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Mickey
13th August 2012, 20:01
It's back! After a successful first run, it's time for the second season of Eurovision Champions' League. The aim of this game is to determine which country has performed best overall at Eurovision since 2004. To enter, a country must have submitted a song every year from 2004 to 2012 and at least one of those must have finished in the top two. This year that gives us the following teams.

::fi Finland
::de Germany
::gr Greece
::is Iceland
::mt Malta
::no Norway
::ru Russia
::rs ::cs Serbia/Serbia and Montenegro*
::se Sweden
::tr Turkey (ELIMINATED)
::ua Ukraine

*Serbia and Montenegro weren't at Eurovision in 2006, but they did select an entry before withdrawing, so Moja Ljubavi by No Name will be their 2006 entry for the purpose of this game.

RULES OF THE GAME
After a qualifying round to cut the field down to ten teams, everyone will face each other in a league format. The winner of the league stage will progress direct to the final where they will play the winner of a semi between 2nd and 3rd. For more detail, open the spoiler box.


The League Stage
These countries will take part in a ten-team league stage. They will be randomly paired up over 9 weekly rounds, each one representing a year of Eurovision. We then vote for which country in each pair submitted the better song that year.

The results contribute to a league table. For winning a head-to-head match, a country will get 2 points. They'll get 1 point for a draw and none for a defeat. If teams are tied on points, the tiebreak will be the average percentage of votes gained. The league winner will progress direct to the grand final, where they will be joined by the winner of a semi between 2nd and 3rd.

Now, the eagle-eyed amongst you will have noticed there is one team too many in the list above. To whittle down 11 teams to 10, there will be a qualification knockout round between the bottom two from last year – Norway and Turkey.

Knockout Round Rules (pre-qualifier, semi and final)
In a knockout round, two countries will go head to head. This will work by pairing up their nine entries against each other and we'll vote for winners in each match. The countries' top songs (i.e best placed at ESC) will compete against each other in the ninth match. The rest of the songs will be paired up randomly, except no two songs from the same year will face off.

The winning country will be the one to win the most of the nine matches. In the event of a tie, the winner will be the country with the most votes. If it is still tied, the winner will be the country more voters picked as their overall winner. If it is still tied after that, the preceding league positions will determine the overall winner.


Final league table

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/table9.png

Semi results

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/semifulltop.png
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/semifullbottom.png


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/Grandfinal.png

These our your songs for the grand final. The winning country will be the one to win the most of the nine matches. In the event of a tie, the winner will be the country with the most votes. If it is still tied, the winner will be the country more voters picked as their overall winner. If it is still tied after that, the final league positions will determine the overall winner (i.e. Sweden wins).

Please vote for your favourite from each pairing by sending me a PM (DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR!). You are allowed to vote for your own country.

Voting will be open until 7pm CET (6pm UK time) next Sunday.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2009.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrJ_nvK6H_w) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJ39wUg0cc)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2005.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xifUo-4ZhMc) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apc_qJf3nws)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHT2TOeH5k4) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2005.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inLiZ3Bdbeg)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQJ-GYLD9Ys) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2010.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vM7XAM6fzo)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2010.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH5cowCvCX4) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cik9WOwF4SI)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab6iJLaC3ao) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2007.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_wYnh5a4Qk)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2007.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTgPtyC6FSM) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JOAey7qfos)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9whldXx42U4) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkSz2-gu9M)

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqYtlpZ-9N4) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2009.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOB_yzC2f_A)

Mickey
13th August 2012, 20:06
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/ESCCL2Qualifier.png

These our your songs for the qualifier. The winning country will be the one to win the most of the nine matches. In the event of a tie, the winner will be the country with the most votes. If it is still tied, the winner will be the country more voters picked as their overall winner. If it is still tied after that, the final league positions from last year will determine the overall winner (i.e. Norway wins).

Please vote for your favourite from each pairing by sending me a PM (DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR!). You are allowed to vote for your own country.

Voting will be open until 7pm CET (6pm UK time) Monday 20th August.

Click on the flags to listen to the songs.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbPbut-Z-g) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qa7_y21oOY)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-NywwY4mg) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kva951_ov0s)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2007.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcjf_25QjZY) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2005.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzDbtWMQfug&feature=plcp)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZaxIY1VAbM) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2007.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aq0W0lbBHEs)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDNgXxiZ8fE) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaqE-f6niMM)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2010.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3KlbuVZGJw) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2009.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7JbeeuEWrA)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzyl1NiQkQM) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjAhNI9smVo)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2005.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUnoKY_VJK0) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYNToLpQhgE)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2009.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiH4BFTELME) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Turkey2010.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufYXChmZDJo&NR=1)

AdelAdel
13th August 2012, 21:33
Wow, each round will take 7 days? That's a lot of time!

Mickey
13th August 2012, 21:37
Yeah, I'm old school, I guess. A year ago this was normal.

AdelAdel
13th August 2012, 21:39
Yeah, I'm old school, I guess. A year ago this was normal.

But I think it's a bit too much, imo. The time for voting in the other times was usually 2 days...

Mickey
13th August 2012, 21:55
Just had a look at Reggie's Idealvision game and Salmon's yea or nea from last year. Both week-long voting windows. I think it was the Big Tournament, with it's massive number of groups that brought two day turnovers into vogue.

I'll see how it goes. Might shorten a bit, but not to two days. The game would be done in 3 and a half weeks.

AdelAdel
13th August 2012, 21:59
Not only the BT, also the 21st century eurovision and best song from 2010-2012 were 2 days for voting.
And the 10-12 game ended about like this, or even quicker.

I don't know, just suggesting stuff.

Jim
13th August 2012, 22:09
Just voted for the first time! It's a good Game!

Mickey
13th August 2012, 22:35
Thanks Jim, Sim and ESCGeek for your votes.

EurovisionSmile
13th August 2012, 22:40
It seems interesting and I'll take part in this contest :mrgreen: Does it involve songs from the 00's-10's only? :rolleyes:

Mickey
13th August 2012, 23:12
It seems interesting and I'll take part in this contest :mrgreen: Does it involve songs from the 00's-10's only? :rolleyes:

Yeah, 2004-12. Otherwise we couldn't use the likes of Serbia, Finland and Ukraine.

It would be great to go back further, but the old relegation rule makes it a pain to find ever-present countries.

CPV4931
14th August 2012, 00:11
voted for the first match... sometimes the winner was very hard to decide :)

Mickey
14th August 2012, 00:54
voted for the first match... sometimes the winner was very hard to decide :)

Which ones? I found Guri Schanke vs Gulseren (both bad) and Stella vs Athena difficult. I've grown to like Haba Haba a lot recently.

CPV4931
14th August 2012, 02:24
Which ones? I found Guri Schanke vs Gulseren (both bad) and Stella vs Athena difficult. I've grown to like Haba Haba a lot recently.

Alexander Rybak vs. Manga - both the best entries of both countries in the last 10 years imo.
Wig Wam vs. Yüksek Sadakat - I´m a fan of rock-entries @ESC and like both songs
Stella Mwangi vs. Athena - On the one hand I really loved "Haba Haba", when I listened to it the first few times, but already before ESC 2011 I didn´t like it that much. But on the other hand, "For real" is still a grower for me. I didn´t like it at the beginning but through the years, it became one of my favorite Turkish entries.

EurovisionSmile
14th August 2012, 03:46
Yeah, 2004-12. Otherwise we couldn't use the likes of Serbia, Finland and Ukraine.

It would be great to go back further, but the old relegation rule makes it a pain to find ever-present countries.

Ok :) I understand that, of course. I'll take part in this game, anyway, and I like its concept a lot. ;)

Anastasia15
14th August 2012, 10:03
Voted

Mickey
14th August 2012, 21:19
Confirming votes from martin, CPV4931, AdelAdel, Anastasia15, Steffan and Arv.

Ten voters in and it's really really close. Won't comment on the individual matches, but overall, the countries are currently tied on match wins.

EscGeek
14th August 2012, 21:42
Ten voters in and it's really really close. Won't comment on the individual matches, but overall, the countries are currently tied on match wins.
wtf? Turkey is waaaaay better than Norway!:mrgreen:

EurovisionSmile
14th August 2012, 22:04
Voted! :D

Mickey
14th August 2012, 23:53
Voted! :D

Indeed you did. Thanks!

Steffan
16th August 2012, 16:33
How's it going :D

Mickey
17th August 2012, 20:18
How's it going :D
Still too close to call.

Got 14 votes now. If anyone else is thinking of voting, your votes will be crucial to the result.

About to draw the fixture list for the league stage now. It'll be top secret for you lot, but I'm really excited!

TheLuflee
18th August 2012, 00:41
Voted xcheer

6 x ::no
3 x ::tr
:shock:

EscGeek
18th August 2012, 01:11
Voted xcheer

6 x ::no
3 x ::tr
:shock:

me:
7x ::tr
2x ::no
xrollinglol

daniels1000
18th August 2012, 17:00
Voted :D

Mickey
18th August 2012, 17:53
Voted :D

Counted. Thanks!

Jim
18th August 2012, 21:38
Mickey, when will you reveal the results?

EurovisionSmile
18th August 2012, 22:10
me:
7x ::tr
2x ::no
xrollinglol

Not shocking :lol:

Me:

::no x 5

::tr x 4

But I had to choose from 2 songs I really, really love. :(

daniels1000
18th August 2012, 22:31
Not shocking :lol:

Me:

::no x 5

::tr x 4

But I had to choose from 2 songs I really, really love. :(

Totally the same :o :o :D

And I also had to choose between 2 songs which I really love

Mickey
19th August 2012, 13:24
Mickey, when will you reveal the results?

Tomorrow.

Hele.
19th August 2012, 14:45
me:
7x ::tr
2x ::no
xrollinglol

And me vice version! xrollinglol

Nike
19th August 2012, 17:49
Mickey,


How can I PM my votes to you???

I don't know to how PM someone in this forum. I tried to PM you but that was only a reply on this thread.

EurovisionSmile
19th August 2012, 17:52
I suppose you did, yeah, but I think it was meant to be sent in a PM and not posted in the thread xrollinglol:mrgreen:

Nike
19th August 2012, 17:54
I suppose you did, yeah, but I think it was meant to be sent in a PM and not posted in the thread xrollinglol:mrgreen: Yes I wanted to PM!! But I don't know how to do that.

EurovisionSmile
19th August 2012, 17:57
Yes I wanted to PM!! But I don't know how to do that.

Ok, go to your inbox and choose the item 'send new message'. Then you write in the recipient's place 'Mickey', send your votes and it's done ;) ;)

EurovisionSmile
19th August 2012, 17:59
To go to your inbox click on 'notifications' above :p

Nike
19th August 2012, 18:02
Ok, go to your inbox and choose the item 'send new message'. Then you write in the recipient's place 'Mickey', send your votes and it's done ;) ;)

Thanks I have done that now. But how do I know if Mickey got it??? There were no "message was sent" or something like that.

Mickey if please confirm if you got my votes.

EurovisionSmile
19th August 2012, 18:04
He confirms all the votes in this thread, don't worry. Now, if I were you I would delete your post with the votes. :mrgreen: click on 'edit' and delete them. :p You can write something else instead, like 'voted' or something like that ;)

Nike
19th August 2012, 18:17
He confirms all the votes in this thread, don't worry. Now, if I were you I would delete your post with the votes. :mrgreen: click on 'edit' and delete them. :p You can write something else instead, like 'voted' or something like that ;)


That post is already changed. :)

EurovisionSmile
19th August 2012, 18:21
That post is already changed. :)

Great then :D :D

daniels1000
19th August 2012, 18:32
Thanks I have done that now. But how do I know if Mickey got it??? There were no "message was sent" or something like that.

Mickey if please confirm if you got my votes.

You can go to section "Sent items" in your inbox,and if that message is listed there,your message has been sent. :D ( at least I think)

Nike
19th August 2012, 18:54
You can go to section "Sent items" in your inbox,and if that message is listed there,your message has been sent. :D ( at least I think)


I did as you said. But my message to Mickey wasn't in "sent items". Do this mean it wasn't sent to him? :(

daniels1000
19th August 2012, 19:14
I did as you said. But my message to Mickey wasn't in "sent items". Do this mean it wasn't sent to him? :(

If you didn't delete it,probably it wasn't sent,yes.:?

Mickey
19th August 2012, 21:40
Got your vote Nike. Thanks!

Also, sent items only keeps your messages if you set it up to do so in the settings or something.

Nike
19th August 2012, 22:50
Got your vote Nike. Thanks!

Also, sent items only keeps your messages if you set it up to do so in the settings or something.

That's great!! :)

EurovisionSmile
19th August 2012, 22:56
I did as you said. But my message to Mickey wasn't in "sent items". Do this mean it wasn't sent to him? :(

Did you change that in the settings? You only keep the sent items if you set it to be that way, otherwise it won't happen. :?

Mickey
19th August 2012, 23:07
While we're sorting out people's tech problems, anyone know if there's something I can do to get the first post at the top of each page? Would be handy if I could start putting the matches there.

Hele.
19th August 2012, 23:09
While we're sorting out people's tech problems, anyone know if there's something I can do to get the first post at the top of each page? Would be handy if I could start putting the matches there.

Ask some of moderators to do that. ;)

Mickey
19th August 2012, 23:18
Ask some of moderators to do that. ;)

Thanks.

Mickey
20th August 2012, 20:01
Time's up. Results in a sec.

Mickey
20th August 2012, 20:14
Actually, just had a thought. It might be more fun to reveal each match result one by one. Then everyone can come and watch the scores come through.

So, the results show will start at 8.30pm cet.

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 20:18
Hooray! So we will have some show tonight after all :D

Mickey
20th August 2012, 21:29
Right. All present and correct?

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 21:32
Right. All present and correct?

Everyone is at the worldvision thing, so I don't know if you'll have a big audience xrofl2

Mickey
20th August 2012, 21:34
Screw it. Just do it all in one go then.

LakZaNokte
20th August 2012, 21:35
I'm here xbow

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 21:36
Screw it. Just do it all in one go then.

Okay :mrgreen:

Nike
20th August 2012, 21:43
I'm here and waiting for the results to 21.00 CET!! I will watch the first part of the new Dallas. After that I coming back. :)

Mickey
20th August 2012, 21:46
So who is it. Norway or Turkey? Turkey or Norway?

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Qualresultstop.png
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Qualresultsbottom.png

Norway wins!

After about the 8 voter mark someone started to pull away in each of the matches, except for one. With the others all clearly going to win each country 4 matches each, it was down down to Alexander Rybak and maNga to decided the winner. 5 votes all, 6 votes all, 7 votes all, 8 votes all. Finally, Norway took the last two votes to give them a place in the league stage.

I'll launch the first league round a bit later tonight. Enjoy Worldvision in the meantime.

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 21:50
Not good results for me :?

Jim
20th August 2012, 21:55
I like the results except Sibel Tuzun & Hadise...

Nike
20th August 2012, 21:55
Interesting results. The most of them are expected for me. But damn the the Rybak/maNga result was so close. Why that? Rybak is miles better than maNga.

EurovisionSmile
20th August 2012, 21:56
maNga is much better than Rybak xrofl2 and I was so sad I couldn't vote for 'Deli' xcry1 and annoyed I had 2 average songs to choose one from match 2 :? 'Deli' should have been there instead of the other entry I guess. But I'm glad with the overall results. :p :D

daniels1000
20th August 2012, 21:58
::no xcheer

All my favourites won :o :o :D

LakZaNokte
20th August 2012, 22:05
I lost only 1 duel (Tooji lost) but that 1 wasn't so important anyway for me :D

EscGeek
20th August 2012, 22:06
Turkey is better ESC country than Norway!!! SOOC!


xsnooty

EurovisionSmile
20th August 2012, 22:07
I lost only 1 duel (Tooji lost) but that 1 wasn't so important anyway for me :D

I know, I think the same about that one, but I got it right xshrug

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 22:08
I can't believe people prefer Turkey 2009 instead of Norway 2010 :?

EurovisionSmile
20th August 2012, 22:08
I can't believe people prefer Turkey 2009 instead of Norway 2010 :?

Go figure... :? :?

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 22:09
Go figure... :? :?

Because Turkey was a dance song and Norway was a ballad? Pffffffff :?

EscGeek
20th August 2012, 22:10
Because Turkey was a dance song and Norway was a ballad? Pffffffff :?
no 8-)

LakZaNokte
20th August 2012, 22:11
I can't believe people prefer Turkey 2009 instead of Norway 2010 :?
I prefer a lot of songs over Norway 2010, tbh :|

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 22:12
no 8-)

Yeah I know, because the Turkish woman shook her bottom, and the Norwegian guy didn't, that's simple logic on your part xrofl2

EurovisionSmile
20th August 2012, 22:13
Norway 2010 doesn't mean anything to me, but I thought you were talking about Turkey 2010, I wasn't being ironic, only kinda clumsy :lol: (no comments...) That's the shocking match to me xrofl2

EurovisionSmile
20th August 2012, 22:15
I prefer a lot of songs over Norway 2010, tbh :|

I can't see anything nice about that song xshrug

LakZaNokte
20th August 2012, 22:26
I can't see anything nice about that song xshrug
me either. it's not even mediocre imo (sorry Adel :()

Mickey
20th August 2012, 23:18
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/ECL2Gameweek1.png

These our your songs for round 1 of the league stage. Please vote for your favourite from each pairing by sending me a PM (DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR!). You are allowed to vote for your own country.

Voting will be open until 7pm CET (6pm UK time) on Saturday 25 August.

Click on the flags to watch the videos.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Finland2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fj9of4IzFU) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Serbia2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Id6BuMslI8g)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Germany2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zb2ndWnKeU) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHT2TOeH5k4)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Greece2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgBrcgeBHj0) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Malta2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9YRL_pHxvU)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apc_qJf3nws) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Russia2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-3ohaRN3MM)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Ukraine2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD6SHhUwepU) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2011.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl-NywwY4mg)

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 23:21
I don't understand something, what is the format now? Aren't we supposed to confront 2 countries again?

Mickey
20th August 2012, 23:32
No, that's just for the knockout matches.

In the league stage, each round represents a year and the ten songs for that year get paired up. Over the nine years the game covers, every team will face every other team.

For each match win, the country gets two points. For each draw they get one point. Losers get nothing.

AdelAdel
20th August 2012, 23:37
But why won't we have consecutive knockout matches first?

CPV4931
21st August 2012, 00:08
voted

EscGeek
21st August 2012, 00:27
voted

Mickey
21st August 2012, 00:37
But why won't we have consecutive knockout matches first?

The reason we had a knockout match was because 11 countries fulfilled the criteria for entry to the game. There was only room for 10 in the league stage. Turkey and Norway were the bottom two last year, so they had to pre-qualify this time.

AdelAdel
21st August 2012, 00:39
The reason we had a knockout match was because 11 countries fulfilled the criteria for entry to the game. There was only room for 10 in the league stage. Turkey and Norway were the bottom two last year, so they had to pre-qualify this time.

Oh, I get it :D

Mickey
21st August 2012, 00:42
voted
voted
Counted. Thanks.

EurovisionSmile
21st August 2012, 00:42
Can't see any amazing songs there to vote for on the current matches of the league stage... :? :?

Nike
21st August 2012, 01:10
Voted! :)

Anastasia15
21st August 2012, 08:58
voted

Jim
21st August 2012, 21:39
Voted!

Arv
22nd August 2012, 18:52
Voted. Glad to see Norway as the 10th contestant ;)

Mickey
22nd August 2012, 20:44
I was out with my girlfriend last night, so a bit behind with counting votes.

Thanks to (deep breath) AdelAdel, Nike, Anastasia15, Steffan, LakZaNokte, Jim, as78, Arv and martin.

Keep 'em coming.

Mickey
23rd August 2012, 20:11
I can't update the game tomorrow night, so I'm giving you all an extra day to get your votes in. The deadline is now 7pm CET Saturday.

alca
23rd August 2012, 20:45
Voted!

EurovisionSmile
24th August 2012, 16:02
Voted! :D

Mickey
24th August 2012, 20:10
Voted! :D

Thanks Smiley. Was worried your dislike of the entries was going to stop you voting. For me, this round contains two of my faves from last year, although I think 2011 is a bit weird, as there are very few entries that are universally loved.

Anyway, everyone else has 24 hours. Now I'm going out partying. Bye.

EurovisionSmile
24th August 2012, 21:44
Thanks Smiley. Was worried your dislike of the entries was going to stop you voting. For me, this round contains two of my faves from last year, although I think 2011 is a bit weird, as there are very few entries that are universally loved.

Anyway, everyone else has 24 hours. Now I'm going out partying. Bye.

No, Mickey, I'll keep voting even when I don't like the songs :D Concerning these matches, I don't exactly dislike these songs, I just think most of them are average. No big faves here ;) :p

Mickey
25th August 2012, 20:01
You're out of time. Results to come soon.

Mickey
25th August 2012, 20:21
These are the results for 2011.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/2011results.png

The closest match was Germany v Sweden, where Eric took the last four votes to leapfrog Lena to victory. This makes me sad. Iceland also squeaked a win out in a close call with Russia, although there was no leapfrogging involved. One of the big winners were Greece. I don't think their 2011 entry is particularly good, but they've had amazing luck with their draws. Last year Stereo Mike had an easy win over Belgium and now they've beaten a poor Maltese song nowhere near as comprehensively as others might.

Here's the table.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/table1.png

Early days, but the lucky Greeks are top. After the glory of their qualifying win, Norway are back to more familiar Champions' league territory.

EurovisionSmile
25th August 2012, 20:25
I'm happy with the overall results. But I was expecting to 'da da dum' for a bit longer than this. :lol: xrofl2

EscGeek
25th August 2012, 21:08
hey,Adel... your votes are just like mine... :o xrofl

as78
25th August 2012, 22:03
The same votes as mine:

5/5 - EurovisionSmile
4/5 - Nike, Jim, Arv, alca
3/5 - LakZaNokte, Hele., EscGeek, AdelAdel, daniels1000
2/5 - martin
1/5 - Mickey, CPV4931, Steffan
0/5 - Anastasia15

Mickey
25th August 2012, 23:06
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/ECL2Gameweek2.png

These are your songs for round 2 of the league stage. Please vote for your favourite from each pairing by sending me a PM (DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR!). You are allowed to vote for your own country.

Voting will be open until 7pm CET (6pm UK time) on Wednesday 29 August.

Click on the flags to watch the videos.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Greece2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wbdJonUtjc) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cik9WOwF4SI)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Malta2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9I70UekEUk) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Germany2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDkt2ux_ao4)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzyl1NiQkQM) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Finland2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAh9NRGNhUU)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Russia2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waYpnAexrUA) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Ukraine2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lciTiqfFjT8)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9whldXx42U4) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/SM2006.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvSuFaZ87vI)

EurovisionSmile
25th August 2012, 23:11
The same votes as mine:

5/5 - EurovisionSmile
4/5 - Nike, Jim, Arv, alca
3/5 - LakZaNokte, Hele., EscGeek, AdelAdel, daniels1000
2/5 - martin
1/5 - Mickey, CPV4931, Steffan
0/5 - Anastasia15

:mrgreen: Yup, we had a full match here!

EurovisionSmile
25th August 2012, 23:12
There I go again with having to choose between 2 favourites - match 3 - not fair :(

EurovisionSmile
25th August 2012, 23:14
On the other hand all other matches are very easy choices :mrgreen:

Nike
26th August 2012, 00:11
Voted! This is one of my fave ESC years ever!! So many great songs!!:D

Jim
26th August 2012, 00:47
VOTED FOR 2006!

EscGeek
26th August 2012, 01:13
voted for 2006

Greece vs Iceland was the hardest decision i've made this month... xrofl3
....because I love both songs... :mrgreen:

Jim
26th August 2012, 01:20
EscGeek, I had the same problem with you! :D

EurovisionSmile
26th August 2012, 01:43
voted for 2006

Greece vs Iceland was the hardest decision i've made this month... xrofl3
....because I love both songs... :mrgreen:


Naaaaaaah, that is an easy choice xrofl2

Mickey
26th August 2012, 14:48
Voted! This is one of my fave ESC years ever!! So many great songs!!:D
VOTED FOR 2006!
voted for 2006


Thanks everyone.

I think this could be one of the most closely contest rounds of the lot. Games 3, 4 and 5 can all go either way. I found Russia vs Ukraine the toughest choice. Both occupy the same territory, one step below personal favourites. I consider them to be good, but have no particular attachment to them. Had to listen to them back to back a couple of times before I could decide.

Arv
26th August 2012, 22:14
Nice. My favourite of each game won! ;) 5/5!

It won't happen this time though... the bad songs are facing other bad songs and the good onces are facing good ones. Why is that? ;)

CPV4931
27th August 2012, 13:39
voted for 2006 - great songs in this year btw

EurovisionSmile
27th August 2012, 18:48
Voted! :D

It's a shame I wasn't able to vote for both songs from match 3! :?

daniels1000
27th August 2012, 18:52
Voted :D

as78
27th August 2012, 20:02
Voted. ;)

Mickey
28th August 2012, 22:24
So who do you guys think will win the whole thing?

EurovisionSmile
28th August 2012, 22:40
The whole thing? It' a bit early to know that, uh? And I'm kinda puzzled with the competetion process here. :oops: first we had matches that were kinda different from the league stage, right? Sorry! :D :D

Mickey
28th August 2012, 22:51
The whole thing? It' a bit early to know that, uh? And I'm kinda puzzled with the competetion process here. :oops: first we had matches that were kinda different from the league stage, right? Sorry! :D :D
Maybe I should unspoiler the rules in the first post. There are two elements to the competition: A league stage and knockout matches. The winner of the league goes direct to the final, where they'll face the winner of a playoff between 2nd and 3rd.

We had a knockout round to start with, as we had one country too many for the league to work.

Basically all I'm asking is which country you think is best and has most strength in depth. I thought it was more interesting to ask before we got halfway through the league and knew who was in contention at the top.

EurovisionSmile
29th August 2012, 17:03
Maybe I should unspoiler the rules in the first post. There are two elements to the competition: A league stage and knockout matches. The winner of the league goes direct to the final, where they'll face the winner of a playoff between 2nd and 3rd.

We had a knockout round to start with, as we had one country too many for the league to work.

Basically all I'm asking is which country you think is best and has most strength in depth. I thought it was more interesting to ask before we got halfway through the league and knew who was in contention at the top.

Got it Mickey xacademic thanks for explaining that to me! :D :D

Mickey
29th August 2012, 20:00
That's time. You'll have your results in a few minutes.

Mickey
29th August 2012, 20:19
Right, here are the results.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/2006results.png

A few of these were much more one-sided than I expected. I thought Dima could have given Tina Karol a run for her money. I also thought No Name would do well, with a song I consider to be better than their 2005 effort. I guess Invincible is perhaps more familiar to everyone.

Another contest was much closer than I expected. After a fair old thrashing from Germany last year, Silvia Night almost pulled off a draw against Anna Vissi.

Here's the updated league table.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/table2.png

Ukraine have taken over top spot, with Sweden and Greece being the only others left with 100% winning records. Despite their defeat, Norway are no longer bottom (by average percentage only).

AdelAdel
29th August 2012, 20:25
All my choices won :o xcheer

Mickey
29th August 2012, 20:36
All my choices won :o xcheer

As the last voter, you had the deciding vote on games 1 and 3. Why couldn't you have picked Iceland?! A draw for Silvia would have made me so happy.

AdelAdel
29th August 2012, 20:52
As the last voter, you had the deciding vote on games 1 and 3. Why couldn't you have picked Iceland?! A draw for Silvia would have made me so happy.

I'll pretend I didn't hear that :lol:
"Everything" is one of my top 10 songs of all time, this beautiful song cannot be compared to the Icelandic one.

as78
29th August 2012, 20:52
I find it interesting to compare with whom I have the same favorite choice.

In this round I have the same choices:

5/5 - AdelAdel, CPV4931
4/5 - EurovisionSmile, Nike, tony101, alca
3/5 - daniels1000, Arv, LakZaNokte
2/5 - Mickey, EscGeek, Jim, martin

Matches after 2 rounds:
EurovisionSmile - 90%
AdelAdel - 80%
Nike - 80 %
tony101 - 80%
alca - 80 %
Arv - 70 %
CPV4931 - 60%
daniels1000 - 60%
LakZaNokte - 60 %
Jim - 60 %
Hele. - 60 %
EscGeek - 50 %
martin - 40 %
Mickey - 30 %
Steffan - 20 %
Anastasia15 - 0%

EscGeek
29th August 2012, 20:55
Germany-Malta 11-3 ??

you must be kidding me xrofl

this time nobody voted the same as me xyes

Mickey
29th August 2012, 22:29
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/ECL2Gameweek3.png

These are your songs for round 3 of the league stage. Please vote for your favourite from each pairing by sending me a PM (DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR!). You are allowed to vote for your own country.

Voting will be open until 7pm CET (6pm UK time) on Sunday 2 September.

Click on the flags to watch the videos.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Finland2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOhXnR3-33k) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab6iJLaC3ao)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Germany2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0olqkwF2CC4) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cJ39wUg0cc)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDNgXxiZ8fE) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Russia2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXs3NFO5Sdw)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/SM2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7OvpjplJ_8) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Malta2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRonU6aG6S8)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Ukraine2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10XR67NQcAc) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Greece2004.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZwDUTEXls)

EurovisionSmile
29th August 2012, 22:34
I'm happy with all the choices, even Finland 06 which is also one of my all-time 00's faves! Bad luck for my sweet 'Alvedansen' :(

EurovisionSmile
29th August 2012, 22:40
Concerning the next matches I absolutely don't care for the 2nd and 3rd matches at all SOOC. On the other hand there are 2 of my 00's all-time favourites of mine 'It hurts' and 'Lane Moje'. Last match there's a song I like a lot too. :mrgreen:

AdelAdel
29th August 2012, 22:46
As for 2004, there is one group where my hot favorite has no chances xcry

Arv
29th August 2012, 22:48
3/5 this time, so 8/10 so far in all games. Quite good ;)


Concerning the next matches I absolutely don't care for the 2nd and 3rd matches at all SOOC. On the other hand there are 2 of my 00's all-time favourites of mine 'It hurts' and 'Lane Moje'. Last match there's a song I like a lot too. :mrgreen:

I agree. I think last match will be close too, even though I'm very sure about my vote.

LakZaNokte
29th August 2012, 22:49
As for 2004, there is one group where my hot favorite has no chances xcry
malta? xshrug

Jim
29th August 2012, 22:50
I've just voted and I'm telling you that it was so hard for me to choose between Max (Germany) and Jonsi (Iceland). Both songs are all time favorites for me.

LakZaNokte
29th August 2012, 22:53
i see every1 is excited over this group but i'm not a raging fan of a single song here xshrug (ok, i really do like lane moje :D)

AdelAdel
29th August 2012, 22:54
malta? xshrug


(ok, i really do like lane moje :D)

xcry

LakZaNokte
29th August 2012, 22:56
xcry
i know hun, i'm sorry :(
i would vote for your fav but lane is a big fav of mine xshrug

EurovisionSmile
29th August 2012, 23:10
3/5 this time, so 8/10 so far in all games. Quite good ;)



I agree. I think last match will be close too, even though I'm very sure about my vote.

So am I! :mrgreen:

Mickey
30th August 2012, 00:08
Doubt anyone will have noticed, but I made a slight error with the table and have replaced it with a new version. Finland is one place higher than before.

Nike
30th August 2012, 08:29
Voted! :)

EscGeek
30th August 2012, 09:49
voted xcheer

CPV4931
30th August 2012, 14:00
voted for 2004...Ruslana vs. Sakis with two of my favorite songs this year -.-

EurovisionSmile
30th August 2012, 14:26
i see every1 is excited over this group but i'm not a raging fan of a single song here xshrug (ok, i really do like lane moje :D)

xwave Lak - see another one we both really like! :lol:

EurovisionSmile
30th August 2012, 14:41
Voted! :D

Mickey
30th August 2012, 19:48
Right, confirming votes for Arv, AdelAdel, Jim, Hele, Nike, EscGeek, Steffan, CPV4931 and EurovisionSmile.

Thanks peeps.

alca
30th August 2012, 20:29
Voted!

Mickey
2nd September 2012, 12:14
I'll post the results shortly after today's deadline. Some very close matches. Any late votes can still influence the results.

LakZaNokte
2nd September 2012, 14:37
did i vote for this group? xhmm

daniels1000
2nd September 2012, 14:43
Voted xcheer

Mickey
2nd September 2012, 16:33
did i vote for this group? xhmm

Yep. All present and correct.


Voted xcheer
Thank you.

Still 3 and a half hours to get the last votes in.

Mickey
2nd September 2012, 20:04
Accidentally gave you an extra four minutes there. Your time's now up, though.

Mickey
2nd September 2012, 20:24
Scores on the doors.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/2004results.png

We have our first whitewash of the season. Sweden's 14-0 thumping of Finland is also a new all-time Champions' League record for biggest winning margin. That must hurt, really hurt, for Finland. I thought we were going to get our first draw of the season too, but daniels instead gave votes to both Iceland and Russia and pushing them clear. Here's the table.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/table3.png

That big win puts Sweden top of the pile. They're looking really good for a spot in the knockout stages, especially when you consider they still have Loreen to come. Ukraine are the only other team still unbeaten in second, while Serbia & Montenegro, Greece and Iceland are closely packed together in the fight for third.

AdelAdel
2nd September 2012, 20:33
And of course Malta didn't win IOTAP xcry :(

But seriously... Ukraine winning over Greece like that? :shock:

as78
2nd September 2012, 20:52
And of course Malta didn't win IOTAP xcry :(


I like Malta and I would vote for it if it had another opponent (except Sweden too, of course). It was a tough decision, but I like "Lane moje" more.

Nike
2nd September 2012, 21:13
That big win puts Sweden top of the pile. They're looking really good for a spot in the knockout stages, especially when you consider they still have Loreen to come. Ukraine are the only other team still unbeaten in second, while Serbia & Montenegro, Greece and Iceland are closely packed together in the fight for third.

But now, except for Loreen it's only worse entries left for Sweden. I mean please can't we just forget about 2005?? I'm still so ashamed for that horrible entry Sweden send that year. EEEEEEEW! :oops: Yes I like The Ark, Charlotte, Anna and Malena but it depends which entries they will meet.

BTW GO Lena PH and Ruslana!! Well done!!! xfruit

EscGeek
2nd September 2012, 21:19
xrofl3 Finland....oh my god.... i can't believe it...! xrofl3

Mickey
2nd September 2012, 21:20
xrofl3 Finland....oh my god.... i can't believe it...! xrofl3

That box looks really empty doesn't it?

daniels1000
2nd September 2012, 21:52
All my favourites won xyaaay


And this thingy with ::fi is just, just,...xrofl3

Mickey
2nd September 2012, 22:45
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/ECL2Gameweek4.png

These are your songs for round 4 of the league stage. Please vote for your favourite from each pairing by sending me a PM (DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR!). You are allowed to vote for your own country.

Voting will be open until 8pm CET (7pm UK time) on Thursday 6 September.

Click on the flags to watch the videos.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Germany2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZr49mQ7i-g) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Ukraine2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bFZTrQzHo8)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Greece2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzVPPlEK9MY) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDbPbut-Z-g)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JOAey7qfos) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Serbia2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_35DzvGr1Bw)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Malta2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fYWWwm3-JM) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQJ-GYLD9Ys)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Russia2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo_C6_B4pEU) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Finland2008.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZwDUTEXls)

AdelAdel
2nd September 2012, 22:58
Voted

Jim
2nd September 2012, 23:17
Voted too!

Mickey
2nd September 2012, 23:18
Voted

Voted too!
Counted. Thanks.

as78
2nd September 2012, 23:27
Voted.

Nike
2nd September 2012, 23:34
Voted! :)

CPV4931
3rd September 2012, 18:48
voted

Mickey
3rd September 2012, 22:02
Voted.
Voted! :)
voted

All safely received. Thanks.

EurovisionSmile
3rd September 2012, 22:21
:o OMG, I had 5/5 match with Geeky in the previous round! :lol:

EurovisionSmile
3rd September 2012, 22:22
And what happened to Finland? :o :oops: xrofl2

EurovisionSmile
3rd September 2012, 22:33
Voted! :D

Mickey
3rd September 2012, 22:35
:o OMG, I had 5/5 match with Geeky in the previous round! :lol:

Not that big a feat. Everyone had at least one vote in common to start. Thanks for your vote.

EscGeek
3rd September 2012, 22:55
:o OMG, I had 5/5 match with Geeky in the previous round! :lol:

how can it be...?? xrofl xcrazy

as78
3rd September 2012, 23:31
Who is the closest to me in voting this time?

Matches this round:

5/5 - Arv, Nike, LakZaNokte
4/5 - daniels1000
3/5 - Hele., EscGeek, EurovisionSmile, Steffan, CPV4931, alca
2/5 - Mickey, AdelAdel, Jim

Matches after 3 rounds:
(I have included only those who have voted at least 2 rounds)

Nike - 87 %
EurovisionSmile - 80%
Arv - 80 %
LakZaNokte - 73 %
alca - 73 %
AdelAdel - 67%
daniels1000 - 67%
Hele. - 60 %
CPV4931 - 60%
Jim - 53 %
EscGeek - 53 %
martin - 40 %
Steffan - 40 %
Mickey - 33 %

Mickey
4th September 2012, 00:01
Matches after 3 rounds:
(I have included only those who have voted at least 2 rounds)

Nike - 87 %
EurovisionSmile - 80%
Arv - 80 %
LakZaNokte - 73 %
alca - 73 %
AdelAdel - 67%
daniels1000 - 67%
Hele. - 60 %
CPV4931 - 60%
Jim - 53 %
EscGeek - 53 %
martin - 40 %
Steffan - 40 %
Mickey - 33 %

Woo! What do I win?

as78
4th September 2012, 00:18
Woo! What do I win?

A serious conversation on the topic "Why do we have so different tastes?" xrofl2

CypriotGirl
4th September 2012, 00:42
Voted! One pair includes 2 songs I love, and another one 2 songs I hate!

EurovisionSmile
4th September 2012, 01:17
Voted! One pair includes 2 songs I love, and another one 2 songs I hate!

Both were painful choices then! :mrgreen:

Mickey
5th September 2012, 23:33
I'm going to be working a little late tomorrow, so you get an extra hour to vote if you need it.

daniels1000
6th September 2012, 19:38
Voted!


First pair was just too difficult - I don't like any of these two songs.I love both songs from second pair,and like so much both songs from third pair.

Mickey
6th September 2012, 21:05
That's all folks. I'll just count Daniels' votes then results will be on their way.

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 21:28
That's all folks. I'll just count Daniels' votes then results will be on their way.

xcheer great!

Mickey
6th September 2012, 21:38
Here are the scores for the closest round so far.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/2008results.png

Doesn't look like we're ever going to get a draw in this game. Three matches this round were instead won by the narrowest margin. Norway, Iceland and Russia all squeaked through. Not the best round for me. None of my picks won. Let's see how our table's looking.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/table4.png

Sweden and Ukraine have maintained their 100% records. Who can stop them? Iceland are best placed to capitalise on any signs of weakness, having found themselves 2 points clear in third. Meanwhile, Malta are rock bottom and alone in their winlessness. However, I'd say all their strongest entries are still to come. They could yet make a stunning comeback a la Germany last year.

I'll try to post the next round at about 10, but will let the cat out of the bag now and say round 5 is 2012. Who will get the short straw and draw Loreen?

TheLuflee
6th September 2012, 21:45
I will vote in this game from now on. Pity i've missed last few rounds. :mrgreen:

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 21:49
dima bilan and ani lorak xpuke

TheLuflee
6th September 2012, 21:51
Who will get the short straw and draw Loreen?
I hope that unlucky contestant won't be my sweet Godnilla Pernilla :mrgreen: xgoddess

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 21:53
I hope that unlucky contestant won't be my sweet Godnilla Pernilla :mrgreen: xgoddess
or, u should hope it's her :mrgreen:

seriously, in battles game, croatia won against sweden in a duel xrofl2

Nike
6th September 2012, 22:22
TBH, I expect Loreen lose her round looking by all jealous haters in these games. It's pretty funny that Lena PH won her round with 14-0 but Loreen will lose her round. Lena PH and it hurts isn't threat as Loreen and her Euphoria is.

I expect Loreen to lose!

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 22:25
I expect Loreen to lose!
actually, i think she won't lose here xshrug
just a feeling, but i may be wrong, ofc

Nike
6th September 2012, 22:28
actually, i think she won't lose here xshrug
just a feeling, but i may be wrong, ofc


Sorry but looking by the members who take part in this game she will lose. Many of them have already screamed out their hate against Loreen and Euphoria. Where's Trece when we need him?

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 22:30
Sorry but looking by the members who take part in this game she will lose. Many of them have already screamed out their hate against Loreen and Euphoria. Where's Trece when we need him?
if she goes against russia and babushki, it could be very tied.
both have a lot of haters xrofl2

AdelAdel
6th September 2012, 22:33
Aww :( Only 1 of my choices won :?

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 22:35
4/5 :mrgreen: but where's Jelena?? :? :?

Mickey
6th September 2012, 22:36
This is going to get messy isn't it?

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 22:37
I hope that unlucky contestant won't be my sweet Godnilla Pernilla :mrgreen: xgoddess

:lol: THAT would be unlucky indeed!

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 22:37
This is going to get messy isn't it?
probably xrofl2

ask daniels how he dealt with it :lol::lol:

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 22:38
This is going to get messy isn't it?

It looks like it! :mrgreen:

Nike
6th September 2012, 22:44
if she goes against russia and babushki, it could be very tied.
both have a lot of haters xrofl2

That battle would be epic!! Ha ha ha ha, I hope they will meet each others...:lol:

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 22:47
if she goes against russia and babushki, it could be very tied.
both have a lot of haters xrofl2

I would love that match! :lol:

Mickey
6th September 2012, 23:04
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/ECL2Gameweek5.png

These are your songs for round 5 of the league stage. Please vote for your favourite from each pairing by sending me a PM (DIFFERENT FROM LAST YEAR!). You are allowed to vote for your own country.

Voting will be open until 7pm CET (6pm UK time) on Monday 10 September.

Click on the flags to watch the videos.


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Finland2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRC5NzxmrAA) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Malta2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUnEZp-qHxs)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Norway2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZaxIY1VAbM) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Germany2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cScJPH20P3A)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Russia2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgUstrmJzyc) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Greece2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NreIi8ma_PY)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Serbia2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9x9VbJzaDQ) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Ukraine2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLsTn_li5d8)


http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Sweden2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqYtlpZ-9N4) VS http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b267/15Mickey20/ECL2012/Iceland2012.png (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPkSz2-gu9M)

as78
6th September 2012, 23:04
I'm still looking who is closest to me in voting and the results are slightly changed after this gameweek.

Matches with my vote this time:

5/5 – LakZaNokte
4/5 – AdelAdel
3/5 – Mickey, EurovisionSmile, daniels1000
2/5 - Jim, EscGeek, CPV4931, Steffan, Arv, CypriotGirl, Hele., tony101, martin, alca
1/5 – Nike, RomanFromRussia

Matches after 4 rounds:
(I have included only those who have voted at least 2 rounds)

LakZaNokte - 80 %
EurovisionSmile - 75 %
AdelAdel - 70 %
Arv - 70 %
Nike - 70 %
daniels1000 - 65 %
alca - 65 %
tony101 - 60 %
CPV4931 - 55 %
Hele. - 53 %
Jim - 50 %
EscGeek - 50 %
Mickey - 40 %
martin - 40 %
Steffan - 40 %

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:09
LakZaNokte - 80 %

xyaay

what's my prize? :mrgreen:

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:10
OMG, I hate match 3 xpuke xpuke

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:11
xyaay

what's my prize? :mrgreen:

Spending a whole weekend with your bf in as78's country mansion :lol: xrofl2

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:12
Spending a whole weekend with your bf in as78's country mansion :lol: xrofl2
as78 has a country mansion? :mrgreen:

Nike
6th September 2012, 23:13
Now I really relize how good 2012 was. I need to vote against songs I love. :(

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:13
as78 has a country mansion? :mrgreen:

xshrug xshrug xrofl3

daniels1000
6th September 2012, 23:13
if she goes against russia and babushki, it could be very tied.
both have a lot of haters xrofl2

xrofl2

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:13
OMG, I hate match 3 xpuke xpuke
yeah, i'm not too crazy about it either.
and tbh, i'm rather torn with last match, believe it or not xshrug

daniels1000
6th September 2012, 23:14
no.1 and no.4 will be pretty hard to decide for me xthink

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:14
xshrug xshrug xrofl3
if he doesn't, i'm sure he will buy one just for that occasion :mrgreen:

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:15
no.1 and no.4 will be pretty hard to decide for me xthink
1 is also tricky, but 4?
really?
gaitana? :roll:
xpuke

daniels1000
6th September 2012, 23:16
1 is also tricky, but 4?
really?
gaitana? :roll:
xpuke

You know I'm not a big fan of Željko(this year).I just like both songs.

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:17
if he doesn't, i'm sure he will buy one just for that occasion :mrgreen:

Yes, I also think so, he's a gentleman, after all! :mrgreen:

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:18
You know I'm not a big fan of Željko(this year).I just like both songs.
tbh, i'm not a fan of this song of his either but i really despise gaitana xcry
horrible song X-OI

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:18
You know I'm not a big fan of Željko(this year).I just like both songs.

:shock: OMG, Gaitana??? Excuse me:

xpuke xpuke

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:19
Yes, I also think so, he's a gentleman, after all! :mrgreen:
ok then, i'll send him some pictures of mansions, so he would know what to look for exactly :mrgreen:

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:19
tbh, i'm not a fan of this song of his either but i really despise gaitana xcry
horrible song X-OI

How can you not like such a beautiful song like Zeljko's? :o :o :o

daniels1000
6th September 2012, 23:21
How can you not like such a beautiful song like Zeljko's? :o :o :o

I don't know.Don't kill me,but it's little bit annoying to me :oops: But I like it,it's around my no.15-16 this year.

I said Gaitana is probably the biggest grower for me after Eurovision.She was somewhere in the bottom and I hated her,but now I like the song. :D

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:21
ok then, i'll send him some pictures of mansions, so he would know what to look for exactly :mrgreen:

It's the least you can do! xrofl3 xrofl3

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:21
How can you not like such a beautiful song like Zeljko's? :o :o :o
it never sat right with me xshrug
if this duel was against many other songs from this year, i wouldn't vote for him :|

AdelAdel
6th September 2012, 23:21
The only songs I like in this round are in group 1 xshrug

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:22
It's the least you can do! xrofl3 xrofl3
yeah, i'm a wonderful person, can't help it :oops:

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:23
The only songs I like in this round are in group 1 xshrug
bad draw, huh? :|

Jim
6th September 2012, 23:23
VOTED! :)

Nike
6th September 2012, 23:25
Wow hard choices for me. 1 and 4 were easy but the rest... even 5 isn't that clear believe t or not. I actually love the Icelandic song too.

Nike
6th September 2012, 23:27
Voted! :)

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:28
Wow hard choices for me. 1 and 4 were easy but the rest... even 5 isn't that clear believe t or not. I actually love the Icelandic song too.
when i like (or dislike) both songs from the duel, i deal with it by simple criteria: live performance xshrug

EurovisionSmile
6th September 2012, 23:30
it never sat right with me xshrug
if this duel was against many other songs from this year, i wouldn't vote for him :|

xlove It's my favourite this year and also one of my all-time 00's-10's favourites.8-)

LakZaNokte
6th September 2012, 23:31
xlove It's my favourite this year and also one of my all-time 00's-10's favourites.8-)
really? :confused:
oh well, this must be the first time we disagree on a song xrofl2 xrofl2

CPV4931
6th September 2012, 23:42
voted for 2012 - three times very easy to decide

as78
6th September 2012, 23:50
xyaay

what's my prize? :mrgreen:

But the game is not over yet...:mrgreen:
You still have to fight with EurovisionSmile.


if he doesn't, i'm sure he will buy one just for that occasion :mrgreen:

It's the least I can do. How about a castle? xrofl2

LakZaNokte
7th September 2012, 00:03
But the game is not over yet...:mrgreen:
You still have to fight with EurovisionSmile.
we will all go together xyaaay

It's the least I can do. How about a castle? xrofl2
a castle could be a bit too much :mrgreen:
mansion will do, u know i'm modest :)

EurovisionSmile
7th September 2012, 00:06
we will all go together xyaaay

a castle could be a bit too much :mrgreen:
mansion will do, u know i'm modest :)

xrofl3 xrofl3

as78
7th September 2012, 00:36
u know i'm modest :)

It is also a plus for you. But I can not calculate it in my rating. :mrgreen:

BTW, Lak and ES, from the next round very serious competitor promised to join this game.

I really need a large mansion to entertain all of you. xrofl2

CypriotGirl
7th September 2012, 00:42
Awwwww ::gr 2008 :(
Unhappy for ::rs too, but I love ::is as well! That was really difficult, they are my #2 and my #3 from 2008!
Another difficult one was ::fi & ::ru, I hate both, but I can tolerate listening to "Believe" in studio version without seeing his mouth trembling when he says "mouuuunteeeeen", I just hate it because of Dima's arrogant performance in ESC and his English accent, while the Finnish song is unbearable overall, so I voted for Dima!

Matches with my votes in the previews round:

5/5: -
4/5: Nike, EurovisionSmile, daniels1000
3/5: Jim, EscGeek, CPV4931, Steffan, Arv, Hele., tony101, martin, alca
2/5: as78, LakZaNokte, RomanFromRussia
1/5: Mickey, AdelAdel
0/5: -

CypriotGirl
7th September 2012, 00:46
Voting for 2012 was more than easy!

as78
7th September 2012, 00:51
Voted. It was really easy this time. :mrgreen:

LakZaNokte
7th September 2012, 01:16
BTW, Lak and ES, from the next round very serious competitor promised to join this game.

I really need a large mansion to entertain all of you. xrofl2
i'll look for some offers and get back to you xbow
it's a buyers' market now, i'm sure u'll make a good deal :D

LakZaNokte
7th September 2012, 02:01
voted xbow

i am going to receive so much hate for this xrofl2

Arv
7th September 2012, 12:36
Poor Iceland.... why did my 2nd favourite end up against Euphoria...???xgaah

Steffan
7th September 2012, 13:03
Voted :)

1 and 3 were kinda hard, others are easy ^^

martin
7th September 2012, 18:49
norway get a bad draw:( it,s no way chance that people vote Tooji more than Roman.

I ask again why choise Norway Tooji?xgaahoOXX-OISOOC(O)

Iceland-sweden nooo xgaah

the rest was ok xyeah

Mickey
7th September 2012, 22:02
So far, I've got votes from Nike, Jim, CPV4931, CypriotGirl (sorry for misspelling Eleftheria's name!), as78, LakZaNokte, Arv, Steffan, AdelAdel and martin.

EurovisionSmile
7th September 2012, 22:17
Voted. It was really easy this time. :mrgreen:

We won't have a 5/5 match this time either because of you know who! :lol:

alca
7th September 2012, 23:19
Voted!

as78
7th September 2012, 23:43
We won't have a 5/5 match this time either because of you know who! :lol:

I predict that we will have a 3/5 match.

EurovisionSmile
7th September 2012, 23:51
I predict that we will have a 3/5 match.

I was predicting 4 xhmm but maybe I'm not seeing things clearly :lol:

CypriotGirl
8th September 2012, 02:06
sorry for misspelling Eleftheria's name!

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii100/oussoura/560990_10151265614714129_1722783571_n-1.png

xrofl2

alca
8th September 2012, 13:00
^ Ah he'd probably like that! :lol:

Mickey
8th September 2012, 13:14
Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria Elefteria

EurovisionSmile
10th September 2012, 20:11
Voted! :mrgreen:

Thanks for the reminder, Mickey! xup