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    Re: Victims of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by RomanFromRussia View Post
    What result of Ukraine wasn't deserved?
    Obviously : 2004, 2007, 2013, 2014, 2016

    Not sure :
    2008 (2nd place is very high, something like 5-6th place is more deserved)
    2011 (weak year, but 4th place is debatable, even if it's my favourite Ukranian entry)
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by LastDreamer View Post
    Obviously : 2004, 2007, 2013, 2014, 2016
    These songs were among the faves between press and eurofans before the competition. You may hate them, but you cannot deny the fact people loved these songs and just voted for them. (And juries too).

    Anything else is just subjective opinion.
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    Which places could get or (or even ) with "Gravity" or even more interesting with "Tick-Tock" ?
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by LastDreamer View Post
    Which places could get or (or even ) with "Gravity" or even more interesting with "Tick-Tock" ?
    Lithuania made it into the top 10 with decent performance of Donny Montell, Germany also made it with Roman Lob, UK ... oh when they took it really seriously?
     

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    Re: Victims of Politics

    @LastDreamer What the hell? Ruslana, Verka were awful?? Those were literally my childhood... Your entitled to have your own opinion but you can't label these entries as 'awful' while for a lot of ESC fans those are one of the best ever.

    Why are we even mentioning Ukraine, they don't even have a large diaspora or anything. Just made themselves big with the effort and thought they put in their entries. (Except tick tock)

    I'm sure if UK, Germany or Lithuania would come with something as unique and great as Verka or Ruslana they would make the left side of of the board easily. Heck Germany even won the contest not that long ago with something that was quite mediocre imo. Yea... Time to stop complaining I think and start sending some decent songs.
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by LastDreamer View Post
    But it's not the same for Ukraine. Almost every their entry was awful
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    P.S : Some weeks before Eurovision Anmary and Krista were the contenders for win in my opinion
    Had to lough very much
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    It's like alternative history, but what if...

    2013 : Germany sent "Gravity", Ukraine sent "Glorious" ?
    2014 : UK sent "Tick-Tock", Ukraine sent Molly ?

    Eurovision voting is not only about hardcore fans, the rest peoples mostly voted for the neighbours. That's why ex-Soviet countries (especially Russia and Ukraine) always will have the advantage over the rest countries.

    Is it a coincidence, when two Ukranian singers with the most anti-Russian political views won ?
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by LastDreamer View Post
    It's like alternative history, but what if...

    2013 : Germany sent "Gravity", Ukraine sent "Glorious" ?
    2014 : UK sent "Tick-Tock", Ukraine sent Molly ?

    Eurovision voting is not only about hardcore fans, the rest peoples mostly voted for the neighbours. That's why ex-Soviet countries (especially Russia and Ukraine) always will have the advantage over the rest countries.

    Is it a coincidence, when two Ukranian singers with the most anti-Russian political views won ?
    Quen Tako flopped so hard...

    If UA had sent both two entries, we wouldn't have seen these flop-performances. Ukraine takes ESC in more responsible way.
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    I am falling from above
    I will wait no longer...

    I’m like a butterflyyyyyyyyy
    Spinning round a sword as if to daaaaaare
    I should have stayed up hiiiiiiiigh
    (It’s stronger than me) My GRAVITY, My GRAVITY
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    I liked both but this one bit more then Glorious back then tbh and it aged MUCH better. Not to mention Zlata slayed us with her beauty and her amazing voice. STOP hating on Ukraine
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    Re: Victims of Politics

    Quote Originally Posted by LastDreamer View Post
    Obviously : 2004, 2007, 2013, 2014, 2016

    Not sure :
    2008 (2nd place is very high, something like 5-6th place is more deserved)
    2011 (weak year, but 4th place is debatable, even if it's my favourite Ukranian entry)
    only 2003, 2005 and 2017 are their weaker tries.. it's because 2003 was their debut entry and in 2005&2017 they didn't want to win..
    In my opinion all placings were deserved, in 2008 they didn't win because of and who snatched Ani's votes
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