Current Member Roster & How to join the Waiting List

[Stargazer]

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01 Adamsburg (NSC 2 - NSC 91, NSC 177 - current)
02 Aimūlli (NSC 129 - current)
03 Bála Kunmenai (NSC 231 - current)
04 Balearica Island (NSC 42 - current)
05 Begonia (NSC 5 - NSC 48, NSC 122 - current)
06 Belvist (NSC 5 - NSC 58, NSC 125 - NSC 127, NSC 191 - current)
07 Biflovatia (NSC 108 - current)
08 Calypso (NSC 7 - current)
09 Cherniya (NSC 92 - current)
10 Comino (NSC 7 - NSC 17, NSC 27 - current)
11 Cydoni-Gibberia (NSC 20 - current)
12 Dalisska (NSC 24 - NSC 90, NSC 118 - NSC 151, NSC 201 - current)
13 Denmark of Spears (NSC 90 - NSC 218, NSC 221 - current) ◆
14 Doire (NSC 74 - current)
15 Effiland (NSC 8 - NSC 53, NSC 206 - current)
16 Elvaci (NSC 102 - NSC 217, NSC 223 - current) ◆
17 Endórë (NSC 209 - current)
18 Federal Republic of Meridia (NSC 92 - NSC 122, NSC 156 - NSC 218, NSC 230 - current)
19 Fervorosia (NSC 21 - current)
20 Fierraria (NSC 218 - current) failed to confirm NSC 234
21 Grand Duchy of Strenci (NSC 226 - current)
22 Griffin Empire (NSC 204 - current)
23 Halito (NSC 10 - current)
24 Illumia (NSC 83 - NSC 130, NSC 153 - NSC 156, NSC 219 - current)
25 Insomnéa (NSC 96 - current)
26 Kamandé (NSC 57 - NSC 74, NSC 124 - current)
27 Konthena (NSC 218 - current)
28 Kordavian Islands (NSC 109 - current)
29 Marcobia (NSC 227 - current)
30 MatiMati (NSC 154 - current)
31 Necluda (NSC 227 - current)
32 New Acadia (NSC 52 - NSC 154, NSC 211 - current)
33 New Bander State (NSC 149 - current)
34 Öösingimäed (NSC 51 - NSC 120, NSC 209 - current)
35 Orangualia (NSC 56 - current)
36 Papendink (NSC 83 - NSC 176, NSC 224 - current)
37 Perryfornia (NSC 65 - current)
38 Rahasia-Diati (NSC 148 - current)
39 Redwood Republic (NSC 177 - current)
40 Rehi Kaita (NSC 228 - current)
41 Reym-L-Dneurb (NSC 1 - NSC 52, NSC 65 - NSC 152, NSC 206 - current)
42 Roseland (NSC 56 - current)
43 Rumia (NSC 55 - current)
44 Sakuralia (NSC 122 - current)
45 Serenes (NSC 143 - current) has to skip NSC 234 ◆
46 Södermalm (NSC 216 - current)
47 Svobodnia (NSC 169 - current)
48 Szimbaya Kingdom (NSC 188 - current)
49 Tamausia & Deltannor (NSC 188 - current)
50 Tanoiro (NSC 176 - current)
51 Tcher-Racoi (NSC 203 - current)
52 Tír an Abhainn (NSC 16 - current) ◆
53 Trollheimr (NSC 105 - current)
54 Ugaly (NSC 4 - current)
55 Vylkuzeme (NSC 109 - current)
56 Waiting Iist of Shelley & Nici (NSC 51 - NSC 168, NSC 222 - current)
57 Xhuxhmaxhuxh (NSC 39 - NSC 62, NSC 119 - NSC 153, NSC 219 - current)
58 Xochimilia (NSC 219 - current)
59 Yaponesia (NSC 6 - current)
60 Zombira (NSC 10 - NSC 170, NSC 219 - current)

Last update: November 8th, 2024

Text version of the roster for copy/paste purposes

Adamsburg Aimūlli Bála Kunmenai Balearica Island Begonia Belvist Biflovatia Calypso Cherniya Comino Cydoni-Gibberia Dalisska Denmark of Spears Doire Effiland Elvaci Endórë Federal Republic of Meridia Fervorosia Fierraria Grand Duchy of Strenci Griffin Empire Halito Illumia Insomnéa Kamandé Konthena Kordavian Islands Marcobia MatiMati Necluda New Acadia New Bander State Öösingimäed Orangualia Papendink Perryfornia Rahasia-Diati Redwood Republic Rehi Kaita Reym-L-Dneurb Roseland Rumia Sakuralia Serenes Södermalm Svobodnia Szimbaya Kingdom Tamausia & Deltannor Tanoiro Tcher-Racoi Tír an Abhainn Trollheimr Ugaly Vylkuzeme Waiting Iist of Shelley & Nici Xhuxhmaxhuxh Xochimilia Yaponesia Zombira

@Schlagerman1 @Territrius @Sultana @Morty @pjelacki @Milos-BC @nofuxCZ @renzo @Yoni @spiluke @Sean @Sabrewulf238 @apasionata @doctormalisimo @Barish @Lonter @HayashiM @Gera11 @pyryniemi @Fierro @Scania @randajad @berlyda @Luki @Mozz @Veliky @Zeus @EurovisionSmile @Nicholas123 @Marcos C @Mattan @Judas @Canuck @ferret @iowacorn @Leaf @Paper7 @Splash @Veronika @Charly @MiraShadowMan @anselm @FabiESC @dogmeat @esc87fan @Karhu @Ekholmia @Rmetr0 @marc @theCONWEL @Ana Raquel @TomCherson @My Star @Stargazer @Fearnavigatr @as78 @strajker @Otto @Buranovskiy @takeru @SpZ

Clicking on a flag icon will redirect you to the respective country's official thread.
Nations that miss 2 editions in a row will be removed and replaced with the nation at the top of the Waiting List (see below).

RESOURCES

FLAGS || POTS || MAP || WIKI || DATABASE

01. Destroyer (United Kingdom of Destrion) NSC 234? WLSC 276, 277, 278
02. marduk (Vermilion) NSC 234? WLSC 276, 277, 278
03. Alevender (Rombandrums) NSC 234?
04. Kimrt (Kimmystan) WLSC 276, 277, 278
05. Aditya (Carpentaria)
06. soundofsilence (Afnia)
07. Rxllinson (Dwyforland)
08. Ewigkeit (Emsfrynt) WLSC 276, 277, 278
09. Poky (Principales di Pohovaradin) failed to vote NSC 233 WLSC 278

Last update: November 7th, 2024

Nations or members in cyan have entered NSC at least once before.


Waiting list (WL) rules:

• Voting in each final of NSC as part of the waiting list jury is compulsory.
• Any waiting list nations who fail to vote will be moved 2 places down on the list.
• Nations who fail to vote 2 finals in a row will be removed from the list.
• Under certain circumstances waiting list nations can take a break from voting in the finals if a solid reason is given. During that period of time the position of the nation on the waiting list remains frozen and it can move neither up nor down.
• Nations with 'NSC XXX' beside them will debut/return in the next contest.
• Nations with 'NSC XXX?' beside them can send a reserve entry to the next contest.

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First of all, welcome to NSC! If you have any questions regarding the contest, feel free to post them in this thread or ask one of the mods: @Stargazer, @berlyda or @Veronika.

In order to get familiar with the contest, please take a look at the RULES!

If you want to apply for a place in NSC (or if you want to return), simply send a PM to Stargazer - you'll be added to the waiting list (see above).

Please note that you are probably going to be waiting for a long time as there is a strong demand for spots on the roster. In the meantime, you may enter the Waiting List contest, vote in the semi-finals of NSC and take part in the various spin-off contests if you wish to. Don't forget that voting in the finals is compulsory.

And most importantly: Have fun!

 

[Brandt]

Strange! This is a very recent thing, which I only noticed now that you mentioned it. I swear the threads worked normally only some days ago. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Seems like the forum has an issue with all the thread URLs starting with www. so I had to remove that from every single URL on the roster. Hopefully all the threads work as they should now.

It has been like that since last summer. But it works fine now (at least for me). Thanks. ^^

 

[Stargazer]

Roster has been updated for NSC 163. Unfortunately we lost previous NSC nation Artyomka from the WL.

 

[theditz83]

Love the top 3 of the WL right now - they can all join for 163 as far as I'm concerned

 

[Himan]

Love the top 3 of the WL right now - they can all join for 163 as far as I'm concerned

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No, but can't we really take players in who are longer than a year on the waiting list and on top? I mean a whole year, that's a really long time. This is worse as Governments.

 

[Stargazer]

four xslap

No, but can't we really take players in who are longer than a year on the waiting list and on top? I mean a whole year, that's a really long time. This is worse as Governments.

A year minimum is the standard waiting time, several people had to wait even 16-18 months to get in. So if you've been waiting for a year, at least rest assured in the fact that you're slowly but surely approaching the end of your waiting. It seems a lot right now and it's a long wait (we've all been through it), but having already spent more than 4½ years on the proper roster I can definitely say it's been worth it in the end.

 

[Himan]

A year minimum is the standard waiting time, several people had to wait even 16-18 months to get in. So if you've been waiting for a year, at least rest assured in the fact that you're slowly but surely approaching the end of your waiting. It seems a lot right now and it's a long wait (we've all been through it), but having already spent more than 4½ years on the proper roster I can definitely say it's been worth it in the end.

I know, so why aren't we doing something about it? I'm not someone who just sits down and think let it go. I also see that some people are just holding on to their position and claiming to stop and than don't do it. How do you think the number 1 on the WL must feel? Do you know how we want to react, cause I want to say: Leave! I don't because I'm 'nice' and stuff, but I believe in flow, and I feel after 18 months I'm not happy to join anymore. I don't really care! I don't feel valued at all. If there was a dislike button on your post I would press it, so to say, cause it's easy to say this kind of stuff when you're 4,5 years in the roster. Oh and I know this post will be hated, because many people have waited 16-18 months, but didn't had the guts to do anything about it, well... I'm not that person, even if anybody is against me. Good night.

 

[Stargazer]

I know, so why aren't we doing something about it? I'm not someone who just sits down and think let it go. I also see that some people are just holding on to their position and claiming to stop and than don't do it. How do you think the number 1 on the WL must feel? Do you know how we want to react, cause I want to say: Leave! I don't because I'm 'nice' and stuff, but I believe in flow, and I feel after 18 months I'm not happy to join anymore. I don't really care! I don't feel valued at all. If there was a dislike button on your post I would press it, so to say, cause it's easy to say this kind of stuff when you're 4,5 years in the roster. Oh and I know this post will be hated, because many people have waited 16-18 months, but didn't had the guts to do anything about it, well... I'm not that person, even if anybody is against me. Good night.

This contest has been going on for well over a decade now, we know that keeping the roster at 60 participants is to ensure the most enjoyment and fun for those on the roster. For example, WorldVision used to be limitless in the amount of participants... it got up to more than 80 at one point, which was way too big and not fun for anyone (hence why even WV eventually had to introduce a limit to the amount of participants). Everyone who joins the WL in NSC knows they will be waiting for a very long time, if they have read the rules. How do I think the number 1 on the WL must feel? The same as all of us who were at number 1 on the WL for several editions. It really sucks when you're there, but sooner or later you will get to join. The wait will be over at some point.

You joined back in late March of this year so you've "only" been on the WL for six months at this point. The fact that you're already on number 4 tells me that your wait will probably not be as long as most people's.

 

[esc87fan]

It took me 505 days (about 17 months) to get off the waiting list and now I've been on the main roster for 3 years. I found doing WLSC really helped pass the time quickly

 

[berlyda]

I know, so why aren't we doing something about it? I'm not someone who just sits down and think let it go. I also see that some people are just holding on to their position and claiming to stop and than don't do it. How do you think the number 1 on the WL must feel? Do you know how we want to react, cause I want to say: Leave! I don't because I'm 'nice' and stuff, but I believe in flow, and I feel after 18 months I'm not happy to join anymore. I don't really care! I don't feel valued at all. If there was a dislike button on your post I would press it, so to say, cause it's easy to say this kind of stuff when you're 4,5 years in the roster. Oh and I know this post will be hated, because many people have waited 16-18 months, but didn't had the guts to do anything about it, well... I'm not that person, even if anybody is against me. Good night.

There have been many occasions over the years when people have tried to address this problem.

There were originally no semis, then there was one semi, and then we introduced the second semi. Then when NSC was getting too big, we had to cap the number of participants. Our first version of the WL was in the form of "microstates", and all the microstates would compete for a place in the semis every edition. This went pretty badly, so was abandoned after a short while and we introduced the WL. Then the WL started getting too long and so we created stricter rules for full roster nations so that inactive nations would be kicked out more quickly. Since then, there have been suggestions for further changes, which have all been debated and voted on democratically, but the status quo won out in the end. So that's where we're at now.

If you have any new suggestions, then you are welcome to make them, and if you can get enough support then we can put them to an official vote. The rules won't change otherwise.

 

[Leydan]

I'm coming up for 2 years on the WL now. I get the frustration of waiting so long, and tbh being so close to joining now and seeing people abuse the loopholes is super annoying, but that is just how it is. Everyone will get in eventually. If there was no WLSC there is no way I'd have stuck around so long.

 

[Stargazer]

I'm coming up for 2 years on the WL now. I get the frustration of waiting so long, and tbh being so close to joining now and seeing people abuse the loopholes is super annoying, but that is just how it is. Everyone will get in eventually. If there was no WLSC there is no way I'd have stuck around so long.

WLSC helps tremendously with the waiting I think, I know it did for me. And also that you can participate in all of the spin-offs as well. I see that you joined back in December 2016. Have there been missed votings on your part? Otherwise it seems like an extraordinary long time to wait.. unless you joined when the WL was at its longest?

 

[Morty]

I was only on the WL for 2 editions, but that was back in the late 30s... I've always been rooting for the WLers on this matter, but the amount of supporters needed to make a change in this contest is too much for anything big to happen. People don't like changes.

And I don't like that people take breaks all the time either, skipping every other edition. The last edition I skipped was NSC 85... What happened to the "evil dots"?

 

[theditz83]

What about allowing those at the top of the Waiting List take part in NSC as "wildcard" entrants so long as there main roster nations sitting out? This would allow them to find their groove, it would give us more complete contests in terms of entry numbers and would hopefully take away some of the frustrations felt when nations sit out editions (totally understand that life gets in the way for some ans having to take time out sometimes is essential, so I wouldn't want the contest to become a dictatorship in that sense).

Has this been discussed/considered before? Not sure how you'd want to handle it since if the country actually won, it might make hosting awkward if suddenly all main roster nations are back for the following edition

 

[Himan]

The problem with this waiting list method is not only that people have to wait, but also that there is an incentive to do what Morty has stated before, because if you leave the contest out of free will, you'll have to wait again for 1,5 years if you want to come back. So you don't want to leave. Theditz problem is easily solved, by adding a 61st player in the final for the host the next time if they don't qualify by normal means, though this will almost never happen(cause those people will almost always qualify the next time)

But the main reason I'm saying this has, like I said before nothing to do with all this reasoning, but with forum-openness for new people. I mean new people will read these rules, look at it and think it's a daunting process of getting in. Look at for instance Godric's Hollow post and see she is already waiting for 1,5 years. Than you can think no, pretty easily.

You can see this in multiple ways, do we let enthusiastic people who want to play in. Or do we keep people who don't like new people, because of too big contests in, in. I'm someone who thinks about inclusion and not exclusion. That the main reason I'm advocating for something new, but I know many people dislike me for my inclusion ideas, well I dislike them.

And if you liked the WLSC so much, why aren't you ever joining WLSC [MENTION=4597]Stargazer[/MENTION]?

 

[Stargazer]

You can see this in multiple ways, do we let enthusiastic people who want to play in. Or do we keep people who don't like new people, because of too big contests in, in. I'm someone who thinks about inclusion and not exclusion. That the main reason I'm advocating for something new, but I know many people dislike me for my inclusion ideas, well I dislike them.

And if you liked the WLSC so much, why aren't you ever joining WLSC [MENTION=4597]Stargazer[/MENTION]?

It's got nothing to do with liking or disliking new people, everyone who eventually joins the roster is more than welcome. It's only about the sheer number of people. Why would anyone dislike you for your ideas, and in return why would you dislike people for their ideas? I might have different ideas than you but that doesn't mean I dislike you.

When I was on the WL and played WLSC it was generally understood that it was a contest for WLers. NSCers could vote in it, but the participation was only for WLers. It's only recently that I've noticed that some NSCers have lingered on in WLSC, but that's a fairly new phenomenon. To me it wouldn't seem fair to also "take up space" and potentially snag a victory in WLSC as well, when I get to do that in NSC. But also, with WV, NSC and spin-offs (and not to mention all the modding) I wouldn't have time for another contest.

 

[Leydan]

WLSC helps tremendously with the waiting I think, I know it did for me. And also that you can participate in all of the spin-offs as well. I see that you joined back in December 2016. Have there been missed votings on your part? Otherwise it seems like an extraordinary long time to wait.. unless you joined when the WL was at its longest?

I missed a voting yeah, but I don't think it impacted on my place, I'd have merely traded places with Denisa. Unless I counted wrong. When I joined the WL there were 18 in WLSC (none from the main contest) with some also who didn't take part in WLSC, so it was really long. Probably just got unlucky with when I joined the list.

 

[Stargazer]

I missed a voting yeah, but I don't think it impacted on my place, I'd have merely traded places with Denisa. Unless I counted wrong. When I joined the WL there were 18 in WLSC (none from the main contest) with some also who didn't take part in WLSC, so it was really long. Probably just got unlucky with when I joined the list.

You always get bumped down two numbers when you fail to vote, so that must have happened. Which means you'd have already joined the roster by now. This happened to me as well. I failed to vote on time once and as a result Lacrea got to join in NSC 102 instead of me and I had to wait until NSC 105.

 

[CypriotGirl]

What about allowing those at the top of the Waiting List take part in NSC as "wildcard" entrants so long as there main roster nations sitting out? This would allow them to find their groove, it would give us more complete contests in terms of entry numbers and would hopefully take away some of the frustrations felt when nations sit out editions (totally understand that life gets in the way for some ans having to take time out sometimes is essential, so I wouldn't want the contest to become a dictatorship in that sense).

Has this been discussed/considered before? Not sure how you'd want to handle it since if the country actually won, it might make hosting awkward if suddenly all main roster nations are back for the following edition

I suggested this when I originally was in the WL but it was declined, and I see the reason why. What if the WL nation PQ? And it's another thing: Imagine if you taste NSC for an edition, then you have to sit out for several months until you will have the chance to do it again? This will be more frustrating. It's like you are very sick and you take a pill that makes you feel much better but then you don't have the chance to take it for a long time, if you get what I mean!

I also suggested that nations in the WL choose an entry with something like a national final, and have an entry in NSC each edition, something like Rest of the World in FSC. But I can see this not being a good idea either, because if someone has very different taste from the rest WLers and never gets his entry to become the entry of the WL, then this person will not be motivated to participate at all.

Another thing that made me angry back then was the nations that were taking a break or skip editions very often, and those who failed to vote very often as well, and their punishment was just to miss one edition. Imagine someone missing to vote in an edition, then has to sit out for one edition but vote in the final, then he sends an entry, fails to vote again etc...

The system of WL is working very well and I will just wait for the time to pass until I have the chance to join again! I did it once, I'll do it again!

 

[theditz83]

Yeah, that's the issue I could foresee [MENTION=6452]CypriotGirl[/MENTION]

Your idea about a ROTW entry is cool - perhaps each edition a different member of the WL gets to hold an NF and the whole of the WL then votes so that a) everyone can get a turn, and b) everyone has a say in the song that represents the WL. Once again though, you have the issue of PQ/winning - PQ is not such a big deal since it would just mean the ROTW entry is PQ for next edition, but who should host in the case of the WL entry winning? Unsure, but definitely think this has potential if the majority of the WL and main roster nations are keen on the idea. Further discussions required

 

[CypriotGirl]

Yeah, that's the issue I could foresee [MENTION=6452]CypriotGirl[/MENTION]

Your idea about a ROTW entry is cool - perhaps each edition a different member of the WL gets to hold an NF and the whole of the WL then votes so that a) everyone can get a turn, and b) everyone has a say in the song that represents the WL. Once again though, you have the issue of PQ/winning - PQ is not such a big deal since it would just mean the ROTW entry is PQ for next edition, but who should host in the case of the WL entry winning? Unsure, but definitely think this has potential if the majority of the WL and main roster nations are keen on the idea. Further discussions required

Hmm... This can work under some circumstances, but there are many reasons that might not let it work either! Nations that just appear and vote for a couple of editions and then disappear will make the situation for the rest of us difficult. And IMO one of the best thing that the WL is doing to those who are part of it is to prepare them for NSC. You get to vote in NSC for many editions before you eventually take part yourself, so you know how the whole thing goes, what kind of songs are successful (although this has to be irrelevant when it comes to choose an entry, because after all it's about sending songs you like, not just songs you believe will be successful), you get familiar with the whole situation and you are ready to take part as a nation when the time arrives. If a nation that just appeared a couple of editions ago gets to send an entry as part of WL, I believe it's equal to throw someone who doesn't know how to swim in the ocean. Perhaps if he does his homework before choosing an entry might help a bit, but still, I believe that it might not be a good idea after all. I take myself for example. I came back after 3 years (or more) of absence. If I had to choose an entry to send in NSC from my (veeery long) list, it would be with how NSC was back then in mind. Voting in two finals so far, made me change my thinking a lot about what kind of songs I should choose when my turn comes!