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Thread: CZECH REPUBLIC 2018 - Mikolas Josef - Lie to Me

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    CZECH REPUBLIC 2018 - Mikolas Josef - Lie to Me


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    Re: CZECH REPUBLIC 2018 - Mikolas Josef - Lie to Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Krishoes View Post
    Guuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu uurl.

    It was a joke, don't turn everything into a socio-political essay, we're not here for that.

    I like your entry, musically!
    Don't worry, I am not personally offended or anything, I just "do my duty" and defend my favourite as always. Don't we all?

    However, try to imagine that everytime someone mentions your country, the immediate association of most people would be, let's say, "Italy=flatulent comedies with Paolo Villaggio". Now, Mr. Villaggio was master of his domain and certainly was part of Italian culture, but as I can imagine, probably not the one most of Italians are particularly proud of. So, don't be surprised if I am not over-excited about this outworn Czech=porn association, especially when it's used in connection to someone about whom I think he has something more to offer than just "pretty face", as they say.

    (Warning: a socio-political essay will follow, so don't read further if you are not here for that)

    What concerns me more, is how seriously or light-heartedly will be the song performed and then received by the general Eurovision audience. When I first saw and heard Lie To Me, it felt like it's very obviously a tongue-in-cheek pastiche of Robin Thicke/Jason Derulo/Justin Timberlake type of machistic American pop and also (not so obviously for foreigners) a cute allusion to playful Czech pop songs and early music videos made in the 1960s. But then I started to worry when I discovered some surprisingly serious and sometimes almost offended reactions of people who believe that Lie To Me is meant to be some sort of serious "machistic declaration", so to say. I don't think they are right. The meaning of the song - as I understand it - is:

    A guy broke-up with his girlfriend after finding out that she cheated on him. Now in the verses, he hides his frustration and disappointment under all those strong, expressive words, basically saying "go wherever you want, it's all your fault, I don't need you anyway" and pretending that he's not hurt at all, while in the refrain he admits that he actually misses her and wants her to come back. ("Lie To Me" in the sense "Yeah, say whatever you want, I don't believe you anymore" and at the same time "Lie to me in bed, we will try once more to work it out").

    In the music video and the performance in Ukraine, this ambivalence is indicated by the contrast between the ridiculous wannabe "macho" vocabulary/dance attempts and his appearance as a clueless nerdy boy (Mikolas normally doesn't look like that). In his first performance at the Czech Blog Awards, he used a different strategy - For about 2 minutes, he performed it in "full macho" mode, then the lights went off, a single cone of light appeared on the edge of the stage and Mikolas stood there in "normal" mode, singing the last "Lie To Me" part stripped off of all the fancy arrangement, just with a guitar and his suddenly civil and vulnerable voice, directly facing the audience. Like "now, when I've finally got all the anger off my chest, I can quit the pose and we can talk again like civilized people".

    I am starting to think that this version of staging could be possibly more effective at Eurovision stage, if done correctly (the Czech Blog Award Show had some unfortunate camera and sound department issues due to their choice of unusually shaped stage), as it could partly calm down the "offended ones" and help them to "get it". Even though I personally prefer the less melodramatic version.

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    Re: CZECH REPUBLIC 2018 - Mikolas Josef - Lie to Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Ritararita View Post
    Newton's Third Law, I guess. Well, I do not intend to take part in any verbal arm-wrestling and I will not dare persuade you to change your opinion. Obviously, you don't like the song and that's OK. However, I would appreciate if you could spare few seconds asking yourself whether is it really necessary to put your opinion in such words as "horrible trash" and "shame on you, Czech Republic" and how exactly does it make your life better. Thank you.
    expressing my opinions in a carefree (even if not nice) way certainly does me a lot better than chastising a stranger on the internet for taking their post as if it was a personal insult. i obviously don't think less of czech republic as a country because their tv channel is sending a, well, absolutely horrible trash song, so it's at best tonedeaf to treat me as if i did. at least people who want to pick a fight are intelectually honest about it.

    with that said i do feel sort of bad fot making fun of how he looks. the best look in the world wouldn't save this song. i apologize, mikolas, if you ever read this. which you won't. you have better things to do.

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    Re: CZECH REPUBLIC 2018 - Mikolas Josef - Lie to Me

    I love Eurovision We can write a bible about everything (and about nothing)

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    "Kris, you're a homosexual so I'll send you The Essential Barbara Streisand collection." (cit. RainyWoods)

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    Re: CZECH REPUBLIC 2018 - Mikolas Josef - Lie to Me

    Quote Originally Posted by Krishoes View Post
    I love Eurovision We can write a bible about everything (and about nothing)

    Theoretically we can, but you know...

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