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Samb

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...Financial crisis or EBU spin?

First off, apologies if this has been posted before and I simply can't find the appropriate thread. But this week newspapers including the Guardian have been running this particular story of withdrawals from the contest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-radio/ ... -recession) - as we know, Czech Republic, Andorra and Montenegro have all suspended their exploits into the contest, and Hungary did not enter this year. Eurovision executive superviser Svante Stockselius had this to say:

Svante said:
Of course the economic crisis is affecting us, we have fewer countries competing this year and they all withdrew for the same reason – budget cuts

Anyone who reads Eurovision blogs and fansites will come across responses to this, a lot of them questioning if this was really the motive behind withdrawal. Indeed, Iceland and Geece have been severely hit by difficulties, yet have produced songs that potentially could win. Eurovision fansite nul-points.net commented thus:

Nul Points said:
As the combined media hacks descend on Oslo (that's real journos and not fanboys who got accreditation from Macedonia or Cyprus by sleeping with someone) the European Broadcasting Union have planted a story in case anyone does the maths and enquires about the reduction in competing countries this year. "It is all down to the economic downturn" says EBU supremo Svante Stockselius. He omits to mention of course that three of the four countries pulling out this year, Andorra, the Czech Republic and Montenegro pulled out because after multiple attempts to qualify for the Eurovision final they were constantly knocked back as they had no friendly votes. While Turkey, Greece, Armenia and various ex-Soviet territories would make it any year with three minutes of a cat farting, those countries less blessed with friends are still massively disadvantaged, and it is at the very best disingenuous that the EBU prefer to spin another story.

However, there is also other reasons involve perhaps. Is it merely that these countries have failed to qualify, or are we seeing another repeat of Italy and Austria? The Czechs are the stongest example here. Whereas many countries are still gripped at least once a year by Eurovision interest, this appears to have always passed them by. Is this because there is no reasonable expectation of qualifying? But wait - Belgium has never wathered from its love of the contest despite poor runnings since 2004. Italy came in strong in with a very accomplished song, yet withdrew indefinitely from the next year!

So what do you make of all this? Ae we going to see a potential trend of withdrawing countries in the next few years, due to the current running of the contest? Is economics really the issue here?
 

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Well, maybe they think that if they have no chance of qualifying, then this money could be spent for something more useful. Some people in Estonia are saying this too and yet last year showed that we are able to qualify with a decent song (and with 100% televoting no less). They might just not see any reason to participate especially if there not any public interest. But then again, every country has it's own views and possible reasons to withdraw.
 

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I liked Estonias song last year, was very good. But this year, seemed like a giant step back, and I personally didn't rate it. But wouldn't want to see Estonia withdraw, as we all know that they can qualify, just need that good song (obviously :))
 

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Estonia keeps on sending quirky songs. Keep up the good job, Estonia, even if you don't always make it to the final. You really should have qualified this year. And never ever think of withdrawing. I've liked all of Estonia's entries besides that dreadful thing that won and "Partners in Crime".
 

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I didn't have anything against the song that won, definitely better than Latvia next year in my opinion. Although Estonia and Latvia both have had much better songs.
 

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IF Greece win, we can host the contest! Like Svante said, ERT will earn money too. ;)
 

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Although it's not really on-topic, I was wondering how much voting costs in different countries and who (EBU, the broadcaster, etc) exactly gets the money. It's 10 EEK (about 0,64 €) in Estonia.
 

AleXcruiser

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RESPOND TO DELTAGE:

Actually I was wondering the exact same question when I saw the difference that existed between the FRENCH Eurovision Prize Vote and the GREEK one...

France: 0.56Euro per vote Tel and SMS (France 3/4)
Greece: 1.20Euro Tel / 1.21 SMS (ERT)

I was shocked to see SUCH a DIFFERENCE! Especially when Greece faces such a crisis!!!!

Greece minimum salary is 3 times less than France, but still prices are higher. And this for everything!
Double the Price of Eurovision Tele-voting in Greece than France... NO COMMENT!

Where all that money goes?! And how much costs the Contest? Who pays? How much is the ticket price for the show? Does the winner gets something?
I read that last year ESG was costing £30million and this year was cut by a quarter...

Regarding Tele-voting price we have as follows:

Estonia: 0.64 €
France: 0.56 €
Greece: 1.20 €

Please complete the list.

Last thought... I will start to vote again only when tele-voting money will be gathered for a European or Philanthropic cause.

EDIT:
Ticket Price: 100 to 200 €!!
Even the cheapest Madonna concert doesn't cost that much!!!
 

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Greece want the money for other things since I believe people don't bother paying tax.
 

Deltage

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I think it was 1€ in Finland, but I don't remember exactly (I watched the 1st semi on YLE because our broadcaster had messed up sound)
 

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It's more expensive here, too (I guess it's like that in the East): 1, 20 levs which means a bit more than 60 cents. Well, in Euros it's definitely better but I guess it'll become 1, 20 euros when we start using thee Euro, too. :lol:
 

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Well, apparently Estonia's supposed to get the euro next year or soon anyway, so we'll see if they'll raise the prices.
 

MyHeartIsYours

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It seems the Euro countries pay more :(

I guess you are all paying to support the Greeks :lol: For once I am glad to be non-Euro zone :lol:
 

AleXcruiser

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Eurovision 2010 Tele-Voting Price by country:

Bulgaria: 0.61 €
Estonia: 0.64 €
Finland: 1 €
France: 0.56 €
Greece: 1.20 €
U.K.: 0.18 €

Thanx to MyHeartIsYours, Deltage, and 94ayd for the update.
Waiting for more countries....

Danke :twisted:
 

AleXcruiser

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Eurovision 2010 Tele-Voting Price by country:

Bulgaria: 0.61 €
Estonia: 0.64 €
Finland: 1 €
France: 0.56 €
Greece: 1.20 €
Poland: 0.96 € <-
U.K.: 0.18 €
 

Deltage

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So far Greece is the most expensive, that's weird. I wonder how much it cost in Norway since our commentator kept saying that everything in Norway is really expensive.
 

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I really think we here in Germany might be the cheapest: 0,14 € (telephone), 0,20 € for SMS.

I think the reason is that there is a law here, that public broadcaster (Eurovision is aired at ARD, a public broadcaster) aren't alowed to make money with things like televoting and are just alowed to charge around the money which it costs for them.
 
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