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    Eurovision was outrageous, bizarre and unfair, when Turkey was the main player, so I am not very keen on their return. Their diaspora is the strongest across Europe and they are the reason juries were re-introduced. With Turkey back in the game, we have to let the juries stay or Eurovision would return to becoming as obsolete as it was 10 years ago. I fear TRT and the president are trying to promote their agenda and subvert the platform of tolerance that Eurovision is, especially for LGBT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezio View Post
    Eurovision was outrageous, bizarre and unfair, when Turkey was the main player, so I am not very keen on their return. Their diaspora is the strongest across Europe and they are the reason juries were re-introduced. I fear TRT and the president are trying to promote their agenda and subvert the platform of tolerance that Eurovision is, especially for LGBT.
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    Omg lol your typical Western-European hypocrite has spoken. You sound so salty, calm down nothing is official yet. Eurovision was so bizarre and unfair 10 years ago? Well Turkey has been taking part since 1975 and for many people here it was outrageous, unfair and bizarre back then. Many Eurofans know how Turkey basically got ignored by all countries. My grandma told me they were celebrating every point like a victory lol Semiha first Turkish participant ever said she felt truly discriminated and Eurovision basically ruined her life and her carreer! But ofcourse you dont care about all that as long as the countries you like make it to the finale
    Diaspora votes is a big problem, however thats why we introduced juries (who are not much better) so whats your point. You can make unproven claims like juries came back because of Turkey and Turkey has the largest diaspora but it doesnt make it true when you say it like its a fact. Largest diaspora is clearly the Russian one. But you don't see Russia win each year either.
    Yes I too would prefer us not participate at all if its just a way for Erdogan to promote his agenda but tbh these few years I have noticed that this is pretty much what everyone is doing at ESC. Diaspora votes will always exist but I can truly see the televoters have matured. We don't know anything about Turkish diaspora atm, of course it will always be very strong but also will almost be 6 years and Turkey did DQ with horrible song in 2011 with new rules. Justice is no justice when its only applied to one group of people like back in the 70' 80' 90s or 00s too. Now its better still very flawed though especially the juries lately

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    2002 we gave 0 to but 12 to
    So the Turkians dont vote for every Garbage.
    But our 12 Points to Sibel were embarassing.
    Surprisingly the best turkish Entry got only 10 from us.
    Im excited how it will affect our Televote.
    But as this year was proven even Armenian Diaspora could be beaten so i think this will also happen to Turkey if its Justified.
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    I think this might be a Part of the Turkish Juryvoting:

    Juror A/B/C/D/E/
    Azerbaijan 1/1/1/1/1
    Armenia 25/25/25/25/25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Realest View Post
    I think this might be a Part of the Turkish Juryvoting:

    Juror A/B/C/D/E/
    Azerbaijan 1/1/1/1/1
    Armenia 25/25/25/25/25
    Don't you wonder which one Armenian juries will place higher, Azerbaijan or Turkey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EscTurkey View Post
    Don't you wonder which one Armenian juries will place higher, Azerbaijan or Turkey?
    Probably Azerbaijan synchron on 25 and Turkey synchron on 24

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    So rumors say it's gonna be Fatma Turgut (lead singer of former rock band Model). She even started following two Turkish Eurovision fan accounts and Eurovision's official account on Twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ewigkeit View Post
    So rumors say it's gonna be Fatma Turgut (lead singer of former rock band Model). She even started following two Turkish Eurovision fan accounts and Eurovision's official account on Twitter.
    Yes please

    I love her since when she was in Model and her first song is amazing

    I hope her entry will be something like this:


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    Omg huge congrats to TRT if this is true. And yes Fatma is now also liking people who say she will represent Turkey. She is a very unique artist imo and one of my all time faves especially when she is in her group 'Model'. If she works with the right people she surely could bring something incredible on table.

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    I've not been around for years since Turkey ceased to participate and to be honest have not caught up with Eurovision since that. While it's not the sole reason why I've stopped watching Eurovision; I can say it was just a catalyst amongst other things that had already estranged me from Eurovision to some degree, especially after the end of 2000s. It had felt like countries started following a similar pattern of entries to address to the general audience rather than bringing different styles. Now that I'm a grown up; I miss the days when I enjoyed the contest, especially in the years of 2007, 2008 and 2009. I will never forget these years and the entries!

    Anyways; if Turkey returns, this might be another catalyst to start watching the contest again, even if the entry pattern is as where I left off. I just feel nostalgic. But again; things are never the same.

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