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    When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    As we all know the big 5 make the final every year. Many people disagree with this. With all the changed in ESC in the last 10-15 years do you think there could be another change to remove the PQ status of the Big 5?
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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    I have always been against it because it could discourage the big 5 if they fail to make the final but more recently I have been thinking it could be the kick up the arse they need.

    If the BBC don't get the viewing figures they are used to then they could give it up (which I think is a good idea because I want ITV to take over and we could send good songs)
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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    No Big 5 = Eurovision goes bankrupt... or at least suffers a heavy loss of money for a year.
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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by BernadetteCydonia View Post
    No Big 5 = Eurovision goes bankrupt... or at least suffers a heavy loss of money for a year.
    There are countries that can pay more:

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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    Whenever any of said countries stop contributing so much money to EBU. Interesting fact - EBU changed the rules of relegation in the 90's a few times to make sure none of those countries get relegated. It was fine in 93 and 94, but there was a problem in 95 where Germany came last. They made a PQ round instead of relegating the bottom countries. To some people's surprise, Germany didn't make out of the PQ round. So, they changed it again from 97 that the past 5 editions will count towards being/not-being relegated. But... France started doing badly and Germany, too. There was a risk of them being relegated, so in 99 EBU said "feck it all - make them qualify for the final regardless of anything, lulz".

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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    Germany payd only 363K/15 Mio in Vienna while Netherlands paid 240K. I dont understand why they cant make Germany pay maybe 270-280K and let them participate in the Semi.
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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by Realest View Post
    Germany payd only 363K/15 Mio in Vienna while Netherlands paid 240K. I dont understand why they cant make Germany pay maybe 270-280K and let them participate in the Semi.
    You are from Germany, why do you say that ?
    Why don't you defend your country ?

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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by GRE View Post
    You are from Germany, why do you say that ?
    Why don't you defend your country ?
    I'm french and I don't disagree with him, I don't think France should be in the final, also there's a lot of countries that pays a lot too (I do remember one year it was 6th - The Netherlands, 7th Belgium, 8th Russia and I don't remember the two left of the top 10 contributors). We can root for our country and not being blind at the same time. That's just the normal way to support your country imho, seeing the good and be able to tell about the wrong sides.
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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    Quote Originally Posted by GRE View Post
    You are from Germany, why do you say that ?
    Why don't you defend your country ?
    The last 3 Years we Germany wouldnt have made it to the Final, so I dont see the sense in being directly qualified. Id rather see my Country becoming 14th-15th in the Semi than Lastplace in the Final. Im pretty sure that Ann-Sophie could have a career right now, if she wasnt directly qualified f.e. I see only disadvantages.
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    Re: When will the Big 5 be abolished?

    It will never be, they are the countries with the big money, big audiences and carry larger cultural weight.
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