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Thread: RUSSIA 2017 - Not taking part

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    Quote Originally Posted by toinou03 View Post
    Russia isn't one of the countries that pays the most. Countries like or have bigger fees...
    Yeah, I was just about to say, there's a reason why Russia (although being the biggest ESC country) isn't included in the "BIG" countries.

    But, I assume Russia pays under the table aswell (hence the odd reactions and statements we got from the EBU), and I think for some EBU officials those payments are more worth since it goes directly into the pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabiondo View Post
    Tell me, how back at ESC 2011 after 14 years without telecasting the 2010 contest neither? *Hypocrisy mode on*
    Bringing Italy back was the only reason the EBU dropped the rule. Italy is a Big 5 country and it's good to have them back, so changing the rule for that purpose made sense.
    Now it would be nice to have the good old rule back. It would help the contest in this day and age.

    If the EBU weren't just about money, this would be the perfect way to punish Russia. Russia would get a hissy fit and might even go cold turkey.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GianlucaTomoe View Post
    If only there had been juries in 2008 already...
    I guess Eurovision needed to hit rock bottom before the EBU was willing to change something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A-lister View Post
    Which would only prove that EBU would punish Ukraine for greedy financial reasons (fuck Eurovision "values" afterall).

    If Ukraine pays their fee just like any other country according to the rules, then I don't see any valid reason for banning them, so this would just make EBU look very bad.
    The EBU wouldn't get any Ukrainian money, if they did that, so what would be the point?

    Maybe Russia will tell the EBU that it's either Russian money or Ukrainian money and then Jon Ola will bend over and present his posterior to Putin.
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    #2535

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    i don't even know what would happen if juries existed in the 2008 final though. everything in the top 7 was very un-jury, even norway. can you imagine israel winning while placing 8th in the televote? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alaska49 View Post
    i don't even know what would happen if juries existed in the 2008 final though. everything in the top 7 was very un-jury, even norway. can you imagine israel winning while placing 8th in the televote? lol
    Israel was 9th...oh, how I love being the obnoxious Eurovision Know-it-all.
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    Really for Eurovision fans who claim to be so open minded there are a lot of people with so many double standards here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt View Post
    Israel was 9th...oh, how I love being the obnoxious Eurovision Know-it-all.
    omg as a fellow eurovision know it all i am DISGUSTED at myself. and i LOVE day after day even!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezio View Post
    After Russia's withdrawal EBU has to say goodbye to a lot of advertising money. That means Ukraine can say goodbye to Eurovision next year.
    Ukraine didn't force Russia to refuse from ESC broadcast. Just like Ukraine didn't ban Russian broadcaster from taking part. So the only one who has to leave according to your logic is Russia. Nobody will withdraw next year because the EBU is greedy as fuuu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chorizo View Post
    I guess Eurovision needed to hit rock bottom before the EBU was willing to change something.
    Yet 2004-2009 was the golden era, look where we are now - it all sounds and look the same more or less, westernized, all safe, all English, half imported from Sweden ... there were obvious problems back then with blind diaspora voting (and sure it still exist), but as far as entries goes it was far more exciting and entertaining where now it's just bland... and actually the televoters changed alot over the years... I'd say now even the juries are more biased.

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