, the best example would be any of the articles about individual editions of the contest. These are of interest to everyone, and they're for anyone to contribute to.
When editing a contest-related article, make sure you try to follow the styles established in previous articles, such as the position and contents of templates, the layout of tables and styles of writing. Correct spelling and grammar is essential, but stylistic variations in names, including nations, artists and song titles, should be followed (example: artists with odd capitalizations, such as iiO or HammerFall). As a rule of thumb, everything should be written only with the Latin alphabet, but try to make sure to include all the correct accents in non-English names and titles (such as Rinôçérôse or Björk). Use the assets available to figure out proper spellings, styles and accents if you're uncertain.
If you don't know the proper way to include an addition with your edit, check around, see if there's anything like it to compare to, or simply ask. Don't be disheartened if someone comes along to correct your edit or gives you pointers for future editing. The Wiki is and will always be a community effort, and your contributions are always appreciated.

*Editing nation pages
As a participant in the contest and the owner of a nation, you are free to create a page about your nation and fill it with various information such as language, culture, history, NSC history or anything else that fits your liking. You are also free to create an unlimited amount of individual pages about your nation's various cities, provinces, celebrities or any such items. While it's recommended to keep the pages well formatted, the content is entirely up to you, and the only requirement is that you categorize the pages within your nation's category and don't give the articles confusing names that can be easily mistaken as related to something else.
Generally, you should not edit articles belonging to someone else's nation without their permission. However, you should accept that nation articles do get occasional outside edits, usually moderation to fix categories or names, but also to clean up things like sloppy formatting or rule breaches such as spam content.
Try to be respectful with content that you add to your nation's pages. Personal attacks are naturally not tolerated, but also check that things like your nation's fictional history doesn't contradict with someone else's history or control details of someone else's nation in a way they don't approve of. Especially if your nation has a location on the map that was previously occupied by a now defunct nation, it's good courtesy to acknowledge that previous nation's existance.
Articles about NSC artists are on the borderland between contest-related and nation-related. If you are the sole sender of a particular artist, feel free to claim the page as your own to make most of the edits, but if the same artist has been sent by another nation in a different edition (or several), it's important that you try to compromise.

*Editing The Dictionary
The NSC Dictionary is perhaps the most popular and topical article on the whole NSC Wiki, and is in much a category of its own. It is one of few articles based entirely around the community aspect of the contest rather than role-playing or the contest aspect itself, and features more or less helpful descriptions of various in-jokes and jargons created by the community, most notably in the group conversations commonly taking place on Windows Live Messenger (MSN). The whole page exists mostly just for fun, and should not be taken seriously or looked at as a credible source of information. While many of the dictionary definitions properly describe the entries to make them more understandable for outsiders, a lot of the content is still mostly added as in-jokes or silly memes without the intention of being helpful. You are free to add your own words and definitions, but try to keep the relevance at a good level, don't go adding dozens of random crazy jokes that only you will understand.
Most importantly, be respectful! Since we're all in a community, things like hostilities or back talks can often arise, and the Dictionary is the most vulnerable place on the Wiki to contain personal attacks. Any dictionary entry making reference to a person in NSC must be approved by the person being referenced him/herself. An entry making jokes at the expense of another person or any other kind of harm, whether intentional or not, will be immediately removed, and action may be taken against the author. If you find yourself being unjustly attacked by another NSC member in the Dictionary (or anywhere else for that matter, both in or out of the Wiki), do not hesitate to report this to an NSC mod.

FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
Unless otherwise noted, the answers in this FAQ are written for the regular source code editor rather than the graphically based Rich Text editor. To turn off Rich Text as your default editor, while logged in go to the "MORE" list in the top right corner and click "Preferences". Choose the tab called "Editing" and uncheck the "Enable Rich Text Editing" option.

*How do I edit an article?
Press "Edit this page", write your text in the big white box and press "Save page".

That's pretty much the whole gist of it. A lot of people who don't take their time to edit the Wiki unfortunately do so because they don't understand how the Wiki works and think it's more advanced than it actually is. It doesn't have to be hard! Just write your text, and if you need to do something fancy with it, such as bold or italics, take a look at the interface buttons and see if the function is there. It's okay if you don't know how to make tables, templates or stuff like that, do what you can and let other people handle the rest! If you want to learn the more advanced stuff, you can ask for help or take a look at Wikipedia's help contents.

*What's up with [any outdated article]?
No one has updated it, simple as that. As unfortunate as it is to see pages left untouched for years, we can't force people to stick around and devote their free time to keep the whole Wiki up to date. If you want to see it fixed, perhaps you could have a go at updating it yourself? Otherwise, if you ask around there may be a kind soul willing to take their time with it, but don't rely too much on everyone else to keep up the Wiki maintenance for you. We're all just human, and we all often have more important things to do.

*How do I upload pictures and add them to articles?
In the default layout, there should be a link in the menu to the left called "Upload file". After browsing for the file in your computer and uploading it, you will get a file name that is basically the page name when looking at the picture (example). When adding the image to an article, you'll want that page name, but with the namespace Image: rather than File:. Add it like you would a link to a different article, within two brackets. The file name is case sensitive, and it's important that it is written exactly like it was after you uploaded it.
Code:
[[Image:Arjastan.png]]
To give a picture a caption, you make it into a thumbnail. Add a line break (|) in the code after the file name and write "thumb" after it, add another line break and write the caption after it.
Code:
[[Image:Arjastan.png|thumb|Flag logo of Arjastan]]
gives
arjfaq.png

Our Wiki uses the same code as regular Wikipedia, so for more formatting options, you can use their help page for reference:
Wikipedia Picture Tutorial

*Where'd the cheese go?
I dunno.

*Can my waiting list nation have its own article(s)?
Sure, we've usually allowed this, albeit informally. Just keep in mind that the Wiki overall is focused on NSC, and WLSC is considered an independent side-event unrelated to "NSC canon".
 
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Mrs Filipovski said:
Anyway, no one knows their placing or points.

Actually, that's not true.
The results were revealed, because I have put on my wiki page my position - I was 3rd in that MPQ, with 176 points.
But I don't know the rest :(
 

Mrs Filipovski

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Scorpion said:
Mrs Filipovski said:
Anyway, no one knows their placing or points.

Actually, that's not true.
The results were revealed, because I have put on my wiki page my position - I was 3rd in that MPQ, with 176 points.
But I don't know the rest :(

Ah, I confused it with the edition where the host didnt remember any points or placings :oops: :ugeek:
 

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Great, then! :D Closer to solving the mystery. :lol: I've no idea how I've missed the 3rd place and 176 points. After all, I had a look at your page, Ervin, to try to find if you had taken part at all but it was your debut, so it was unavoidable. ;)
 

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Mrs Filipovski said:
Anyway, no one knows their placing or points. The host lost them; only the non qualifiers were announced, so there's not any point in contacting anyone since they are probably lost forever.
Are you sure about that? The only MPQ I know of where that occurred was NSC 16. The reason for a 13 Wiki page never being made credited to simple lack of interest and effort. Yes yes, I could be wrong.

This has become a bit redundant due to information revealed while I was writing it up, but it's still worth a post.

What exists of the results, and their reason for even being written down here, was gathered by me during a clean-up of the full entry list, several editions after NSC 13. I was removing MPQ entries that had been sporadically added for some editions by those who made the updates, and subsequently added all of them to their own separate list. With NSC 13 not being listed on the Wiki, I had to go back and fetch that info from the topic. As far as I remember, everything was announced and available, but don't quote me on that. What I do remember is that I considered fixing the whole edition's list while I was at it (implying that the resources existed), but postponed it, mostly due to confusion over how the qualifiers should be handled, separate page or integrated in the edition. That's a concensus that's still yet to be reached for that matter, and since it's become a hot topic, perhaps it's worth a little discussion?

All input is welcome; should individual microstate qualifiers have their own articles, or should the information be included in their respective editions' articles?
 

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Even if people insist that MPQ entries aren't part of the main NSC contest (which they clearly are), surely it can't be denied that they are a part of their respective editions. Having their own articles would just make it far harder to get at the information when it is needed and less obvious where to go to get it. MPQ entries should DEFINITELY be included in the articles for their respective editions. Trying to blot out MPQ entries from NSC history is not the way to go, and that is all that is being achieved by not recognising them as being part of the edition.
 

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Well, there are links to the pages on top of the pages, also I've odne a template about them which can be put in all those editions (10 - 17). Still, expect more opinions and maybe opening a poll would do the trick, in a new separate thread. ;)
 

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Frankly, the whole thing is a bit too distant and trivial to warrant a major poll or its own topic.

Personally, I prefer main article inclusion simply to lessen the clutter. Any other calls?
 

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I've updated the NSC 46 page, using pyryniemi's results.
The conclusion I reached was that, as the host who received the votes, pn's were more accurate, with the errors in Luke's results being as a result of miscommunication when handing the results over.

However, if pyryniemi already has an excel table or some image that shows clearly that those votes have been added up correctly, it would be a useful source to verify if they're correct :p

And yes, I double checked and broke all the ties for NSC 46. Nightwishia's prequalification is fully justified :D (Though I did have a slight panicky moment when I saw that 4-way tie for the first time :lol: )

As for the MPQ thing; main-page-inclusion is fine for me, though I would personally suggest to put them at the bottom of the page (not to spite any of the MPQ-supporters, but simply because the semis and finals are generally more read and referred to)
 

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I'm still experiencing problems when I'm trying to edit the Entries page. The content doesn't really load. Is it because of it's length (tha page's lenght)? I see you haven't changed it since NSC 41, either, Sean. :roll:
 

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Yeah it has well over 1500 entries on it so it'll take a while to load. What I did when I last updated it was copy the coding for a table into word, edit it there and paste it in so you don't have to deal with the webpage for long :p
 

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as a host for the MPQ of NSC14 (or something close to then) that was on my old laptop which has now died :( so unless i can find it on photobucket (which i doubt) i cannot find the results sorry :(
 

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those are the results ya. although someone has got slightly confused doing them :p

two countries on 8th with 54 and 10th place has 76 ;)

this is the info from the qualifiers in my photobucket account, the rest is correct i remember Scorpionia far in front ;)
qualifiers.jpg


so i'm gonna change it :)
 

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I was just thinking, why not create a template to create automatically an "image+country_name"... eg. use {{flag|Arjastan}} and it will display this:
22px-Arjastan.gif
Arjastan ... it will be ideal to not make use of excessive coding and it will be easy to implement, since you don't have to remember the file name of the flag....
 

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chrisportelli said:
I was just thinking, why not create a template to create automatically an "image+country_name"... eg. use {{flag|Arjastan}} and it will display this:
22px-Arjastan.gif
Arjastan ... it will be ideal to not make use of excessive coding and it will be easy to implement, since you don't have to remember the file name of the flag....
Such a thing was started by TF100 some time ago.
http://nsc.wikia.com/index.php?title=Sp ... mespace=10
All the three-letter links in this page contain flag+nation templates, and I'd say this very method is worth continuing, granted people are willing to pick it up.

94ayd said:
And why aren't some flags like Gozitania's in png?
All flag logos were uploaded as GIF files to begin with. Due to the problems this creates when shrinking the images on Wiki pages, it was decided some time ago that all of them should be uploaded as PNG instead. All of the existing ones are also to be reuploaded as PNG, but this has not yet been completed, particularly with the nations that were defunct at that time.
 

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Fearnavigatr said:
Such a thing was started by TF100 some time ago.
http://nsc.wikia.com/index.php?title=Sp ... mespace=10
All the three-letter links in this page contain flag+nation templates, and I'd say this very method is worth continuing, granted people are willing to pick it up.

I think all of these templates are redundant, since we can compact them in just one template and use the switch coding...
 
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