Page 16 of 16 FirstFirst ... 61213141516
Results 151 to 158 of 158

Thread: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

  1. Expert
    Germany
    Realest's Avatar
    Gender
    Male
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    4,228
    Location
    Germany
    #151

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    Eurovisionario
    ‏eurovisionario
    38 Min.Vor 38 Minuten

    Cambio de opinión:

    Votación de Verica Culjkovic (Jurado) en la #EuroSemi1:

    1. Grecia
    2. Chipre
    3. Serbia
    5. San Marino

    Votación de Verica Culjkovic en la Final de #Eurovision:

    1. Serbia
    24. Chipre
    25. Grecia
    26. San Marino
    Likes  WhoKnows liked this post
     
    I never walk away na na, walk away na na

  2. Expert
    Germany
    Realest's Avatar
    Gender
    Male
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    4,228
    Location
    Germany
    #152

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    18/95 Jurymembers had in their Top5. Not Bad.

    Jurado - Posicionaron a Montenegro en el Top 5:
    1Sanja I. 1Aleksandra M. 1Leontina 1Silvana 1Voja
    1Elia G. 1Marilia R. 2 Sabrina M. 3 Paolo R. 4 Danilo B.
    4 Mark C.
    4 Kiki
    4 Jitka Z.
    4 DJ Chris P 5 Andrie M.
    5 Nikos 5 Thanasis A.
    5 Sole G.
    I never walk away na na, walk away na na

  3. Ninja
    Belgium
    BorisBubbles's Avatar
    Gender
    Male
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Posts
    1,181
    Location
    Tumblr, mostly.
    #153

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    Quote Originally Posted by Realest View Post
    Its not the EBUs Fault that some Jurymembers are too dumb for a right Voting. Maybe an IQ-Test would be an Option to select the right Jurors.
    Rubbish. It IS the EBU's fault. What's preventing them from giving the jurors a simple, uniform instruction on how to use the software? Some of these people are in their 60s and come from poor countries, assuming *everyone* knows how to use a computer is ludicrous. What's preventing them from having a handler near the jurors who double checks whether they're implimenting their votes correctly? What's preventing them from telling jurors NOT to disclose how they voted until the winner's been picked? Clearly nothing prevented Björkman from giving instructions on how to vote in both the second SF and the GF due to the technical difficulties which took place.

    The incorrect voting comes from a lack of information and instruction provided by the associated broadcasters, which is an organisational flaw. The end responsibility for organisation lies with the EBU. Hence, why it's their fault.
    Likes  Etanna, Alaska49, Loindici liked this post
     
    It's not the song that matters, but what you do with it.

  4. Active Member
    Czech Republic
    Etanna's Avatar
    Gender
    Female
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Posts
    138
    #154

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    Quote Originally Posted by BorisBubbles View Post
    Rubbish. It IS the EBU's fault. What's preventing them from giving the jurors a simple, uniform instruction on how to use the software? Some of these people are in their 60s and come from poor countries, assuming *everyone* knows how to use a computer is ludicrous. What's preventing them from having a handler near the jurors who double checks whether they're implimenting their votes correctly? What's preventing them from telling jurors NOT to disclose how they voted until the winner's been picked? Clearly nothing prevented Björkman from giving instructions on how to vote in both the second SF and the GF due to the technical difficulties which took place.

    The incorrect voting comes from a lack of information and instruction provided by the associated broadcasters, which is an organisational flaw. The end responsibility for organisation lies with the EBU. Hence, why it's their fault.
    Yeah, the errors that have occurred could have been prevented by being clearer with the instructions (the Belarusian jury clearly wasn't aware of all the conditions it entails - it's hard to believe they breached the rules intentionally because that would just be too stupid) and by having somebody overlook/verify everything (that could have helped prevent the upside-down voting and the messed up aggregated Belarusian votes).

    Also, I agree about the age/cultural problems - it is something the EBU needs to respect when they work with such a diverse group of people. The instructions should therefore be as clear as possible. By the way, are the instructions in English or in native languages? Because that could also explain a lot since many people struggle with English.
    Likes  Loindici, HayashiM liked this post
     

  5. Expert
    Germany
    Realest's Avatar
    Gender
    Male
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    4,228
    Location
    Germany
    #155

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    in the First Semi.

    [1,1,1,1,1]
    [16,16,16,16,16)

    Also one of the macedonian Juries, with albanian Roots ranked first.

    Uku Suviste (), half Russian who knows Kirkorov personally and got his Eesti-Laul-Song revamped by him, ranked first.
    I never walk away na na, walk away na na

  6. Enthusiast
    Indonesia
    Loindici's Avatar
    Gender
    Male
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Posts
    193
    Location
    currently in Yogyakarta
    #156

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    Anyway, would there be any possibility that the broadcaster themselves are the one messing up the results (both jury and televote), since they (probably) collect the results first then reports it to the contest committee?

    I can imagine the rep of broadcaster instructing yhe juries "No matter what you vote for, always put Montenegro/Serbia or Greece/Cyprus first" "No matter what you do, always put Azerbaijan/Armenia last" "Make sure the aggregate score for Sweden stays at no.1" or some sort of those.

    Or in case of televote, "Just report that Armenia is last".
    Dohot holong ni roha, Loindici.

  7. Senior Member
    Czech Republic
    HayashiM's Avatar
    Gender
    Male
    Join Date
    Jan 2019
    Posts
    423
    Location
    Prague, Czech Republic
    #157

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    @VirginiaVision, @BorisBubbles

    We ordinary fan people changing our minds within a few days - yeah, that's fine and expected, though I truly don't expect anyone to go from my top 5 to my bottom 5 or vice versa within such a short time, EVER. Even my grower of the year Iceland has only managed to get from 40th to 20th - ish and Switzerland last year from 38th to 15th - ish).

    But for a PROFESSIONAL jury member, to have such a change of heart in 2-4 days speaks volumes of their "professionalism". There just isn't any.
    I don't care how many of my favourites the juries have pushed. With all this political voting and blunders from their part, they're ridiculous! I'd rather go 4th with Mikolas and bottom 5 with Lake Malawi than having their scores "normalized", as much as I love Friend of a Friend and don't quite like Lie to me.

    Vox populi, vox Dei. Down with the juries!

    (Also, I can't grasp how can these Greece / Cyprus and Azerbaijan / Armenia issues be tolerated at all. Do you guys keep perpetuating the same political pattern year after year after year? Fine - sorry to all your fans, but let's ban you for a year or two and see if it changes. If not, get out for a decade. This is what hurts Eurovision much more than any of the so called "joke entries".)
    Likes  94ayd, VirginiaVision liked this post
     

  8. Expert
    Germany
    Realest's Avatar
    Gender
    Male
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Posts
    4,228
    Location
    Germany
    #158

    Re: 2019 JURY BEWILDERMENT AND AMUSEMENT THREAD

    I think around 80-85% of all Jurymembers are totally uncorrupt and fair. Here in western (except Microstates like Malta and San Marino) and northern Europe, Juries are unpolitically and just do their Job, weather we agree or not. Only in South and especially East Europe there are a few Countries whose Juries cant respect the Rules of Eurovision unfortunately.
    Likes  Loindici liked this post
     
    I never walk away na na, walk away na na

Page 16 of 16 FirstFirst ... 61213141516

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Copyright © 2009-2018 escunited.com. All rights reserved. Designed by Trece All times are GMT +2. The time now is 08:15.