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AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 01:03
Which winners really deserved to win, in your opinion? From all years (1956-2012).
Also, you can write winners, which weren't your favorites, but you're totally okay with them winning.

Like this

Winners, which in my opinion, were the best of all songs in the specific contest, and deserved to win
Winners, which in my opinion, weren't the best of all songs in the specific contest, but I'm totally okay with them winning
Winners, which in my opinion, didn't deserve to win, because there were much better songs, and the winning song wasn't that good

:D

A-lister
27th July 2012, 01:12
Only winners or should we write our own favorites aswell (in case we disagreed with winners) or songs that we think deserved to win instead (although maybe not personal favorites)? :)

Archer
27th July 2012, 01:14
Lordi, Rybak, Elena and Ruslana

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 01:24
Only winners or should we write our own favorites aswell (in case we disagreed with winners) or songs that we think deserved to win instead (although maybe not personal favorites)? :)

You can write everything :mrgreen: Actually, I'm really interested in your opinions, because you seem to have knowledge about all the contests :mrgreen:

A-lister
27th July 2012, 01:29
You can write everything :mrgreen: Actually, I'm really interested in your opinions, because you seem to have knowledge about all the contests :mrgreen:

Hehe, well I have listened to all songs so and I have my own statistics made.. I'm quite nerdy actually. You should see my document lol

I will think about what to write in here, you should start though as an introduction, would be easier to understand the point of the thread then :)

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 01:31
Hehe, well I have listened to all songs so and I have my own statistics made.. I'm quite nerdy actually. You should see my document lol

I will think about what to write in here, you should start though as an introduction, would be easier to understand the point of the thread then :)

Will do that in a couple of minutes, and change the 1st post, as well :p

PS. I really want to see that document xrofl2

A-lister
27th July 2012, 01:32
Will do that in a couple of minutes, and change the 1st post, as well :p

PS. I really want to see that document xrofl2

Haha, you really want to see it? it's REALLY nerdy haha

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 01:34
Haha, you really want to see it? it's REALLY nerdy haha

I like to see any document if it includes old ESC, no matter how nerdy it is xrofl2

A-lister
27th July 2012, 01:37
I like to see any document if it includes old ESC, no matter how nerdy it is xrofl2

Haha I could send you it somehow.

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 01:47
Winners, which in my opinion, were the best of all songs in the specific contest, and deserved to win: 1957, 1960, 1964, 1969 (France), 1970, 1976, 1979, 1982, 1990, 2000

Winners, which in my opinion, weren't the best of all songs in the specific contest, but I'm totally okay with them winning: 1961, 1962, 1966, 1967, 1969 (Spain), 1974, 1975, 1981, 1984, 1988, 1991, 1994, 1999, 2003, 2006, 2010, 2011

Winners, which in my opinion, didn't deserve to win, because there were much better songs, and the winning song wasn't that good: 1956, 1958, 1959, 1963, 1965, 1968, 1969 (Netherlands), 1969 (UK), 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1992, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 2001, 2002, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 01:50
Haha I could send you it somehow.

Can't you write it here? :D
Or at least, put the winners of every year the same as I did.

A-lister
27th July 2012, 01:56
Can't you write it here? :D
Or at least, put the winners of every year the same as I did.

Haha would be a bit difficult to write it here, but I will do it the way you did.

I could somehow send it to you if it interest you though.

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 15:44
Haha would be a bit difficult to write it here, but I will do it the way you did.

I'm waiting, then :mrgreen:


I could somehow send it to you if it interest you though.

Hm... you could upload it to a sharing site...

Hele.
27th July 2012, 17:27
Since I'm following eurovision with full attention from 2004. I'm just referring on songs from 2004. till nowadays. :)
So, my opinion:
Completely deserved: 2005., 2007., 2012.
They won and it is not undeserved but someone other could win and it wouldn't be undeserved too: 2004., 2008., 2009., 2010., 2011.

Trece
27th July 2012, 18:05
2004, 2005, 2007, 2010, 2012 for sure

TheLuflee
27th July 2012, 18:34
Winners, which in my opinion, didn't deserve to win, because there were much better songs, and the winning song wasn't that good:, 1969 (Netherlands), 1971, 1973, 1977, 1983, 1993, 1995, 1996, 1997
IOTAP

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 18:43
IOTAP

Instead of complaining, do a review of your own :mrgreen: xrofl2
C'mon, I'd like to see your opinions on the winners as well :D

TheLuflee
27th July 2012, 19:23
Well, I'll make a list from 1965

xbow Awesome:
1969(fr), 1969(es), 1973(lu), 1983(lu), 1985(no), 1993(ie), 1995(no), 1996(ie)

xup Great:
1969(nl), 1970(ie), 1971(mc), 1972(lu), 1974(se), 1976(uk), 1977(fr), 1991(se), 1997(uk), 2000(dk), 2003(tr)

xwhistle Nice:
1965(lu), 1967(uk), 1982(de), 1987(ie), 1988(ch), 1992(ie), 1999(se), 2007(rs)

xshrug Average:
1966(at), 1968(es), 1969(uk), 1975(nl), 1979(is), 1980(ie), 1986(be), 1990(it), 1998(il), 2002(lv), 2011(az), 2012(se)
xgaah Bad:
1978(is), 1981(uk), 1984(se), 1989(yu), 1994(ie), 2001(ee), 2004(ua), 2005(gr), 2006(fi), 2008(ru), 2009(no), 2010(de)

Matt
27th July 2012, 19:57
Using theLuflee's idea:


Awesome xlove
1960, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1969nl, 1970, 1971, 1974, 1976, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1990, 1997, 1999, 2005, 2006, 2007


Good xwave
1966, 1969uk, 1972, 1975, 1977, 1986, 1987, 1992, 1994, 2000, 2004, 2009, 2010, 2012


Average xbeee
1956, 1957, 1959, 1961, 1962, 1967, 1973, 1980, 1989, 1991, 1995, 2001, 2003



Bad xbutt
1958, 1968, 1969es, 1969fr, 1978, 1983, 1988, 1993, 1996, 1998, 2002, 2008, 2011

A-lister
27th July 2012, 21:17
My preferred winners by year (in bold: if it was the actual winner in that given year) and what I think about the actual winners.

50's:
1956: ::ch Switzerland (Refrain) (however, ::fr "Il est la" would have been a deserving winner aswell)
1957: ::nl Netherlands
1958: ::se Sweden (I don't think the winner ::fr deserved to win, ::it would have also been a deserving winner this year aswell)
1959: ::ch Switzerland (While I don't think the winner ::nl was totally undeserved, I would have preferred another winner).


60's:
1960: ::no Norway (I don't think the winner ::fr deserved to win, annoying stupid song).
1961: ::yu Yugoslavia (I don't think ::lu deserved to win, ::no, ::fi, ::es also could have been deserving winners this year).
1962: ::it Italy (Not sure if I think ::fr deserved to win this year, but more deserving than the previous French winners).
1963: ::mc Monaco (But I still think ::dk deserved to win this year).
1964: ::it Italy (one of the best ESC entries and winners in history of ESC).
1965: ::at Austria (however, I totally think ::lu deserved its win this year).
1966: ::de Germany (I don't think ::at deserved to win this year).
1967: ::lu Luxembourg (while ::uk wasn't an undeserving winner this year perhaps, there were better songs, so yup slightly undeserved).
1968: ::se Sweden (::es was a very undeserving winner this year - useless song, ::uk would have also been a deserving winner)
1969: ::it Italy (Messy year with 4 winners, with ::nl ending up being the "winner of the winners" considering they were chosen to host it the next year. According to current rules ::fr would have been the actual winner this year. Personally I would have agreed with this aswell. Out of the 4 winners, I think ::fr indeed was the only deserving one while I do like the ::nl entry aswell. I don't think either ::uk or ::es entries this year, that were among the 4 winners, deserved to win).


70's:
1970: ::uk UK (I don't think ::ie deserved to win this year, way too cute for my taste although I somehow get the appeal. ::de would have been another deserving winner next to ::uk this year).
1971: ::yu Yugoslavia (::mc deserved to win this year, although it wasn't my personal favorite this year and I find it a bit overrated amongst the oldies in general in here, although I get the universal appeal).
1972: ::ie Ireland (I don't think ::lu deserved to win this year, find the song annoying to be frank and don't get the universal praise for it. ::ie sent it's first and only song in Irish to date, which was also a very nice entry. ::ch would also have been a deserving winner this year).
1973: ::il Israel (While I understand Luxembourg's win this year, I still think there were a handful of more deserving songs. If not ::il, I think ::yu or ::fr would have been deserving winners aswell).
1974: ::se Sweden (Well, we deserved to win, but quite frankly I think this is one of ABBA's weakest songs and not one of my favorite Swedish entries).
1975: ::nl Netherlands
1976: ::il Israel (While I think ::uk might have deserved to win this year, I would have preferred another winner).
1977: ::il Israel (I don't think ::fr deserved to win this year, I find the song quite boring and monotone with the same melody being repeated all over for 3 minutes).
1978: ::il Israel
1979: ::il Israel


80's:
1980: ::ie Ireland
1981: ::il Israel (I think ::uk deserved to win, but it wasn't my favorite one this year and I think there were better options, also I find that song dated for its time. ::be would have been another deserved winner if not ::il).
1982: ::de Germany(Germany's best entry to date, and one of the best ESC entries and most deserving winners ever).
1983: ::il Israel (I don't think ::lu deserved to win this year, ::se would have been another deserved winner this year).
1984: ::lu Luxembourg (This year however Luxembourg deserved to win, while I get the appeal of ::se, I'm not sure if I think we deserved to win this year as the song indeed was a bit silly).
1985: ::at Austria (While I get the appeal of the ::no entry, just as the previous year I found it a bit too silly for my taste. Undeserving win? Not really, but not even in my top. 5).
1986: ::yu Yugoslavia (::be didn't deserve to win, a silly song with an annoying act).
1987: ::de Germany (I actually don't think ::ie deserved to win this year, although I get the win and it's in my top. 10 this year... oh well, maybe a little deserving afterall).
1988: ::se Sweden (Contrary to popular opinion I don't like this Celine Dion song at all and I think it was an undeserved win, if I had to choose a French female ballad deserving to win this year it had to be Lara Fabian's "Croire" for ::lu. ::uk would have also been a deserving winner this year).
1989: ::at Austria (While I have ::yu in my top. 10 this year, I don't really think it deserved to win since there were better options. Also I would have preferred Yugoslavia to win another year than this one, since they had better entries previously).


90's:
1990: ::be Belgium (I don't think Italy deserved to win at all this year, bad song. ::pt and ::yu would also have been deserving winners this year).
1991: ::il Israel (Although I do think ::se deserved to win this one aswell. According to the current rules, ::fr would have been the winner this year though, which would have been undeserved imo. The song was ok, but not a personal favorite of that year).
1992: ::at Austria (I don't think ::ie deserved to win this year, although I do get the appeal and it's in my own top. 10 this year aswell).
1993: ::de Germany (Another undeserved win for ::ie this year, way more undeserved than the previous year. ::no and ::se would have been other deserved winners this year).
1994: ::pl Poland (While I like the ::ie winning entry this year more than the previous ones, I still think this was yet another undeserved win for Ireland, especially since there were a handful of way stronger entries. ::uk, ::ba and ::ru would have also been deserving winners this year).
1995: ::dk Denmark (While I totally get the appeal of the ::no winning entry, I'm still not sure what to say about, however I can agree that it deserved to win but it wasn't my #1 this year).
1996: ::uk UK (another undeserving win for ::ie this year, maybe the least deserving out of all Irish wins to date. UK hade the "it" song this year which also proved to be the only entry this year with a life after the contest, the juries scr*ewd over commercial relevance for the contest ones again).
1997: ::tr Turkey (an undeserving win for ::uk this year. Not a bad song, but dated and quite uninteresting. ::it would have also been another deserving winner this year).
1998: ::hr Croatia (But I totally think ::il deserved to win this year).
1999: ::hr Croatia (I don't think ::se deserved to win this year, ::hr was a stand-out entry in this years edition for me and should have won without doubt).


00's:
2000: ::ru Russia (::dk had a pretty ok entry, but I would have preferred another entry and the Danish one is plagiarism).
2001: ::gr Greece (Greece deserved to win this year, a stand-out entry imo. ::ee was one of the most undeserved winners ever).
2002: ::hr Croatia (Pretty weak year, the entry deserving the most to win this year was ::fr although I personally prefer the ::hr one. Another undeserving Baltic win, this time for ::lv).
2003: ::ru Russia (But I think ::tr deserved to win nevertheless).
2004: ::ua Ukraine (One of the best ESC entries and winners to date, totally deserving).
2005: ::hu Hungary (But I think ::gr deserved to win nevertheless).
2006: ::no Norway (I don't think ::fi deserved to win at all, it was a pure gimmick imo and not my taste in music either. ::ua or ::be (had it qualified) would have been other deserving wins).
2007: ::ru Russia (Another undeserved win this year, this time for ::rs. ::ge or ::ua would have also been deserving winners).
2008: ::rs Serbia (Had been a much worthier win than "Molitva" the other year. ::ru did not deserve to win at all and in that situation ::ua would have deserved instead).
2009: ::ru Russia (Again a situation where the previous winner deserved to win the next year instead, also ::ua, ::md and ::ee would have been deserving winners this edition. ::no deserved to win however, although not a personal favorite of mine the universal appeal is undeniable).


10's:
2010: ::sk Slovakia ("Horehronie" has been one of the most mistreated and overlooked entries in ESC history, but ::de deserved to win this year aswell).
2011: ::ie Ireland (A totally undeserved win for ::az this year).
2012: ::se Sweden (A totally deserved win, one of the most deserving winners in ESC history).

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 22:01
A-lister, I have been astonished about 20 times reading your review :lol:

A-lister
27th July 2012, 22:06
A-lister, I have been astonished about 20 times reading your review :lol:

Haha well, you asked for a review and a sneak-peak into my statistics so here you have it! :lol:

But now when I took the time, I'd like to hear your reactions to it... afterall you read it 20 times? :o

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 22:21
Year
My favorite of the year
What I think about the actual winner of that year (great, good, mediocre, bad, horrible)

1956
Favorite: ::de (song no 1)
Actual winner: horrible

1957
Favorite: ::nl

1958
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: bad

1959
Favorite: ::uk
Actual winner: bad

1960
Favorite: ::fr

1961
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: great

1962
Favorite: ::se
Actual winner: mediocre

1963
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: bad

1964
Favorite: ::it

1965
Favorite: ::be
Actual winner: horrible

1966
Favorite: ::se
Actual winner: mediocre

1967
Favorite: ::lu
Actual winner: good

1968
Favorite: ::uk
Actual winner: horrible

1969
Favorite: ::fr
Actual winner (aside from France) - ::es mediocre / ::uk bad / ::nl horrible

1970
Favorite: ::ie

1971
Favorite: ::es
Actual winner: mediocre

1972
Favorite: ::ch
Actual winner: bad

1973
Favorite: ::il
Actual winner: horrible

1974
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: good

1975
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: good

1976
Favorite: ::uk

1977
Favorite: ::uk
Actual winner: horrible

1978
Favorite: ::be
Actual winner: horrible

1979
Favorite: ::il

1980
Favorite: ::de
Actual winner: bad

1981
Favorite: ::ch
Actual winner: great

1982
Favorite: ::de

1983
Favorite: ::yu
Actual winner: horrible

1984
Favorite: ::dk
Actual winner: great

1985
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: good

1986
Favorite: ::lu
Actual winner: horrible

1987
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: mediocre

1988
Favorite: ::dk
Actual winner: good

1989
Favorite: ::uk
Actual winner: mediocre

1990
Favorite: ::it

1991
Favorite: ::fr
Actual winner: good

1992
Favorite: ::it
Actual winner: bad

1993
Favorite: ::no
Actual winner: horrible

1994
Favorite: ::de
Actual winner: great

1995
Favorite: ::se
Actual winner: horrible

1996
Favorite: ?
Actual winner: bad

1997
Favorite: ::ee
Actual winner: mediocre

1998
Favorite: ::fi
Actual winner: horrible

1999
Favorite: ::ee
Actual winner: good

2000
Favorite: ::dk

2001
Favorite: ::fr
Actual winner: mediocre

2002
Favorite: ::mt
Actual winner: mediocre

2003
Favorite: ::be
Actual winner: good

2004
Favorite: ::cy
Actual winner: horrible

2005
Favorite: ::ch
Actual winner: mediocre

2006
Favorite: ::gr
Actual winner: great

2007
Favorite: ::bg
Actual winner: horrible

2008
Favorite: ::ro
Actual winner: horrible

2009
Favorite: ::ee
Actual winner: mediocre

2010
Favorite: ::az
Actual winner: great

2011
Favorite: ::ee
Actual winner: great

2012
Favorite: ::nl
Actual winner: horrible

AdelAdel
27th July 2012, 22:33
Haha well, you asked for a review and a sneak-peak into my statistics so here you have it! :lol:

But now when I took the time, I'd like to hear your reactions to it... afterall you read it 20 times? :o

I read it once, but I was astonished 20 times while reading specific years...
All I can say is that I don't agree with you about 80% of the time xrofl2

A-lister
27th July 2012, 22:37
I read it once, but I was astonished 20 times while reading specific years...
All I can say is that I don't agree with you about 80% of the time xrofl2

Oh I see, I thought you read it 20 times :lol: Anything in particular that "astonished" you then? :lol:

Well, as I noticed in your previous post, yup we don't agree on most of the years it seems hehe

AdelAdel
28th July 2012, 01:26
Anything in particular that "astonished" you then? :lol:



Your love for Ukraine 2007, UK 1996, and Luxembourg 1984 :o

Stargazer
29th July 2012, 01:27
Winners

Awesome
1960, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1977, 1978, 1979, 1986, 1990, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 2006, 2007, 2012

Great
1959, 1966, 1969-nl, 1969-es, 1973, 1976, 1981, 1982, 1984, 1985, 1988, 1991, 1992, 2004, 2009

Good
1956, 1958, 1962, 1968, 1969-uk, 1969-fr, 1980, 1983, 1987, 1989, 1998, 1999, 2003, 2005, 2011

Average
1957, 1961, 1967, 1974, 1975, 2000

Bad
1993, 2001, 2008

Worst
2002, 2010


Preferred winners
1957 - Denmark
1958 - Italy
1966 - Sweden
1967 - Luxembourg
1968 - United Kingdom
1969 - Germany
1973 - Spain
1974 - Netherlands
1975 - Italy
1976 - Switzerland
1980 - Germany
1981 - Switzerland
1983 - Israel
1984 - Belgium
1985 - Italy
1987 - Italy
1988 - Luxembourg
1989 - Sweden
1991 - Israel
1992 - Greece
1993 - Bosnia & Herzegovina
1998 - Croatia
1999 - Estonia
2000 - Sweden
2001 - France
2002 - Estonia
2003 - Belgium
2004 - Serbia & Montenegro
2005 - Croatia
2006 - Bosnia & Herzegovina
2008 - Serbia
2009 - Estonia
2010 - Spain
2011 - Bosnia & Herzegovina

The years not mentioned are ones where I'm happy with the winner. The only exception to that are 1956, 1961 and 1962, which are not mentioned because I haven't listened to all the songs yet to make an informed decision.

Somebody
16th August 2012, 13:10
Completely deserved: 2009 and 2012.

DannyDS
16th August 2012, 17:09
2012 & 2009.

Nikkita
6th October 2012, 13:07
Completely deserved:1995,1996,1998,2000,2010,2012

Fluke
6th October 2012, 14:25
Lordi, Rybak, Lena and Loreen. That's pretty much it for the recent years IMO :)

CypriotGirl
6th October 2012, 17:47
From 21st century only:

2003 - Amazing, the winner that introduced a new era in the ESC history!!

2004 - Though not a big fan of it, it had that "something" that a winner must have. My favorite song that year came 2nd, but I think it didn't have that "something" that a winner needs!

2005 - No comments needed! xheart

2009 - This song was written to win ESC, simple as that!

2010 - I liked other songs from that year, but I was happy that a simple pop song with not extreme show on stage won!

2012 - This song was written to win ESC, simple as that! [2]

Impressive
6th October 2012, 23:56
2009 found true winner.
2010, I don't understand, why, how? Well, I am not saying as bad as can't win, but not a song for taking win. At least, doesn't deserve. Ukraine's sound were amazing. Also Manga's and Vukasin's choreographies were much, much, much better than her. I think rest of songs deserved more than Lena did.
2011 Italy to fair. Cuz this was so poor a year on songs.
2012, Nina did different to Eurovision but her choreography was awful. Finland and Slovakia were my other favourites. I don't know...

MyHeartIsYours
7th October 2012, 01:29
2012 - ::se Deserved
2011 - ::az Deserved
2010 - ::de Deserved
2009 - ::no Deserved
2008 - ::ru Deserved
2007 - ::rs Undeserved
2006 - ::fi Deserved
2005 - ::gr Deserved
2004 - ::ua Deserved
2003 - ::tr Deserved

So the only year since I've been watching that I really disagreed with the winner was 2007. Of the successful entries that year I think Russia and Belarus deserved to win over Serbia.
Of course this doesnt mean that every other year my favourite won, it didnt. Like in 2009, I preferred both Iceland and the United Kingdom over Norway, but Im still real happy Alexander won and think it was totally right that he won too!

Jim
8th October 2012, 00:18
-DESERVED TO BE THE WINNERS:

::lv 2002
::tr 2003
::ua 2004
::gr 2005
::ru 2008
::no 2009
::de 2010

-UNDESERVED TO BE THE WINNERS:

::fi 2006 (Although I'm not so sure!)
::rs 2007
::az 2011
::se 2012

randajad
8th October 2012, 16:00
2012 - ::se MEH
2011 - ::az UNDESERVED
2010 - ::de DESERVED
2009 - ::no DESERVED
2008 - ::ru UNDESERVED
2007 - ::rs DESERVED
2006 - ::fi UNDESERVED
2005 - ::gr MEH
2004 - ::ua UNDESERVED
2003 - ::tr DESERVED

Impressive
8th October 2012, 21:01
2012 - Don't judge me but undeserved.
2011 - Sorry but even it was a weak year, undeserved.
2010 - She is cute but winning is another thing in hands. I can't say deserved.
2009 - Totally deserved with everything.
2008 - Kidding? Spain, Turkey, Iceland, amazing entries to Dima Bilan? Undeserved.
2007 - Deserved or not, I'm not sure.
2006 - I don't know other songs much except of Romania, Let Me Try. I just can say song is nice, might deserved.

CypriotGirl
9th October 2012, 00:11
2006 - I don't know other songs much except of Romania, Let Me Try. I just can say song is nice, might deserved.

Let me try was in 2005..

Jim
9th October 2012, 00:16
And "Tornero" was in 2006...I used to like them a lot, but now I don't like that songs! :mrgreen:

alca
9th October 2012, 01:07
2012 - Don't judge me but undeserved.
2011 - Sorry but even it was a weak year, undeserved.
2010 - She is cute but winning is another thing in hands. I can't say deserved.
2009 - Totally deserved with everything.
2008 - Kidding? Spain, Turkey, Iceland, amazing entries to Dima Bilan? Undeserved.
2007 - Deserved or not, I'm not sure.
2006 - I don't know other songs much except of Romania, Let Me Try. I just can say song is nice, might deserved.

I really hope you have in mind Soraya (2009) and NOT Rodolfo (2008)!!!

Impressive
9th October 2012, 10:28
Let me try was in 2005..

I really hope you have in mind Soraya (2009) and NOT Rodolfo (2008)!!!
I wanted to say "Mi Vida" a band which has four boys.
I am following this contest since 2011. I might have so much mistakes about past :oops:

alca
9th October 2012, 16:59
I wanted to say "Mi Vida" a band which has four boys.
I am following this contest since 2011. I might have so much mistakes about past :oops:

So you mean "I love you mi vida" with D'Nash. That was Spain's entry in 2007.

greece
31st January 2014, 19:48
From 2000 to 2013 I think that the only who really deserves to win was
::se 2012
::no 2009
::ua 2004

WuttabKR
31st January 2014, 20:42
::ch 1956 (Of course, they were brilliant)
::nl 1957 (Just stands out from the rest)
(There were better songs in 1958)
(I always wanted Britain to win 1959 and 1960 and 1961)
::fr 1962
::dk 1963
::it 1964
(Better songs in 1965)
::at 1966
::uk 1967
(UK should've won in 1968)
::nl ::fr 1969
::mc 1971
::lu 1972 and 73
::se 1974
::uk 1976
::fr 1977
::il 1979
and those were my historical favourites :)

MARCOMEN
31st January 2014, 23:30
2000 : Deserved (the performance was brilliant)
2001 : Deserved (same as above)
2002 : Undeserved (the worst winner ever)
2003 : Deserved (even if Belgium was better)
2004 : Undeserved (the song was very average)
2005 : Deserved
2006 : Deserved (even if Russia was better)
2007 : Deserved (even if Bulgaria was better)
2008 : Deserved
2009 : Deserved
2010 : Deserved (the song was very catchy)
2011 : Deserved (even if Italy was better)
2012 : Deserved
2013 : Deserved (even if Romania, Italy and Hungary were better)

greece
1st February 2014, 08:10
^^Even in your opinion all this countries was better (I agree with 2006 only other years I have others) why they deserved to came first ?:)

lilka
7th February 2014, 02:23
My preferred winners by year (in bold: if it was the actual winner in that given year) and what I think about the actual winners.
90's:
1994: ::pl Poland (While I like the ::ie winning entry this year more than the previous ones, I still think this was yet another undeserved win for Ireland, especially since there were a handful of way stronger entries. ::uk, ::ba and ::ru would have also been deserving winners this year).
Oh, thank you. :mrgreen: I obviously totally agree with you. :mrgreen: That was our only entry which deserved to win.

My shortened list of preferred winners (only from '00s, actual winners in bold):
2001: Greece
2002: Latvia (I know what people think, but I actually liked it very much! :) )
2003: Greece
2004: Serbia & Montenegro (I loooove it!)
2005: Greece
2006: Greece or Norway
2007: Ukraine :lol:
2008: Moldova (I will never understand how this beatiful song didn't even make it to the final!) or Serbia (I also like the Greek version of "Oro" ;) )
2009: Norway
2010: Spain
2011: Greece
2012: Sweden (One of the most deserving entries in ESC history)
2013: Greece or The Netherlands

greece
12th May 2014, 19:26
From 2000 to 2013 I think that the only who really deserves to win was
::se 2012
::no 2009
::ua 2004

And of course ::at 2014

LoveHate
21st May 2014, 01:38
Only a few of these were my favorites, but songs that deserved it are:
2014 - Rise Like A Phoenix
2013 - Only Teardrops (pretty bad year)
2012 - Euphoria
2010 - Satellite
2009 - Fairytale
2006 - Hard Rock Hallelujah
2005 - My Number 1
1999 - Take Me To Your Heaven
1997 - Love Shine A Light
1994 - Rock 'n' Roll Kids
1992 - Why Me

And that's where I'll stop.

ESCFr
27th May 2014, 22:47
I will start from the introduction of the semi-final system.

2004 : Deserved ( Pretty catchy and awesome performance )
2005 : Deserved ( Same as 2004, even if the performance was not impressive at all )
2006 : Undeserved ( I hate hard rock )
2007 : Deserved ( I almost cried. Marija has a beautful voice and an enormous talent. )
2008 : Undeserved ( Armenia, Serbia and Greece were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better. )
2009 : Deserved ( Well, a good song, nothing more. )
2010 : Deserved ( Same as 2009 )
2011 : Deserved ( Even if they certainly cheated )
2012 : Deserved
2013 : Deserved
2014 : Deserved

randajad
27th May 2014, 23:49
2004 : Undeserved
2005 : Undeserved
2006 : Undeserved
2007 : Deserved
2008 : Undeserved
2009 : Undeserved
2010 : Deserved
2011 : Undeserved
2012 : Deserved
2013 : Undeserved
2014 : Deserved

JamieBrown
28th May 2014, 01:13
2003: Undeserved
2004: Undeserved
2005: Undeserved
2006: Deserved
2007: Deserved
2008: Undeserved
2009: Deserved
2010: Deserved
2011: Undeserved
2012: Deserved
2013: Deserved
2014: Undeserved

Nathan
29th May 2014, 14:01
Started at the start of the New Winner Every Year cycle as it is now:

::ee 2001 - Undeserved
::lv 2002 - Undeserved
::tr 2003 - Deserved
::ua 2004 - Deserved
::gr 2005 - Undeserved
::fi 2006 - Deserved
::rs 2007 - Deserved
::ru 2008 - Undeserved
::no 2009 - Deserved
::de 2010 - Deserved
::az 2011 - Undeserved
::se 2012 - Deserved
::dk 2013 - Deserved
::at 2014 - Deserved

Milos-BC
29th May 2014, 15:31
2000: Deserved
2001: Deserved
2002: Undeserved
2003: Undeserved
2004: Undeserved
2005: Undeserved
2006: Deserved
2007: Deserved
2008: Undeserved
2009: Deserved
2010: Deserved
2011: Undeserved
2012: Deserved
2013: Deserved
2014: Undeserved

greece
1st June 2014, 12:49
Ok in the way everyone is doing it:

::ua 2004: Deserved
::gr 2005: Undeserved
::fi 2006: Undeserved
::rs 2007: Undeserved
::ru 2008: Deserved
::no 2009: Deserved
::de 2010: Undeserved Deserved
::az 2011: Undeserved
::se 2012: Deserved, although there were few songs much more better to win
::dk 2013: Undeserved
::at 2014: Deserved

theCONWEL
1st June 2014, 20:18
::ie 1996 - Deserved, but like ::uk as well.
::uk 1997 - Deserved, call me biased but my favourite winner ever.
::il 1998 - Undeserved, should've been ::nl or ::uk (I look so patriotic here :lol:).
::se 1999 - Undeserved, should've been ::lt or ::hr.
::dk 2000 - Undeserved, should've been ::ee or ::ru.
::ee 2001 - Undeserved, should've been ::gr.
::lv 2002 - Undeserved, worst winner ever! should've been ::fr though I like ::uk too.
::tr 2003 - Deserved
::ua 2004 - Deserved, one of the best winners ever.
::gr 2005 - Deserved
::fi 2006 - Undeserved, should've been ::tr or ::no.
::rs 2007 - Deserved, though ::me and ::ba were my faves that year.
::ru 2008 - Undeserved, should've been ::no or ::ua.
::no 2009 - Undeserved, absolutely despise it! should've been ::ee, ::ru, ::am, ::md or ::es, though the live performance was crap.
::de 2010 - Deserved, though ::pt was my fave.
::az 2011 - Undeserved, should've been ::sl, ::ch or ::at
::se 2012 - Deserved, one of the best ever, love ::ba as well
::dk 2013 - Undeserved, should've been ::ua or ::nl.
::at 2014 - Deserved, brilliant live performance, though ::uk, ::nl and ::pl were my faves.