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escYOUnited
27th April 2012, 04:02
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Sean
28th April 2012, 12:44
Come back and send Sun Glitters!

GRE
28th April 2012, 14:37
They wont be back,i think.

Fluke
28th April 2012, 15:17
I really don't get why it's such a problem for them, when smaller countries are in the contest currently.... maybe it's just that they have a greater chance of actually winning?

NikkiBoy
28th April 2012, 22:13
I cut be a nice show in luxembourh! xD

Matt
3rd May 2012, 19:28
RTL said that they would never return to the contest in 2005 and reiterated that they have no interest in returning to the contest in 2008. Of course that could change with new management but I don't expect to see them back anytime soon.

VasilijeM
3rd May 2012, 20:44
One of the best ESC countries! I adore some of their entries. I really miss them. :(

NikkiBoy
4th May 2012, 13:58
COME BACK! :D

DanielLuis
29th May 2012, 17:36
Euphoria is number one in the luzembourgis (?) itunes! Imagine if this country actually participated! ESC would be so popular there!

GRE
29th May 2012, 17:38
They wont return.:(

Sean
29th May 2012, 17:39
They wont return.:(

They said that for years about Italy... ;)

CPV4931
29th May 2012, 18:20
Euphoria is number one in the luzembourgis (?) itunes! Imagine if this country actually participated! ESC would be so popular there!

Also "Standing still" did/does well in their charts. And this weeks before Eurovision.

Yamarus
29th May 2012, 19:14
PLEASE Luxembourg come back! I want the Benelux to have bloc voting as well! xD xD

GRE
29th May 2012, 19:24
Please stop hoping.
This country will not come back,believe me.
Its more posible for Lictenstain to debut,but not Luxemburg to return.

AdelAdel
29th May 2012, 21:02
Most of the previous "Luxembourgish" artists were French. So even if they return there are very small chances that we would see natives.

Quent91
29th May 2012, 22:07
Italy came back just because the entertainment part of RAI changed of management and the new staff believes in Eurovision. RTL doesn't.

Stuff
28th July 2012, 20:19
L'amour est bleu is my fave song from this country, I want them back....

NikkiBoy
28th July 2012, 23:19
I think we ALL will have em' back. I hope they return a day, but it will be in 2067, LOOL :lol:

Jim
29th July 2012, 01:10
No, I believe that Luxembourg will return in 2183!

CC92
29th July 2012, 02:19
Probably they will return when France is hosting the contest. :-D

Quent91
29th July 2012, 23:27
They could have been back in 2011 when the show was held in the country next door...

NikkiBoy
30th July 2012, 09:09
They could have been back in 2011 when the show was held in the country next door...
Yes, if France, Belgium, The Netherlands or Switzerland will be the hosts, they should return! :-)

AdelAdel
30th July 2012, 13:54
They will be back if they see other small countries do well. As long as Andorra, Monaco, San Marino keep failing, they won't be back.

CC92
30th July 2012, 14:30
They could have been back in 2011 when the show was held in the country next door...

In the past, at least, RTL seemed to be related to France only. Most of the times they competed with French songs and even on the rare occasions when their entry was penned by Germans (e.g. Après toi) they still performed it in French. Which is odd considering that RTL Germany is the most popular private channel in Germany. Moreover musicwise they would have to get rid of the old-fashioned chanson style they used to come up with in the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's. I like it but Monaco in the 21st century did not get anywhere with it even though Tout de moi was quite a good song actually.

Matt
15th August 2012, 06:46
The Cultural Minister of Luxembourg has spoken about the country’s participation in the Eurovision Song Contest. Ms. Octavie Modert assured a local portal that it is up to the national broadcaster to decide if Luxembourg will once again participate in Europe’s favorite TV show. She claims that this decision can only be taken by RTL and it is not in the power of the government.
“Why RTL isn’t taking part is something only they can answer but it’s known that active membership of the UER (EBU) costs a lot of money and of course this initiative hasn’t proven successful in the past for Luxembourg”, says ms. Modert.
Luxembourg is one of the seven countries that took part in the first edition of the Eurovision Song Contest in 1956. Since then, the Grand Dutchy scored five victories in 37 appearances. After a series of bad placings the Luxembourgish broadcaster decided to withdraw from the competition making their last representation in 1993.
It is yet unknown if Luxembourg will return to the Eurovision Song Contest but according to ms. Modert it is only up to the national broadcaster RTL to decide on this.



ARTICLE (http://www.esctoday.com/?p=37154&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)

NikkiBoy
15th August 2012, 16:45
I really hope i see a return, because i was born in 1998, so i haven't see Luxembourg..

Sim
15th August 2012, 17:57
i don't think we'll see Luxembourg back until ebu do something about those fees

Matt
13th September 2012, 21:44
Unfortunate but expected

RTL,Tele Letzebuerg, the Luxemburgois national broadcaster has informed and confirmed that Luxembourg will not be participating at the 2013 Eurovision Song Contest in Malmo.


Source (http://www.esctoday.com/?p=37282)

A-lister
13th September 2012, 22:01
^
Sad but expected :(

rajo
16th September 2012, 12:25
I don't see why we should have this thread or a Luxembourg 2014 thread next year.

Jukica
16th September 2012, 19:20
Hopefully they'll be back soon :(

NikkiBoy
17th September 2012, 15:59
I don't see why we should have this thread or a Luxembourg 2014 thread next year.

Yearh, it's waste of time..

Matt
17th September 2012, 21:17
Yearh, it's waste of time..


That's what people said about Italy ;)

wyq614
29th September 2012, 22:18
What's this? Anyone has an idea? A 25-minute-long advertisement for Eurovision 2013 made by RTL titled COMEBACK?

RTL.lu - RTL Replay (http://tele.rtl.lu/waatleeft/replay/v/20120928/0/69045/)

A-lister
30th September 2012, 03:00
What's this? Anyone has an idea? A 25-minute-long advertisement for Eurovision 2013 made by RTL titled COMEBACK?

RTL.lu - RTL Replay (http://tele.rtl.lu/waatleeft/replay/v/20120928/0/69045/)

Ehm!? Where's the Eurovision advertisement in there? Did I miss something?

Nike
30th September 2012, 08:11
Ehm!? Where's the Eurovision advertisement in there? Did I miss something?

Look at 14:16 and you will see. Look at the posters... Also isn't 15.01 also about Eurovision??

Sim
30th September 2012, 08:24
maybe those posters at 14:12 were just hanging there xp

I don't think we'll see them back

Sean
30th September 2012, 15:14
Seems interesting... but they already said they wouldn't enter so I dunno what to say xD

A-lister
30th September 2012, 15:41
Look at 14:16 and you will see. Look at the posters... Also isn't 15.01 also about Eurovision??

Well, I stopped watching after a while. It was a weird thing. Although it was interesting to listen to some Luxembourgish, it's not something you hear everyday. I understood some of it... it's like German, Flemish and French mixed to one :)

Not sure if that's some 'hidden sign', but of course it would be great to see them back (maybe in Luxembourgish? ;))... but I highly doubt it, I think it's just a coincidence.

Schlagerman1
30th September 2012, 15:48
What does the poster say? I understand Luxembourg, what is ass Dobai? "In Dubai" or what? :S

Not that I can speak flemish, but don't they show their last eurovision entry from 1993 and then saying that it will be some kind of contest for eurovision like the one Germany had the recent years. Maybe it is just for this program, but it looked very weird indeed. xD

Maybe it is a way for the filmmaker to just say how much he wants Luxembourg to enter eurovision? ;)

toinou03
30th September 2012, 16:04
It's a trailer for a new serie about a band trying to convince an old luxemburguese star to be chosen with them by Luxemburg television to represent the duchy on Eurovision !

dizzydjc
30th September 2012, 16:17
Well if it takes off in Luxembourg, surely public opinion would be for them to ACTUALLY go to ESC?

Can't wait to see how this pans out.

NemesisNick
29th January 2013, 17:41
Luxembourg last entered ESC in 1993 with "Donne-moi Une Chance" by Modern Times. That's 20 years ago this year. They're not in the 2013 Contest. Who knows, they could still come back one day.

Luxembourg last hosted the ESC in 1984. On YouTube I've just found the version of the 1984 ESC opening sequence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9PdkgZCG6k&ytsession=gdFg78mxxYidVQYh5k2swAoTxbeySUjxCPrRfRa7 86xqned1iP-SwXn8kxZ0faPhf87H5pDod4Eh5i0pZgH8Mozg6rFbgI0GiQbHN 7WQHOecmpy3n1_TI6I8GyQnvnUkv_HMUSrpJFiy7g_auBsjCQ0 evPUUdIYyxyRW-G5Gl3SMojX1z4LMQIbAIeM-hYiAA_shZpUfMRE49s_gAdUupBRKbAqAvTefUud5si_n6XIM5F BK1p_Wv-VWE57xZZSFoYlkja7X4kiBEXG8Aryy7hlyr3YrZ2MghL7hxGYu o2_B9EZ8ckiiDN-toFJ-Q_zBuEnRWNbTpoCR-3H6MmU0ISZO46NwwLdobPVhCZYphedo21n4FqYoUX-g1Vr8r9ObzhJnl3FRbfWyUcTFPjB_gy6zlODENtlgyWZhm3faI uixT4nb-yAQM4GCXacpbDorNUMV_vGCHH_gXVqamt-26rIfHnlIYfyOKaVvjbylguKpQaFcWiUzj5gBDZF_CMN0Xq11O 0tml68uhtmHI19H3SPQjT_rmfoWJ-c2QW1aaYCIJfzuoNUicAMqTM7V-r8eLpsmtuESMORb3gWiS_Kr7N8JoXkAUKyOvBUaarMS8U8fLCi hBJvaj_yKNzu0XqjB2sYfh9imrLlqnudjIxlCVD0ok41wVCKi1 JdJoHBSWze0nJeKB_FdN50Mou2CYntM) that was shown in the UK, with Terry Wogan's commentary. At 1:57 Terry says:

"Luxembourg itself is only aproximately 85 kilometres wide with a population in total of 350,000".

If Luxembourg is that tiny, is there really any point in it being a country in its own right? Being such a minute country, why don't they just remove the Belgium-Luxembourg border and make Luxembourg part of Belgium?

Quent91
29th January 2013, 17:48
why don't they just remove the Belgium-Luxembourg border and make Luxembourg part of Belgium?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

They will never accept to be rattached to Wallonia :lol: They are richer than them...

QwaarJet
29th January 2013, 18:25
Luxembourg last entered ESC in 1993 with "Donne-moi Une Chance" by Modern Times. That's 20 years ago this year. They're not in the 2013 Contest. Who knows, they could still come back one day.

Luxembourg last hosted the ESC in 1984. On YouTube I've just found the version of the 1984 ESC opening sequence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9PdkgZCG6k&ytsession=gdFg78mxxYidVQYh5k2swAoTxbeySUjxCPrRfRa7 86xqned1iP-SwXn8kxZ0faPhf87H5pDod4Eh5i0pZgH8Mozg6rFbgI0GiQbHN 7WQHOecmpy3n1_TI6I8GyQnvnUkv_HMUSrpJFiy7g_auBsjCQ0 evPUUdIYyxyRW-G5Gl3SMojX1z4LMQIbAIeM-hYiAA_shZpUfMRE49s_gAdUupBRKbAqAvTefUud5si_n6XIM5F BK1p_Wv-VWE57xZZSFoYlkja7X4kiBEXG8Aryy7hlyr3YrZ2MghL7hxGYu o2_B9EZ8ckiiDN-toFJ-Q_zBuEnRWNbTpoCR-3H6MmU0ISZO46NwwLdobPVhCZYphedo21n4FqYoUX-g1Vr8r9ObzhJnl3FRbfWyUcTFPjB_gy6zlODENtlgyWZhm3faI uixT4nb-yAQM4GCXacpbDorNUMV_vGCHH_gXVqamt-26rIfHnlIYfyOKaVvjbylguKpQaFcWiUzj5gBDZF_CMN0Xq11O 0tml68uhtmHI19H3SPQjT_rmfoWJ-c2QW1aaYCIJfzuoNUicAMqTM7V-r8eLpsmtuESMORb3gWiS_Kr7N8JoXkAUKyOvBUaarMS8U8fLCi hBJvaj_yKNzu0XqjB2sYfh9imrLlqnudjIxlCVD0ok41wVCKi1 JdJoHBSWze0nJeKB_FdN50Mou2CYntM) that was shown in the UK, with Terry Wogan's commentary. At 1:57 Terry says:

"Luxembourg itself is only aproximately 85 kilometres wide with a population in total of 350,000".

If Luxembourg is that tiny, is there really any point in it being a country in its own right? Being such a minute country, why don't they just remove the Belgium-Luxembourg border and make Luxembourg part of Belgium?

I seem to recall Iceland has an even smaller population than that, but they seem to get on well as their own country.

watersoup
30th January 2013, 01:44
Luxembourg last entered ESC in 1993 with "Donne-moi Une Chance" by Modern Times. That's 20 years ago this year. They're not in the 2013 Contest. Who knows, they could still come back one day.

Luxembourg last hosted the ESC in 1984. On YouTube I've just found the version of the 1984 ESC opening sequence (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9PdkgZCG6k&ytsession=gdFg78mxxYidVQYh5k2swAoTxbeySUjxCPrRfRa7 86xqned1iP-SwXn8kxZ0faPhf87H5pDod4Eh5i0pZgH8Mozg6rFbgI0GiQbHN 7WQHOecmpy3n1_TI6I8GyQnvnUkv_HMUSrpJFiy7g_auBsjCQ0 evPUUdIYyxyRW-G5Gl3SMojX1z4LMQIbAIeM-hYiAA_shZpUfMRE49s_gAdUupBRKbAqAvTefUud5si_n6XIM5F BK1p_Wv-VWE57xZZSFoYlkja7X4kiBEXG8Aryy7hlyr3YrZ2MghL7hxGYu o2_B9EZ8ckiiDN-toFJ-Q_zBuEnRWNbTpoCR-3H6MmU0ISZO46NwwLdobPVhCZYphedo21n4FqYoUX-g1Vr8r9ObzhJnl3FRbfWyUcTFPjB_gy6zlODENtlgyWZhm3faI uixT4nb-yAQM4GCXacpbDorNUMV_vGCHH_gXVqamt-26rIfHnlIYfyOKaVvjbylguKpQaFcWiUzj5gBDZF_CMN0Xq11O 0tml68uhtmHI19H3SPQjT_rmfoWJ-c2QW1aaYCIJfzuoNUicAMqTM7V-r8eLpsmtuESMORb3gWiS_Kr7N8JoXkAUKyOvBUaarMS8U8fLCi hBJvaj_yKNzu0XqjB2sYfh9imrLlqnudjIxlCVD0ok41wVCKi1 JdJoHBSWze0nJeKB_FdN50Mou2CYntM) that was shown in the UK, with Terry Wogan's commentary. At 1:57 Terry says:

"Luxembourg itself is only aproximately 85 kilometres wide with a population in total of 350,000".

If Luxembourg is that tiny, is there really any point in it being a country in its own right? Being such a minute country, why don't they just remove the Belgium-Luxembourg border and make Luxembourg part of Belgium?

Yep. And, come to think of it, the UK is pretty small too. Why don't we just become part of France?

NemesisNick
30th January 2013, 17:09
:lol: :lol: :lol:

They will never accept to be rattached to Wallonia :lol: They are richer than them...
Which is richer - Wallonia or Luxembourg?


Yep. And, come to think of it, the UK is pretty small too. Why don't we just become part of France?
UK is a much bigger country than Luxembourg. It was said in the 1984 ESC opening that Luxembourg is only about 85 kilometres (just over 50 miles) wide. Bristol to London by motorway is over twice that distance. Also try measuring the distance John O'Groats to Land's End as the crow flies. Several times the width of Luxembourg.

A-lister
30th January 2013, 17:17
^
As long as a country has a language of its own, it also has an own national identity. So as long as Luxembourg is a democratic free nation that doesn't disturb its neighbors or terrorize its own people then why are we even having this discussion?

Long live an independent Luxembourg!

Quent91
30th January 2013, 18:22
Which is richer - Wallonia or Luxembourg?

Luxembourg of course

NemesisNick
31st January 2013, 12:44
^
As long as a country has a language of its own, it also has an own national identity. So as long as Luxembourg is a democratic free nation that doesn't disturb its neighbors or terrorize its own people then why are we even having this discussion?

Long live an independent Luxembourg!
The point is, Luxembourg is such a tiny country in terms of geographical area covered - about 85 kilometres wide, look what a minute bit of mainland Europe it covers compared to France, Germany, or even Belgium and Netherlands. I was 12 years old when I heard Terry Wogan's statement about Luxembourg being 85 kilometres wide when I watched the 1984 ESC on BBC1 (here in the UK), and was shocked to hear how small Luxembourg is. That's what made me wonder if it's really worth Luxembourg being a country in its own right. Luxembourg must be one of the smallest countries in the world in terms of land space covered.

A-lister
31st January 2013, 12:47
The point is, Luxembourg is such a tiny country in terms of geographical area covered - about 85 kilometres wide, look what a minute bit of mainland Europe it covers compared to France, Germany, or even Belgium and Netherlands. I was 12 years old when I heard Terry Wogan's statement about Luxembourg being 85 kilometres wide when I watched the 1984 ESC on BBC1 (here in the UK), and was shocked to hear how small Luxembourg is. That's what made me wonder if it's really worth Luxembourg being a country in its own right. Luxembourg must be one of the smallest countries in the world in terms of land space covered.

So? Does it really matter?

Why would one of the richest countries in the world (per capita) even consider joining "bigger" struggling economies such as Wallonia and France? Makes zero sense.

And regardless of size, Luxembourg still has a bigger population than for instance Iceland has... but I don't think anyone is suggesting Iceland would become a part of Norway or the UK?

GRE
31st January 2013, 12:49
But Andorra,San Marino,Lichtenstein,Monaco are smaller,aren't they?
They are still independent.

VikingTiger
31st January 2013, 12:56
Well, when it comes to the population smaller countries have (and still are) entered the competition:
Luxembourg has actually almost half a million inhabitants, while Iceland with its just over 300 000 inhab and San Marino with app 31 500 inhab have much smaller populations.
Out of the ESC "microstates" I would prefer Luxembourg to come back the most. They should be able to come up with both decent entries and decent artists with a population of half a million.

VikingTiger
31st January 2013, 12:57
...and out of the microstates Lux is the one that I guess would see less problems coping with a win.

Mickey
31st January 2013, 15:01
...and out of the microstates Lux is the one that I guess would see less problems coping with a win.

Yeah, they have D'Coque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Coque), an obvious venue. Don't think Iceland or San Marino have anything comparable.

A-lister
31st January 2013, 15:08
Yeah, they have D'Coque (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Coque), an obvious venue. Don't think Iceland or San Marino have anything comparable.

Iceland has: Egilshöll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egilsh%C3%B6ll), so I don't see a problem there.

San Marino on the other hand could be an issue... the largest venue for concerts can take just around 1.800 people (with a normal-sized concert stage in a smaller venue that is):

Sport Doums - Concerti - Multieventi (http://www.multieventi.sm/on-line/home/attivita-non-sportiva/concerti.html)

http://www.medicinadellosport.sm/images/Multieventi3.jpg

Mickey
31st January 2013, 15:23
Iceland has: Egilshöll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egilsh%C3%B6ll), so I don't see a problem there.

San Marino on the other hand could be an issue... the largest concert venue has less than 900 seats :lol: :

Teatro Nuovo (http://www.visitsanmarino.com/on-line/en/home/experience/leisure-and-entertainment/scheda31097792.html)

I had found Egilshöll. The thing is it doesn't seem to have tiered seating. Just looks like a big shed. I wouldn't say it was ideal.

http://img.visir.is/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=XZ&Date=20040818&Category=VIDSKIPTI&ArtNo=408180400&Ref=AR&NoBorder&MaxW=800&MaxH=700

A-lister
31st January 2013, 15:27
^
True, but maybe it could be arranged somehow xshrug

NemesisNick
1st February 2013, 11:21
So? Does it really matter?

Why would one of the richest countries in the world (per capita) even consider joining "bigger" struggling economies such as Wallonia and France? Makes zero sense.
I've just found out from Wikipedia that as well as the country Luxembourg (officially Grand Duchy of Luxembourg), there's also the southernmost province of the Wallonia part of Belgium also called Luxembourg.

On those grounds the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg ought to be merged with Luxembourg (Wallonia province) to make one bigger Luxembourg province as part of the Wallonia part of Belgium.


And regardless of size, Luxembourg still has a bigger population than for instance Iceland has... but I don't think anyone is suggesting Iceland would become a part of Norway or the UK?
Well Iceland may have a smaller population than Grand Duchy of Luxembourg, but in terms of geographical area (square kilometres) it's much a much bigger area than Grand Duchy of Luxembourg.

whiteshoes
1st February 2013, 11:34
Iceland has also the Harpa concert hall
very nice building, but only 1,600 seating capacity I think... might be way too small for such a big event

watersoup
1st February 2013, 18:19
I've just found out from Wikipedia that as well as the country Luxembourg (officially Grand Duchy of Luxembourg), there's also the southernmost province of the Wallonia part of Belgium also called Luxembourg.

On those grounds the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg ought to be merged with Luxembourg (Wallonia province) to make one bigger Luxembourg province as part of the Wallonia part of Belgium.

Why do you despise the existence of Luxembourg so much? :confused:

Yamarus
3rd February 2013, 12:24
I've just found out from Wikipedia that as well as the country Luxembourg (officially Grand Duchy of Luxembourg), there's also the southernmost province of the Wallonia part of Belgium also called Luxembourg.

On those grounds the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg ought to be merged with Luxembourg (Wallonia province) to make one bigger Luxembourg province as part of the Wallonia part of Belgium

You are supremely ignorant of the context surrounding the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg and I suggest you just give it a rest. I would give you a history lesson, but this is neither my wish nor the adequate topic.

cegs5
4th February 2013, 09:33
LOL So much ignorance in this topic... :lol:
Hopefully Luxembourg come back some day

GRE
24th April 2013, 08:02
From esctoday

A new article has appeared in an English language Luxembourg magazine Delano about the Grand Duchy's 20-year-long exile from the Eurovision Song Contest.

Rather than relying on age old rumours and assumptions about why Luxembourg has not taken part in the Eurovision Song Contest since 1993, the author Neel Chrillesen has actually spoken to those who eventually decide on the matter.

We learn that the return to the Eurovision Song Contest is a recurring parliamentary question in the Grand Duchy, the theme of a hit sitcom and an issue that irritates the boss of the national broadcaster RTL.

So why has one of the founding members of the contest, and a five time winner returned to the song contest after what many thought only to be a temporary break?

The issue was raised once again in the Luxembourg parliament last year, and the Minister of Culture Octavia Modert replied, according to Delano, that the country had better ways to promote its culture and passed the buck to the national broadcaster, as it is them who can enter the contest rather than states.

Many have assumed, wrongly, that the Luxembourgish national broadcaster RTL was no longer a full member of the European Broadcasting Union, EBU.

Alain Berwick, CEO of RTL tells Delano: Not quite so. We have kept our membership card and the cost of entering today is affordable. However the financial burden of hosting in the case of a Luxembourg victory is the fact that is preventing RTL of entering.

As we know the cost has escalated in the past few years, from the around 15 million Euro in Helsinki in 2007 to an estimated 100 million in Baku last year – this however included a newly built arena.

The president of the fan club OGAE Luxembourg, Eric L, tells Delano that he thinks part of the problem is that RTL is a private broadcaster and could not expect the government of the Grand Duchy to subsidise the event if they needed to host it again.

Also people have been saying that Luxembourg hasn't got a big enough venue to host, continues Eric. But now that the Swedish organisers have downscaled the event I am sure one of our venues would indeed be big enough, he concludes.

But Mr Berwick of RTL is not giving the fans much hope: We’re not against Eurovision as such and we would have nothing against helping promote Luxembourg and artists here by participating, but apart from the fact that it would be too expensive to host, it just doesn’t interest people anymore. They prefer watching shows like Nouvelle Star or Pop Idol.

Some former Luxembourger representatives have also talked to Delano about a possible return. Jimmy Martin of the last Luxembourg entry in 1993 would jump at a chance to take part again. Eurovision is a contest between songwriters and that is why the comparison with talent shows is just not working, he responds.

Anne-Marie David, French singer who won the Eurovision Song Contest for Luxembourg in 1972 is as enthusiastic. I would do anything to get Luxembourg back. It’s a huge mistake to stay away. Thanks to Eurovision a country can shine in front of millions of people, participating should be part of the constitution, she enthuses to Delano.

The sitcom Comeback was aimed at a young audience and proved very popular. It tells the story of an 80s star Ronny Riff who wants to stage a comeback to the 2013 Eurovision Song Contest, and was also broadcast by RTL. The fans hoping fiction meeting reality were disappointed however; the show remained just fiction.

The producer of the sitcom Bernard Michaux reveals that they did receive a lot of positive feedback about taking up the subject. We knew all along that RTL would not go to Malmö, but of course we would have taken the chance had they changed their mind, he tells Delano.

But in a note echoing the attitude by the RTL bosses he then concludes: Eurovision worked well with our young target audience because it’s trash.

OGAE Luxembourg is organising a preview event on Saturday 27 April at the cultural centre in Bivange.

NemesisNick
24th April 2013, 10:04
I think that's the problem facing a lot of countries; hosting the ESC would be prohibitively expensive as it's simply got too big!

For the last decade I've noticed each country seems to want to out-do its predecessors on hosting, i.e. each host country seems to have wanted to do a bigger and better Contest than the country that hosted it the previous year. There's a limit to how long that trend can continue, countries can only go so far with hosting an event. It would appear to me as though the bubble is about to burst (or has burst).

How about scaling the event back a bit. By all means have the two semi-finals during the week in the same arena as the final on Saturday night, but do they need such an enormous arena?

dizzydjc
24th April 2013, 10:29
Well, it seems positive that they have acknowledged that downscaling is what Sweden is aiming to do.

Maybe, just maybe they will try out again in the next couple of years? Would love to see them return.

GRE
24th April 2013, 11:31
I can see them back,only if France wins,Netherlands have a top10,and San Marino qualify in the Final. :D

cassio
24th April 2013, 11:44
I don't get it. If the cost today is the problem why didn't they return in 1998 were the cost was low.... And why is it Sweden who has to lower the cost first and not themselfs if the won..... They could just lower the cost themselves....... No it is not about money. Rather than a question of will and politics

NemesisNick
20th March 2014, 17:14
Why do you despise the existence of Luxembourg so much? :confused:
The reason is, I don't see how an area of land just about 85 kilometres wide can justify being a country in its own right. To be a country in its own right, Luxembourg needs its own government and head of state. I don't see how they can justify it for such a small plot of land. The same goes for Andorra, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Monaco and Vatican City, they're all such patheticalliy minute plots of land it's ridiculous (a comical joke even) calling them countries in their own right. The debate about the world's smallest countries is being discussed in this thread World's Smallest Countries - can their existence as standalone countries be justified? (http://www.escunited.com/t9542/). There's even a poll on that thread, vote in it if you haven't already done so.

Furthermore, as I've already pointed out, the southernmost province of the Wallonia part of Belgium is called Luxembourg, and then south east of that you've got Grand Duchy of Luxembourg as a country in its own right. Daft and confusing really, what sense is there in that? Surely it would, on those grounds, make sense to remove the Belgium-Luxembourg border and thus make what's currently the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg an extension of the southernmost province of Belgium, which is already called Luxembourg.

As for Luxembourg in the ESC - I mentioned Terry Wogan's comment as heard by BBC1 viewers in the UK in the aforementioned 1984 ESC opening sequence - the last time Luxembourg hosted the ESC. Luxembourg's winning song of 1983 "Si La Vie Est Cadeau" - Corinne Hermès that resulted in them hosting the 1984 ESC is not, in my opinion, really the best song of 1983. Looking back at YouTube videos of 1983 ESC entries, Israel "Hi" - Ofra Haza (2nd) and Yugoslavia "Dzuli" - Danijel (4th) were both more worthy of winning the 1983 ESC than Luxembourg.


You are supremely ignorant of the context surrounding the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg and I suggest you just give it a rest. I would give you a history lesson, but this is neither my wish nor the adequate topic.
In what way am I ignorant about the history of Luxembourg Yamarus? Maybe a better place to explain about its history might be the thread World's Smallest Countries - can their existence as standalone countries be justified? (http://www.escunited.com/t9542/); you may wish to explain it there, or alternatively you may prefer to PM me about it.

watersoup
21st March 2014, 14:20
The reason is, I don't see how an area of land just about 85 kilometres wide can justify being a country in its own right. To be a country in its own right, Luxembourg needs its own government and head of state. I don't see how they can justify it for such a small plot of land. The same goes for Andorra, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Monaco and Vatican City, they're all such patheticalliy minute plots of land it's ridiculous (a comical joke even) calling them countries in their own right. The debate about the world's smallest countries is being discussed in this thread World's Smallest Countries - can their existence as standalone countries be justified? (http://www.escunited.com/t9542/). There's even a poll on that thread, vote in it if you haven't already done so.

Luxembourg has both of those things. It also has one of the highest standards of living in the world and a population that doesn't seem to have any desire to be part of another country. What more justification do they need?


Furthermore, as I've already pointed out, the southernmost province of the Wallonia part of Belgium is called Luxembourg, and then south east of that you've got Grand Duchy of Luxembourg as a country in its own right. Daft and confusing really, what sense is there in that? Surely it would, on those grounds, make sense to remove the Belgium-Luxembourg border and thus make what's currently the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg an extension of the southernmost province of Belgium, which is already called Luxembourg.

As a Brit, you should be the last person talking about confusing country names, what with so many people not understanding the difference between England/GB/UK. At least you have finally solved the Northern Ireland issue - after all, if two groups of people come from similar sounding places, simply removing the border between the two and merging them into one is something that can be done with no resistance, right?

NemesisNick
23rd March 2014, 17:02
Thanks for your reply to my last message watersoup, but I've decided to reply to it in the World's Smallest Countries - can their existence as standalone countries be justified? thread as I think that's a more appropriate place for it. Here is my reply to your above post (http://www.escunited.com/t9542-7/#post1226068)