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    ^^ Partizan will play against Petrolul Ploiesti on 30th June It will be one of the first rivals for us in the preparation matches

    It should be a great test for us
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    Nice! We will play the Supercup against them on 10th of July. Btw, every newspaper in is saying that the most dangerous teams that Steaua can meet in the UEFA Champions League play-off are Partizan and Dinamo Zagreb. I hope we won't play against Partizan though and get an easier opponenet
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    Yes, Steaua is one of our potential rivals in case we make it to the play-off, but I wouldn't like for us to play against you in the play-off, as I want both Partizan and Steaua in the CL!

    Realistically, I think Dinamo is your hardest opponent, but then again, we don't know with which team we are going to enter the qualifications, as almost all players are put on the transfer list. We may be stronger than now, but we may be weaker too.


    We usually have trouble in the 3rd round. In 2009 we were eliminated by APOEL, in 2010 we eliminated HJK Helsinki, in 2011 KRC Genk eliminated us (even though we outplayed them completely in both matches), and last year AEL Limassol wrecked us completely We lost two times with 1-0, but I had a feeling that we got like...... 10 goals in the net. They were so physically dominant in both matches, and in Belgrade we created the first scoring chance in 85th minute, even though they got a red card in the early stage of the match. We did have a moron on the bench though, but it was painful to watch

    We managed to eliminate Tromso in the Europa League playoff, and I am satisfied with how we played in the group stage. Comparing to the season two years ago when Shamrock Rovers surprised us and eliminated us, this was an advance I am still sad we didn't use the chance to beat Inter Milano on Meacca though with their strongest team, and we had a chance for that That would've been epic. But as I said, that is a reality of football at the moment.


    Whenever we played in the Champions League, we had a great defense. And unfortunately, we are going to have changes in that part almost certainly as Ivanov wants to go, and they will probably send him. Ivanov is our best defender and he is one of the crucial factors for these titles that we won. Stojkovic (the goalie) will also leave the club probably, and he is unrealistically good keeper for us. Which is not surprising as he is the first goalie of national team as well. I doubt that his successor will be that good even though we have talented keepers in our school.


    Lazar Markovic was sold to Benfica and he was one of our best players in the last two seasons. Also one of the biggest talents in Europe currently. We had offers from Real, Arsenal, Fiorentina, Chelsea, Inter........and many other huge teams for him.


    So, everything depends on the transfer period. If it goes well, we will have what to hope for I don't worry about our league, we will still be the best, but for something more in Europe we need improvements
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    Partizan not qualifying over Shamrock Rovers was the biggest shock in the European competitions.... Anyway, I think that except for FC Basel and Celtic, Partizan can beat any team from the first pot in the play-off

    Anyway, I think you have escaped us, as most proably Steaua will have Fenerbahce's fate from two years ago and will be excluded from European competitions ( Steaua's owner was sentenced yesterday to 3 years in prison because in 2008 he promissed 1,7 milion Euros to "U" Cluj players if they would win against CFR Cluj. UEFA will have a decision regarding our case by Monday. That way Pandurii Targu Jiu will go to UEFA Champions League and will be in the second pot.

    There are rumors that Steaua will be relegated also and that would be horrible for the Romanian league. We already lost Rapid, ""U" Cluj and Universitatea Craiova and if Steaua will play in Liga 2 next year, Liga 2 will be more interesting to watch than Liga 1
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    Indeed, and it is the biggest disgrace in our history unfortunately we have this bad side in our mentality that if we lose chances for something that we originally plan, then we are playing for that "satisfactory, but less valuable prize" without any motivation. That happened a lot of times to national team in all sports a lot of times, and is generally our trade mark. We had like 25 scoring chances against Shamrock in both matches, but we were missing even those "harder to miss than to score" situations, and the Rovers felt that they can surprise, even though they were outsiders and deserved that victory.

    Also, the players understemiated them. They were quite tricky that year, I remember how FC Copenhagen barely passed over them, and in the EL they were leading against the strongest team of Tottenham. Their style is quite unusual, and teams that are technically trained have problems with that. It is some sort of a modification of typical island soccer with a lot of long balls.


    My opinion is nearly the same, although we are not in the favorites in that section, no matter who our rival will be (if we manage to get to the play-off). Although, there are some tricky teams that we can get in the 2nd round too. For example Győri ETO. They won the title now, and since they managed to leave the team like Videoton behind, they are definetly a good team. Also Ludogorec. They are much much stronger than all teams that we can face in the 2nd round (if we exclude Győri ), and they are objectively a team who deserves far more than that. Dinamo Zagreb barely passed them last year, I watched the second match. They had luck, and a lot of it. Those two teams I would like to avoid.

    Then again, almost everybody thought that RSC Anderlecht will trash us 3 years ago, but we managed to eliminate them and enter the Champions League


    I sincerely hope that Steaua will not face the relegation and that you will not be excluded from the European championships. These things are being done by everyone in the soccer world. Who knows how much of that is being done here in but UEFA didn't make an investigation yet. And I hope that we will watch both Steaua and Partizan in the Champions League
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    The thing is really bad here! There is a phone conversation betwen the former owner of "U" Cluj and the owner of Steaua in wich, the former owner of "U" Cluja says that CFR Cluj offered them 1 million Euros to let them win the match and he is asking how much will Steaua pay them TO PLAY FAIR. The Romanian Federation declared Steaua as clean, but the civil law decided it was corruption. So, if you pay a team to play correct you go 3 years in prison

    The bad thing is that UEFA ruled out Steaua and Fenerbahce from their list today and they will not visit our stadiums until the process is finished (
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    We had cases like that here as well. I really can't say if Partizan was doing it, as I don't have informations about that (I wouldn't exclude it though, objectively), but I do know that Zvezda was paying several teams that played against us to "die on the field" before the matches. If there would be a UEFA investgation about this, it could happen that almost entire 1st league would be imprisoned and/or relegated

    UEFA itself is not completely clean either (soccer has become one of the most profitable businesses in the world, so it is interesting to many people who deal with illegal activities in general), and there could be something else as an extra reason for all this.

    I really wish you to avoid all possible sanctions






    Also, a tragic news from A president of Vojvodina , Ratko Butorovic, is found dead in his hotel this morning Even though he was one of the biggest criminals in involved in.........well, who knows how many things, I am, of course, sorry for him as a person. After all, the wife has now lost her husband, and the children lost their father. Vojvodina was a very good team, and he lifted them to a whole new level. The only team that we had many problems with were them. This season they outplayed and beated both us and Zvezda on our own fields. They even had a team ready to attack the title, even though Butrovic was only trying to make money this way. I think this is a heavy loss for them, and I also think that they will now be in a very critical situation, as Vojvodina without Butorovic will not be the same.

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    Everybody knows Butorovic here! He was the one who called Adrian Mutu in Novi Sad to party after - 5 - 0. Anyway, may he rest in peace! (

    In other news, UEFA opened the cases of Steaua, Besiktas and Fenerbahce today and a decission regarding the participation will be given after 24 June. Hope it will be a good one....

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    I didn't know that he called Mutu to a party after that match Last season they hired Stephen Appiah, and it was a huge transfer bomb, and unbelievable that such huge star comes to play for Vojvodina in the league. And Appiah said, during the promotion, that as soon as he saw Butorovic he saw something special that he didn't see in any president before, and that's why he signed




    As I said, I heard all kinds of things about his illegal activies, all being from people who live in Novi Sad, but one thing is undeniable, and that is that he was a very charismatic personality and someone who gave brighter colors to our soccer. Vojvodina was in very critical moments before he came, and from the bottom, he made them one of the best teams in . He never wanted to sell a player to us or Zvezda, and they have a couple of outstanding players for our surrounding. I liked his philosophy completely.

    If I could now make a transfer list wishes, I would put at least 5 players from Vojvodina on it. They also have some great young players like Radoja and Poletanovic and they are the future of soccer.

    For a couple of years already, I believe that Vojvodina is a much bigger rival to us than Zvezda. In the season 2010/11 when we played in the Champions League they beated us 3 times. 3:1, 2:0 and 1:0 and in the last couple of matches even though we beated them, they had periods where they would trap us in our 16 m with their high pressing and we couldn't cross a half. Now with Marko Nikolic as a coach, we should be extra careful.



    Zvezda has serious chances to be third next season. If they didn't have a support of the referees and the government last season they would be 4th-5th. They lost from us, Vojvodina (two times with 3:0 ), Spartak Zlatibor Voda (again 3:0), OFK Beograd (1:0 and 3:1), etc.......and all those teams are in the upper half. Now they signed one player Djordje Rakic who plays the attacker, and he scored 1 goal last season for Munchen 1860 I hope they keep on with these great reinforcements



    I hope that the decision will be positive and I cross my fingers
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    Milan Lukač (previously a goalie of OFK Beograd) is a new goalie of Partizan! He signed a 3 year long contract and he will be a change for Vladimir Stojković, our standard keeper until now, and the standard keeper of national team as well, who has now moved to the Turkish Konyaspor.


    Lukač will have his promotion on the Partizan's stadium tomorrow.


    I am quite satisfied. The best keeper in the league after Stojković, so he deserved a spot in Partizan.






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