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    Without the juries Russia would have won last year and Italy two years before (the countries our jury happened to chose). It is debatable if the winners were actually better. The choice to not give any points to Russia can be political, although one can never be sure.

    Greece doesn't have any buddies apart from Cyprus really (Europe is full of Germanic, Romance & Slavic countries) and the booing has happened many times in the past, even when there's was just televoting. Either way the 12 points to Cyprus this year were not less justifiable then the points Finland and Danemark gave to Sweden.
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    I dont get the hate. Im not sure, but i think Demy is one of the biggest stars in Cyprus so its definetely allowed for cyprish Juries to give their 12 Points to Greece.
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    Just for fun... This was a Demy ESC reject. Music by Dimitris Kontopoulos, Lyrics by John Ballad and Romy Papadea (Demy's sister)

    Greek version is currently number 10 on Greek airplay and fast rising.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Realest View Post
    I dont get the hate. Im not sure, but i think Demy is one of the biggest stars in Cyprus so its definetely allowed for cyprish Juries to give their 12 Points to Greece.
    And Hovig is a huge star in Greece

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue00eyes View Post
    And Hovig is a huge star in Greece
    At least he is a bit famous, since he was 7th place in X-Factor Greece and had some tours in Greece...


    Last Year the Greek Jury gave 8 to Cyprus and Cyprus returned 3 Points.
    2015 Greece ranked Cyprus 4-5th i think and Cyprus ranked Greece 6th.
    So it is no selfevidence to get 12 Points from their neighbour. Demy and Hovig fought for it and deserved it imo.

    This Year the cypriot Jury ranked Greek [2,1,6,1,2] and Greek Jury ranked Cyprus [1,6,8,1,2]. There is no reason to complain about Pointstraficking.

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    That Demy/ESC reject by Tamta I posted above hit number 1 on Greek airplay. Meanwhile Demy's new single post ESC......

    Award show remix below. We could have had something like this on ESC stage if Demy picked this song instead of "This is Love".


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    Demy is the only ESC-Artist this year whose songs I started to listen after the Tournament even if she is only 13/42 in My List.

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    This is craaaaaaaaap
    Reaching out for the stars
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    My review of "This Is Love":

    -Greece has never been a nation I particularly liked in ESC. During their successful years, I thought they relied too much on a recipe which ended up annoying me. Then, they started sending other things than their "entertaining Greekness" formula while completely disappearing from the top ten map. The only Greek entries I enjoyed this decade are "Watch My Dance" (their best effort by far in the 2010's imo) and "One Last Breath" (unoriginal but refreshing ballad coming from Greece). To a lesser extent, I admit I kinda liked "Aphrodisiac", but it didn't change the fact it was cheap and all heard before. After an unexpected failure last year, I wondered what Greeks would send in Kiev, and the final product surprised me (not in a good way though). "This Is Love" is a typical europop song that would have been hot in 2008 I guess, sending this in 2017 felt a little too late and lazy imo. It was pretty clear Greeks didn't want to win, yet they could have found better. The composer of the song may be a living legend with a long series of hits behind him - I don't know - all I assume is his talent didn't really show through in this effort tbh. I won't linger over the offending lyrics whose sole purpose was to give the singer something to sing: they were cliché, filled with poor rhymes and metaphors, and basically told nothing. Eurovision isn't a poetry contest and I sometimes can overlook bad lyrics if the music makes up for it, but that's sadly not the case here. It began with a sound reminding me a horn, I'm not sure what it was exactly; then the first verse featured a piano, a background synth, strings, an electro beat (later on) and Demy's voice. Actually - despite being relatively anonymous - I enjoyed the melody there (for what is was): it was melodious and flowed nicely, shame the arrangements were very cheap and Eurovisiony. The worst part though is the chorus with its overly plain melody and dance-y instrumentation and break: who hasn't heard that zillions times already? It reminded me of the nightmare the mainstream pop scene was when EDM was trendy, yuck. The second verse featured added drums and synth, giving a bit more life to the composition, I really think they should have kept the verses only and built something else from there. The nice surprise to me was the bridge with its unexpected horn sounds and strings, which departed from the typical europop vibe this song has. The song ended with a third chorus and the sentence "this is love". To me "This Is Love" is the uptempo equivalent of "On My Way": both brought a style that has aged really badly in my opinion, the music was as generic and Eurovisiony as possible, and the lyrics were really not up to the standard I can bear. The only thing I save is the melody of the verses, which would have deserved more than a cheap setting. I would take "Rise Up" (2014) over this anytime tbh. Pros: the pleasant enough melody of the verses. Cons: cheap arrangements, uninspired chorus, generic lyrics, the EDM breaks, too Eurovisiony-sounding.

    As I said, the only parts I do enjoy are the verses, so those would be my highlights here.

    -Vocally, Demy was a so-so performer to me. Her vocal tone was rather clear and acceptable, despite not being that special. I thought her performances were okay-ish, nothing really bad, but nothing really great either to say about it. Apparently, it wasn't she who hit the "high" note of the chorus: then why not have adapted the song to her vocal range? She's not the only one in that case, but I'll never understand the point of not being honest in this regard: not everyone sings high notes and that's okay. It's a shame because she seemed relatively at ease during the verses, a lower key for the chorus wouldn't have killed the song.

    -Visually, Greeks apparently had big plans which couldn't be achieved in Kiev (Austria also had that issue) and I guess it showed because their plan B was lacklustre to me. The performance began with Demy singing on a platform in front of a blue starry sky (one day someone should try counting how many stagings have featured that in Eurovision history ), which quickly turned into rain and raindrops making ripples on water. During the chorus, the background turned black and red with white sparks, and then progressively featured golden drops (?) while the platform Demy was standing on rose. Two shirtless male dancers wearing tight white shorts (and apparently representing swans according to Demy) appeared next to her. During the second chorus, we got back to the blue shade: the dancers performed a choreography in a pond (or basin?) while fake splashes were simultaneously displayed on screen. The second chorus featured water current-like holograms, which then showed Demy's silhouette in water during the bridge. Fashion-wise, Demy wore a nude long split dress. She looked good. Overall though, the stage looked empty and there was nothing special to watch throughout the performance imo. It was basic and forgettable, like the song. Greeks did better in the past.

    -Results-wise, I wished Greece would fail to qualify but it takes a lot for them to achieve that. 19th place in the final was definitely an amazing feat given the whole package, and seeing it surpass "Requiem" by 3pts in the juries' ranking was... GURL BYE! Personally, I think this song deserved to crash and burn in the first semi since it was just a mix of uninteresting elements imo: Poland, Israel and Germany deserved to be higher than Greece in the final. As for the controversy surrounding the exchange of points between Greek and Cypriot juries, it was simply scandalous to me: juries were alledgedly brought back to help counteract/balance televoting biases, but the truth is they didn't care this year and voted like people did. I'm not saying Cypriot juries (for instance) shouldn't be allowed to give their twelve points to Greece, it's just that it seemed very questionable to me that - from a professional, musical and artistical point of view - they were coincidentally the only ones to think Greece was the best act in the final. The whole jury voting was awful anyway. In my personal ranking, "This Is Love" is in the lower half of my mediocre section (30th-35th places). See you next guys, I don't want to hold my breath for Lisbon, but I'm always open for a surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuorem View Post
    As for the controversy surrounding the exchange of points between Greek and Cypriot juries, it was simply scandalous to me: juries were alledgedly brought back to help counteract/balance televoting biases, but the truth is they didn't care this year and voted like people did. I'm not saying Cypriot juries (for instance) shouldn't be allowed to give their twelve points to Greece, it's just that it seemed very questionable to me that - from a professional, musical and artistical point of view - they were coincidentally the only ones to think Greece was the best act in the final.
    I have to disagree.
    First Montenegro also gave 12 Points to Greece and Armenia at least 10. So the Cyprish Jury was not the only one who celebrated Demy. And the Next is, that Demy is very successful in Cyprus which might influence the Juryvoting. And as i mentioned before, cyprish and greek Juries dont usually exchange 12 Points, like the last 2 years proved. And the next is i think that it is alright if the Juries voted (nearly) like the Televoter, cause if not, we have the same case like Poland 14/16 or Italy 15 etc.. which will lead to more complaining.

    And i have to disagree that Levina was better than Demy of Course

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