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  1. Ninja
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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    I still think Denmark made a Germany 2011

    240 televoting with some eastern europe countries ignoring it and 180-200 with juries.

    The 1-26 playing in its favor and making it much more convincing win.

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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    Quote Originally Posted by nniehiels View Post
    Football clubs don't represent their country, they just represent themselves. National teams DO represent their country and, wait, there's only players from that country.

    I really don't mind if they buy anything really. I do applaud it though if they use writers/producers etc. from their own country.
    Same here, lucian-crusher, you can´t compare football and ESC, it´s two different things

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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    Quote Originally Posted by Pawhlen View Post
    Same here, lucian-crusher, you can´t compare football and ESC, it´s two different things
    The point is that this is a Contest and the main purpose should be wininng and not promoting your music. That should be on the second plan

    And btw, when Stefan Naftanaila was questioned after he gave 0 points to Luminita Anghel in the Romanian NF this year and he said he liked the song and the performance but he gave it 0 because he didn't want a foreign composer to represent , TVR and the press said that is not a good reason and he is banned from the jury from now on
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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    Quote Originally Posted by lucian-crusher View Post
    The point is that this is a Contest and the main purpose should be wininng and not promoting your music. That should be on the second plan

    And btw, when Stefan Naftanaila was questioned after he gave 0 points to Luminita Anghel in the Romanian NF this year and he said he liked the song and the performance but he gave it 0 because he didn't want a foreign composer to represent , TVR and the press said that is not a good reason and he is banned from the jury from now one
    And?

    You´re still not get my point, would you be proud if your country wins ESC with a non-Romanian singer/group and non-Romanian songwriters? I wouldn´t, in that case we can just call it Europe Song Contest and remove the country connection
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pawhlen View Post
    And?

    You´re still not get my point, would you be proud if your country wins ESC with a non-Romanian singer/group and non-Romanian songwriters? I wouldn´t, in that case we can just call it Europe Song Contest and remove the country connection
    I do get your point. But as long as the EBU rules permit foreign artists and composers to represent countries than it's ok. As I said about Qatar taking part. If the EBU rules permit it then let them, if not then don't. EBU knows betther than us.

    YES! I would be very proud! I want my country to win not because it would be a recognition of something but because it would give my country the right to host the contest and for me to see it live!
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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    Going back through the data, I decided to rank the 13 non-qualifiers as well. These stats are quite interesting (the top-ranked countries of each side are shaded in green):

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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    Not sure if this has been posted but the British Jury results have been revealed. I put the point they received overall

    Semi 1

    1. Russia (10)
    2. Austria (1)
    3. Denmark (12)
    4. Estonia (4)
    5. Belgium (5)
    6. Netherlands (8)
    7. Moldova
    8. Belarus
    9. Ukraine (2)
    10. Ireland (6)
    11. Lithuania (7)
    12. Slovenia
    13. Cyprus (3)
    14. Serbia
    15. Croatia
    16. Montenegro

    Final
    1. Russia (10)
    2. Belgium (3)
    3. Denmark (12)
    4. Estonia
    5. Ukraine (5)
    6. Netherlands (6)
    7. Georgia
    8. Belarus
    9. Azerbaijan
    10. Iceland (2)
    11. Moldova
    12. Malta (7)
    13. Greece (8)
    14. France
    15. Armenia
    16. Romania (4)
    17. Italy
    18. Germany
    19. Sweden
    20. Hungary
    21. Norway
    22. Ireland (1)
    23. Finland
    24. Lithuania
    25. Spain

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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    Quote Originally Posted by THE BIG TOURNAMENT View Post
    Not sure if this has been posted but the British Jury results have been revealed. I put the point they received overall

    Semi 1

    1. Russia (10)
    2. Austria (1)
    3. Denmark (12)
    4. Estonia (4)
    5. Belgium (5)
    6. Netherlands (8)
    7. Moldova
    8. Belarus
    9. Ukraine (2)
    10. Ireland (6)
    11. Lithuania (7)
    12. Slovenia
    13. Cyprus (3)
    14. Serbia
    15. Croatia
    16. Montenegro

    Final
    1. Russia (10)
    2. Belgium (3)
    3. Denmark (12)
    4. Estonia
    5. Ukraine (5)
    6. Netherlands (6)
    7. Georgia
    8. Belarus
    9. Azerbaijan
    10. Iceland (2)
    11. Moldova
    12. Malta (7)
    13. Greece (8)
    14. France
    15. Armenia
    16. Romania (4)
    17. Italy
    18. Germany
    19. Sweden
    20. Hungary
    21. Norway
    22. Ireland (1)
    23. Finland
    24. Lithuania
    25. Spain
    Wow, the UK jury vote is disgusting! (Russia isn't to my taste, but sort of understandable. Belarus??? Estonia also did incredibly well in the jury vote, but must have done pretty badly in the public vote to come under Ireland (in the bottom 7).
    Ireland probably topped the public vote. Greece, Malta and Romania also probably did well.

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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    Current 'jury' standings – Final (40/195):

    01. Sweden 54
    02. Belgium 45
    03. Norway 44
    04. Russia 41
    05. Netherlands 40
    06. Denmark 36
    07. Moldova 28
    08. Malta 23
    09. Ukraine 20
    10. Greece 20
    11. France 19
    12. Hungary 19
    13. Italy 15
    14. Azerbaijan 13
    15. Estonia 11
    16. United Kingdom 8
    17. Iceland 8
    18. Finland 8
    19. Georgia 4
    20. Armenia 3
    21. Belarus 3
    22. Romania 2
    23. Lithuania 0
    23. Spain 0
    23. Germany 0
    23. Ireland 0

    Votes from 'jurors' sent by the following broadcasters: SMRTV; SVT; TROS; BBC; NRK; NDR; DR; RTV Slovenija
    The unconfirmed Romanian 'jury' votes are not included.


    Voting grid (Scorewiz)

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    Re: Split results Televotings & 'Jury'

    The uk jury votes were just as I expected although somewhat even more disturbing.. Russia 1st, Belgium 2nd!?!?!?!?!? And Belarus managed the top 10 yet Norway (as I predicted) unfairly finishes outside the the top 20 at 21. I'm pretty darn sure we gave Norway some points but we'll never know as there's not 100% transparency.

    Seriously the second thing they need to do next year is to return to the old way of determining points.. the first thing they must do is go back to a random running order
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