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The Wiki is back!


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nscwiki.com
or https://nationsongcontest.miraheze.org/

This is our very own Wiki database, hosted by the kind people at Miraheze.
The purpose of the NSC Wiki is to provide a resource of the Nation Song Contest, the history of all previous entries in all previous editions, all the participating nations past and present and a wealth of other information. It is also an area for participants to flesh out the lore and details about their fictional nations.

Being a Wiki, the database relies on user-generated content. That means it's up to all of you to keep the content correct and up to date. Anyone can edit the Wiki, and we rely on this community effort to make sure the whole thing works. There's always a lot of pages in need of renovation or even creation, so if you feel up to the task, grab your keyboard and get to work!

I am the administrator (but likewise a regular contributor) of this Wiki, so feel free to contact me with any questions or suggestions.

Some general guidelines when editing the Wiki
*In short
Don't spam, make sensible edits and respect other contestants!

*Editing contest pages
The most important part of the Wiki is the general pages detailing all the contest history and other such information with huge importance to the community, the best example would be any of the articles about individual editions of the contest. These are of interest to everyone, and they're for anyone to contribute to.
When editing a contest-related article, make sure you try to follow the styles established in previous articles, such as the position and contents of templates, the layout of tables and styles of writing. Correct spelling and grammar is essential, but stylistic variations in names, including nations, artists and song titles, should be followed (example: artists with odd capitalizations, such as iiO or HammerFall). As a rule of thumb, everything should be written only with the Latin alphabet, but try to make sure to include all the correct accents in non-English names and titles (such as Rinôçérôse or Björk). Use the assets available to figure out proper spellings, styles and accents if you're uncertain.
If you don't know the proper way to include an addition with your edit, check around, see if there's anything like it to compare to, or simply ask. Don't be disheartened if someone comes along to correct your edit or gives you pointers for future editing. The Wiki is and will always be a community effort, and your contributions are always appreciated.

*Editing nation pages
As a participant in the contest and the owner of a nation, you are free to create a page about your nation and fill it with various information such as language, culture, history, NSC history or anything else that fits your liking. You are also free to create an unlimited amount of individual pages about your nation's various cities, provinces, celebrities or any such items. While it's recommended to keep the pages well formatted, the content is entirely up to you, and the only requirement is that you categorize the pages within your nation's category and don't give the articles confusing names that can be easily mistaken as related to something else.
Generally, you should not edit articles belonging to someone else's nation without their permission. However, you should accept that nation articles do get occasional outside edits, usually moderation to fix categories or names, but also to clean up things like sloppy formatting or rule breaches such as spam content.
Try to be respectful with content that you add to your nation's pages. Personal attacks are naturally not tolerated, but also check that things like your nation's fictional history doesn't contradict with someone else's history or control details of someone else's nation in a way they don't approve of. Especially if your nation has a location on the map that was previously occupied by a now defunct nation, it's good courtesy to acknowledge that previous nation's existance.
Articles about NSC artists are on the borderland between contest-related and nation-related. If you are the sole sender of a particular artist, feel free to claim the page as your own to make most of the edits, but if the same artist has been sent by another nation in a different edition (or several), it's important that you try to compromise.

*Editing The Dictionary
The NSC Dictionary is perhaps the most popular and topical article on the whole NSC Wiki, and is in much a category of its own. It is one of few articles based entirely around the community aspect of the contest rather than role-playing or the contest aspect itself, and features more or less helpful descriptions of various in-jokes and jargons created by the community, most notably in the group conversations commonly taking place on Windows Live Messenger (MSN). The whole page exists mostly just for fun, and should not be taken seriously or looked at as a credible source of information. While many of the dictionary definitions properly describe the entries to make them more understandable for outsiders, a lot of the content is still mostly added as in-jokes or silly memes without the intention of being helpful. You are free to add your own words and definitions, but try to keep the relevance at a good level, don't go adding dozens of random crazy jokes that only you will understand.
Most importantly, be respectful! Since we're all in a community, things like hostilities or back talks can often arise, and the Dictionary is the most vulnerable place on the Wiki to contain personal attacks. Any dictionary entry making reference to a person in NSC must be approved by the person being referenced him/herself. An entry making jokes at the expense of another person or any other kind of harm, whether intentional or not, will be immediately removed, and action may be taken against the author. If you find yourself being unjustly attacked by another NSC member in the Dictionary (or anywhere else for that matter, both in or out of the Wiki), do not hesitate to report this to an NSC mod.

FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
Unless otherwise noted, the answers in this FAQ are written for the regular source code editor rather than the graphically based Rich Text editor. To turn off Rich Text as your default editor, while logged in go to the "MORE" list in the top right corner and click "Preferences". Choose the tab called "Editing" and uncheck the "Enable Rich Text Editing" option.

*How do I edit an article?
Press "Edit this page", write your text in the big white box and press "Save page".

That's pretty much the whole gist of it. A lot of people who don't take their time to edit the Wiki unfortunately do so because they don't understand how the Wiki works and think it's more advanced than it actually is. It doesn't have to be hard! Just write your text, and if you need to do something fancy with it, such as bold or italics, take a look at the interface buttons and see if the function is there. It's okay if you don't know how to make tables, templates or stuff like that, do what you can and let other people handle the rest! If you want to learn the more advanced stuff, you can ask for help or take a look at Wikipedia's help contents.

*What's up with [any outdated article]?
No one has updated it, simple as that. As unfortunate as it is to see pages left untouched for years, we can't force people to stick around and devote their free time to keep the whole Wiki up to date. If you want to see it fixed, perhaps you could have a go at updating it yourself? Otherwise, if you ask around there may be a kind soul willing to take their time with it, but don't rely too much on everyone else to keep up the Wiki maintenance for you. We're all just human, and we all often have more important things to do.

*How do I upload pictures and add them to articles?
In the default layout, there should be a link in the menu to the left called "Upload file". After browsing for the file in your computer and uploading it, you will get a file name that is basically the page name when looking at the picture (example). When adding the image to an article, you'll want that page name, but with the namespace Image: rather than File:. Add it like you would a link to a different article, within two brackets. The file name is case sensitive, and it's important that it is written exactly like it was after you uploaded it.
Code:
[[Image:Arjastan.png]]
To give a picture a caption, you make it into a thumbnail. Add a line break (|) in the code after the file name and write "thumb" after it, add another line break and write the caption after it.
Code:
[[Image:Arjastan.png|thumb|Flag logo of Arjastan]]
gives
arjfaq.png

Our Wiki uses the same code as regular Wikipedia, so for more formatting options, you can use their help page for reference:
Wikipedia Picture Tutorial

*Where'd the cheese go?
I dunno.

*Can my waiting list nation have its own article(s)?
Sure, we've usually allowed this, albeit informally. Just keep in mind that the Wiki overall is focused on NSC, and WLSC is considered an independent side-event unrelated to "NSC canon".
 
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I like the wikia page. It gives a bit more info about each edition that the database doesn't provide (dates, logos...)

It should be nicely updated. :)
 

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The page for NSC 145 is almost done, I have to put in the table for the final and fill in who did not participate in the edition
 

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I've just added the songs from NSC 150, 151, 152, 155, 156, 157, 159, 160 without the results to the Wikia.

I'd like to ask hosts in the future to put a distinct character to separate the Draw, Country Name, Artist, Song, Link in the entries list. ClassifiedCat's " : " is quite good, " " (just a space is no good), and no list is really no good help to prepare the data for the characters to make updating the Wiki easier.

Transforming a list that is similar to a table to a Wikia page is rather easy and fast, so please do that to help keeping it updated. Thanks!
 

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Who is RiddiidiaSS on Wiki? They made almost 20 pages with just "soon" in their title, and I've went through the user contributions on other wikis to see this account make 20 pages a minute on some other song contest pages.

I've blocked this user from editing the wiki, if it's any of you here do say though...
 

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Who is RiddiidiaSS on Wiki? They made almost 20 pages with just "soon" in their title, and I've went through the user contributions on other wikis to see this account make 20 pages a minute on some other song contest pages.

I've blocked this user from editing the wiki, if it's any of you here do say though...
Good catch! xup Seems like it's a bot of some kind. Thanks for all the help getting the wiki updated, by the way! xrose Very much appreciated. :)
 

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Well, I decided to devote some time to updating the NSC wikia. I didn’t want such an interesting detailed history of the contest to be partially blank. :)

From time to time I used to update the wikia before that, but the other day I decided to do some kind of a total update and add all the missing editions starting with NSC 143. Some editions had already been added, but not completely (for example, without results), and some were missing completely. Now everything is there. Well, at least everything essential. :lol:

I would still like to add some descriptions, curious facts, etc, but these are just extra things. The main thing is that there are (I hope :mrgreen:) all the songs (so the wikia can be used as a proper database), all the results (except for NSC 146, where the SF rankings of the qualifiers are lost).

In general, I added various missing information about NSC 143, NSC 146-168 (including songs, results, dates, logos, debuts, withdrawals, which nations missed an edition, which returned and so on).

146, 147, 149, 153, 154 were missing completely (I added everything)
143, 148, 164, 165 were missing almost completely (I added everything missing as well)
150, 151, 152, 155, 156, 157, 159 the results were missing (I added them)
and as for the remaining editions: I also added the missing information

Other than that, I added all the missing flag icons of the active nations, and of some inactive ones.

Hope this could be useful and maybe in some way can encourage some of you to contribute to the wikia too, for example to keep and update your own nation pages, who knows? :D

 

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Veronika needs to change the status to the NSC Mod :D
 

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WOW Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need! xbow

Now, that makes me wonder... What are the *official* semifinal results of NSC 167? With or without mistakenly added bonus points?
In my opinion, it's the corrected ones, with some explanation added for future generations.
 

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WOW Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need! xbow

Now, that makes me wonder... What are the *official* semifinal results of NSC 167? With or without mistakenly added bonus points?
In my opinion, it's the corrected ones, with some explanation added for future generations.

Interesting, I didn't even notice... :lol: and 167 will be remembered by future generations, it doesn't matter how much or less it is explained.... xrofl2 Maybe that's why I haven't noticed. xrofl2
 

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WOW Not the hero we deserve, but the hero we need! xbow

Now, that makes me wonder... What are the *official* semifinal results of NSC 167? With or without mistakenly added bonus points?
In my opinion, it's the corrected ones, with some explanation added for future generations.

-O-

I was actually thinking the host would correct everything and then present the corrected results to us... And while I was waiting I added the available (incorrect) results to the wikia.
But since the host didn't correct them, I think I can do it . :)

It will be with footnotes or smth like that, ofc

UPD: done! :mrgreen:
 

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Any plans to update wikia with the WLSC?

Yes ofc, but now you can use this thread instead, in order not to send previously competed songs. It's fully updated now.
 

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I co-admin another Wiki, and the new layout screwed up the navboxes. I had to redo over 60 of them from scratch so they wouldn't mess up the individual pages
 

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I cannot stand when websites overhaul their layouts like this. I detest it, especially when it makes things worse and even less sense than the previous layout. I mean, I've been using one of those Twitter code/extension thingys that makes Twitter look like old Twitter ever since they changed layout a couple of years ago because the new layout gave me an aneurysm.
 
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