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A question was raised during the LL that Kamande sounds like Rumia 61:
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Personally I believe this can be covered by the recent rule change regarding alternate versions. Others' opinions?
Danza Ex Machina
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Stary Olsa - U karÄmie (In taberna) - OFFICIAL VIDEO
Першы кліп гурта "Стары Ольса" на сярэднявечную застольную песню "In taberna", зняты ў паляўнічым дамку ў лясах Магілёўшчыны ў 2003 годзе.Удзельнікі: рыцары ...
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Personally I believe this can be covered by the recent rule change regarding alternate versions. Others' opinions?
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entry! pls make sure that you listened to it before voting!Everything is replaced in the show as well.
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Yes, I also think so.
I agree too. They appear to be based on the same traditional folk song, but I don't see much in common other than that same basic repeating melody. You could possibly even argue that this would be allowed pre-rule change as a case of sampling. But the rule change removes all doubt for me
theditz83
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Kamandé video is not available for me. I used this link instead:
dogmeat
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The problem is that this repeating melody is most of the song.
U Karchme repeats this motif (let's call it "the hook" from now on) throughout the song, switching between vocals and bagpipes as the lead. Let's compare it to Danza Ex Machina.
(0:00-0:15) Danza Ex Machina starts with a short intro with the hook faintly audible..
(0:15-0:45) then it's the hook repeated twice with vocals.
(0:45-1:04) Instrumental with some sort of synthesizer in place of bagpipes. This part starts same as the hook, but then there's some noticeable variation in the melody.
(1:04-1:19) Vocals. The hook, but slight variation at the end.
(1:19-1:34) Instrumental. The hook.
(1:34-2:10) Vocal part that's completely different to anything in U Karchme.
(2:10-2:26) Vocal. The hook, but again with the slight modification at the end.
(2:26-3:01) Instrumental. The hook twice.
As for the rhythmic section. Both songs are in the same tempo (about 65 bpm) and signature (4/4).
I analyzed the rhythm pattern in correspondive parts - 1:19 in Danza Ex Machina and 1:28 in U Karchme.
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It's ofc different in other fragments, but I already took way too much time extracting just this one. Probably someone with a more trained ear could point out mistakes in the notation above.
Do whatever you want with this. My opinion is that it would make the song invalid under the old rule, because the main motif is identical with minor variations and repeating throughout most of both songs. It's valid under new rule thanks to those minor variations, the original 1:34-2:10 fragment and the beat being different - despite the same tempo and signature.
here's your analysis @pyryniemi
I guess I've got too much free time lately.
theditz83
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Considering the song, yes, absolutely.
Trying to figure out how a giraffe is the animal of
Beautiful banners tho.
Omg, because of all that drama I forgot to reply.
Well, your nation seems too friendly to me to give it a bat. Jemmuise looks more shady/mysterious imo (no offence).
And yeah, that palm trees in your flag and overall atmosphere of your nation gave me that slight glimpse of a giraffe as well.
I made everything just based on my associations with the nations, no connection to the songs! And most of the banners were made beforehand.
But ofc it turned out to be kinda symbolic that yours and Jemmuise banners are situated next to each other in that particular order.
First bat, then corona virus.
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Morty
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I'm one of the few who sends black/death metal occasionally, and yet we are considered too friendly. Excellent, theOmg, because of all that drama I forgot to reply.
Well, your nation seems too friendly to me to give it a bat. Jemmuise looks more shady/mysterious imo (no offence).
And yeah, that palm trees in your flag and overall atmosphere of your nation gave me that slight glimpse of a giraffe as well.
I made everything just based on my associations with the nations, no connection to the songs! And most of the banners were made beforehand.
But ofc it turned out to be kinda symbolic that yours and Jemmuise banners are situated next to each other in that particular order.
First bat, then corona virus.
propaganda machine is working. It makes sense tho, the dark paths of the island are generally off limits for tourists, and we want to be seen as more of a tropical paradise than a gateway to hell. But that running order is pretty awesome tbh.
Le Bruit
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I'm an octopus.
I touch everything and shoot liquid with my big pink head.
I touch everything and shoot liquid with my big pink head.
Omg
These are just my associations, sometimes a bit difficult to explain, but I'll try!
It was actually the first animal which came to my mind, when I started creating your banner. Somehow that branch-shaped pattern in your flag made me think about that elk/moose as well.
And overall I tried to pick large and mighty animals for the pot 6 nations.
These are just my associations, sometimes a bit difficult to explain, but I'll try!
It was actually the first animal which came to my mind, when I started creating your banner. Somehow that branch-shaped pattern in your flag made me think about that elk/moose as well.
And overall I tried to pick large and mighty animals for the pot 6 nations.
I'm intrigued with my cat also. I just assumed it was because I like cats.
azilio99
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i'm not gonna ask. I'm a snail 