DENMARK 2013 - Emmelie de Forest - Only Teardrops
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CypriotGirl
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Mrm
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Worst? Rybak? One of the most important winners of this century? Oh good Lord3
Well my opinion, thanks for "understanding and respect".. :?
RainyWoods
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Worst? Rybak? One of the most important winners of this century? Oh good Lord
Indeed, i'm not a fan but there is no denying his win and influence on the contest was massive. And I know Mrm likes to obsess over numbers and statistics and enjoys things that chart high etc. Can't get any higher in a Eurovision context than Rybak.
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Lena? Loreen?
In my country nobody has noticed Rybak after contest, but Lena and Loreen were hits!
And I dislike Rybak completely, as singer, songwriter, person,his entry, performance and everything, i also dislike Denmark 2013..
I loved Lena, and I liked Loreen..
Why you make fuss about my comment that FOR ME it would be the worst winner since Rybak?? i wrote for me!
I don't have any rights in here it seems :?
In my country nobody has noticed Rybak after contest, but Lena and Loreen were hits!
And I dislike Rybak completely, as singer, songwriter, person,his entry, performance and everything, i also dislike Denmark 2013..
I loved Lena, and I liked Loreen..
Why you make fuss about my comment that FOR ME it would be the worst winner since Rybak?? i wrote for me!
I don't have any rights in here it seems :?
RainyWoods
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You have rights the same as everyone else. I was just using the same logic you used on me several times, using success as a reason for why you think something is better than something. I was just trying to make you see how ridiculous that logic is..
"X is better than Y because X charted in so many countries and was popular. How many countries did Y chart in hmm?".
You think Rybak is the worst Eurovision Winner in recent memory. Well I could throw numbers at you and say he was the best to try and win an argument. See what i'm saying? It's ridiculous.
FallenAngelII
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How the heck are they going to squeeze all of the entries into two one-hour shows?!
What, is there no commentary for the Danish preview shows this year? I seem to remember that either Denmark or Norway has this thing where every other year, they have a panel and every other year, they just air the preview videos without comment.
euronut
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You are actually correct. Some people on here just don't like it when you challenge common misconceptions. There is a difference between popular Eurovision winners and commercially successful Eurovision winners. Lena and Loreen were very good for the contest. Alexander Rybak was a popular winner but he hasn't done much to drive the contest forward and isn't popular amongst the European countries that I have lived. Not in comparison to Lena and Loreen who are still commerically successful artists. For now.
RainyWoods
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Thats besides the point I was making to Mrm though (which he decides to ignore and not respond to as usual, just like every single time someone writes something with a little bit of thought to him).
Mrm likes to use "My opinion is better than yours because look at the success of the artists I like. Where is the success of yours?". He's brought it up in several topics and it's about the most laughable way of sharing an opinion as possible. I couldn't give a flying toffee if artists I like are charting and none of the music I listen to charts anyway. Waaa hooooo! Yet no doubt in the near future again he'll bring up "chart success" as like some kind of holy grail of all music that is wonderful and "normal" (another word he likes to use).
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We've never had an all-danish ESC-panel, so it must be Norway you're thinking of. Back when "Inför Eurovision" was awesome we had a danish panelist as part of the nordic panel, but meh, that's all history. For the past many years DR has been running a sort of cavalcade of all entries with no commentary or charm whatsoever, and they've gone for that approach again this year...only difference this time is that both semis have been scheduled a time where viewing figures aren't exactly too high. The interest in the contest may not be incredibly high here, but DR certainly isn't helping either.
Speaking of ESC preview-shows, NRK's "Addresse Malmö" is definitely the way to go this year.
CypriotGirl
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That's what I meant too, according to his logic (in counting everything with numbers and commercial success), Rybak should have been one of his favorites not his least favorite.
He seems to apply double standards, he says that Danish song is nothing original and that it's fake etc, but on the other hand his favorite is Cascada.
CypriotGirl
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He was moaning about this long time ago too. And I don't get this "fake" thing you all use when you think a song is common or not original, with the same logic all songs are fake because there's no chance that there are no songs out there that are similar to them. With the same logic Birds is fake because it sounds like some 60s ballads and I feed you my love is fake too because it sounds like some other electropop songs. The songs don't have to come from another planet, you know...
i anixi
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Hey Cyp, I'm too excited now to buy my ticket into this fight, and about denmark too, but the fake issue has nothing to do with it being common or unoriginal. It's to do with it being an ethnic pretence, which it is. But I accept many like it that way. And nuff said about it please, cyp darling 
Edit: Anyways, originality is actually quite important for me, but that's maybe because I'm older than you and as I have consequently been listening to the same kind of thing for a considerably longer number of years, I got tired of it, while you have not
Edit: Anyways, originality is actually quite important for me, but that's maybe because I'm older than you and as I have consequently been listening to the same kind of thing for a considerably longer number of years, I got tired of it, while you have not
euronut
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I don't disagree with any of that. However, what I want most of all is for Eurovision to drive itself forward and get away from the "that sounds like a Eurovision winner" mentality. I couldn't care less if something sounded like a Eurovision entry or not. I want quality song, preferably in different languages, coming from multiple musical genres. This is one of the reasons I didn't like Rybak. His song, musically, did nothing to drive the contest forward. Lena and Loreen were musically quite different for the contest.
RainyWoods
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I agree with all that you wrote. I just want variety as well. Theres room for everything in the contest.