Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma)

[A-lister]

I'm not sure if this had its own thread? But I think it deserves one actually

Background and info

Jugovizija was the ex-Yugoslav selection method for Eurovision (1961-1991), a sort of "mini-Eurovision" where the local broadcasters of the then republics of Federal Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia (Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia & Herzegovina, Serbia, Montenegro, Macedonia), where represented by entries competing against each other.

Jugovizija continued one more year and was in 1992 used as a selection method for then Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. 1993-, as a reaction to the Yugoslav wars, Serbia was banned from international events (like ESC), while the other ex- Yugoslav republics continued to take part in Eurovision as now independent states.

When Serbia & Montenegro returned to Eurovision in 2004, the successor of Jugovizia "Evropesma" was established (one year after the Serbian local "Beovizija" was established), and used as the selection method for ESC. The top entries from the local selections "Beovizija" and "Montevizija" (Montenegro) competed in the united "Evropesma" final.

After a scandalous Evropesma in 2006, Serbia & Montenegro withdrew from Eurovision that same year. After the breakup of Serbia & Montenegro, Beovizija continued to be the selection method for Serbia (until 2009).

 

[A-lister]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Different sources state different information on what countries/broadcasters that actually won Jugovizija by year (and thereafter went on to represent whole Yugoslavia in Eurovision.)

If someone has a reliable source, I would be happy for that source, so we can add a complete list of all the Yugoslavian ESC entries (with info on what country within Yugoslavia that entry "belonged" to).

 

[Scooby]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Actually on Jugovizija participadet TV studios from 8 biggest Yugoslav cities: TV Belgrade, TV Novi Sad and TV Priština from Serbia, TV Skopje, TV Sarajevo, TV Podgorica (Then TV Titograd), TV Zagreb and TV Ljubljana.

These are all Yugoslav songs on ESC from 1961 to 1992. (year, representative, song title, TV studio from... and final placement).
1961. Ljiljana Petrović "Neke davne zvezde" Ljubljana (8)
1962. Lola Novaković Ne pali svetla u sumrak Ljubljana (4)
1963. Vice Vukov Brodovi Zagreb (11)
1964. Sabahudin Kurt Život je sklopio krug Sarajevo (13) (Nul points)
1965. Vice Vukov Čežnja Sarajevo (12)
1966. Berta Ambrož Brez Besed Ljubljana (7)
1967. Lado Leskovar Vse rože sveta Ljubljana (8)
1968. Dubrovački trubaduri Jedan dan Zagreb (7)
1969. Ivan & 3M Pozdrav svijetu Zagreb (13)
1970. Eva Sršen Pridi, dala ti bom cvet Ljubljana (11)
1971. Krunoslav Slabinac Tvoj diječak je tužan Zagreb (14)
1972. Tereza Kesovija Muzika i ti Zagreb (9)
1973. Zdravko Čolić Gori vatra Sarajevo (15)
1974. Korni grupa Moja generacija Beograd (12)
1975. Pepel in kri Dan ljubezni Ljubljana (13)
1976. Ambasadori Ne mogu skriti svoju bol Sarajevo (17)
1981. Sead Memić-Vajta Lejla Sarajevo (15)
1982. Aska Halo, halo Beograd (14)
1983. Danijel Popović Džuli Titograd (4)
1984. Izolda Barudžija & Vlado Kalember Ćao Amore Titograd (18)
1986. Doris Dragović Željo moja Zagreb (11)
1987. Novi fosili Ja sam za ples Zagreb (4)
1988. Srebrna krila Mangup Zagreb (6)
1989. Riva Rock me baby Zagreb (1)
1990. Tajči Hajde da ludujemo Zagreb (7)
1991. Baby Doll Brazil Beograd (21)
1992. Extra Nena Ljubim te pesmama Beograd (13)

Source is http://escserbia.com/istorija/mi-na-evroviziji/

 

[A-lister]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Thanks for adding the others aswell

So is this list correct? Because I have seen different sources and it seems they differ. I mean the entries are the same, but they differ in what broadcaster it was though.

Anyways thanx for the list!

 

[Scooby]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

One my friend who writes on that cite is Eurovision fanatic and for shure that's a right list of participants, and list of broadcasters is correct too.

Zagreb won 10 times, Ljubljana 6, Sarajevo 5, Belgrade 4 and Podgorica 2 times.

 

[A-lister]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

One my friend who writes on that cite is Eurovision fanatic and for shure that's a right list of participants, and list of broadcasters is correct too.

Zagreb won 10 times, Ljubljana 6, Sarajevo 5, Belgrade 4 and Podgorica 2 times.

I see!

Oh but I trust you, it's just that I wasn't sure because I've seen different sources. But this seems correct.

 

[sannerz]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Zdravko Colic should have definitely gotten a much higher place than 15th.

I feel like Yugoslavia was severely underrated in its first two decades of participation.... and then Europe fell in love with Yugoslav rock.

 

[Sabiondo]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Actually on Jugovizija participadet TV studios from 8 biggest Yugoslav cities: TV Belgrade, TV Novi Sad and TV Priština from Serbia, TV Skopje, TV Sarajevo, TV Podgorica (Then TV Titograd), TV Zagreb and TV Ljubljana.

The website forgot add that the TV Pristina was competing here too

 

[Sabiondo]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

I feel like Yugoslavia was severely underrated in its first two decades of participation.... and then Europe fell in love with Yugoslav rock.

Because the jury for that was just fall in love with Westen entries, UK & Ireland as well....They was ignore hideously to Yugoslavia, Turkey, Greece and early of 90s at mostly countries of the former Iron Curtain entries.

Fortunately, with the introduction of televoting, the elimination of the jury & freedom of language late in the 90s, they got revenge against the West :twisted:

 

[Milos-BC]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Though, it is interesting that some of those acts represented the studios which were not studios from their native countries.

For example Ljiljana Petrovic in 1961. She is a Serbian singer (from Novi Sad), the song was written (the lyrics) by one of the biggest Serbian and also Yugoslavian poets Miroslav Mika Antic, but yet she represented TV Ljubljana. But I guess that was the case because the composer (Joza Privsek) was Slovenian.

Anyway, I do like most of the Yugoslavian entries on ESC, and I agree that some were very underrated, but I like the fact that even despite some of them got very low results (like "Brazil" in 1991), they are remembered and are quite popular nowadays.

 

[A-lister]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Though, it is interesting that some of those acts represented the studios which were not studios from their native countries.

Yeah, I noticed this too! Maybe that's why some sources state different countries for the same entries?

But on the other hand even to this day we had Croats representing Bosnia, Bosnian-Serbs representing Bosnia and maybe some other examples aswell?

 

[A-lister]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Because the jury for that was just fall in love with Westen entries, UK & Ireland as well....They was ignore hideously to Yugoslavia, Turkey, Greece and early of 90s at mostly countries of the former Iron Curtain entries.

Fortunately, with the introduction of televoting, the elimination of the jury & freedom of language late in the 90s, they got revenge against the West :twisted:

Oh yes, and now the juries are back in the same patterns! They always ignored "the local/interesting", and they always preferred songs in English even when there was a language rule.

I don't think they changed much. It's almost like they have the same juries as back then haha.

 

[sannerz]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Because the jury for that was just fall in love with Westen entries, UK & Ireland as well....They was ignore hideously to Yugoslavia, Turkey, Greece and early of 90s at mostly countries of the former Iron Curtain entries.

Fortunately, with the introduction of televoting, the elimination of the jury & freedom of language late in the 90s, they got revenge against the West :twisted:

That doesn't make any sense. Juries were most definitely still in place in the 80's, when Yugoslavia began to consistently place in the top 10, or near it. The reason most entries were underrated from the East, was because their music scenes were still expanding slowly, and the compositions usually weren't as refined or professional sounding as in the West. I love Zdravko Colic, and think he should have gotten higher than 15th, but the composition itself was not that good, it was just his voice that was great. The jury liked ground-breaking music, not old-fashioned folk ballads, which is what many of these Eastern countries were sending.

But this isn't a thread about the juries.

I'd love to see a list of all the participants in Jugovizija, because I think someone said Brena and lots of other famous artists participated but never got a chance to represent.

Yeah, I noticed this too! Maybe that's why some sources state different countries for the same entries?

But on the other hand even to this day we had Croats representing Bosnia, Bosnian-Serbs representing Bosnia and maybe some other examples aswell?

It was a different time back then. Those type of things didn't really matter to most people.

 

[Milos-BC]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Yeah, it's correct. Different times, and it didn't really matter, although it is interesting to note And yeah it happens nowadays as well (like with Marija Sestic in 2007).

 

[sannerz]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

Yeah, it's correct. Different times, and it didn't really matter, although it is interesting to note And yeah it happens nowadays as well (like with Marija Sestic in 2007).

Yep, and Feminnem in 2005.

 

[Milos-BC]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

^^ Oh yeah, how could I forget about them

 

[Scooby]

Re: Yugoslavia & Serbia/Montenegro in Eurovision (a thread about Jugovizija/Evropesma

I'd love to see a list of all the participants in Jugovizija, because I think someone said Brena and lots of other famous artists participated but never got a chance to represent.

Lepa Brena & Slatki greh participated in 1983 (I think) with song "Sitnije Cile sitnije", and she finished only 7th that year. They participadet in 86 too with song "Miki"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfosKXnAK_k

And for me the biggest injustice was fail to Dado Topić & Slađana Milošević on Jugovizija '84 "Ti si princeza" (6th place :shock: ). That song is almost today one of the big music hits ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST1qFjosKOU

In '82 Maja Odžaklijevska was only second with one great song "Julija"

 

[evilperson]

This was a great entry and quite underrated considering everything else that year sucked big time:

 

[Milos-BC]

^^ I agree.

This was one of my favorite songs that we sent in the pre-Serbia (and Montenegro) era. The song was a huge hit over here, but on ESC it didn't score too well.

Ekstra Nena is, imo, one of the best singers in .

 

[CypriotGirl]

My favorite song of is by far 1990! Hajde Da Ludujemo!!

So much better than the one of 1989 that won!