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escYOUnited
27th April 2012, 04:16
http://www.escunited.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Ucrania.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-onH40yB2uk

NikkiBoy
27th April 2012, 17:34
ANI LORAK!<3

AlekS
27th April 2012, 17:35
Matias and Renata are the first 2 performers who want to participate in the next NF.

Narmina
27th April 2012, 17:35
Max Barskikh and no one no one!

Metafeller
27th April 2012, 17:38
One more woman singer :lol:

Charly
27th April 2012, 20:07
Ivan Berezovsky :D

GRE
28th April 2012, 18:43
Jamala!

NikkiBoy
28th April 2012, 22:18
Ani Lorak and Tina Karol = AKA, ANITINA!

AlekS
29th April 2012, 10:28
Zlata said that she skipped 1 year but she can participate in 2013.


Jamala!
Impossible right now.

CANyouLoveMeBack
29th April 2012, 10:30
Svitlana Loboda, please.. A song like na svete a show like 2009 could easily win.

RainyWoods
29th April 2012, 10:35
I look forward to more scandal <3

Oh and I wouldnt mind, infact id LOVE if you were to be soo kind to send either Verka or Svetlana again please:rolleyes:

Sean
29th April 2012, 11:29
Max Barskih or Quest Pistols :mrgreen:

WhoKnows
30th April 2012, 05:27
If Jamala really is being such a sore loser, then let her stay away. If Ani Lorak, a much bigger star at the time, was able to get over not being picked the first time around, Jamala should just stop it. BTW, thinking about it now, isn't Ani Lorak the only Ukrainian entrant so far who managed to go to Eurovision on her second try? And her situation is a bit different because she didn't have to win a NF on her second attempt. Everyone else either wins on their first try, or never at all? Bad news for Zlata? From the people who have publicly expressed interested in ESC, Zlata is by far my first pick.

I still really want Lama to go. They have some really catchy songs and they're more 'organic' than most of what we sent so far.

A new band that I hope to see at ESC some day is INDI.

CANyouLoveMeBack
30th April 2012, 12:08
^^ First Ukrainian representive Olexandr tried for Eurovision in 2007 too.

WhoKnows
30th April 2012, 13:40
I hadn't realized that. But it doesn't change what I wrote though. He went on his first attempt in 2003 and didn't go on his second attempt 2007 (though that's not exactly the scenario I meant in the first post).

Trece
30th April 2012, 13:44
I want somebody from XFactor or The Voice of Ukraine 2

AlekS
30th April 2012, 15:03
^^ First Ukrainian representive Olexandr tried for Eurovision in 2007 too.
Actually he didn't.

Sim
30th April 2012, 15:41
What are popular styles of music in Ukraine?

Would love to see that in eurovision

A-lister
1st May 2012, 03:14
I want Ukraine back in my absolute top next year! Some examples of artists/style of songs I'd like:

Erika with a ethno-ballad in Ukrainian would be my absolute #1 pick!

Erika

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3GDCw17CA

Lama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liUpSRN5lyo

Zlata Ohnevych

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=937_tLQwNoc

ILLARIA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paTs89yid48

Iryna Fedyshyn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq42RgggENA

Okean Elzy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll4fBm1apsA&ob=av2e

A-lister
1st May 2012, 03:23
As for comebacks, I'm the type of person who prefer new faces in ESC, but Ukraine had great artists throughout the years and I wouldn't mind seeing some of them back (I'd probably first give a new chance to those who I think were underrated when taking part):

Svitlana Loboda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9AGzDzdE8A&ob=av2e

Tina Karol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXF3gxL-0eQ

Ani Lorak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5IsyV_I000&feature=related

Ruslana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG81zG4o3Yc

or Haitana/Gaitana with a better song that represents her better than the '12 entry:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiWdEIzCs_c

WhoKnows
1st May 2012, 04:36
I'm absolutely AGAINST Ruslana going again. There's no way she'd win again, so why taint the legacy. And I think she's smart enough to know that so hopefully we won't see her. I can't see Ani Lorak doing better either, so she should probably stay home as well. Tina and Svetlana... depending on the song. I would however like to see Alyosha again because I think with a more appealing song she could actually win.

A-Lister, I love your suggestion of Illaria. I would love to see something like that from Ukraine. They really need to send something in Ukrainian. There must be SOMEONE who can write a beautiful song in Ukrainian for Eurovision. And even if they end up paying for it in the standings, so what. They've participated for ten years now and have not sent a song fully in Ukrainian. I say it's about time.

Irina Fedyshyn - I'm actually really surprised she hasn't participated in a NF yet (has she?). I don't mind her, but at this point, she'd just be more of what we've been getting the last few years and I'm ready for a change.

Does anybody know if Kontrabanda.com.ua band is still active? I absolutely adore this one song they did and I love the singer's voice.

http://youtu.be/m6azjXBuDLM

Another one who would be an interesting choice is Yolka with something like Provans or Gorod Obmana.

http://youtu.be/mV5xJT7BnzE

http://youtu.be/yd9ZEAVHGBw

Shima is another (new?) performer who sounds really promising.

http://youtu.be/6wnJg0QZW60

Lavika is a hit or miss for me with their music, but they could be a potential contender.

http://youtu.be/snLdWs2aEJM

Gosh I love this part of ESC - speculating, lol. The possibilities are endless. I have to pace myself and not post everyone I like at once. :lol: Should probably think of some male singers who could go.

A-lister
1st May 2012, 12:56
^
I agree, about time to hear something in Ukrainian for a change, however none of the acts you posted are Ukrainian-language ones (contrabanda and Shima I've never heard of before though).

I totally forgot about Jolka, you could add her to my list.

As for Lavika, I only like that one song you posted, and tbf if anything that would be more in the style of what we've seen than Iryna, only the Lavika singer is way weaker.

As for previous entrants. Well, Ruslana would never top her 2004 success or entry I'm afraid, but if it would be between her and some lame newcomer, then Ruslana would still be better.

Ani Lorak still has potential in this, she could go with a ballad like Solnce or something, she's quite diverse. Svitlana, Tina and especially Haitana went with songs that are under their standards, I believe, all of them have potential of sending better songs and having better results.

And oh yes, add Alyosha aswell.

Yes... like this part aswell :)

CANyouLoveMeBack
1st May 2012, 13:52
What about Eva Busmina? Would be great for Eurovision !

WhoKnows
1st May 2012, 15:27
^YES. I love her. But she's with Via Gra now, so I don't know what's more likely (or less unlikely): she tries out solo or the whole band gives it a shot?

A-lister, in my perfect scenario, everyone of those I posted would record a song for ESC in Ukrainian, lol.

Knubelznarm
1st May 2012, 16:56
Max Barskih was robbed this year, imo, so I would love to see him for Ukraine next year. But i can already imagine the same old scenario: An artist comes second one year with a great song, returns next year with a not-as-good song, and wins it all :o

CANyouLoveMeBack
1st May 2012, 22:03
^^ What do you mean ? Eric Saade ? he came, 3rd in 2010, Danny? he never won.. Loreen ? she never came 2nd, Ani Lorak ? She didn't even win ? I'm confused :D

A-lister
1st May 2012, 22:19
^^ What do you mean ? Eric Saade ? he came, 3rd in 2010, Danny? he never won.. Loreen ? she never came 2nd, Ani Lorak ? She didn't even win ? I'm confused :D

I think he meant that quite often a NF runner-up competes the year after, and wins, but with a weaker song than the previous one.

However, this is not always true, but quite often though.

AlekS
1st May 2012, 23:21
@WhoKnows. Yolka has a horrible voice live.


And oh yes, add Alyosha aswell.
Her producer said that they can come back.

A-lister
2nd May 2012, 00:23
Her producer said that they can come back.

Nice, would love something like these then:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hweBvdBB00&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iKNFmVBeJg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv_fQwGGqWk&feature=related

AlekS
2nd May 2012, 01:35
^ Ty Naikrashcha spent 20 weeks at #1 in our chart becoming the most popular song of the decade.
Most def she will come back as an author.

Sabiondo
2nd May 2012, 03:51
Kazaky plesse.. I know that its a almost impossible dream, but his last video with Madonna its Fab :9


www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyR1ZmBpYRI


Also Masha Sobko & Natalia Karpa are good options too 8-)

CANyouLoveMeBack
2nd May 2012, 14:18
I don't remember anyone like that. do you ?

A-lister
2nd May 2012, 21:53
Oh, I totally forgot some names (two of whom would be my first choices together with my first pick on the other page):

Antonina Matvienko

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSB9Yvl4JtI&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9d_5mumRkY

Vroda [from national selection 2011]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0iDZET1Hxk&feature=plcp


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nw6Njf6MX7s&feature=plcp

handeyener
3rd May 2012, 03:45
Zlata Ognevich finally!!!!

NikkiBoy
3rd May 2012, 16:31
Ani Lorak or maybe Ruslana :D

Somebody
7th May 2012, 22:14
Ani Lorak. With decent song.

WhoKnows
8th May 2012, 00:00
No, we need new blood. Ani is past her prime anyway. :twisted:

Trece
8th May 2012, 01:36
Illaria, Nazar Savko, Maria Yaremchuk :D

handeyener
8th May 2012, 05:17
No, we need new blood. Ani is past her prime anyway. :twisted:


No, we need new blood. Ani is past her prime anyway. :twisted:

But she still looks great and has a fantastic voice. I would love to see her again with a song in ukrainian or russian. Songs like these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egjAmAFi-r0 jazzy tune

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO4ihx9YkDQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mw8rBOCvS_Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD9htAteF-U

handeyener
8th May 2012, 05:32
Perhaps Vitaly Kozlovsky can be a nice choice, with a song like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3zbmPN2sz0

Ivan Dorn has a good voice:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJauU4HwowY

Or Potap and Nastya:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFyyVgCh24g

NikkiBoy
8th May 2012, 16:59
Ani Lorak :-)

Somebody
8th May 2012, 18:50
Ani Lorak :-)

:D :D I love Ani!

WhoKnows
10th May 2012, 05:39
EWWW, a BIG NO to Vitaliy Kozlovsky. His music is terrible, he has a combover and he's really annoying.

Ivan Dorn could be a possibility, if he can get a good song. So far I've not liked any of his music.

For male performers...
Maybe The Maneken

http://youtu.be/fdjX1sf14r0

Or YarosLOVE

http://youtu.be/RUBsRrx06RI

NikkiBoy
10th May 2012, 20:40
I will really see Ani Lorak!

katastofe
17th May 2012, 21:46
Ani Lorak can easly win with a good song!

NikkiBoy
19th May 2012, 17:20
Yarh, Ani was so close :D

AlekS
27th May 2012, 21:38
Zlata will not participate in the NF. Her producer agreed that there's no point in participating in such political event because it doesn't matter how good the song is, and finishing below low quality entries is not for them. In other words after Gaitana's flop they don't want to risk.

99% guarantee that we will see the newcomer next year.

WhoKnows
27th May 2012, 23:24
Zlata will not participate in the NF. Her producer agreed that there's no point in participating in such political event because it doesn't matter how good the song is, and finishing below low quality entries is not for them. In other words after Gaitana's flop they don't want to risk.

99% guarantee that we will see the newcomer next year.

Oh that sounds like sour grapes to me. After all the success Ukraine has had at ESC, he's complaining that it's political? So people didn't respond to Gaitana as much as we hoped, so what. She still finished 15th out of 42. Some countries would kill for that result.

But it's too bad that's how they chose to think about it, because Zlata could be exactly what Ukraine could use next year. But with something that's different from Kukushka (even though I liked it).

Quent91
27th May 2012, 23:25
Verka Serduchka :)

Yamarus
27th May 2012, 23:29
Oh that sounds like sour grapes to me. After all the success Ukraine has had at ESC, he's complaining that it's political? So people didn't respond to Gaitana as much as we hoped, so what. She still finished 15th out of 42. Some countries would kill for that result

xyeah

NikkiBoy
28th May 2012, 09:38
::ua Ukraine always have good result, so don't withdrawl! :lol:

Quent91
28th May 2012, 13:49
Are they the next country to miss the final after so many good results, like Georgia, Turkey and Armenia ?

AlekS
31st May 2012, 17:52
^ If Turkey failed to qualify then anyone can repeat their destiny. Though of course we have a lot of haters who think we should flop just because they dislike our entries/results.

Not sure if we should participate in this edition actually. Certain broadcasters already show that it's not about music.


Oh that sounds like sour grapes to me. After all the success Ukraine has had at ESC, he's complaining that it's political?
Actually I agree with him. They don't want to be other than 1st or 2nd. I believe that Ukraine won't enter the top-10 @ESC in Sweden. No matter what we send. Thus we should flop with Mattias so certain ESC fans could be happy :?

AlekS
31st May 2012, 18:01
Taken from today's interview with Illaria :D:

- Would you like to go to Eurovision?

- Why not? The Voice gave me such a good experience of live broadcasts. But you need a good team for Eurovision.

Yoni
31st May 2012, 18:03
Vera freaking Brezhneva

A-lister
31st May 2012, 18:22
Taken from today's interview with Illaria :D:

- Would you like to go to Eurovision?

- Why not? The Voice gave me such a good experience of live broadcasts. But you need a good team for Eurovision.

Ilaria is interested?? NICE :mrgreen:

The Voice? What did she do with that program?

Emreign
31st May 2012, 19:48
MAX BARSHKIH for Eurovision 2013 without political Jury !

WhoKnows
31st May 2012, 23:33
Actually I agree with him. They don't want to be other than 1st or 2nd. I believe that Ukraine won't enter the top-10 @ESC in Sweden. No matter what we send. Thus we should flop with Mattias so certain ESC fans could be happy :?

Unless you're making such prediction based solely on the whole Tymoshenko/political situation, I don't see any reason for it at all. Ukraine was in the Top Ten both in Norway and in Germany. And Top Fifteen this year. Quite frankly, I don't understand where these 'nobody likes us' conspiracy theories are coming from? I'm sure that are people who want Ukraine to fail simply because it usually does well. As I'm sure there are people who may for some strange reason not like Ukraine/Ukrainians. But overall, I've never noticed any kind of big anti-Ukraine movement. At least not here in the US (I'm sure it's somewhat different from Europe, but I can't see why it would be much different in this regard).

I've watched Gaitana's performance a couple times after the final and I can see why it didn't do Top Ten. It's kind of tacky tbh with all the colors, song, her dress, etc. She oversang it and it seemed people didn't even care for that song much to begin with. I don't think it reflects anything deeper than simply that people didn't respond to it. There are countries that barely/never qualify and I think very little of it has to do with 'people not liking them'.

Trece
31st May 2012, 23:54
Taken from today's interview with Illaria :D:

- Would you like to go to Eurovision?

- Why not? The Voice gave me such a good experience of live broadcasts. But you need a good team for Eurovision.

Wow, I very like Illaria! She was my favorite in The Voice of Ukraine!

A.B.
1st June 2012, 09:43
Ruslana... I don't know what to say. She said that she would never participate again in the Eurovision Song Contest, but now I see that she is working with Stefan rn (songwriter of "Running scared", the winning song of ESC 2011).

This is one of their songs caled "Euphoria" (music : Stefan rn, Ruslana ; lyrics : Ruslana)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu1zU1NpQTc

CypriotGirl
2nd June 2012, 23:25
Ruslana... I don't know what to say. She said that she would never participate again in the Eurovision Song Contest, but now I see that she is working with Stefan rn (songwriter of "Running scared", the winning song of ESC 2011).

This is one of their songs caled "Euphoria" (music : Stefan rn, Ruslana ; lyrics : Ruslana)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu1zU1NpQTc

This song has to be remixed with Euphoria of Loreen! :o

theCONWEL
2nd June 2012, 23:43
PLEASE JAMALA, PLEASE

A-lister
4th June 2012, 17:18
PLEASE JAMALA, PLEASE

If she has a good entry for a change (Smile was sort of dire).

Honestly though, Ukraine have a dozen of better choices than Jamala (some I've written on previous pages).

A-lister
13th June 2012, 00:49
It's time for an Ukrainian ethno-ballad (or something Ukrainian ethno in general)! Never had such a thing in ESC, the closest was for Russia 2009.

I hope rumors about Matias and Vitalij are just false, no foolish solo male singers! I know you sent mostly females, but that's better than bad male artists. Seems the good male acts in Ukraine are male bands and they're not interested in ESC :/

Well, I have 3 top candidates:

Illaria


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9jBevKAOMI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KekW-IvuPU

Erika


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mV3GDCw17CA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcH7mVWjXJY

Antonina Matvienko


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSB9Yvl4JtI&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Y2688VHfM&feature=related

AlekS
13th June 2012, 21:27
Alan Badoev: "I don't exclude that we (Max) will keep conquering this fest".

A-lister
13th June 2012, 23:18
Alan Badoev: "I don't exclude that we (Max) will keep conquering this fest".

I'm ok with Max, he's like the only solo male singer in Ukraine that doesn't come across as a total silly thing :lol:

Problem is he is not a very good live singer, personally I don't care, but the juries care.

WhoKnows
14th June 2012, 00:02
^The juries placed Jedward and Eric Saade in the top ten last year. I know they (probably) killed Norway this year, but lack of vocals isn't always the kiss of death necessarily.

A-lister
14th June 2012, 00:11
^The juries placed Jedward and Eric Saade in the top ten last year. I know they (probably) killed Norway this year, but lack of vocals isn't always the kiss of death necessarily.

Well, 2011 was generally a weak year so there wasn't much to choose from. This year however, it seems juries totally dissed everything which wasn't bigger vocals.

WhoKnows
15th June 2012, 16:27
^That's true, good point. It may also depend on the jury overall that year.

WhoKnows
20th June 2012, 23:30
In Yan released their new song, not their best effort. However, I just realized that they are composed mostly of Ukrainians - two of the three members were born in Ukraine (the third guy is from Russia; the other girl left the group apparently). So my question, Aleks maybe you have some knowledge of this, are they part of the Ukrainian music scene at all? They have some good songs, ie Kamikadze, and I wouldn't mind to see them for Ukraine if Miladze can write something as good for them.

http://youtu.be/eEd5Nn06m6g

A-lister
20th June 2012, 23:50
In Yan released their new song, not their best effort. However, I just realized that they are composed mostly of Ukrainians - two of the three members were born in Ukraine (the third guy is from Russia; the other girl left the group apparently). So my question, Aleks maybe you have some knowledge of this, are they part of the Ukrainian music scene at all? They have some good songs, ie Kamikadze, and I wouldn't mind to see them for Ukraine if Miladze can write something as good for them.


The short haired guy is SOOO yummy :) The long-haired looked like a fool (but apparently now he is short-haired and looks much better like that). Both girls are of course pretty, but the prettiest one left the group...

As far as I'm concerned, they're more focused on the Russian market than Ukraine, and it seems that they're currently sort of out of the picture generally (= not popular any longer anywhere). Yep, the girl from Russia left the group, the other dark-haired girl and the blond guy are from Ukraine.

I like these two songs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paMMeTAveWg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpWVjkAjDgk

A-lister
21st June 2012, 00:11
Found a new picture of them, yum yum yum... :twisted:

http://www.in-yan.net/images/morfeoshow/____________-4617/big/DSC03832.jpg

tuorem
21st June 2012, 00:16
^
Wow, good songs there!

A-lister
21st June 2012, 00:45
^
Wow, good songs there!

Konstantin Meladze is a great composer, he makes Pop but very high class and with local touch.

He did composed Russia's entry 2009... well now alot seems to hate that one, but I love it :mrgreen:

He also composed this entry in Russian selection 2010:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcoEw6NlTOQ

WhoKnows
21st June 2012, 04:01
A-lister, yeah, those are definitely their two best songs. Maybe their only good songs. Though I've grown to accept Ne Otpuskai Moey Ruki as well.

And I also love Mamo, always have. But I didn't think Prihodko performed it well at ESC. She overdid it and sounded very choppy. Also, I prefer it in Ukrainian. I have on my iPod, the version of the song that she first performed on some Ukrainian TV show when the whole scandal was going on.

tuorem
21st June 2012, 14:05
Konstantin Meladze is a great composer, he makes Pop but very high class and with local touch.

He did composed Russia's entry 2009... well now alot seems to hate that one, but I love it :mrgreen:


Yes, I knew his name wasn't unknown to me. By the way, I also love Mamo :oops: Anastasia was my third favourite in 2009.
Her voice is sooo made for this type of music, she should stick to it if she wants to represent Ukraine next time.
Not surprised that "action" failed, even if it's a good entry, she was not half as impressive as with mamo.

A-lister
21st June 2012, 16:52
Masha Sobko? She came second in the selection 2010. A song like the one below would be great, interestingly it sounds like a good version of the entry "Europe" that came 4th in the 2010 Ukrainian selection.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ESh792OIAA&feature=plcp

Her 2010 entry:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcEkm_3vyFU&feature=related

Evalngelion
22nd June 2012, 05:27
I will love Svetlana in 2013....

Sabiondo
26th June 2012, 17:28
Masha Sobko? She came second in the selection 2010. A song like the one below would be great, interestingly it sounds like a good version of the entry "Europe" that came 4th in the 2010 Ukrainian selection.

She actually is quitte popular in Ukraine, she always perfoms in TV Shows :)

A.B.
27th June 2012, 09:53
I really like Natasha Gordienko from The Voice of Ukraine!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDs2UK-_ko8

I hope that she will compete in the national selection for 2013!

A-lister
27th June 2012, 15:55
^
If they pick anyone from The Voice of Ukraine it just has to be Ilaria or Antonina Matvienko.. the rest are just conventional pop voices quite souless imo.

WhoKnows
27th June 2012, 23:54
Question, does anyone know if Okean Elzy (mostly just Vakarchuk I'd imagine) write music for other artists? I don't think they'd ever go, nor should go, to Eurovision, but I just saw Ani Lorak and Sergei Lazarev perform a cover of Okean Elzy's song and I thought it was great. So what if Okean Elzy/Vakarchuk, instead of going to ESC themselves, wrote a song for someone else?

Something like this, get someone with a good voice to perform it and it'd be amazing.

http://youtu.be/v6SR28C_KQ4

A-lister
28th June 2012, 11:33
^
Okean Elzy is great, why shouldn't they go? They'd be a great choice, but as you said I doubt they'd go.

A song like this would be really good:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll4fBm1apsA

yulichka
1st July 2012, 16:08
Okean Elzy is not interested in ESC participation, maybe Vakarchuk as writer/composer.

WhoKnows
1st July 2012, 19:21
Okean Elzy is not interested in ESC participation, maybe Vakarchuk as writer/composer.

That's what I thought and why I thought of him as writer/producer could be a good idea.

blein
2nd July 2012, 20:12
If inyan will go on eurovision then they will represent Russia. This song Could actualy win

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJQ3IB_duDM

NikkiBoy
2nd July 2012, 23:32
Ani Lorak - she so talented! <3

Trece
3rd July 2012, 11:46
WhoKnows, I really enjoyed this performance. The only thing that was on Muz-TV normal :lol: And may be yet Елка.

Океан Эльзи is one of my must favorites groups :D

Somebody
8th July 2012, 18:27
Ani Lorak - she so talented! <3

:D Ani! Send Ani!

NikkiBoy
10th July 2012, 15:34
Ani Lorak and something crazy like 2007 and 2009. Love those performance! <3 ESC is unique<3

CANyouLoveMeBack
15th July 2012, 19:14
Hello Ukraine, Ankara calling. I wrote lyrics about ''Chernobyl Disaster'' to compete in 2013 Ukrainian NF. I am not a singer nor a composer. I just write lyrics.

At this point, let me ask you something. Do you know any Ukrainian singer, officer, etc for me to contact with for NF ?

yulichka
15th July 2012, 20:56
Wow, that's nice! I would advise you to contact someone at SAY.TV ? ????????????? ?????????? ???? (http://www.say.tv) They have official Eurovision group there or you could also write to Walid Arfush through facebook, which is even better.

CANyouLoveMeBack
15th July 2012, 21:54
^^ Thank you soooo much :)

CANyouLoveMeBack
21st July 2012, 21:48
yulichka thanks again for everything :)

Tim Miroshnychenko really helped about competing in 2013 NF as a song writer.

I am about to make contact with 3 performers from Ukraine :) I hope I'm gonna do it for you.

yulichka
22nd July 2012, 11:05
Really? That is great! I keep fingers crossed for you! :)

NikkiBoy
28th July 2012, 18:53
yulichka thanks again for everything :)

Tim Miroshnychenko really helped about competing in 2013 NF as a song writer.

I am about to make contact with 3 performers from Ukraine :) I hope I'm gonna do it for you.
I CROSS MY FINGERS FOR U! :-D

WhoKnows
2nd August 2012, 04:09
Someone write her a great song and no need to hold a NF. I'm talking of course about Maria Yaremchuk. She's got it all. Voice, looks, presence and performs in Ukrainian.

http://youtu.be/Yy9MJnVkGfI

She has said that she'd like to go to Eurovision.

http://youtu.be/EKAqe5cvZ7Y

NikkiBoy
2nd August 2012, 12:31
A good song next time! Be my guest was too.. Gueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeest.

DannyDS
17th August 2012, 23:59
Hello Ukraine, Ankara calling. I wrote lyrics about ''Chernobyl Disaster'' to compete in 2013 Ukrainian NF. I am not a singer nor a composer. I just write lyrics.

At this point, let me ask you something. Do you know any Ukrainian singer, officer, etc for me to contact with for NF ?

Wow, if you can pull it off, I'd be so proud!

You go girl/guy!

Kryptonite
18th August 2012, 13:28
I think that it's time for a ballad from Ukraine! I know, "Sweet people" and even "Angel" can be somehow considered as a ballad, but I'm thinking of a much softer and pure ballad. Something like this:

Darwin & Alyosha - Ty naikrashcha (2nd place in FSC #30) - amazing song


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdqpnjS7A-E

or

Dariya Medova - Infinity (my favourite from ::ua NF 2011)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0xuGRZt3UQ

And I would much rather see a ballad in Ukrainian language (or Russian). :)

A-lister
19th August 2012, 02:17
And I would much rather see a ballad in Ukrainian language (or Russian NONO). :)

This! I am dying for a Ukrainian ballad, maybe with some ethno touches?? Fat NO to another ballad in English though...

WhoKnows
19th August 2012, 03:47
^I agree. I'd rather in English than in Russian though. :twisted:

A-lister
19th August 2012, 17:36
^I agree. I'd rather in English than in Russian though. :twisted:

No, Russian is still more genuine considering it's the second most spoken language in Ukraine... majority doesn't even know English and barely no one in the local market sings in English anyhow...

If ESC is about to represent your country and local music scene, Ukraine would have never sung in English in the first place :lol:

yulichka
19th August 2012, 18:24
^I agree. I'd rather in English than in Russian though. :twisted:

Me too :)

CC92
19th August 2012, 19:29
^I agree. I'd rather in English than in Russian though. :twisted:
Me too :)

Reminds me of the composer of Back to life in 2009 when he after his entry lost to Mamo (I would love something like that btw; it is one of my all-time-favourites) claimed that a song partly in Ukrainian couldn't properly represent Russia. Ironically BTL itself was entirely in English. No offence intended but I believe this to be nationalist thinking and that should not effect any selection for ESC. What is the point in English anyway? It is not the language of the Ukrainian-speaking community either. And we have way too much of it already. :lol:

WhoKnows
19th August 2012, 20:24
It's partly nationalistic perhaps, but considering the fact that Ukraine has never had a song fully in Ukrainian, it'd be a shame to send one in Russian. At least with English, it's became a sort of 'universal' language of ESC and the rationale behind it is that you want to appeal to as many viewers/listeners as possible. With Russian, you don't get that benefit and for most of the audience, it'll be a 'foreign' language. So if they're going to send a song in a 'foreign' language, it has to be one in Ukrainian first.

A-lister
19th August 2012, 23:45
It's partly nationalistic perhaps, but considering the fact that Ukraine has never had a song fully in Ukrainian, it'd be a shame to send one in Russian. At least with English, it's became a sort of 'universal' language of ESC and the rationale behind it is that you want to appeal to as many viewers/listeners as possible. With Russian, you don't get that benefit and for most of the audience, it'll be a 'foreign' language. So if they're going to send a song in a 'foreign' language, it has to be one in Ukrainian first.

Of course, and I totally agree that they should sing a song (fully) in Ukrainian!

But still Russian would be better than English...

Actually Russian is more universal in some parts of Europe than English is, so the urban legend about "English appealing to most ESC viewers" is not true.. and also what "appealing"?? I think alot of people like to listen to different languages without necessarily understanding them, that was always the charm about ESC and hopefully will be again.

But yeah, I don't want them to choose a song in Russian either... 100% Ukrainian ftw! :D

A-lister
19th August 2012, 23:47
Reminds me of the composer of Back to life in 2009 when he – after his entry lost to Mamo (I would love something like that btw; it is one of my all-time-favourites) – claimed that a song partly in Ukrainian couldn't properly represent Russia. Ironically BTL itself was entirely in English. No offence intended but I believe this to be nationalist thinking and that should not effect any selection for ESC. What is the point in English anyway? It is not the language of the Ukrainian-speaking community either. And we have way too much of it already. :lol:

Agree... I mean where does English enter the picture? Majority of the population neither in Russia or Ukraine has it as even second or maybe third language in many cases, so it's not at all some sort of 'natural choice'.

CC92
20th August 2012, 02:49
Hm, in case of the Ukraine I do not care whether their song is in Russian or Ukrainian and I really do not think this decision should be up to ideological issues either (personal preferences regarding the language itself are okay, of course). Using minority languages is absolutely fine IMHO and Russian even is a kind of semi-official language there. I admit it would look a tad odd for, let us say, Denmark to cease its 100% English run since the abolishment of the language rule with a song in German; however, in dead earnest it needs to be an unproblematic and legitimate choice for a broadcaster to pick a language that is the native tongue of about a third of the country's population and is used even more often by local artists. If they from now on went for Russian every year because it is more widespread in the rest of Europe and Western Asia, sure, it would be something different.

I have another concern though: What about some male vocalists for a change? :p Although I do not think most casual viewers care, Ukrainian broads (no offence :p) are starting to become a serious clich.

yulichka
20th August 2012, 09:45
I don't get why wanting your native language to be represented in ESC is nationalistic? And agree with WhoKnows 100% - why give a priority to Russian language if our language was never fully represented in the contest? Maybe for you guys it doesn't matter, but for me and other Ukrainians it matters a lot.

CC92
20th August 2012, 11:11
I don't get why wanting your native language to be represented in ESC is nationalistic? And agree with WhoKnows 100% - why give a priority to Russian language if our language was never fully represented in the contest? Maybe for you guys it doesn't matter, but for me and other Ukrainians it matters a lot.

As I said, I see why one would prefer a song to be in their own native tongue. Nothing wrong writh that. What concerned me more was the anti-Russian and pro-English attitude. According to my sources, about two thirds have Ukrainian and one third Russian as a first language (rough estimate, I shall not argue about exact numbers) whilst English is not spoken by almost anyone in daily life. That is why from a neutral perspective, there should not be priority for neither of them. It is not that Russian has been so frequently used in the past, in fact the only time they did was for the purpose of ridiculing. Also, it is hard to believe that it would be so important also for the Russian speakers not to have a song in Russian (hence the term 'nationalistic' crossed mind, sorry if it got misunderstood). :lol:
Anyway, most important, of course, remains to concentrate on a good/interesting song. In this respect, the last three years were a bit of a letdown for me (though I acknowledge the success in 2011). If you asked me, I probably would long for an ethno-inspired entry. :)

A-lister
20th August 2012, 23:59
As I said, I see why one would prefer a song to be in their own native tongue. Nothing wrong writh that. What concerned me more was the anti-Russian and pro-English attitude. According to my sources, about two thirds have Ukrainian and one third Russian as a first language (rough estimate, I shall not argue about exact numbers) whilst English is not spoken by almost anyone in daily life. That is why from a neutral perspective, there should not be priority for neither of them. It is not that Russian has been so frequently used in the past, in fact the only time they did was for the purpose of ridiculing. Also, it is hard to believe that it would be so important also for the Russian speakers not to have a song in Russian (hence the term 'nationalistic' crossed mind, sorry if it got misunderstood). :lol:
Anyway, most important, of course, remains to concentrate on a good/interesting song. In this respect, the last three years were a bit of a letdown for me (though I acknowledge the success in 2011). If you asked me, I probably would long for an ethno-inspired entry. :)

This is my opinion aswell.

I mean I totally understand why Ukrainians don't want Russian, but from a totally neutral perspective it's still a more natural choice than English.

But, I want an entry in Ukrainian! (not Russian or English, although I just prefer Russian over English if I had to choose but it all depends on the song though).

And yes, ethno-inspired ballad in Ukrainian would be perfect!

Something like this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j0dpZGRtJk

WhoKnows
21st August 2012, 04:18
Speaking of Erika, I will always love this performance/song and if someone can write something this good for her for ESC, it would be amazing.

http://youtu.be/ApHoG7qOTjY

A-lister
21st August 2012, 14:06
Speaking of Erika, I will always love this performance/song and if someone can write something this good for her for ESC, it would be amazing.

http://youtu.be/ApHoG7qOTjY

I prefer her more ethno-inspired stuff though, this is more a 'typical ballad'. But she would be a good choice for Ukraine though, a ballad in Ukrainian would fit well with her.

Also Illaria and Tonya Matvienko would be good choices.

I want something genuine from Ukraine this time around.

NikkiBoy
26th August 2012, 09:32
HAHA, Ukraine has participated with women only from 2008-2012.

A-lister
26th August 2012, 17:18
HAHA, Ukraine has participated with women only from 2008-2012.

Well, as long as it's good there's no problem. As a matter of fact, Ukrainian female artists tend to be better than their male ones. They have good male bands, but they don't want to go to ESC, their male solo acts are mostly mediocre at best (Max Barskih) or just awful (Vitalij Koslovskij).

WhoKnows
28th August 2012, 16:42
Well, as long as it's good there's no problem. As a matter of fact, Ukrainian female artists tend to be better than their male ones. They have good male bands, but they don't want to go to ESC, their male solo acts are mostly mediocre at best (Max Barskih) or just awful (Vitalij Koslovskij).

Eww, Koslovskij. The combover and the bronzer/makeup is what kills me about him. Not to mention the mediocre music. But yeah, it's weird how few (if any) good solo male singers are currently in Ukraine compared to the many female singers. I wonder why that is.

A-lister
28th August 2012, 17:57
Eww, Koslovskij. The combover and the bronzer/makeup is what kills me about him. Not to mention the mediocre music. But yeah, it's weird how few (if any) good solo male singers are currently in Ukraine compared to the many female singers. I wonder why that is.

Me too, I always found that weird. As for male-bands, there are some good ones, but I can't come up with a single solo male singer which I like (Max is ok but not very good as a live vocalist though)... weird.

coca_cola
30th August 2012, 01:29
I just heard these group in youtube! are they Ukrainian or Russian? they are very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsehvPOrZA4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

A-lister
30th August 2012, 02:13
I just heard these group in youtube! are they Ukrainian or Russian? they are very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsehvPOrZA4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I kinda liked this one, it's hysteric which I tend to like in music :mrgreen: , I like the short-haired one for other reasons aswell :twisted:

I have no clue who they are though, but considering the clip is from Fabrika Zvezd Ukraine vs. Russia, it's safe to say they are some sort of Frabrika Zvezd product. The song reminds me of Ukrainian rock songs in a way, but I think they sing in Russian though?, but many Ukrainian acts do so...

I'm not sure if they actually can sing though, it just sounds odd, it seems they can't really hold a note for that long :lol: ... BUT with a song like this, they can disguise whatever lack of vocal abilities they have, so it doesn't matter... all comes down to song and performance...

I've always said that if Ukraine should send male singers, it better be something rocky, because their male pop ones sucks...

Something in this style would be GREAT:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll4fBm1apsA

Another great Ukrainian rock song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1odAfpvijQ

handeyener
30th August 2012, 17:35
^Druga Rika is an awesome rock band, and the sing most of the times on ukrainian. But unfortunately its improbable they will take part someday. From the male bands the only one i see with few chances is Quest Pistols.

WhoKnows
31st August 2012, 00:22
^What about Boombox? I really like their song Polina.


I just heard these group in youtube! are they Ukrainian or Russian? they are very good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsehvPOrZA4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

They're Ukrainian. And they have some surprisingly decent songs. I don't know about their ability to perform live, but they can't be worse than Jedward.

A-lister
31st August 2012, 11:34
^
Isn't Boombox a rap group? That never works in ESC.

Yup those two guys, well yup they doesn't seem to be the best singers out there, but based on that song and performance alone, they seem to have some pretty cool style and brings energy to the stage, so it could work out in the end. But it has to be in that style though and please Ukrainian!!! :)

So I think three types of styles would fit Ukraine well:

- Ukrainian ethno inspired ballad (Zlata Ohnevich, Erika, Tonya Matvienko, Ilaria, Masha Sobko)
- Ukrainian rock (note that it should be in the style Ukrainian rock tend to be, not compromised with western rock) (Druha Rika, Okean Elzy, These two guys)
- Uptempo ethno(-pop) (Zlata Ohnevich, Masha Sobko, Ilaria, Iryna Fereshin)

In the last category it could be something like Kukushka or something like this for instance:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHKRYZ4Ytm4

WhoKnows
1st September 2012, 17:05
How stunning is this song/performance from Zlata? I'm in love.

http://youtu.be/GzBUuMko3qM

A-lister
2nd September 2012, 23:35
How stunning is this song/performance from Zlata? I'm in love.

http://youtu.be/GzBUuMko3qM

Simply amazing! This is exactly what Ukraine should send! Ethno-ballad in Ukrainian. An entry in this style is #1 on my wishlist for Ukraine 2013.

A-lister
14th September 2012, 15:35
The studio version of Zlata Ohnevych's wonderful new song (please Ukraine send an entry like this!!!!):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuW4CCbPndg

Yoni
15th September 2012, 09:36
Well Zlata was my fave back in 2011 (though it was a huge mistake to sing it in English)
so wouldn't mind her at all.

but Like I said before, Vera Brezhneva ftw! :D

A-lister
15th September 2012, 17:42
Well Zlata was my fave back in 2011 (though it was a huge mistake to sing it in English)
so wouldn't mind her at all.

but Like I said before, Vera Brezhneva ftw! :D

Zlata was amazing, I 100% agree... the 100% Ukrainian version of Kukushka is amazing.. the English felt really out of place in that song.

Vera can't sing live what I know about. Nothing against her, she has some good songs and is a pretty lady, but she could have a hard time with juries who focus very much (too much imo) on vocals.

Jukica
16th September 2012, 19:22
I hope that Zlata will represent Ukraine on ESC at least once :D

Matt
2nd October 2012, 22:47
The Ukrainian broadcaster NTU launched their national selection for next year’s Eurovision Song Contest with a call for songs. The interested artists can now send their entries to the broadcaster before the official deadline set to December 22nd.
A jury consisting of seven members, all of them involved in the music industry, will listen to all the submitted songs and will decide on the 20 acts that will comepete in the televised final. The winner will be chosen by a combination of jury and tele voting.
Unlike last year, NTU will not grant any wildcards to additional performers in the national final.

WhoKnows
3rd October 2012, 03:37
Aww, I liked the wild card aspect of it. But I guess after what happened with Max (he was eliminated and then people voted him in) and with people trying to artificially increase their votes, I'm not surprised they got rid of it.

A-lister
3rd October 2012, 12:52
Aww, I liked the wild card aspect of it. But I guess after what happened with Max (he was eliminated and then people voted him in) and with people trying to artificially increase their votes, I'm not surprised they got rid of it.

I never liked that system and I'm glad they got rid of it. Surely Max deserved more than many of the others to be in, but those votes tend to be a bit fabricated.

WhoKnows
25th October 2012, 02:48
So if I understand right, Renata Shtifel is going to try again this year? Here's a new song she released a few days ago. It's just over 3 minutes. Maybe this'll be her NF song? If so. I like it.

http://youtu.be/M_C7oryQ_T4

A-lister
26th October 2012, 22:38
This girl (Maria Yaremchuk) is rumored to take part in the Ukrainian selection. She's the daughter of a famous Ukrainian singer and took part in the latest edition of 'The Voice of Ukraine'. Now, if she goes with something folky (uptempo or ballad) I'm all for her, but it better be something Ukrainian ethno then because her English is bad and she is quite generic in your everyday American ballads (as apparent from that show), but she really shines through when performing ethno stuff. What do you think? She's very good looking, she is confident on stage and yes she CAN sing live.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRdBeQU4Wng

Margerita86
27th October 2012, 00:55
She could be a fine choice if she chooses the right song. It all depends on the song, even the best singers in the world can't do much with a bad song.

A-lister
27th October 2012, 01:28
She could be a fine choice if she chooses the right song. It all depends on the song, even the best singers in the world can't do much with a bad song.

Totally agree, it's about the song, that's why I specified what type of entry I think she could be good with (and gave an example in the clip) :mrgreen: , but a good song needs the right artist for the song aswell.

But something tells me if she'll enter, it'll be with a dull generic ballad in a similar style we got from Ukraine 2011 :(

WhoKnows
29th October 2012, 03:05
^That song is Ukraine best result in the last four years. If that's the 'worst' we can get with a "dull generic ballad", I wouldn't be totally against it. ;)

I'm all for Maria Yaremchuk, but where will she get a good song? She's working with Meladze it seems, but the song he's written for her is underwhelming. I don't know if she has anybody else behind her who could give her a good song and push her through.

A-lister
29th October 2012, 11:18
^That song is Ukraine best result in the last four years. If that's the 'worst' we can get with a "dull generic ballad", I wouldn't be totally against it. ;)

Doesn't change that it's also the WORST song Ukraine had in the last four years. Results are not always a reflection of the songs, there are many other factors that should be counted in. I'm not against the idea of sending another ballad again, but that was just waste of 3 minutes.



I'm all for Maria Yaremchuk, but where will she get a good song? She's working with Meladze it seems, but the song he's written for her is underwhelming. I don't know if she has anybody else behind her who could give her a good song and push her through.

Meladze is great, but even the great can create bad results at times. But he is usually a 'hit' rather than a 'miss'. Anyways, she's not even first on my wish-list, she's just one of my suggestions and it all depends on the song.

Nikkita
29th October 2012, 12:34
Am i the only one still cheering for Verka? XD

A-lister
4th November 2012, 17:05
I hope this girl can comeback :mrgreen: This song is such a guilty pleasure and one of my favs of all ESC season 2012 (not just the Ukrainian selection).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EImcui8zU

Kryptonite
4th November 2012, 17:40
^

Oh God, no. This was my last placer in Ukrainian national final. :lol:

Mickey
4th November 2012, 17:43
I'd like her back too. She was one of the best in a largely poor selection. However, Treeorange were my favourite in last year's NF.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up0qLc5nFkQ&feature=relmfu

A-lister
4th November 2012, 17:55
^

Oh God, no. This was my last placer in Ukrainian national final. :lol:

xbeee IOTAPIOTAP

Well... each to their own ;) I found it very charming and cheeky xhmmm

I think most of the stuff in that selection was utterly weak, this was fun (without being a joke) and had its own personality imo. I liked Gaitana's entry too, but she killed that song live imo and this would have probably faired better imo.

WhoKnows
4th November 2012, 20:11
I don't mind that song and her style in general, but not for ESC. It has "Western Europe Late 00s Failure" written all over it. Something UK or Netherlands would send, lol.

yulichka
7th November 2012, 22:38
So there is the first (as far as I know) confirmed participant that got invitation from national broadcaster and agreed to compete in Ukrainian selection is Dasha Medova, whom you can remember from selection of 2011 with her ballad Infinity.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J901lqJplJY

CypriotGirl
7th November 2012, 22:42
A song like Za Lisamy, Goramy would be awesome, and even better if Zlata sings it!! :D

Kryptonite
7th November 2012, 23:17
So there is the first (as far as I know) confirmed participant that got invitation from national broadcaster and agreed to compete in Ukrainian selection is Dasha Medova, whom you can remember from selection of 2011 with her ballad Infinity.

Yaay, a great beginning of Ukrainian preselection. xcheer

"Infinity" was my top favourite in your 2011 NF!

A-lister
7th November 2012, 23:50
A song like Za Lisamy, Goramy would be awesome, and even better if Zlata sings it!! :D

Oh yes, an entry like that is my wet dream for Ukraine! That song is just total beauty, and I think it's about time for Ukraine to send an ethno-ballad in Ukrainian to ESC (as it has never been done before). I'd also welcome ethno uptempo/midtempo of any sort but mostly a ballad.

Zlata Ohnevych - Za lisamy horamy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiwjO0eW-ZA

Another example:

Erika - Vorozhka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j0dpZGRtJk

CypriotGirl
8th November 2012, 00:03
Oh, I found it hard to believe that it's the same Erika who sings Paparazzi! :o xrofl2

I wouldn't mind an uptempo song in Russian or Ukrainian either! I like these languages in any songs! Why they want to send songs in English, these countries? xshrug

A-lister
8th November 2012, 00:16
Oh, I found it hard to believe that it's the same Erika who sings Paparazzi! :o xrofl2

I wouldn't mind an uptempo song in Russian or Ukrainian either! I like these languages in any songs! Why they want to send songs in English, these countries? xshrug

I know right? Well it's the same Erika :) However her ballads are much better than her uptempo stuff for sure :) (although I kinda like Paparazzi aswell as her newest single).

I know! Ukrainian and Russian are such beautiful languages and creates alot of atmosphere in songs, I really don't see the use in throwing that away by constantly sending entries in English. Although I do prefer if Ukraine sings in Ukrainian not Russia (however I'd love for Russia to send more stuff in Russian though :)).

Especially when it comes to ballads, English is a waste of opportunity. These languages sound beautiful sung in ballads!

CypriotGirl
8th November 2012, 00:48
In 2011, the Ukrainian entry would be one of my favorites if it was kept in Russian. Because they made it in English, it became a meh entry for me!

A-lister
8th November 2012, 00:51
In 2011, the Ukrainian entry would be one of my favorites if it was kept in Russian. Because they made it in English, it became a meh entry for me!

I wasn't a big fan of the entry in Russian either, but for sure it was miles better in Russian... in English it became extremely generic and meh (I still don't get that 4th position at all).

CypriotGirl
8th November 2012, 14:21
I wasn't a big fan of the entry in Russian either, but for sure it was miles better in Russian... in English it became extremely generic and meh (I still don't get that 4th position at all).

It was a more than meh year and the performance made it stand out, so 4th position was expected. It was even in my top 10 in that year, and imagine I am not a fan of the song.

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What about this band?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xuti1k_atmasfera-bala_music
I love their music, folk & rock is a very nice combination!

A-lister
8th November 2012, 15:00
It was a more than meh year and the performance made it stand out, so 4th position was expected. It was even in my top 10 in that year, and imagine I am not a fan of the song.

It's true I guess, 2011 was very weak and although the song was meh the performance for it was good and I guess it also helped that the girl was very pretty. Still though, don't like the song and it wasn't in my top. 10 for 2011 either (Ukraine have been in all my top. 10's 2004, 2006-2009).

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What about this band?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xuti1k_atmasfera-bala_music
I love their music, folk & rock is a very nice combination!

Hmm, I can't hardly hear the girl singing :lol:

Kryptonite
8th November 2012, 16:21
What about this band?

I prefer their another song - Fly away. Something like this could be perfect for Eurovision!

Fly Away (INTERNAL) - AtmAsfera by Arina Shadiy on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://soundcloud.com/arina-shadiy/fly-away-internal-atmasfera)

WhoKnows
8th November 2012, 22:47
So there is the first (as far as I know) confirmed participant that got invitation from national broadcaster and agreed to compete in Ukrainian selection is Dasha Medova, whom you can remember from selection of 2011 with her ballad Infinity.



Hm, I like her. Infinity was pretty good too, if a bit boring. There was another song she released around that time that I liked more but I can't think of the name right now. But what does it mean she got an invitation? Will anyone else be invited or will everyone else have to apply? If it's the latter, that could be a cause of complain from others.

And tbh, as much as I would love for Ukraine to send a song in Ukrainian, I'm not surprised that they and many others don't. Songs in English do much better on average than those in the native languages. How many winners have we had in the last 10 years that didn't have at least some English?

A-lister
8th November 2012, 23:00
Hm, I like her. Infinity was pretty good too, if a bit boring. There was another song she released around that time that I liked more but I can't think of the name right now. But what does it mean she got an invitation? Will anyone else be invited or will everyone else have to apply? If it's the latter, that could be a cause of complain from others.

And tbh, as much as I would love for Ukraine to send a song in Ukrainian, I'm not surprised that they and many others don't. Songs in English do much better on average than those in the native languages. How many winners have we had in the last 10 years that didn't have at least some English?

'Infinity' was too dated and generic imo.

Did you check the top. 10 of ESC 2012? 6/10 were in native language or partly in English so your theory is not really accurate (I mean in the end of the day only one song can win, so ending up top. 10 is pretty good out of 40+ countries aswell).

And how well did Ukraine 2012 fair? (in English)... well not very well.

WhoKnows
8th November 2012, 23:41
^Lol, to add to your point, only 1 song in the bottom ten in the final was fully in the native language. (French song had some English right?) So the moral of the story? Don't send a song in English. No, but seriously, I don't think anybody ever suggested a song in English is all you need to succeed, but on average, I do think singing in English is a 'safer' choice. Also, I think part of the reason people like to go with an English song is because its chances for success outside the contest are probably somewhat better too.

A-lister
8th November 2012, 23:56
^Lol, to add to your point, only 1 song in the bottom ten in the final was fully in the native language. (French song had some English right?) So the moral of the story? Don't send a song in English. No, but seriously, I don't think anybody ever suggested a song in English is all you need to succeed, but on average, I do think singing in English is a 'safer' choice. Also, I think part of the reason people like to go with an English song is because its chances for success outside the contest are probably somewhat better too.

'Safe' is boring, and let's be realistic here... almost NO ESC songs get cross-over success after ESC (no matter the language). I think just send a genuine entry and something to be proud of, the ending position is not really a measurement of quality anyways.

CypriotGirl
9th November 2012, 00:33
I prefer their another song - Fly away. Something like this could be perfect for Eurovision!

Fly Away (INTERNAL) - AtmAsfera by Arina Shadiy on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free (http://soundcloud.com/arina-shadiy/fly-away-internal-atmasfera)

I like that one too, and that song made me to discover another song of them, the one I posted above! "Bala" won by landslide an FSC-style contest in another forum!

yulichka
9th November 2012, 10:36
Hm, I like her. Infinity was pretty good too, if a bit boring. There was another song she released around that time that I liked more but I can't think of the name right now. But what does it mean she got an invitation? Will anyone else be invited or will everyone else have to apply? If it's the latter, that could be a cause of complain from others.

And tbh, as much as I would love for Ukraine to send a song in Ukrainian, I'm not surprised that they and many others don't. Songs in English do much better on average than those in the native languages. How many winners have we had in the last 10 years that didn't have at least some English?

I guess they invite some artists, it was HERE (http://e-motion.tochka.net/ua/conferences/1958-4-dasha-medovaya-rasskazala-o-svoem-klipe) that I read about (under *читати далі*).


Dasha has already received an invitation to participate in Eurovision 2013 selection and plans to compete for the chance to represent Ukraine at the international song contest.

Unfortunately I missed her conference and didn't ask her for more details.

Shmelsasha
9th November 2012, 19:45
Yolka or Zlata Ognevych... I wanted the "Kukushka" represented Ukraine in 2011:(

A-lister
9th November 2012, 19:48
Yolka or Zlata Ognevych... I wanted the "Kukushka" represented Ukraine in 2011:(

I'm sort of indifferent to Yolka nowadays, but yeah 'Kukushka' was the real winner in Ukrainian selection 2011 (of course in Ukrainian version!!!)

WhoKnows
9th November 2012, 21:04
I'm still convinced that Kukushka would have won ESC in 2011. 8-)

Re Yolka, I remember reading an interview with her somewhere where she said she wouldn't be opposed to going to ESC with a right song. She's interesting, but her music is very hit or miss. If she can record something like Provans, then I say, she should go for it.

WhoKnows
14th November 2012, 17:18
What is this rumor I read about the NF being moved up to December 23?

penguinperson
14th November 2012, 17:33
What is this rumor I read about the NF being moved up to December 23?

The broadcaster has told ESCKaz they've moved the final to the 23rd so artists have more time to plan for ESC.

A-lister
14th November 2012, 17:40
The broadcaster has told ESCKaz they've moved the final to the 23rd so artists have more time to plan for ESC.

Ehm NF in December already?? this must be the deadline for songs right not the actual NF?

penguinperson
14th November 2012, 18:00
Ehm NF in December already?? this must be the deadline for songs right not the actual NF?

NF on the 23rd yet they've told ESCKaz the deadline remains the 22nd of December. They don't get how they will pull this off, but the artists are demanding it.

A-lister
14th November 2012, 18:03
NF on the 23rd yet they've told ESCKaz the deadline remains the 22nd of December. They don't get how they will pull this off, but the artists are demanding it.

Hmm, that's really odd. I never read anywhere that they even set a date for an NF, and to have a deadline the day before this supposed date? I hardly believe any of these 'news' tbh.

penguinperson
14th November 2012, 18:08
Hmm, that's really odd. I never read anywhere that they even set a date for an NF, and to have a deadline the day before this supposed date? I hardly believe any of these 'news' tbh.

Andy at ESCKaz is more reliable than most especially with the likes of Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine as he's often invited exclusively to those NF rehearsals year in year out and given the songs earlier. They had originally set one for mid February but artists have moaned they hadn't got enough time to prepare for ESC. Same reason why Belarus is early this year as well. It seems Andy is skeptical like us that this will work but at the moment that's the goal. I think Georgia this year had around a two day period from submissions to a final that sprang from nowhere.

A-lister
14th November 2012, 18:17
Andy at ESCKaz is more reliable than most especially with the likes of Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine as he's often invited exclusively to those NF rehearsals year in year out and given the songs earlier. They had originally set one for mid February but artists have moaned they hadn't got enough time to prepare for ESC. Same reason why Belarus is early this year as well. It seems Andy is skeptical like us that this will work but at the moment that's the goal. I think Georgia this year had around a two day period from submissions to a final that sprang from nowhere.

This is really odd, but let's see. I haven't seen any confirmation from NTU regarding when the selection will be held, or even what type of selection method they'll use this time around.

Does ESKAZ have a "ESC 2013" section up yet? I can't find any news on their page regarding the upcoming ESC yet.

penguinperson
14th November 2012, 18:24
This is really odd, but let's see. I haven't seen any confirmation from NTU regarding when the selection will be held, or even what type of selection method they'll use this time around.

Does ESKAZ have a "ESC 2013" section up yet? I can't find any news on their page regarding the upcoming ESC yet.

Not yet probably won't until JESC is over. Most of the details he will post on escnation in the meantime as a regular.

yulichka
15th November 2012, 22:23
Nice time to know who will represent us. I am also of the opinion that our representative should spend more time on preparation.

Matt
16th November 2012, 16:51
The Ukrainian National Final has been moved. Instead of having to wait until February, the show will take place next month. The selection will consist of 2 shows: A preliminary selection by juries on 22 December and the 2013 Ukrainian National Final on 23 December.

WhoKnows
16th November 2012, 17:26
There's gotta be a 'real' reason behind this last minute change. I'm glad we're getting the song earlier though.

CANyouLoveMeBack
16th November 2012, 18:07
LOBODA please ! maybe with a ballad or a song like Na Svete

penguinperson
16th November 2012, 18:21
There's gotta be a 'real' reason behind this last minute change. I'm glad we're getting the song earlier though.
Maybe a certain act can only make the time then

WhoKnows
16th November 2012, 19:04
LOBODA please ! maybe with a ballad or a song like Na Svete

With something like this.

http://youtu.be/WSm6yfYZQTI

Live performance of it.

http://youtu.be/G12bDmLtxTw

CANyouLoveMeBack
17th November 2012, 13:58
is there any photo of Loboda with her daughter evangelina ? :) You know her eurovision dancer is the dad of her daughter :D

WhoKnows
17th November 2012, 18:58
^He's still a dancer for her.
http://i.imgur.com/L8gMe.jpg

A-lister
18th November 2012, 15:06
The Ukrainian National Final has been moved. Instead of having to wait until February, the show will take place next month. The selection will consist of 2 shows: A preliminary selection by juries on 22 December and the 2013 Ukrainian National Final on 23 December.

Well, folks prepare yourself for the yearly Ukrainian scandals :lol:

There's no way with the deadline being the day before the final that this will work out smoothly :lol:

Matt
18th November 2012, 18:42
Yeah, I'm wondering too what the Ukrainian NF has in store for us this year. It may not be the most professional and smooth running event of the year but it is certainly deserving of an Emmy for best Drama.

Scooby
18th November 2012, 18:50
Ukrainian saga continues

evilperson
19th November 2012, 22:22
Well, folks prepare yourself for the yearly Ukrainian scandals :lol:

There's no way with the deadline being the day before the final that this will work out smoothly :lol:

They seem to have a lot of trouble with artists submitting songs that are released prior to the cut-off date.

If there is a problem, I bet it'll probably be an Alyosha style one where an ineligible song ends up winning.

Scooby
19th November 2012, 22:48
What a voice xshock
Amazing


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AhkcYLu3Hc&feature=related

A-lister
19th November 2012, 23:09
^
Kareoke... xshrug

If you want good stuff from 'The Voice of Ukraine' you should check up Illaria or Tonya Matvienko, they have character and both would be great representatives for Ukraine in ESC.

WhoKnows
20th November 2012, 00:08
^^Great voice. She sounds rough/rushed in some places though. Give her some training and experience and I think we may have something.

Speaking of the Ukrainian X Factor, how about this girl? Not sure if it's been posted here, but she's pretty amazing.

http://youtu.be/WH4hinQhuOY

A-lister
20th November 2012, 00:28
^
As for the first clip..

What I meant is that she doesn't bring anything new to the table, yes she can sing but alot of people can. I have to say though I kinda like her deep vocals, so I guess with a good song she COULD potentially become interesting. Thing is I have such a dislike for this show that I rather judge these people when they start record songs on their own, because first then one can really tell what type of artists they can become.

WhoKnows
20th November 2012, 05:41
^Fair enough.

Also, that girl needs to be forbidden from going into a tanning booth ever again.

A-lister
20th November 2012, 11:30
^Fair enough.

Also, that girl needs to be forbidden from going into a tanning booth ever again.

:lol: the last sentence is SO true!

Actually, her vocals reminds me of the deep vocals NeAngely have.

vavera4ka
20th November 2012, 23:49
I wouldn't mind seeing them represent Ukraine. Just enough craziness to not be too serious but not a complete joke too :)

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A-lister
21st November 2012, 00:23
^
I actually kinda like them oddly (although not liking the song you uploaded there). I wouldn't really refer to them as a joke act, they're just a bit different.

Something like 'Atas' could be an interesting and different choice for Ukraine:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsehvPOrZA4

^ But if going for something like them the song need to be ALL out there like 'Atas', it better be no safe stuff or boy-band mixed like some of their other stuff... then there's no point in choosing them, the whole point if choosing them would be to embrace the crazy and odd.

Ukraine barely sent any male acts, because let's be honest here most interested male acts sucked and the ones that could be good choices (like Druha Rika for instance) aren't interested at all... Dio.Filmy could be an ok male act for Ukraine though, and I guess chances that they could enter the selection are higher than more established good male acts.

Something like 'Atas' but maybe a bit wilder, in Ukrainian and with added ethno motives (but still this signature Soviet-styled rock) could be a really great entry for Ukraine (producers/NTU read my comment!!).

vavera4ka
21st November 2012, 06:23
I agree, and that's why I picked that song and that performance: I wanted it to be their song, not a cover and something that is a bit out of the box. They can do crazy "out there" stuff, so yeah, let them.

If they do something as massive as Atas, they could borrow last years' screen from What's her face... the girl that represented Ukraine with 1 million dancers behind her :lol:

Nikkita
21st November 2012, 12:05
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKpP-Pab8vA
Quest Pistols would be odd and cool too.

A-lister
21st November 2012, 14:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKpP-Pab8vA
Quest Pistols would be odd and cool too.

They are another example of a somewhat good male act from Ukraine, however I don't think they're interested really. Most good or good enough Ukrainian male acts are different type of rock acts that have very little interest in Eurovision.

It seems the only Ukrainian male non-rock acts interested of ESC are sucky ones like Vitalij Koslovzkij, Alexandеr Panayotov and Matias (and let's cross all our fingers that we will never get any of those in ESC!)... and with such male acts people should not be surprised when Ukraine always goes for females instead...

Max Barskih is like the only kinda good male pop act that showed interest in Eurovision, his problem is though that his live vocals are quite weak and the juries won't approve of such.

I personally see no problem in Ukraine constantly sending females, their best acts imo tend to be females so it's really a no-brainer if people have some insight in the Ukrainian music market, and since the good male ones aren't interested what to do?

vavera4ka
21st November 2012, 17:01
Max Barskih is like the only kinda good male pop act that showed interest in Eurovision, his problem is though that his live vocals are quite weak and the juries won't approve of such.
i know what you are talking about. I only saw him in Fabrika Russia vs Ukraine, but it seems like such a waste of imagination and talent for thinking outside of the box. I'm not sure who was creating all the sets for the songs, but his were always weird in a good way. It all looked amazing until he sang. I'm still angry at him for ruining what i thought was the most genius cover and set design not only on that show, but on any post soviet stage i've seen in a loon-long time
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same goes for the duet
Вера Брежнева и Мак? Бар?ких - Любовь ?па?ет мир - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBvpLj0zUyk)
i have no idea who did the arrangement and staged it, it was hot, haunting and electric. But unfortunately nether of them are good singers, so, again, the performance instead of soaring into amazing, just fell flat...


on a separate note, i've been thinking for the past few years, whoever convinces Garou to represent their country has a guaranteed win lol dude is crazy popular in Europe, the energy and charisma are second to none plus his voice sounds like pure sex, so even if he sings yellow pages of the country he is representing it will be hot... add a decent song to that mix and you get a contest where everybody else is fighting for 2nd place :lol:

A-lister
21st November 2012, 17:18
^
Those vocals were painful to listen to live :lol:

And I like that song in studio version. I also think Max is visually a good artist, but he is just too weak vocally.

Garou!?

vavera4ka
21st November 2012, 17:50
Garou!?
widely known as an original Quazimodo in French musical Notre Dame de Prais
but he's a pop-rock singer from Quebec.
Garou Paris-Bercy 4 (You can leave your hat on) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ga01RL3GbE)

Scooby
21st November 2012, 18:10
Quest Pistols would be AWESOME. I fu***** love that band. My cell phone ring on their Revolucia two yeas, love that song


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkmGo3QHPdM&feature=related

A-lister
21st November 2012, 18:13
widely known as an original Quazimodo in French musical Notre Dame de Prais
but he's a pop-rock singer from Quebec.
Garou Paris-Bercy 4 (You can leave your hat on) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ga01RL3GbE)

So NOT my type of music, what does this have to do with Ukraine in ESC though? I'm confused xshrug

toinou03
21st November 2012, 18:21
Quote Originally Posted by vavera4ka View Post
widely known as an original Quazimodo in French musical Notre Dame de Prais
but he's a pop-rock singer from Quebec.
Garou Paris-Bercy 4 (You can leave your hat on) - YouTube
So NOT my type of music, what does this have to do with Ukraine in ESC though? I'm confused

hahaha ! He could have done it for France, but now, it's too late, he won't enter ESC... But, I'm surprised, I didn't know he could be famous in Europe outside France and Belgium !

vavera4ka
21st November 2012, 18:22
So NOT my type of music, what does this have to do with Ukraine in ESC though? I'm confused xshrug
not much, it was a side thought really. but he is very popular in Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, Poland, etc... so I can potentially see in a remote dreamland lol him representing any of those countries... but yeah, it's extremely OT, so I'm wrapping my delusions up :)

and in the spirit of good will i'd like to take the thread back to talking about plausible representatives...
Potap and Nastia?

A-lister
21st November 2012, 18:25
Quest Pistols would be AWESOME. I fu***** love that band. My cell phone ring on their Revolucia two yeas, love that song


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkmGo3QHPdM&feature=related

This is my fav song I heard of them:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhF5fswJ6hY

However, I would prefer a Ukranian-language band then:

Okean Elzy


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll4fBm1apsA

Antytila


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzHsFE1mkds

Mad Heads XL


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa405OS1Yes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTx9te8n9yc

Druha Rika


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1odAfpvijQ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jeg-UezCvrw

Tartak


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTvZYrzLzXI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwdZs8645bc

vavera4ka
21st November 2012, 18:37
Okean would be awesome. I LOVE Я так хочу... Wheni visited Ukraine in 2010 i heard it on the radio and was trying to hunt down the beginning as a ringtone. Didn't find it and decided to cut it myself. Still using it :)
But I'm afraid the odds of them going are not promising.
Same as J:Mors in Belarus or Gorod 312 in Russia...
Quality artists don't consider Eurovision as a legitimate contest... :(

A-lister
21st November 2012, 18:44
Okean would be awesome. I LOVE Я так хочу... Wheni visited Ukraine in 2010 i heard it on the radio and was trying to hunt down the beginning as a ringtone. Didn't find it and decided to cut it myself. Still using it :)
But I'm afraid the odds of them going are not promising.
Same as J:Mors in Belarus or Gorod 312 in Russia...
Quality artists don't consider Eurovision as a legitimate contest... :(

I know :( That's what I wrote previously, it seems when it comes to male acts none of the good ones are interested in ESC in Ukraine.

However, when it comes to female acts I have to disagree, some of the very best Pop acts Ukraine has to offer have entered the selection and also represented Ukraine... the only act I'm really missing is Lama, which again would probably not enter aswell.

I actually don't know that Belarussian or Russian act you mentioned.

Knubelznarm
21st November 2012, 23:16
I'm still disappointed that Max Barskih didn't go for Ukraine this year. I liked Gaitana as well, but "Dance" was perfect for Eurovision and would've been something new from Ukraine. Besides, I don't think his vocals are that bad. His charisma makes up for it anyway. I kinda hope to see him again in the ukrainian selection in the future. But the song would have to live up to "Dance", which would be almost impossible imo.

A-lister
22nd November 2012, 01:53
I'm still disappointed that Max Barskih didn't go for Ukraine this year. I liked Gaitana as well, but "Dance" was perfect for Eurovision and would've been something new from Ukraine. Besides, I don't think his vocals are that bad. His charisma makes up for it anyway. I kinda hope to see him again in the ukrainian selection in the future. But the song would have to live up to "Dance", which would be almost impossible imo.

I liked Dance, but in Russian version... not too big fan of the English version presented in the selection tbh.

I think Max is a good stage artist, and he did that presentation ok vocally aswell, but sometimes he is pretty bad vocally so it's a chance taken. But, vocals are not everything, and with the right song and stage presentation he could be a good choice.

WhoKnows
23rd November 2012, 06:45
Apparently, Ukraine will have some kind of elimination/presentation/semi process on November 24 at a club. I don't know if it's the first group of the four, because 3 additional 'somethings' will be taped on Dec 1, Dec 8 and Dec 15. National Final on Dec 23.

Something smells fishy about this whole thing and the sudden dates change. To go from Dec 22 as the deadline for submissions to Nov 24 as the first group presentation?

Charly
24th November 2012, 00:59
23rd Dec NF :P

Nikkita
24th November 2012, 13:19
I still love listening Russian version of Dance.Why Ukraine,why not Max Barskih? :D
And he's a nice performancer,but needs some back vocals.

anto475
24th November 2012, 19:08
I thought Max Barskih was going for it this year? With I Wanna Run?

Also A-Lister, yes to Mad Heads XL! I love Ukraine normally but if they send Mad Heads XL I may just cry with happiness

Knubelznarm
24th November 2012, 22:35
^

It kinda looks like it?? xhmm


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NHzq-ziuhs

If it's true, I am of course very happy, but like I expected it isn't as good as "Dance". But it's pretty good nonetheless ;)

WhoKnows
24th November 2012, 22:51
I actually prefer I Wanna Run to Dance.

Anyway, the first few rumored contenders for the NF: Stas Shurins, Olga Shanis, Angelia, "Orkestr Yanki Kozir", and Ana Stesia.

I think Ana Stesia is trying out with this song.

http://youtu.be/fcKWVwdflUY

yulichka
25th November 2012, 15:52
I guess yesterday's presentation was not to be taken serious. It was just a little casting or that sort of thing. There is still one month to go, they cannot possibly already choose first 4 or 5, what if better 20-30 performers apply during the last week?

yulichka
14th December 2012, 16:06
Ukrainian singer Alina Grosu is preparing to participate in Ukrainian National Final with "Let go" which she has written by herself. The performance is being prepared for already half a year.

A-lister
15th December 2012, 15:10
I hope Tonya Matvienko would take part, but since she's been vocal against the current regime I doubt they'll pick her :( But someone like her would be great for Ukraine.

This is her brand new single that just got released:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nB2pXgK6r2o

yulichka
15th December 2012, 21:33
Yeah, and I doubt she has enough money too :(

evilperson
16th December 2012, 08:22
Is this NF still happening in December? I have a feeling that it will be postponed.

I'd like to see Zlata Ognevich enter this year. She has the potential to have a great entry and performance.
But hopefully it would be nothing like Kukushka, which was terrible.

GRE
16th December 2012, 09:04
Is this NF still happening in December? I have a feeling that it will be postponed.

I'd like to see Zlata Ognevich enter this year. She has the potential to have a great entry and performance.
But hopefully it would be nothing like Kukushka, which was terrible.
where is Aleks to tell us ??

yulichka
16th December 2012, 12:55
where is Aleks to tell us ??

Unfortunately, Alex left this forum somewhere in June. I don't know if he is coming back at all.

And about Zlata - only time tells. There is still no hint or whatsoever from her or her team on participating. And yes, the final is happening (December 23, 11:50 in the morning, as far as I got it right).

evilperson
17th December 2012, 00:29
Andy from ESCKaz says that NTU has been holding weekly Eurovision parties where artists who submitted entries can present them at clubs.

Some artists who have submitted an entry are: Ana Stasia (a project of Paradize center, very closely associated with some of NTU officials), Eduard Romanyuta, Renata, Marietta, Alina Grosu, duet Emotion, and Maxim Novitsky.

He also said that some of the alleged submissions already break the release date rule.

A-lister
17th December 2012, 00:41
^
Quite lame names, the only one sounding slightly promising is Alina (out of the ones I know). Renata was such a bore last year, but maybe with a good entry she could be ok aswell.

But in general it seems interest for ESC in Ukraine has hit an all-time low based on these names.

A-lister
18th December 2012, 00:34
Olya Polyakova who entered the '12 Ukrainian selection with the fab 'Lepestok' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5EImcui8zU) just released her new quite hilarious version of 'Gangnam Style' called 'Russian Style' some days prior the Ukrainian selection for '13.

The song is just about 3 minutes long, and since this song is NOT an actual cover version of the Psy song, it could very well be a hilarious add to the Ukrainian selection :mrgreen: I really liked her last year so why not? This would be like Verka Serduchka (2007) mixed with Svitlana Loboda (2009), I'm actually open for a new crazy hilarious overly sexual Ukrainian entry again! :mrgreen:

Opa Russian Style! xcheer


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMdoS6Ju_04

WhoKnows
18th December 2012, 01:30
^I don't know about the song, but I would kind of like to see that performance, lol.

With that said, there is no way they would select a song called "Russian Style."

A-lister
18th December 2012, 02:28
^I don't know about the song, but I would kind of like to see that performance, lol.

With that said, there is no way they would select a song called "Russian Style."

I must say I'm a fan of her 'humor'. She is playing with these stereotypes about Eastern European women (she also did it with 'Lepestok'), but it's tongue in cheek and witty.

Well, just change it to 'Ukrainian Style' :lol:

CypriotGirl
18th December 2012, 14:34
That "Russian Style" rocks! xrofl

A-lister
18th December 2012, 14:37
That "Russian Style" rocks! xrofl

Those MEN !! :twisted:

I luv it :mrgreen:

vavera4ka
18th December 2012, 18:38
http://memecrunch.com/meme/8NDN/dafuq/image.png

yulichka
18th December 2012, 19:14
Andy from ESCKaz says that NTU has been holding weekly Eurovision parties where artists who submitted entries can present them at clubs.

Some artists who have submitted an entry are: Ana Stasia (a project of Paradize center, very closely associated with some of NTU officials), Eduard Romanyuta, Renata, Marietta, Alina Grosu, duet Emotion, and Maxim Novitsky.

He also said that some of the alleged submissions already break the release date rule.

As far as I know, Renata did not apply as yet. Mariya Yaremchuk and Tania Shyrko did though.

A-lister
19th December 2012, 03:54
As far as I know, Renata did not apply as yet. Mariya Yaremchuk and Tania Shyrko did though.

Hmm, I dunno who Tania is but I hope Mariya would send something ethno-inspired in Ukrainian... but she'll probably enter something boring as the '11 Ukrainian entry I'm afraid.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRdBeQU4Wng

A-lister
19th December 2012, 20:22
Apparently this is the list of acts that applied to the Ukrainian selection. NTU will pick 20 of them for the final on 23rd December:

01. Tatiana Shirko
02. Julia Kunitsa
03. Group "Star Angels"
04. Duet "Ljubimyj, Ljubimaya"
05. Godo
06. Dzhoya
07. Ilona Shulga
08. Maxim Novitsky
09. Evgenij Belozerov
10. Group "Rolleks"
11. Natti
12. Ana Stesiya
13. Vitaly Galai
14. Angeliya
15. Eduard Romanuta
16. Group "Dilays"
17. Lena Korneeva
18. Alina Grosu
19. Duet "Emotion"
20. Galina Bezruk
21. Group "Patrix"
22. Lyudmila Yasinskaya
23. Dasha Medovaya
24. Juliana Rudokova & Mitya and Pryaniki
25. Julia Stepanets and the group "Six o'clock"
26. Tanya Bryantseva
27. Marietta
28. Ensemble "Spring"
29. Ensemble "Gvozdіvchanka"
30. Ensemble "Zhivemo"
31. Avtandil Bazhiashvili
32. Dima Skalozubov
33. Group "Napoli"
34. Viktoriya
35. The "Trinity"
36. Yakov Smirnov
37. Diana Miroshnichenko
38. Inesh

A-lister
19th December 2012, 20:38
^
Most names are totally unknown to me.

Alina Grosu is probably the most famous one out of these. She started out as a child-star in Ukraine and then went on to become a decently established pop act.
Both Dasha Medova and Eduard Romanuta took part in the Ukrainian selection 2011.

Dilays had some summer-hit in Ukraine 2012 with a cover of the song 'Suavemente'. As for the others I have no clue who they are.

I hope that this list is not really true and we get added some more interesting names.

A-lister
19th December 2012, 20:49
Alina Grosu will most probably enter with this song (or an English version of it):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h3ToedfURc

The latest single by Dasha is this one, perhaps she'll enter the same song in the election:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emm5EpEOxQ0

As for the rest I'm clueless, but this is atleast what Dilays look like:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zzD5Olj8cs

Matt
19th December 2012, 20:59
It's so strange that they still haven't decided on the acts when the NF is just days away. I don't know how they do it.....

A-lister
19th December 2012, 21:02
It's so strange that they still haven't decided on the acts when the NF is just days away. I don't know how they do it.....

I know right? The deadline is on 21st when the jury will also choose the songs for the final :lol:

Remember in 2010 when they arranged a whole new NF in just a week's time? :lol:

One can say many things about Ukraine, but they are really masters at doing stuff quickly.

But since the winner is probably already decided it's not that hard :lol:

Matt
19th December 2012, 21:05
Remember in 2010 when they arranged a whole new NF in just a week's time? :lol:

One can say many things about Ukraine, but they are really masters at doing stuff quickly.



But as you may recall, the winning song was disqualified cause it broke the contest rules so they didn't that good of a job. But then again, Ukraine's NFs always end up with some sort of drama and it kind of has become a tradition so let's see what they have in store for us this time.

A-lister
19th December 2012, 21:09
But as you may recall, the winning song was disqualified cause it broke the contest rules so they didn't that good of a job. But then again, Ukraine's NFs always end up with some sort of drama and it kind of has become a tradition so let's see what they have in store for us this time.

How can one forget :lol:

But they still arranged the whole thing though with just a week's preparation. I mean all the acts, choreographies, technical aspects and all. I mean sure it was filmed in a studio, but still, they managed to collect like 20? or so acts in just some week.

I love drama, where's the popcorn smiley when needed? :lol:

CypriotGirl
19th December 2012, 22:48
02. Julia Kunitsa

Is this one relative of one forum member? :o xrofl2

A-lister
19th December 2012, 22:49
Is this one relative of one forum member? :o xrofl2

WHO??

Mickey
19th December 2012, 23:30
Apparently this is the list of acts that applied to the Ukrainian selection. NTU will pick 20 of them for the final on 23rd December:

13. Vitaly Galai


This makes me happy. His bad vocals in last year's NF were hilarious.

A-lister
19th December 2012, 23:54
This makes me happy. His bad vocals in last year's NF were hilarious.

I have no idea who he is, he was in the selection last year?

edit:

I just checked him up, no wonder my mind had to get rid of that awfulness :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95miBJQ42m4

Mickey
20th December 2012, 00:35
I have no idea who he is, he was in the selection last year?

edit:

I just checked him up, no wonder my mind had to get rid of that awfulness :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95miBJQ42m4

You have to admire how much he goes for it, though. There's no holding back from Vitaly.

Margerita86
20th December 2012, 00:39
Oh god, just the starting number alone makes me remember him. Please spare my ears and don't let him be one of the contestants in the NF.

yulichka
20th December 2012, 11:36
Alina Grosu - Let Go


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84SbfefdEqA

GRE
20th December 2012, 13:45
Is this the clone of Anni Lorak?

yulichka
20th December 2012, 15:51
Alina is in search for her own style I guess she is on the right path if to compare with her previous ugly experience. Personally, I do not like her or her songs, this entry is just meh :) Hopefully, there will be nicer songs :)

A-lister
20th December 2012, 17:00
Is this the clone of Anni Lorak?

Alina wishes :lol: But there are some resemblances career-wise (although Ani Lorak is a much bigger success).

She started out as a child-star when she was just about 5 years old (Ani Lorak also started out as a child, around 8 years old or something).

Alina

2004 :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdlWT78AZLQ

2010 I think with this song she proved that she could be taken serious as an artist, although she's only like 15 here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_kBkYf4vuE

yulichka
20th December 2012, 19:11
Well, I would not say their career has any resemblance since Ani started with all the song contests and was never really popular at her early age, while Alina was pretty much helped by her dad. I'm not saying she is not talented, she writes cute songs and sings nice, but there are thousands of girls with her potentials.

A-lister
20th December 2012, 19:19
Well, I would not say their career has any resemblance since Ani started with all the song contests and was never really popular at her early age, while Alina was pretty much helped by her dad. I'm not saying she is not talented, she writes cute songs and sings nice, but there are thousands of girls with her potentials.

I meant the resemblance in that they started early as kids and then went on to have pop careers, but other than that they are very differently. Ani's early stuff aren't really childish stuff like Alina's were (if I remember it correctly).

yulichka
20th December 2012, 21:21
I meant the resemblance in that they started early as kids and then went on to have pop careers, but other than that they are very differently. Ani's early stuff aren't really childish stuff like Alina's were (if I remember it correctly).

Fortunately, it's the only similarity :)