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    Best non-English language entry 1999-2014 QF 1 is up, vote until 02/11 @ 17 CET

    I've been wanting to host a contest for a while. Initially my idea was to do this in a "Best song in language X" format but then I came to the conclusion that this would only be possible with a handful of countries or so. Not to mention that the contest in English language would make the others look so small in comparison.

    So instead I worked on the idea and decided to simplify it. I'd like to see us determining which has been the best non-English language song ever since the pre-1999 restriction of having to sing in your own language has been lifted. I've been compiling a list of such entries with the help of wikipedia. Now here's the thing though. I've been very literal about the languages that are listed there for songs. This might make it seem unfair to songs that are performed mostly in a non-English language but that have single line in English and are therefore being left out of this contest. I found a way to make it fair however, we can be hosting a "Best mixed with English" contest right after this one comes to an end And then we could always do the English one if it is wanted, though that would be a massive one. We could even do retro editions if there's enough people interested in taking part in those. We'll see how this develops and come back to that later.

    So here's how I've structured the contest: 142 songs that feature no English will be competing for the honor of best non-English entry that has been performed during these past 15 years. There will be 4 stages: 7 eight-finals composed by 20 songs each (21 for the 4th and the last one) with 10 going through, 4 quarter-finals with again 20 songs competing in each and 10 going through (this means that from eights to quarters 10 songs that did not qualify will need to be added. I'm not sure of how I'm doing this yet. If with a second chance round, giving away wildcards to participating users or just picking the 10 songs that had the most points just outside the qualifying spots. I'll decide after we're done with the EF's), then 2 semi-finals with 20 songs each and 10 going through and finally the grand finale with 20 songs fighting for the win. I've grouped the eight-final rosters by proximity of year performance. I'm not sure if that's the best way to go, but it feels like it, it would feel extremely unfair to have a 1999 song competing with a 2014 song Most people who take part in these games haven't followed ESC for that long, so it's simply what makes the most sense to me. We can discuss this though.

    I'm not good with banners and I also have no idea how to do recaps. If anyone can help me with that to make the presentation of the game look better and for the overall experience to be richer, I'd highly appreciate that. Otherwise just expect something in EYCC style but without the recaps Links to the songs only it will have to be.

    Here is the initial roster for the 7 eight-finals:

    Portugal 2014
    Montenegro 2014
    Italy 2014
    France 2014
    Estonia 2013
    Croatia 2013
    Montenegro 2013
    Moldova 2013
    Cyprus 2013
    Serbia 2013
    San Marino 2013
    Macedonia 2013
    Bulgaria 2013
    Iceland 2013
    Greece 2013
    Israel 2013
    Hungary 2013
    Albania 2013
    France 2013
    Spain 2013

    Italy 2013
    Albania 2012
    Finland 2012
    Austria 2012
    Serbia 2012
    Macedonia 2012
    Portugal 2012
    Bulgaria 2012
    Slovenia 2012
    Croatia 2012
    Estonia 2012
    Bosnia 2012
    Spain 2012
    Poland 2011
    Serbia 2011
    Portugal 2011
    Cyprus 2011
    Bulgaria 2011
    France 2011
    Spain 2011

    Slovakia 2010
    Finland 2010
    Serbia 2010
    Greece 2010
    Portugal 2010
    Macedonia 2010
    Israel 2010
    Switzerland 2010
    Netherlands 2010
    Slovenia 2010
    Croatia 2010
    Spain 2010
    France 2010
    Macedonia 2009
    Portugal 2009
    Bosnia 2009
    Croatia 2009
    Latvia 2009
    Serbia 2009
    Slovakia 2009

    Estonia 2009
    France 2009
    Russia 2009
    Montenegro 2008
    Estonia 2008
    San Marino 2008
    Belgium 2008
    Slovenia 2008
    Bosnia 2008
    Finland 2008
    Romania 2008
    Turkey 2008
    Albania 2008
    Switzerland 2008
    Croatia 2008
    Cyprus 2008
    Portugal 2008
    Serbia 2008
    Bulgaria 2007
    Cyprus 2007
    Montenegro 2007

    Serbia 2007
    Czech Republic 2007
    Slovenia 2007
    Latvia 2007
    Bosnia 2007
    Andorra 2006
    Albania 2006
    Monaco 2006
    Bosnia 2006
    Norway 2006
    Spain 2006
    France 2006
    Croatia 2006
    Monaco 2005
    Belgium 2005
    Hungary 2005
    Andorra 2005
    Croatia 2005
    Slovenia 2005
    Poland 2005

    Turkey 2005
    Spain 2005
    Serbia and Montenegro 2005
    France 2005
    Latvia 2004
    Andorra 2004
    Portugal 2004
    Monaco 2004
    Estonia 2004
    Serbia and Montenegro 2004
    Spain 2004
    Austria 2004
    France 2004
    Austria 2003
    Russia 2003
    Spain 2003
    Israel 2003
    France 2003
    Poland 2003
    Belgium 2003

    Macedonia 2002
    Switzerland 2002
    France 2002
    Slovenia 2002
    Israel 2001
    Portugal 2001
    Spain 2001
    Belgium 2000
    Cyprus 2000
    Spain 2000
    Switzerland 2000
    Croatia 2000
    Lithuania 1999
    Spain 1999
    Croatia 1999
    Turkey 1999
    France 1999
    Poland 1999
    Cyprus 1999
    Portugal 1999
    Bosnia 1999

    If you notice that I have forgotten some song or added some incorrectly, please let me know. I think that I was pretty thorough but feel free to give it another look by yourself if you want. I'll leave this thread open for 24 hours so that format, entries and whatever else needs to be discussed can be done. Should no substantial objections arise, we'll kick off with the first eight-final on Thursday then Votes will be collected through ScoreWiz, please only vote by PM in last case scenario. Hope we'll be having fun with this

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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014

    This sounds like a great idea, I will vote!
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    Yeah ! Great !
    I thought it would be a great idea but i have no time to hold such a game !
    I'm glad you take the challenge !
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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014

    Great game but surely Serbia is winner! Only it is question which song: 2004, 2007, 2008. I hope 2007!
    But great idea for the game! Love it! I would like more if "mixed" songs are included but ok...

    Also, I will gladly help you with the game since October (when I'm back)!
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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014

    Thanks to everyone for the positive feedback so far

    I thought it would have become too big if I had included "mixed songs" but now that you make me think about it again...perhaps it would have been the most fair thing to do in terms of size, if we are holding the competition for songs in English as well after all. But that will depend on level of adherence and I can't know that yet, so let's have it this way for now. Maybe we can even do a combo edition later

    And thank you @Hele. I'd love it if you had some banners/recap tutorial written somewhere. Or anybody else. Otherwise it'll really have to be as I said, which is a bit of a shame...but can only blame myself for not being crafty in those areas But at least in October it'll start getting that special touch then Maybe I can convince myself to check if there is some recaps tutorial in the web tomorrow before kicking off the first eight-final..

    We're kicking off tomorrow afternoon with the first EF then if the current format is really okay with everyone. Just needed some feedback and evaluation period before starting You can still make your suggestions until tomorrow, I will be taking them into account, should there be any.

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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Hele. View Post
    Great game but surely Serbia is winner! Only it is question which song:
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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014

    Time for the first eight-final then. 10 out of 20 of these songs will be making it through the quarter-finals, but which? You hold the power in your hands, so vote!

    1 - 2014 Suzy - Quero ser tua
    2 - 2014 Sergej Ćetković - Moj svijet
    3 - 2014 Emma - La mia citt
    4 - 2014 Twin Twin - Moustache
    5 - 2013 Birgit - Et uus saaks alguse
    6 - 2013 Klapa s mora - Mižerja
    7 - 2013 Who See - Igranka
    8 - 2013 Aliona Moon - O mie
    9 - 2013 Despina Olympiou - An me thimasai
    10 - 2013 Moje 3 - Ljubav je svuda
    11 - 2013 Valentina Monetta - Crisalide (vola)
    12 - 2013 Esma & Lozano - Pred da se razdeni
    13 - 2013 Elitsa Todorova and Stoyan Yankulov - Samo shampioni
    14 - 2013 Eythor Ingi - g lf
    15 - 2013 Koza Mostra feat. Agathon Iakovidis - Alcohol is free
    16 - 2013 Moran Mazor - Rak bishvilo
    17 - 2013 ByeAlex - Kedvesem (Zoohacker Remix)
    18 - 2013 Adrian Lulgjuraj and Bledar Sejko - Identitet
    19 - 2013 Amandine Bourgeois - L'enfer et moi
    20 - 2013 ESDM - Contigo hasta el final

    You can vote here until monday 18 CET. Please only send me the votes through PM if you are experiencing problems with scorewiz.
    Over 3 days seems like fair pace for voting to me, but fear not writing something down if you think that more time should be given.
    If you detect any typo and wrong linking up there, let me know.

    It does feel a bit unfair that song from last year is taking part here at this contest and not at the mixed one, since when we reminisce about the song it is that chorus in English that comes to everyone's minds. The rest of the song is entirely in Greek though. I'm not sure why wikipedia doesn't list English in languages alongside it, but like I said, I just went along with was there very literally and so this will have to stand now.

    Unfortunately I couldn't find a tutorial about how to make recaps. Maybe I "DIY" on my own tomorrow if I find the time for that.

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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014 Eight-final 1 up, DDL 15/9 @ 18 CET

    Voted!
    I love 7 songs in this group, was harder to decide points from 3 to 1
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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014 Eight-final 1 up, DDL 15/9 @ 18 CET

    voted!

    My top5 from 2013 consists of
    So this was by far the hardest semi final of the game
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    Re: Best non-English language entry 1999-2014 Eight-final 1 up, DDL 15/9 @ 18 CET

    Voted! It was easy to choose the songs, but the order was a bit harder!
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