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FilipFromSweden

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

A few impressions:

1) I am satisfied with Sweden winning, as the song was in my top5 this year and the performance was visually great.

2) So sad that Germany was left with 0 points, as I think it was one of the better and more memorable performances of the night.

3) The way that the audience in the arena acted during the voting was completely embarrassing. If they consider themselves to be fans of Eurovision I hope they are ashamed.

Are you speaking about them boo-ing for Russia? Or when the arena started to boil and people screaming for Sweden? :D

I don't know if I agree or not on the Russia part. Had I been there I would've been scared for Russia winning. World's most gay friendly song contest in Russia? No thank you
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Well this is interesting!

I am still against the juries, but it's hard to not be biased when your own country has just won. Never would've I thought juries killed Italy? Italy is like the jury country! In all honesty this win doesn't feel any worse because of this, I am just as proud because I truly think Sweden deserved to win. I will always remember last night, I was so filled with happiness and joy and I still am.

And no, this is not a scandal. This is how it works, the juries are entitled to 50% of all the votes, results like these are fully acceptable. The juries weren't brought in to support the televoting result. One could argue that it's not fair that 200 '' professional '' jurymembers decided the winner over millions of people voting, but in 2011 Sweden was snatched of the victory aswell by the juries and won the televote xshrug

Sweden didn't win televote in 2011, Azerbaijan did with 223 points, followed by Sweden's 221 points. So it was a really close call, but as far as I can recall last night was the first time in 50/50 voting that televoting's winner wasn't the overall winner.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Sweden didn't win televote in 2011, Azerbaijan did with 223 points, followed by Sweden's 221 points. So it was a really close call, but as far as I can recall last night was the first time in 50/50 voting that televoting's winner wasn't the overall winner.

But keep in mind that if you discount the countries that only use juries, Sweden won the televote. EBU often counts in the 100% jury countries in televoting results
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

But keep in mind that if you discount the countries that only use juries, Sweden won the televote. EBU often counts in the 100% jury countries in televoting results

Oh yeah I didn't think of that actually. That's kind of stupid to count 100% juries into televoting since it's the exact opposite :D Ohh EBU and their mess
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

But of course, we have jury-related drama yet again xbored In case some of you guys haven't noticed, since last year, the juries helped to lower the friendly and diaspora voting. My fellow citizens might argue that the juries "screwed" Poland again. However, if you look at the split results, you'd notice that Poland received top notes from countries with a major Polish diaspora. People who vote just to support a country, not a song, a country are shameless. What's worse, even our commentator advises Poles from other countries to "support their country". This is a song contest, not a "support your country if you live abroad contest". But of course, Polish people abroad are not the only ones who do this, we also have Romanians in Spain, ex-Yu citizens in Switzerland, and Turks in almost all western countries, just to name a few examples. Not to mention the Greece-Cyprus relationship, because those two groups of people are technically one and the same. Juries helped to lower (not prevent, I think that preventing this completely is not possible in this contest) these occurrences, and that's why I'm all for the juries.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

First of all: Congratulation to Sweden // Grattis till Sverige !

To me, it is a worthy winner. I have voted for Sweden a couple of times yesterday (I was on the fence because I also liked Russia & Italy very much but I decided to vote for only one of the favourites because it didn't make sense to me to push all three as none of my votes were effecting anything then).

I was a bit disappointed with Germany ending last because I knew it would get lost between all those powerful ballads and catchy pop songs, but I didn't expect it to go unsung (almost literally :p). But well - that's Eurovision. And I am not ashamed of Germany's entry this year like I have been the past years. To me it was a good song and a decent performance by lovely Ann Sophie.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Concerning the juries: apart from some OBVIOUS misuse of power (eg Azerbaijan, Armenia) they did basically a good job. In Germany they prevented the diaspora voting.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

The whole of Europe has chosen Italy as the winning song, 200 people the same old song of Swedish plastic!
the people has decided that Italy won!




1st – Italy – 366
2nd – Russia – 286
3rd – Sweden – 272
4th – Belgium – 190
5th – Estonia – 144
6th – Australia – 124
7th – Israel – 102
8th – Albania – 93
9th – Latvia – 88
10th – Serbia – 86

jury:

Sweden 353
Latvia 249
Russia 234
Australia 224
Belgium 186
Italy 171 ———————-OMG! Crazy
Norway 163
Israel 77
Cyprus 63
Georgia 62
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

The whole of Europe has chosen Italy as the winning song, 200 people the same old song of Swedish plastic!
the people has decided that Italy won!




1st – Italy – 366
2nd – Russia – 286
3rd – Sweden – 272
4th – Belgium – 190
5th – Estonia – 144
6th – Australia – 124
7th – Israel – 102
8th – Albania – 93
9th – Latvia – 88
10th – Serbia – 86

jury:

Sweden 353
Latvia 249
Russia 234
Australia 224
Belgium 186
Italy 171 ———————-OMG! Crazy
Norway 163
Israel 77
Cyprus 63
Georgia 62

Oh, cmn, you know why jury did that. Italy had a great song, but Sweden was a bigger threat to Russia. This contest was not about how to win, but about how to lose! I repeat, both italy and Russia are better than Sweden in so many ways!
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Is it :pl:'s destiny to receive 0-2 points from e.g. UK? No matter what we send, juries will always put us lower, because they have Polish diaspora in mind.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

I know that people always vote the best and for the best. F*ck the jury!:oops:
 

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Oh, cmn, you know why jury did that. Italy had a great song, but Sweden was a bigger threat to Russia. This contest was not about how to win, but about how to lose! I repeat, both italy and Russia are better than Sweden in so many ways!


I do agree !!
 

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I hope that Sweden's victory teaches the broadcasters that uptempo songs can and usually do win unless the entry is a force of lyricism, talent, and personality like "Rise Like a Phoenix" or a force of money like "Running Scared," Italy doing so well teaches them that songs in non-English languages can do quite well, Belgium and Latvia's strong placings show that risky entries will be rewarded, and that Serbia, Israel, Slovenia, and Georgia doing well is proof that typical Eurovision fare is far from dead, but most of all, I hope that Russia coming second teaches the broadcasters nothing.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

You voted 42 times? Ö

Technically not all 42 votes were confirmed! Kept trying but kept getting sent back "service unavailable" texts and then apparently I voted too late even though the votes had been sent during the 15 minute voting time.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Italy is the real winner, stop!
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Italy's entry was old-fashioned, that's why they didn't do so well with the juries, whereas Latvia who came second with the juries was very modern (similar to FKA twigs).
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Are you speaking about them boo-ing for Russia? Or when the arena started to boil and people screaming for Sweden? :D

I don't know if I agree or not on the Russia part. Had I been there I would've been scared for Russia winning. World's most gay friendly song contest in Russia? No thank you

I am talking about the booing part. Also them cheering and screaming whenever Russia was announced to have received 1-7 points and Sweden and Italy weren't on that list. It's like they weren't even cheering for the other 2 countries, but were cheering against Russia instead.
 

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Re: Live from Vienna - EUROVISION 2015 TONIGHT

Hello everyone, been on this forum a while, reading mostly but thought I'd give my 10c on last night's show.

As a swede this win is bittersweet, not really deserved in my opinion. Måns is an excellent singer and had a great muppet show on stage but the song is missing something, just like Azerbaijan in 2011. Italy had equally great voices but perhaps losing due to the fact of using an old song, however, great songs should be able to stand the test of time.

What really struck me as strange is why the jury vote is so heavy, 30% should be more than enough to cancel out the diaspora voting and acts like Dancing Lasha Tumbai. The San Remo solution with 30% jury power seems like the next step for Eurovision.

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