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I don't think it is fair to point at BBC, they have no authority to "decide". There are regulations they have to follow afterall.
i get what ur trying to say here but serving cant does not mean the same thing as when you use the swear word against someone so you would have to actually misunderstand the english saying that's being sung using a maltese word wrong for you to think she's swearing.Well „ich komme“ is not understood by everyone, unline the c-word. Secondly, it is falsly pronounced so for non native speakers it‘s even harder to understand and thridly anyone can take the non-sexual meaning, whereas in „serving c…“ you don‘t have the option instantly - cuz nearly no one would be that fluent in maltese to swith mentally to the alledged harmless meaning.
They want us to think she’s swearing though - that was point of Kant. A not so clever play on the C-word.i get what ur trying to say here but serving cant does not mean the same thing as when you use the swear word against someone so you would have to actually misunderstand the english saying that's being sung using a maltese word wrong for you to think she's swearing.
They want us to think she’s swearing though - that was point of Kant. A not so clever play on the C-word.
I’ve seen the song’s defenders elsewhere try and say she’s doing the RuPaul thing of saying Charisma, Uniqueness, Nerves and Talent in place of the C-word but using Kant as a cover.
If only they’d been that clever when writing it. I think if they done that instead, they’d have got round it.
I have no sympathy for Miriana or Malta. Their gamble failed. And rightly so!
Or they will just make Miriana sing "I'm serving...." and they will project "KANT" in capitalised/big letters on screen for the audience to sing it - (showing all the ghey middle aged men in the audience mouthing that word). OMG - this whole thing will be iconic, camp and absolutely embarrassing at the same time.
This is exactly what I envision happening. They'll just have her say nothing in this new version. The audience will say the word for Miriana and there will be absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. They might add a sound effect in place of "kant" as well, perhaps even a censor beep.
I think it would be funnier though if they actually do add a new word. "Serving looks" would send me to an early grave. I'd wet myself laughing and would be forced to support the entry somewhat.
I dont see the big issue.
KANT means "Singing" in Maltese.
Just sing "Serving singing" instead and then you don't need to worry about changing lyrics.
I can see it being left intentionally blank too - or serving oops - something like that but the audience will fill in the gap (very loudly) for sure.This is exactly what I envision happening. They'll just have her say nothing in this new version. The audience will say the word for Miriana and there will be absolutely nothing anyone can do about it. They might add a sound effect in place of "kant" as well, perhaps even a censor beep.
I think it would be funnier though if they actually do add a new word. "Serving looks" would send me to an early grave. I'd wet myself laughing and would be forced to support the entry somewhat.
The EBU presides over the competition though and needs to ensure broadcasters are complying with their respective rules. I do think people are forgetting this.i really don't care enough about this entry to write paragraphs on this but the way you frame this makes it seems as if you really don't even understand what that saying that's implied with the title means lol.
this is just an embarrassing decision on the ebu's half who accepted this entry just for this to unfold now. they rarely show a backbone and sorry as others have said the ebu is not responsible for how the broadcasters handle whatever they deem unacceptable or whatever within the show when the ebu has previously ruled it as acceptable. as others have pointed out there were numerous ways for the uk voice over commentary to introduce this song and song title without making it too awkward and clearly stating that the title of the song is the maltese word for singing.
i really don't get what weird schadenfreude this unleashes in some, yes the song's attentions seeking but you're tuning into eurovision, half of the show consists of attention seeking camp humour. my feeling would be completely different if this song had been rejected from the get go but it wasn't; and this decision being made close to the deadline leaves an even bigger sour taste to it.
i really don't care enough about this entry to write paragraphs on this but the way you frame this makes it seems as if you really don't even understand what that saying that's implied with the title means lol.
It will work, just change the word.It won't work. The pun is the whole core essence of the song (her serving attitude); also it would harm the "melody".
"Singing" consists of two syllables whilst "Kant" was one syllable followed by a beat drop/dance beat - and the whole phrase has been repeated several times throughout the song.
They need to replace it with a short word, imo - or change the song/arrangement event further - or it will sound clumsy.
Do the wider general public know this though? Certainly from where I am the C-word is still highly offensive and used as an insult - not as something empowering.This.
The whole discussion here is bonkers to read. C*nt is first of all a female body part, and was than used as an insult to women. And there have been movements to reclaim the word for decades (similar to queer being reclaimed by the LGBTQ+ community). The expression serving c*nt is nothing else but that - using the term as something positive and fierce instead of degrading.
And this complain coming so late is ridiculous.
Either way, I think there are ways to change it that will not take away from the song. From having the audience fill in, to adding a sound effect, to maybe using her name instead (if Miriana can make that work). Conte is close enough after all. Or they could leave the word out and pretend there is something keeping her from singing it everytime, like her falling of her swiss Ball lol Given the entry is going for crazy and camp anyway, it's not as if they need to worry about the solution being elegant.
I don’t want to say your naive Cathan, but you’re coming across extremely naive if you think Kant was only used as a word for singing. That was never the intention and simply switching it to the English undoes the supposed ‘clever’ bit of songwriting Miriana and co developed.It will work, just change the word.
Ofcom would go into meltdown but nobody could do anything about itOr they will just make Miriana sing "I'm serving...." and they will project "KANT" in capitalised/big letters on screen for the audience to sing it - (showing all the ghey middle aged men in the audience mouthing that word). OMG - this whole thing will be iconic, camp and absolutely embarrassing at the same time.
Now I'm really looking forward to watching her semi final performance.