Current Member Roster & How to join the Waiting List

[Stargazer]

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01 Adamsburg (NSC 2 - NSC 91, NSC 177 - current)
02 Aimūlli (NSC 129 - current)
03 Bála Kunmenai (NSC 231 - current)
04 Balearica Island (NSC 42 - current)
05 Begonia (NSC 5 - NSC 48, NSC 122 - current)
06 Belvist (NSC 5 - NSC 58, NSC 125 - NSC 127, NSC 191 - current)
07 Biflovatia (NSC 108 - current)
08 Calypso (NSC 7 - current)
09 Cherniya (NSC 92 - current)
10 Comino (NSC 7 - NSC 17, NSC 27 - current)
11 Cydoni-Gibberia (NSC 20 - current)
12 Dalisska (NSC 24 - NSC 90, NSC 118 - NSC 151, NSC 201 - current)
13 Denmark of Spears (NSC 90 - NSC 218, NSC 221 - current) ◆
14 Doire (NSC 74 - current)
15 Effiland (NSC 8 - NSC 53, NSC 206 - current)
16 Elvaci (NSC 102 - NSC 217, NSC 223 - current) ◆
17 Endórë (NSC 209 - current)
18 Federal Republic of Meridia (NSC 92 - NSC 122, NSC 156 - NSC 218, NSC 230 - current)
19 Fervorosia (NSC 21 - current)
20 Fierraria (NSC 218 - current) failed to confirm NSC 234
21 Grand Duchy of Strenci (NSC 226 - current)
22 Griffin Empire (NSC 204 - current)
23 Halito (NSC 10 - current)
24 Illumia (NSC 83 - NSC 130, NSC 153 - NSC 156, NSC 219 - current)
25 Insomnéa (NSC 96 - current)
26 Kamandé (NSC 57 - NSC 74, NSC 124 - current)
27 Konthena (NSC 218 - current)
28 Kordavian Islands (NSC 109 - current)
29 Marcobia (NSC 227 - current)
30 MatiMati (NSC 154 - current)
31 Necluda (NSC 227 - current)
32 New Acadia (NSC 52 - NSC 154, NSC 211 - current)
33 New Bander State (NSC 149 - current)
34 Öösingimäed (NSC 51 - NSC 120, NSC 209 - current)
35 Orangualia (NSC 56 - current)
36 Papendink (NSC 83 - NSC 176, NSC 224 - current)
37 Perryfornia (NSC 65 - current)
38 Rahasia-Diati (NSC 148 - current)
39 Redwood Republic (NSC 177 - current)
40 Rehi Kaita (NSC 228 - current)
41 Reym-L-Dneurb (NSC 1 - NSC 52, NSC 65 - NSC 152, NSC 206 - current)
42 Roseland (NSC 56 - current)
43 Rumia (NSC 55 - current)
44 Sakuralia (NSC 122 - current)
45 Serenes (NSC 143 - current) has to skip NSC 234 ◆
46 Södermalm (NSC 216 - current)
47 Svobodnia (NSC 169 - current)
48 Szimbaya Kingdom (NSC 188 - current)
49 Tamausia & Deltannor (NSC 188 - current)
50 Tanoiro (NSC 176 - current)
51 Tcher-Racoi (NSC 203 - current)
52 Tír an Abhainn (NSC 16 - current) ◆
53 Trollheimr (NSC 105 - current)
54 Ugaly (NSC 4 - current)
55 Vylkuzeme (NSC 109 - current)
56 Waiting Iist of Shelley & Nici (NSC 51 - NSC 168, NSC 222 - current)
57 Xhuxhmaxhuxh (NSC 39 - NSC 62, NSC 119 - NSC 153, NSC 219 - current)
58 Xochimilia (NSC 219 - current)
59 Yaponesia (NSC 6 - current)
60 Zombira (NSC 10 - NSC 170, NSC 219 - current)

Last update: November 8th, 2024

Text version of the roster for copy/paste purposes

Adamsburg Aimūlli Bála Kunmenai Balearica Island Begonia Belvist Biflovatia Calypso Cherniya Comino Cydoni-Gibberia Dalisska Denmark of Spears Doire Effiland Elvaci Endórë Federal Republic of Meridia Fervorosia Fierraria Grand Duchy of Strenci Griffin Empire Halito Illumia Insomnéa Kamandé Konthena Kordavian Islands Marcobia MatiMati Necluda New Acadia New Bander State Öösingimäed Orangualia Papendink Perryfornia Rahasia-Diati Redwood Republic Rehi Kaita Reym-L-Dneurb Roseland Rumia Sakuralia Serenes Södermalm Svobodnia Szimbaya Kingdom Tamausia & Deltannor Tanoiro Tcher-Racoi Tír an Abhainn Trollheimr Ugaly Vylkuzeme Waiting Iist of Shelley & Nici Xhuxhmaxhuxh Xochimilia Yaponesia Zombira

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Clicking on a flag icon will redirect you to the respective country's official thread.
Nations that miss 2 editions in a row will be removed and replaced with the nation at the top of the Waiting List (see below).

RESOURCES

FLAGS || POTS || MAP || WIKI || DATABASE

01. Destroyer (United Kingdom of Destrion) NSC 234? WLSC 276, 277, 278
02. marduk (Vermilion) NSC 234? WLSC 276, 277, 278
03. Alevender (Rombandrums) NSC 234?
04. Kimrt (Kimmystan) WLSC 276, 277, 278
05. Aditya (Carpentaria)
06. soundofsilence (Afnia)
07. Rxllinson (Dwyforland)
08. Ewigkeit (Emsfrynt) WLSC 276, 277, 278
09. Poky (Principales di Pohovaradin) failed to vote NSC 233 WLSC 278

Last update: November 7th, 2024

Nations or members in cyan have entered NSC at least once before.


Waiting list (WL) rules:

• Voting in each final of NSC as part of the waiting list jury is compulsory.
• Any waiting list nations who fail to vote will be moved 2 places down on the list.
• Nations who fail to vote 2 finals in a row will be removed from the list.
• Under certain circumstances waiting list nations can take a break from voting in the finals if a solid reason is given. During that period of time the position of the nation on the waiting list remains frozen and it can move neither up nor down.
• Nations with 'NSC XXX' beside them will debut/return in the next contest.
• Nations with 'NSC XXX?' beside them can send a reserve entry to the next contest.

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First of all, welcome to NSC! If you have any questions regarding the contest, feel free to post them in this thread or ask one of the mods: @Stargazer, @berlyda or @Veronika.

In order to get familiar with the contest, please take a look at the RULES!

If you want to apply for a place in NSC (or if you want to return), simply send a PM to Stargazer - you'll be added to the waiting list (see above).

Please note that you are probably going to be waiting for a long time as there is a strong demand for spots on the roster. In the meantime, you may enter the Waiting List contest, vote in the semi-finals of NSC and take part in the various spin-off contests if you wish to. Don't forget that voting in the finals is compulsory.

And most importantly: Have fun!

 

[Morty]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

I've said it before, and I will say it again. And again.

I don't want to make it harder to join the WL, because that won't solve anything. What we need, is a bigger roster. I don't really care whether it's done a few nations at a time, or if we just let a whole bunch in all at once. This contest is a lot bigger (and more popular) now than when it all started, and it's also a lot more popular than when I joined. I didn't have a problem with the WL when I joined, because I was only on it for about 3-4 editions.

I also think a part of the problem here is certain roster nations, that refuse to vote yes on any proposed changes. The way things work now, we will never get any changes here, because there will always be someone who's against it. And I find that selfish, if I'm gonna be honest...

 

[doctormalisimo]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

My suggestion would be: If someone fails to vote let's say 5 times in total (counting one time within an edition, so failing to vote in a semi and in a final of an edition would count as one) without a good excuse, then they are out of the roster.

if that were the case, someone who failed to vote a lot in the past, but votes all the time now, would be automatically kicked off.

 

[AdelAdel]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

if that were the case, someone who failed to vote a lot in the past, but votes all the time now, would be automatically kicked off.

No, of course not. The rule would only be valid for those who failed to vote after the rule is implemented.

 

[ClassifiedCat]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

I don't know if it's harsh or not but here are 2 suggestions

1) If you don't vote in every edition, you are out, unless you have a really good excuse.
2) All the non-voters move under the last person on the WL that did vote.

It's not going to shorten the wait, but it will shorting the Waiting List.

Um...

 

[doctormalisimo]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

I don't know if it's harsh or not but here are 2 suggestions

1) If you don't vote in every edition, you are out, unless you have a really good excuse.
2) All the non-voters move under the last person on the WL that did vote.

It's not going to shorten the wait, but it will shorting the Waiting List.

1) What defines a 'really good excuse'? How would be know if people are being honest? We cant expect someone to forward us their grandmother's death certificate.
2) This seems doable, but it would be inconsistent. Someone at the top of the WL who has a minor slip of judgement could find themselves 10th.

 

[ClassifiedCat]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

1) What defines a 'really good excuse'? How would be know if people are being honest? We cant expect someone to forward us their grandmother's death certificate.
2) This seems doable, but it would be inconsistent. Someone at the top of the WL who has a minor slip of judgement could find themselves 10th.

1) You could tell by their actions. Liam should be out of NSC (nothing wrong to you, I think it's Liam), Kostanovia anyway. However he had a really good excuse and was allowed to stay.
2) Yes, it could be, but if you don't have the time to vote, you shouldn't be in NSC, unless you have 1)

 

[doctormalisimo]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

Don't get me wrong : I like NSC. I've taken part before, and I play because I can discover new songs and music genres that way. But when I read « dedication to the contest », I go nuts. Especially for the waiting list members... « If you're spending a year and a half in the list, and you're still there after that, you'll show your true devotion to the contest ».
What kind of sect is that? Come on... NSC is a Youtube battle with some Photoshop. Still, with a nice community of people! With that in mind, drop the restrictions and let's just have fun with music!

There's no need for a 'committee' because the NSC rules have stood the test of time (over 7 years) and everybody is happy with most rules. And the "mob's opinion" is necessary for any rule changes anyway; people like the rules the way they are now, which is why we're in this whole predicament in the first place. You can't blame people for enjoying rules that have worked well for years. NSC is supposed to be fun. The thing is though, listening to songs is only fun up until a point. 60 songs is manageable, if we let everyone on the WL into the roster at once, we'd have around 90 songs, which isnt going to be fun to listen to. NSC isnt supposed to be some secret society. In an ideal world, the number of roster places = the number of people who want to play. The reality is though that there's just not enough room. A compromise has to be made between having fun and having a viable, lively contest. I'm not sure if anyone disagrees with the very concept of a waiting list, but the fact that it has gotten so big and it's taking people years to make it to NSC is horrible, but no one so far has come up with the golden solution to it all. The ideas in that thread in the private forum are good, and I think a version of those ideas will be the way forward, but for now, all we can do is critically evaluate all the proposals people suggest.
As a side-note, there are plenty of other Youtube battles with some Photoshop - that's not what makes NSC unique and interesting.

 

[doctormalisimo]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

1) You could tell by their actions. Liam should be out of NSC (nothing wrong to you, I think it's Liam), Kostanovia anyway. However he had a really good excuse and was allowed to stay.
2) Yes, it could be, but if you don't have the time to vote, you shouldn't be in NSC, unless you have 1)

1) What actions? It's hard to tell if someone's being sarcastic on the internet, it would be even harder to tell if they're lying.
2) Yup, very right, people should only be in NSC if they have the time to vote. But slips do happen. You thought the deadline was later, you got called into work at the last minute on the day of the deadline, you got given a 24 hour assignment at uni, you have a headache so probably shouldnt be listening to certain types of music, your internet is down for whatever reason, you get hit by a bus and the list goes on. It's easy enough to say that you have time to vote in NSC, but if you can predict the future, you're wasting your abilities with us here...

 

[ClassifiedCat]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

I was just talking with anselm and we though this.

You have to vote in 1 semi + the final (the deadline's a week for both so plenty of time to vote), and if you miss 2 in 5 voting's you're out.

 

[Canuck]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

But what would be the point of making a poll that only a minority want? I could well open a thread now with a poll about anything anyone here has mentioned and it would get shot down immediately. I could make a poll called "Do you want there to be changes to the way the roster is handled?" and that would get a lot of yeses, but that's far too vague for it to mean anything. I dont think its fair to call out the mods saying that they're/we're not doing anything - we've got nothing to work with. We're certainly as hell not going to implement things only we want, but we're also not going to implement things only a small minority want. You want the mods to take initiative? Why dont you start by taking initiative and coming up with a solution that most people can be happy with.

Sorry for jumping back to an old post, but why do we poll on single ideas at a time? If there's lots of people who say 'yes, roster management needs to change' then shouldn't the poll be more directed towards "which ideas are worth looking more into?"

There's clearly a lot of ideas and everyone thinks theirs are the best. Can't we instead pool together a bunch of ideas and ask our community "what ones do you think are worthwhile to consider that have been proposed, if any?" It'll start getting rid of low-quality ideas and start showing what the community really is leaning towards. Because honestly, having a bunch of different conversations at random times about a new solution clearly isn't helping much.

 

[Romeo]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

The last time I said this someone replied with "posts like this should be deleted", but I will say it again..

Would the best option not be to have the top few from the WLSC go into NSC.. there would only be a few songs more in NSC and it would give the WLSC something to aim for

 

[Luki]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

Sorry for jumping back to an old post, but why do we poll on single ideas at a time? If there's lots of people who say 'yes, roster management needs to change' then shouldn't the poll be more directed towards "which ideas are worth looking more into?"

There's clearly a lot of ideas and everyone thinks theirs are the best. Can't we instead pool together a bunch of ideas and ask our community "what ones do you think are worthwhile to consider that have been proposed, if any?" It'll start getting rid of low-quality ideas and start showing what the community really is leaning towards. Because honestly, having a bunch of different conversations at random times about a new solution clearly isn't helping much.

Exactly, contact every active NSCer and WLer and ask them for ideas. After that make a survey.

 

[Luki]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

The last time I said this someone replied with "posts like this should be deleted", but I will say it again..

Would the best option not be to have the top few from the WLSC go into NSC.. there would only be a few songs more in NSC and it would give the WLSC something to aim for

No, because that would prevent WLers from sending used NSC entries, which isn't a big deal but the idea of WLSC wasn't to be like Microstates Qualification, but as a way of giving the ones that are waiting some sort of experience to make their wait easier and better.

 

[Romeo]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

Should participating in WLSC be compulsory then?

Like WLSC60 had 18 nations, but 29 on the WL

If you miss an edition you drop down?

 

[Canuck]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

I said it in the convo earlier: if you 'fall off the WL' then you shouldn't be allowed to rejoin it for a certain amount of time. Just takes up space.

My thoughts: You really couldn't vote in two editions in a row? Try again when you have more time in 6 months.

 

[Yoni]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

Why force people to participate in a contest they didn't sign up to*?

* Though to be frank I'm pretty sure several people joined the wl with no point whatsoever to join nsc xD

 

[doctormalisimo]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

Should participating in WLSC be compulsory then?

Like WLSC60 had 18 nations, but 29 on the WL

If you miss an edition you drop down?

WLSC is independent of NSC. Sometimes nations in WLSC never even apply for the WL...

 

[EurovisionSmile]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

Hmm I understand, I was planning on starting mp3 database for NSC, but not atm. Maybe next edition. I do think it will make it easier not only for you but many others, at the same time people will be able to download whichever song they want without putting much effort in searching for it. I hope mods agree with it, I'm willing to completely take responsability for it.

that would make things much easier for me to take part! Would be awesome, Luka!

 

[berlyda]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

Every organization is run by a commitee, or some sort of small regroupment, that decides for its members, based on their recommandations. Otherwise, it's impossible to manage.

This is exactly what NSC needs. There are ideas and opinions constantly flying around everywhere, with no real way to organise them. As doctormalisimo said, it isn't as simple as "figuring out the options and making a poll". The poll would either be far too generic or ridiculously specific. As things are at the moment, there is absolutely no structure when it comes to changes in the contest, and as such it is impossible to get anything done.

Most people (please correct me if I'm wrong) would be content with placing control in the hands of a few competent NSCers who are trusted to make decisions for the good of the contest as a whole, and furthermore, we even have a system screaming out to be used in this manner - the NSC mods, of course. Yes, the mods are there to do all the administrative work, but unless things have changed since I was a mod, they do actually have some power over rules changes too. There is no reason why this shouldn't be cranked up so that the mods can work away in the background making sure everything goes smoothly while the rest of the community enjoys the results. Of course it would still be possible to make suggestions/complaints; in fact there should really be some sort of dedicated feedback thread already.

EDIT: As an afterthought, perhaps there should also be a "WL mod" in this committee? It's got to the point where many WL members are just as active in the community as fully-fledged NSCers, if not more so, and many have as much as a year's worth of experience in the contest. It would only make sense for there to be a mod who is also a WL member, to ensure that the committee acts in the interest of WLers as well as NSCers.

 

[Le Bruit]

Re: Current Member Roster & How to join the waiting list

I would be more than pleased to hand NSC to some valuable members, elected by the community, and known for their fairness, dedication and open-mindness. They would take recommandations from the community of players and decide what's best for the game. A committee of 5 to 10 people that can communicate easily between each other is a sure way to save time and energy.