Germany GERMANY 2025 - Abor and Tynna - Baller

[ESC United Mod Team]

 

[ESC94]

When I was a kid with a satellite dish, I had VIVA and German Mtv and I remember there was a lot of pop artists who sang in German

That was during the 2000s, right?? Before music in German wasn´t considered cool among teens and this only changed with bands like Silbermond, Juli, Wir sind Helden and Tokio Hotel.

 

[Bmbriga]

Yes and remember there was a lot of German music on those channels.

About the song... The biggest problem are her vocals. It's bad. When I listened to the song just now (I'm don't really follow national selections this year and I'm behind) I thought to myself it doesn't sound good, but I would probably loved the studio version, so I looked it up and yes... I love studio version.
I'm really happy the song is in German, though.

 

[Sammy]

When I was a kid with a satellite dish, I had VIVA and German Mtv and I remember there was a lot of pop artists who sang in German

I suppose I was talking about a time before that…

 

[Fluke]

I'm glad Germany's finally using their own language, but there's not all that much to say about this one. For a straight-up dance music track it is too held back, it has, not coincidentally, no balls. It really resembles the kind of music they play to "warm up the audience" before the show starts, more than an actual ESC entry.

The staging can and will obviously be changed, but it was way too dark, the singer looked like a wannabe Lena, the cello "playing" was pointless (i could hardly hear any cello in the song, was there one?) and the part where the duo danced on the front of the stage looked silly and underwhelming with the rest of the stage just empty behind them.

It seems Germany and the UK have the same problem when they really try to send something "fresh, youthful and different", it just feels too restrained, not radical enough, and just out of touch in some ways that's hard to define. With an extravagant staging, this could be Germany's Olly, or their Mae Muller if she really screws up the vocals. I kinda want to think this will do better than usual, but given their nonexistant skills at promoting and creating an image for their entries, i'd say it'll be hard to get above 20th place.

Finally, i don't usually listen to non-winning entries from other countries, but i really had to check out "Knightclub", and it really wasn't that good. The gimmick wears down quickly, and they would probably have to scale down the staging for the ESC anyway, leading to another "Blood & Glitter" situation, especially in a year already overstuffed with joke entries.

 

[Bmbriga]

I suppose I was talking about a time before that…

That was also decades ago. Although, I would be very happy it wasn't

 

[Sammy]

That was also decades ago. Although, I would be very happy it wasn't

we‘re in the same boat then

 

[Storm]

I suppose I was talking about a time before that…

Neue deutsche Welle though?

I don't know, I think there was always German music in all kinds of genres, but English music has just always been popular too, more so than in Southern European countries.

 

[Sammy]

Neue deutsche Welle though?

I don't know, I think there was always German music in all kinds of genres, but English music has just always been popular too, more so than in Southern European countries.

I was describing the origins of the prejudice in question. Of course those origins were before the NDW.

And I didn’t say, there were no examples of german contemporary music. There was just very very few relevant obes and could not establish a broad current. And I was describing why English was so much more popular.

 

[joao]

I actually LOVE LOVE THIS. SO german, so Berlin. There you go my lovely germans. Take my points!

But you really have to work on the performance. Make it more underground. And sticky.

 

[mauve]

Baller is a streaming hit on daily songcharts top 50 Germany on spotify already (place 4) - Isaak had only place 48 last year.

“Baller” doesn’t just work on Spotify, but also in all other popular charts. The live performance uploaded via the official German ESC YouTube account is currently number 1 in the German YouTube trends and the song is number 2 in the iTunes charts. Also pleasing: The current album “Bittersüß” by Abor & Tynna is number 4 in the iTunes album charts.

Source:

Nach „Chefsache ESC 2025“: „Baller“ von Abor & Tynna wird zum Streaming-Hit und stürmt die Spotify Top 50 - ESC kompakt

Nach der deutschen Vorentscheidung Chefsache ESC 2025 – Wer singt für Deutschland läuft es gut für Abor & Tynna mit ihrem ESC-Beitrag „Baller“. Nicht nur haben die ESC-kompakt…

esc-kompakt.de

So happy for the two!

 

[mauve]

Oh! And may I say that with 74 pages we are at the top again? Same procedure as every year!
Like every year we offer total drama, but this time also some good, fresh music!

 

[goncalovieira]

Huge result incoming.
This sounds fresh.

 

[WWE]

Honestly... This is great. Best German entry since Satellite.

 

[mauve]

I'm wandering off. What I wanted to say was: Even out the road – maybe cut the covers in the final and leave out the clear "fodder" from the first two shows, dunno – and it's a smooth ride, I deem the path to be the correct one. There was a lot of potential in the final line-up this year. And yes, keep the public's choice reduced. I have warranted trust issues when it comes to our NF

I am a bit torn ... what I can say is that we definitely had potential in the final (and also in the Vorrunden) line-up indeed. We had shining personalities like Cage or Moss, but simply with the wrong entry. Then we had great artists like Julika that had an interesting song, but it went nowhere. Should Raab really stay (I am not sure about it), he really need to change the concept - not everything, but parts. Covers are okay, but please not in the final, it makes no sense. And he should care about the songs to be more ESC-orientated, please.
About the public --- I don't trust the Germans either (mostly we choose the wrong entry), so keep the Juries please. But if we have a Super Final, please communicate this before the NF starts. But a German NF without scandal is boring, I guess.

 

[Lietuvis]

This is a cool entry. Nice to hear German language. The vocalist could work on her stamina a little bit. She seems out of breath for half the song.

 

[Jupiter]

About the public --- I don't trust the Germans either (mostly we choose the wrong entry), so keep the Juries please. But if we have a Super Final, please communicate this before the NF starts. But a German NF without scandal is boring, I guess.

I dunno, I often do not agree with our public vote either and like to joke about our horrible taste - but at the end, what should our entry represent if not the german public?

If you do not trust the audience, go Internal. Might be a good strategy for SWR at the start actually. But if you do not want that, than let the audience bloody vote. IMO the main issue is not the "german audience" anyway, but the fact that our NFs were mediocre and nobody cared. A very specific, small group of people voted. Make that NF bigger, grab more audience (that mostly succeeded) and motivate the people to vote (that did not succeed) - and we would likely see very different voting patterns.

And while I generally prefer the jury to be "german Musical Experts" over that "International jury" stuff, it should very much not be three parrots and Raab, who seems to have forgotten that juries exist and is generally stuck in 2010 (and honestly, seems to view Eurovision solely as a competition to be won, with no love for what it represents otherwise - different cultures, a Musical exchange etc.)

 

[Himan]

I think Germany can pay for some old cellos so it will be fine.

 

[Iker]

Honestly... This is great. Best German entry since Satellite.

My favourite since 2020 (poor Ben Dolic couldn't go unfortunately). I don't remember though that one receiving such positive reception though on message boards I used to frequent.

 

[SpiritofKeiino]

This is my favourite song so far this year.
I'm worried for it in the contest - vocals are a risk for jury and televote, and the song might be a little too mellow to get televotes.

 

[Rocket man]

Hmmm, it's really good that Germany picked this song, but my major problem is that the singer is just making zero impact on stage and her voice is so weak.

Also I agree with the comment about making it sound more underground too. They can make the production bigger with harder beats.

This has a lot of potential, it's whether the German delegation notices the flaws and really works on them.

Also woohoo to Germany sending songs in German again!