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    Re: Your Ideal Votingsystem for 2019

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    I said it in another Thread.. I would go back to the 100% Televoting but not in the Recent Form. The 12 Points-System unfairly advantages Countries who (nearly) completely Rely on Diasporavotes while getting ignored from most/all of the Non-Diasporacountries. I would suggest a 20 Points-System [20,18,16,14,12,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1] which of Course doesnt prevent/delete Diasporavoting, but reduces it. The Points from 1-10 should be shown on the screen and the Spokespersons should read out loud the 12,14,16,18 and 20 Points. This System is mathematically more just, since it reflects the Reality more in the Table-Midfield and Bottom and reduces the Diaspora-effect. Also its very easy to understand for Casual-Viewers. These would be the Results of 2018 if we used this System:
    I did the Same Calculation for 2017 and 2016 for the Semis and the Final (Left is the new Resuls, right the Original Result):

    2017 Final:



    2017 Semis:



    2016:

    00: LV | 01: GR | 02: LV | 03: TR | 04: UA | 05: CS | 06: FI | 07: BY | 08: IL |
    09: NO | 10: DE | 11: GR | 12: AZ | 13: AZ | 14: ES | 15: SE | 16: UA | 17: BG | 18: AT

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    Since the Juries will never be abolished, I think the Juryvoting could be improved like this (some Suggestions were also made here):

    - Increase Juries to 7. Add 2 Presspeople with experience in ESC-Reporting. The problem with the musicprofessionals is often that they have connections like the Juries from GR and CY with Dimitris Kontoupoulos and Fokas Evangelinos who composed and staged the azeri Entry. Evangelinos also staged MDs Performance. So as Counterweight they would be good. Also they might be a bit more open to untypical Songs like "Origo" or "Yodel it" who had bad Juryscores.

    - Having higher conditions for Musicprofessionals. I dont think that someone with 3 Mio YT-Views and a #30-Album should get that Responsibility.

    - Make the Jurymembers explain their Top3 and Bottom3 (7-8 Sentences maximum.). I want to know which explanation the azeri Juries found to rank a professional Entry like "lovewave" on #25. Maybe it would lead that the azeri and armenian Jurys from now on rank each other [22,22,22,22,22] to avoid being forced to explain their Ranking for their hated neighbours.

    - Dont reveal the Jurymembers until the Day of the First Semi to decrease Collusions.

    For the Televoting:

    - Televoting in the current form is not democratic. Allowing 20 Votes per phone but only 5 to the Same Country could be improvement.
    00: LV | 01: GR | 02: LV | 03: TR | 04: UA | 05: CS | 06: FI | 07: BY | 08: IL |
    09: NO | 10: DE | 11: GR | 12: AZ | 13: AZ | 14: ES | 15: SE | 16: UA | 17: BG | 18: AT

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    Re: Your Ideal Votingsystem for 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Realest View Post
    Since the Juries will never be abolished, I think the Juryvoting could be improved like this (some Suggestions were also made here):

    - Increase Juries to 7. Add 2 Presspeople with experience in ESC-Reporting. The problem with the musicprofessionals is often that they have connections like the Juries from GR and CY with Dimitris Kontoupoulos and Fokas Evangelinos who composed and staged the azeri Entry. Evangelinos also staged MDs Performance. So as Counterweight they would be good. Also they might be a bit more open to untypical Songs like "Origo" or "Yodel it" who had bad Juryscores.

    - Having higher conditions for Musicprofessionals. I dont think that someone with 3 Mio YT-Views and a #30-Album should get that Responsibility.

    - Make the Jurymembers explain their Top3 and Bottom3 (7-8 Sentences maximum.). I want to know which explanation the azeri Juries found to rank a professional Entry like "lovewave" on #25. Maybe it would lead that the azeri and armenian Jurys from now on rank each other [22,22,22,22,22] to avoid being forced to explain their Ranking for their hated neighbours.

    - Dont reveal the Jurymembers until the Day of the First Semi to decrease Collusions.

    For the Televoting:

    - Televoting in the current form is not democratic. Allowing 20 Votes per phone but only 5 to the Same Country could be improvement.
    I would rather having each jurymember motivating their top 10 and the bottom 5

    Otherwise, I agree totally

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    Re: Your Ideal Votingsystem for 2019

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    For the Televoting:

    - Televoting in the current form is not democratic. Allowing 20 Votes per phone but only 5 to the Same Country could be improvement.
    I think a better Option would be to get rid of Televoting and Invent an App where People can Submit a Full Ranking. Maybe this could have prevented Israel from Winning. A Song that got 460K Dislikes shouldnt win the Competition.
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    00: LV | 01: GR | 02: LV | 03: TR | 04: UA | 05: CS | 06: FI | 07: BY | 08: IL |
    09: NO | 10: DE | 11: GR | 12: AZ | 13: AZ | 14: ES | 15: SE | 16: UA | 17: BG | 18: AT

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    Re: Your Ideal Votingsystem for 2019

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    I think a better Option would be to get rid of Televoting and Invent an App where People can Submit a Full Ranking. Maybe this could have prevented Israel from Winning. A Song that got 460K Dislikes shouldnt win the Competition.
    A great idea on paper but if the server crashes (which is 98% sure to happen) than it´s game over
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