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r3gg13
27th April 2012, 10:33
Let it be Jelena Rozga :D

Haustor
27th April 2012, 10:35
or Natali Dizdar.

Anjeza
27th April 2012, 12:50
Lana FTW! But I would also like to see Franka Batelic or Magazin

Cooler
27th April 2012, 13:00
Lana's nice. :) I also wouldn't mind seeing Colonia, in fact, Colonia is probably the best Croatian group ever and would represent Croatia very well, considering the genre they play + I really love Colonia. ^^ :D

Jukica
27th April 2012, 16:16
I'm for Jelena Rozga & Colonia or Lana :D

LakZaNokte
27th April 2012, 22:18
I'm for "something completely different" :D

seriously, this pop thing is going nowhere. maybe we should try some rock or something. we have plenty young hopes in that genre.

r3gg13
28th April 2012, 07:43
^ Croatia should send Teška Industrija with a good rock song!

kopachka
28th April 2012, 09:11
I'm for Jelena Rozga & Colonia or Lana :D

+1 :)

Cooler
28th April 2012, 12:19
I'm for "something completely different" :D

seriously, this pop thing is going nowhere. maybe we should try some rock or something. we have plenty young hopes in that genre.But wait, Colonia's pop and the pop's of the ex-Croatian representers isn't the same, in my opinion; Colonia is a real pop-dance and ex-representers were not, it was all very weak and bland.

I don't mind differences, always up for new things. ^^ So yeah, maybe something rocky wouldn't be bad.

Jukica
28th April 2012, 16:21
I just don't wanna any klapa for Croatia :/

But, maybe this for experimental?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk9pgnRyGvk

Tbh not sure what to think about this :lol: or how it'll do

Tinchey
29th April 2012, 01:36
Natali, Lea Dekleva or even klapa would be great! :D

r3gg13
29th April 2012, 01:58
I think a Klapa fused with modern influences would be cool to hear in ESC :)

LakZaNokte
29th April 2012, 13:12
I'm against klapa.
just 1 simple reason: don't think it will work in esc.

evilperson
30th April 2012, 06:49
Ivana Banfic with a strong and solid pop song could be great!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZklJrrGsPPk

Jukica
30th April 2012, 11:40
^ She's moved to disco/house music now :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4RGdYplXTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybRlgY6l4LA

evilperson
30th April 2012, 22:14
^ She went back to being I BEE! :lol:

If she has a good song, I think she can do well no matter the genre. :)

Jukica
1st May 2012, 11:13
^ She went back to being I BEE! :lol:

If she has a good song, I think she can do well no matter the genre. :)

I think that she said that she doesn't want to send her I Bee style to Dora / ESC, same for Žanamari and rock style :/

A-lister
1st May 2012, 14:01
My absolute #1 pick for Croatia would be:

Jelena Rozga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T7X-v3oJGw

And I actually wouldn't mind seeing Severina back, as a matter of fact she's one of the acts I'd welcome back with open arms:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXLkM5ZAwLY

Magazin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oprvfq75EoY

Colonia is a total bore these days, they were good 5-10 years ago, now all they do sound like weak copycats of their older songs.

Jukica
1st May 2012, 16:51
^ Severina gave birth to her child around 2 - 2.5 months ago, so I don't think that she would accept :(

Croatian fans want Jelena Rozga, but she refused this year :/

vatroslav_cro
2nd May 2012, 00:25
Well, if I will be in the mood to follow the ESC next year (after some big disappointments in the last few years I am considering an idea to quit it, but I will see), I would like the next ones so far:

COLONIA
Franka Batelić
Kawasaki 3p
Lana Jurčević
Natali Dizdar
Žanamari Lalić.

Maybe some other ones will be on my "wishlist" later on. :)

Sabiondo
2nd May 2012, 05:23
Im still wan't Colonia or Karma - (With something like Ko je ta) of course :mrgreen:

Gogerko
6th May 2012, 16:31
Rozga, Žanamari or Lana. 8-)

handeyener
7th May 2012, 02:39
Colonia or Jelena Rozga!

NikkiBoy
7th May 2012, 18:33
::cr Croatia's last qualfire was in 2009

Semifinal 2 - 2009: 13th Place - go to the final with help from Jury.
Final: 18th Place

2010: ...
2011: ...
2012: NEBO ♥

Somebody
7th May 2012, 22:58
Radio Luksemburg. Or maybe we should ask some American artists to participate for Croatia. Lady Gaga maybe. :D :D :D :D :D

NikkiBoy
8th May 2012, 18:00
Send Daria :D

Somebody
8th May 2012, 19:48
Send Daria :D

:D :D

NikkiBoy
10th May 2012, 21:41
Don't understand that "Celebrate" in 2011 miss the final.

r3gg13
11th May 2012, 22:26
I'd love to see another song by Tonci and Vjekoslava Huljic again :D

LakZaNokte
28th May 2012, 15:42
tbh, I have no idea WHO i want to see. it's easy to name couple of names but that doesn't mean anything without a song.

besides, it is possible that big names won't be that interested in this.

Hele.
28th May 2012, 15:51
I'd love to see another song by Tonci and Vjekoslava Huljic again :D

Me too!
Our best result ever and our last qualifier!

Jukica
29th May 2012, 01:43
tbh, I have no idea WHO i want to see. it's easy to name couple of names but that doesn't mean anything without a song.

besides, it is possible that big names won't be that interested in this.

Boris Đurđević said that he would like to go to ESC again :D but with more modern song, not like Celebrate :lol:

Hoping for Colonia :D

CypriotGirl
31st May 2012, 22:43
Lana all the way!!!!!!!

Or Colonia!

evilperson
5th June 2012, 04:19
Lana all the way!!!!!!!

Or Colonia!

Lana could be a good choice with a good song.

I don't know about Colonia, their style has gotten quite stale.

In terms of Jelena Rozga, I'd like to see her in ESC only if she has a decent song but if she's planning on peddling dated disco-folk, she can stay home.

r3gg13
5th June 2012, 06:31
Has Lana released new songs recently?

For Jelena Rozga, I'd love to see something like "Zanemari," "Bižuterija" or "Dalmatinka"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghj8oRCRhBY

sannerz
5th June 2012, 06:57
tbh, I have no idea WHO i want to see. it's easy to name couple of names but that doesn't mean anything without a song.

besides, it is possible that big names won't be that interested in this.

I agree with this.
Nina Badric is amazing, but her song sucked.

A-lister
5th June 2012, 16:07
Has Lana released new songs recently?

For Jelena Rozga, I'd love to see something like "Zanemari," "Bižuterija" or "Dalmatinka"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ghj8oRCRhBY

HipHop in ESC = failure.

Also juries/voters are not too fond of westernized pop in local languages.

I hope for Jelena, but it better be in her regular folk-pop style, otherwise I just smell another Croatian failure.

A-lister
5th June 2012, 16:10
Boris Đurđević said that he would like to go to ESC again :D but with more modern song, not like Celebrate :lol:

Hoping for Colonia :D

Celebrate was awful :lol:

Problem with Colonia is that they totally lost their mojo and haven't progressed. I love some of their earlier stuff, up until 2005 or so... but now they are like a broken record.

Jukica
5th June 2012, 20:04
Lana said that she's working on a new album :D

TBH I think that HRT will maybe choose Maja Šuput or Colonia, maybe someone from that 2012 list for Dora?

Or maybe Franka ... since she's back to Croatia? :D

Jelena Rozga said that she's afraid of non-qualifying to the final :/

LakZaNokte
6th June 2012, 00:28
Maja Šuput wouldn't be a bad choice, imo. she's cute, performes well live, has loads of experience...

I still regret 2008., she would have been better choice than Kraljevi ulice (they ended up in bottom 5)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj_xXENwuGY

Tinchey
6th June 2012, 01:25
Kraljevi ulice were great, it was something fresh. IMO :)
Although Maja wouldn't be a bad choice with a song like Raj i pakao. :D

Bojan
7th June 2012, 19:23
bring back the superstar: SEVERINA!

A-lister
8th June 2012, 03:18
bring back the superstar: SEVERINA!

Actually I would be totally ok with that, she's very diverse and great.

daniels1000
9th June 2012, 00:44
Actually,she is one of very few persons who can bring us good result :)

AdelAdel
9th June 2012, 00:49
Severina? As the one from 2006? No, thank you. Her last song was 'controversial' to say the least, plus she didn't achieve a high place.

kopachka
9th June 2012, 00:51
^ she is the biggest star in Croatia atm, and maybe in whole region... With a good song, she might be in top 10 without problems... and 12. place was not a bad result at all!

daniels1000
9th June 2012, 00:54
Severina? As the one from 2006? No, thank you. Her last song was 'controversial' to say the least, plus she didn't achieve a high place.

After 3 years failing we just need one good result :D no matter of the song

AdelAdel
9th June 2012, 00:55
^ she is the biggest star in Croatia atm, and maybe in whole region... With a good song, she might be in top 10 without problems... and 12. place was not a bad result at all!

She got 56 points, and MOST of them were from neighbors.

A-lister
9th June 2012, 01:02
She got 56 points, and MOST of them were from neighbors.

She was AMAZING! But maybe that song in particular was a little too ethno for western ears to appreciate.

But actually she'd be a great choice.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0n8f_Y4KW8Y


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXLkM5ZAwLY

^
With entries like that, Croatia could say hello to a top. 10 again!

daniels1000
9th June 2012, 01:04
But think that she is not interested in Eurovision

A-lister
9th June 2012, 01:06
But think that she is not interested in Eurovision

Yeah, she probably isn't :(

Normally I'm not for comebacks in Eurovision, but Severina really is a great artist with diversity and strong songs. I would have no problem seeing her again.

daniels1000
9th June 2012, 18:03
Yeah, she probably isn't :(

Normally I'm not for comebacks in Eurovision, but Severina really is a great artist with diversity and strong songs. I would have no problem seeing her again.

Yeah,I really want Severina,because she can have a very good song,and think that she is one of maybe two/three people who can give us some good result :D

Jukica
13th June 2012, 16:02
1 more name is interested for ESC - Franka Batelić (she said that in 1 radio show)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpzAq3ezIt4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS8Bhrmcswg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwn_Q1DcUy0

A-lister
14th June 2012, 01:17
1 more name is interested for ESC - Franka Batelić (she said that in 1 radio show)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpzAq3ezIt4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS8Bhrmcswg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwn_Q1DcUy0

Not my first choice as a candidate, but nice enough.

She was my #1 in both Dora's she entered (2009 + 2010)... I think she got robbed both times :)... Although "Pjesma za kraj" is plagiarism of "One-way ticket to the blues" :lol:

Jukica
14th June 2012, 14:28
^ She's more into electronic house like On Fire now, I think hmmm

LakZaNokte
14th June 2012, 17:25
^ She's more into electronic house like On Fire now, I think hmmm
ok, so that would be, previously mentioned, Loreen's copycat xcrash
I like Franka and I would be fine with her but not with that music, at least not next year.

Jukica
18th June 2012, 14:31
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjHkbw-Lvic&feature=g-all-u

Lana has a new single, she wants to go to ESC as well + she'll release the English version of this song in 2 weeks :D

The song is ok for me btw

marita255
20th June 2012, 20:52
I would like Franka Batelić to come, because I think she has the one of the best voices in Croatia, she would bring something new,different ;)

Emreign
23rd June 2012, 13:23
I wanna see IVAN ZAK yaaaaaaaaaay :)

Isabella
25th June 2012, 21:14
I want Lana or they can withdraw xcheer

r3gg13
25th June 2012, 21:21
I want Lana or they can withdraw xcheer

mi piace! Lana needs to go already, before she gets old and saggy :oops:! :D

(I originally put soggy by accident xrofl3)

Isabella
25th June 2012, 21:31
^ I was thinking the same :lol:. Time is ticking for her :oops:

noexcuse
26th June 2012, 15:49
I only want see Croatia in final next year.

tuorem
26th June 2012, 16:26
I only want see Croatia in final next year.

Croatia was robbed in 2010 and 2012. Let's keep our fingers crossed for you if you have another great entry :)

handeyener
26th June 2012, 17:39
Nina was awesome, shame she didn´t go with uptempo songs like this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_A5v-LUtZA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVHAEaxXefQ&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZTH9VNYRyU

And btw, Lana is not a bad choice at all :p

r3gg13
26th June 2012, 18:50
Nina should have sung something like Mama or Ljudi of ljubavi :). I agree that she was robbed!

Hele.
26th June 2012, 20:54
I don't think Nina was robbed. I just think her performance was bad. In my opinion it was too dramatic for song that asks for simplicity. I would like that in last part of the song she redressed in white dress and that LEDs turned from dark sky color to cyan color like on Dora. And definitely without unnecessary panel in the end of the song. That would be more effective, that is for sure.
She definitely has song which could bring final to her, but I think for singer of her renown she should have much better song. At least something like Dat će nam Bog. And she could make some great performance with some of dance groups of supertalent (a talent show in Croatia where she is member of jury). Something like this: Nina Badric - Dat ce nam Bog ( Supertalent ) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7j-CnfF9Ao)

Somebody
26th June 2012, 21:48
I don't think Nina was robbed. I just think her performance was bad.

And the song was bad. :D
We were robbed only in 2010.

A-lister
27th June 2012, 01:26
And the song was bad. :D
We were robbed only in 2010.

Disagree.. Nina had a good song and it appealed much more to me than the more typical entry Femminem sent.

I also disagree her uptempo stuff would be better, the only good Nina songs I've heard so far were ballads, but in general her material is kinda weak.

Jelena Rozga next year!

tuorem
27th June 2012, 23:54
Disagree.. Nina had a good song.

I also disagree her uptempo stuff would be better, the only good Nina songs I've heard so far were ballads, but in general her material is kinda weak.

Nothing to add ;)

CC92
28th June 2012, 00:52
Croatia is my all-time-favourite-country in ESC. I love their entries for 1995, 1996, 2000, 2005, 2008 and 2009 and really like all the rest except the English ones (even they were okay/would of been good in Croatian) and 2010. Would love to see a great emotional schlager ballad again. Vukovi umiru sami was unlucky to participate in 2005; I believe in most other editions it would have cracked the Top5. And I pray for DORA to be brought back again. Really, the best national final I have seen.

daniels1000
24th July 2012, 20:03
Croatia is my all-time-favourite-country in ESC. I love their entries for 1995, 1996, 2000, 2005, 2008 and 2009 and really like all the rest except the English ones (even they were okay/would of been good in Croatian) and 2010. Would love to see a great emotional schlager ballad again. Vukovi umiru sami was unlucky to participate in 2005; I believe in most other editions it would have cracked the Top5. And I pray for DORA to be brought back again. Really, the best national final I have seen.

Thank you xbow xrunhug

daniels1000
24th July 2012, 20:04
Croatia is in Sweden next year!!!!!!!!! :D xheart xyes xyes xjump

I was scared that we will withdraw. xbow

CPV4931
24th July 2012, 21:24
Good news :-)
I hope, they will send a decent song and go to the final again.

A-lister
24th July 2012, 22:12
Croatia is my all-time-favourite-country in ESC. I love their entries for 1995, 1996, 2000, 2005, 2008 and 2009 and really like all the rest except the English ones (even they were okay/would of been good in Croatian) and 2010. Would love to see a great emotional schlager ballad again. Vukovi umiru sami was unlucky to participate in 2005; I believe in most other editions it would have cracked the Top5. And I pray for DORA to be brought back again. Really, the best national final I have seen.

While it's not my all-time favorite country, it's indeed among my all-time favorite ESC countries. The last decade has been quite uneven though, I also like the 2005 entry alot (but I wouldn't call it schlager ballad?? more like ethno/dalmatin/balkan ballad?), aswell as 2006, then I didn't really like any Croatian entry for 5 years in a row (2009 was ok-ish). Nina belongs to my favorites from the past 10 years of Croatian entries, interestingly cause I didn't like her as a pick nor the song from the get-go, but it totally grew on me and I think she deserved a better outcome.

I hope though they will find back to those glory days, and yeah I also miss Dora, but quite often the wrong entries have been chosen from there but nevertheless would be nice to have it back as it was indeed one of the strongest national selections.

My first pick for 2013 would be Jelena Rozga however, if she is interested that is.

r3gg13
25th July 2012, 00:26
I hope it is really Rozga next year. It's high time Croatia chose her

daniels1000
25th July 2012, 12:17
While it's not my all-time favorite country, it's indeed among my all-time favorite ESC countries. The last decade has been quite uneven though, I also like the 2005 entry alot (but I wouldn't call it schlager ballad?? more like ethno/dalmatin/balkan ballad?), aswell as 2006, then I didn't really like any Croatian entry for 5 years in a row (2009 was ok-ish). Nina belongs to my favorites from the past 10 years of Croatian entries, interestingly cause I didn't like her as a pick nor the song from the get-go, but it totally grew on me and I think she deserved a better outcome.

I hope though they will find back to those glory days, and yeah I also miss Dora, but quite often the wrong entries have been chosen from there but nevertheless would be nice to have it back as it was indeed one of the strongest national selections.

My first pick for 2013 would be Jelena Rozga however, if she is interested that is.

Thanks xbow

For Jelena Rozga,I think she isn't interested.I don't know if you know it,but there were some rumors that she was invited also for Eurovision 2012,but she refused it because she don't want to achieve bad result and then become less popular.It was something like this :?

NikkiBoy
25th July 2012, 12:44
I was a worry kind.. BUT YES CROATIA! <3 I liked Celebrate! ;-* or something like 2009? DRAMATIC. SO HAPPY! AHAHAHA xD :geek:

CC92
25th July 2012, 13:38
While it's not my all-time favorite country, it's indeed among my all-time favorite ESC countries. The last decade has been quite uneven though, I also like the 2005 entry alot (but I wouldn't call it schlager ballad?? more like ethno/dalmatin/balkan ballad?), aswell as 2006, then I didn't really like any Croatian entry for 5 years in a row (2009 was ok-ish). Nina belongs to my favorites from the past 10 years of Croatian entries, interestingly cause I didn't like her as a pick nor the song from the get-go, but it totally grew on me and I think she deserved a better outcome.

I hope though they will find back to those glory days, and yeah I also miss Dora, but quite often the wrong entries have been chosen from there but nevertheless would be nice to have it back as it was indeed one of the strongest national selections.

My first pick for 2013 would be Jelena Rozga however, if she is interested that is.

I agree that recent years were a bit of a letdown. 2010 and 2011 were weak and while I like Nebo too it stood very small chances from the beginning. But "the traditional Dora's" track record was not bad actually; in all years but one they qualified or prequalified for the final which already is like a place in the upper half. So I really hope it will make a come-back.

CC92
25th July 2012, 13:59
Thank you xbow xrunhug

:oops: :D

Jukica
27th July 2012, 10:30
Natalie Dizdar said that she would like to go to ESC if she'll have a good song :o she and Franka are maybe biggest Croatian stars from some Pop Idol competitions


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjBwNIwaI2I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6shSQdqxlss

Tinchey
6th August 2012, 01:54
OMG Natali would be amazing choice!!! :o

NikkiBoy
9th August 2012, 18:26
MARIJA MAGDALEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!<3

r3gg13
9th August 2012, 20:56
Natalie Dizdar said that she would like to go to ESC if she'll have a good song :o she and Franka are maybe biggest Croatian stars from some Pop Idol competitions


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjBwNIwaI2I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6shSQdqxlss

She's really good :D

but you know, there's a lady named Lana Jurcevic who's also good xbunnyxbunny

Hele.
9th August 2012, 23:33
Lana has published single in English! :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqDgLy3S1P0

LakZaNokte
10th August 2012, 11:43
Natalie Dizdar said that she would like to go to ESC if she'll have a good song :o
I would so love that :D
she is a fantastic performer, with a decent song, she could do very well xbow

evilperson
12th August 2012, 01:58
OMG Natali would be amazing choice!!! :o

She definitely would, with the right song of course! :)

vatroslav_cro
21st August 2012, 18:57
Colonia,
Lana Jurcevic,
Franka....my top 3 for now.
Of course, with the songs that suits them good:) Not cheesy, lame or outdated pop, schlager or something like that (of course). I mean, we had enough failures in the last few years....
I really think, after 4 years, it's time to come back to the ESC final again!

handeyener
21st August 2012, 19:45
Colonia or Franka. I agree the main problem has been the song and also performance.

LakZaNokte
22nd August 2012, 10:25
Colonia,

...Not cheesy, lame or outdated pop...
don't u think those 2 things exclude each other? :mrgreen:

vatroslav_cro
22nd August 2012, 11:56
LakZaNokte*

Colonia - but whole Colonia, not the "parts" of them - as we had in some previous years - could bring us back to the ESC top 10. I adore them, one of my favourite bands. I think they would be perfect in Sweden!:)

LakZaNokte
22nd August 2012, 18:54
LakZaNokte*

Colonia - but whole Colonia, not the "parts" of them - as we had in some previous years - could bring us back to the ESC top 10. I adore them, one of my favourite bands. I think they would be perfect in Sweden!:)
sorry but I have to disagree xshrug
besides, the most important part was already on esc - songwriter. with Celebrate.
nuff said xrofl2

vatroslav_cro
22nd August 2012, 19:35
well Colonia is one of my fav bands.....Indira has a lot of positive energy, she can bring it to the public....and with a really good song they would be a good choice.:)

A-lister
22nd August 2012, 23:00
well Colonia is one of my fav bands.....Indira has a lot of positive energy, she can bring it to the public....and with a really good song they would be a good choice.:)

I liked Colonia... but they lost their mojo so to speak... they are really not the same band as they once were, their glory days are over. I find them just making weak versions of their older songs these days.

Nope, it better will be Jelena Rozga!! Something like this new song by her would be fab! :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC3gU9ufcp4&feature=plcp

Hele.
22nd August 2012, 23:04
I also hope that Rozga will go! That woman tried so many times at Dora (what with Magazin, what alone) and was so many times close! She always was in the top! It is really high time for her to go! I really hope for her in Malmo this year! xcheer

A-lister
22nd August 2012, 23:05
I also hope that Rozga will go! That woman tried so many times at Dora (what with Magazin, what alone) and was so many times close! She always was in the top! It is really high time for her to go! I really hope for her in Malmo this year! xcheer

xcheer

vatroslav_cro
22nd August 2012, 23:20
Rozga this Rozga that....haha, it seems people just don't want to give up from her...hmmmm......well....I am not surprised lol...but I think that the ones who are burning to see her on ESC stage, will be pretty disappointed since she is not really interested for performing in Dora (at least, I heard that)...so don't "jump" at me:)

btw, hello Erik!!!

A-lister
23rd August 2012, 00:30
Rozga this Rozga that....haha, it seems people just don't want to give up from her...hmmmm......well....I am not surprised lol...but I think that the ones who are burning to see her on ESC stage, will be pretty disappointed since she is not really interested for performing in Dora (at least, I heard that)...so don't "jump" at me:)

btw, hello Erik!!!

No one's jumping on you ;) Maybe if she was internally chosen she'd say yes?

Well hello! Where have u been? It's been a while :)

vatroslav_cro
23rd August 2012, 11:18
Well this year she said she doesn't want to go for ESC. From the next year, there wil be no internal selections (there were some information about it), so I suppose that every country will have to organize the festival to choose the ESC entry....

Erik: I am here as you can see. I was not active for 2-3 months, but now I am here again:) still alive lol! you can send me PM if you want.

CypriotGirl
23rd August 2012, 12:21
Colonia,
Lana Jurcevic,
Franka....my top 3 for now.
Of course, with the songs that suits them good:) Not cheesy, lame or outdated pop, schlager or something like that (of course). I mean, we had enough failures in the last few years....
I really think, after 4 years, it's time to come back to the ESC final again!

I approve any of these!

+Jelena Rozga. With a pop-folk song in her style she would be a great choice!

Hele.
23rd August 2012, 12:53
Rozga this Rozga that....haha, it seems people just don't want to give up from her...hmmmm......well....I am not surprised lol...but I think that the ones who are burning to see her on ESC stage, will be pretty disappointed since she is not really interested for performing in Dora (at least, I heard that)...so don't "jump" at me:)

btw, hello Erik!!!

Then she will change her mind! xdance

Hele.
23rd August 2012, 13:08
All Jelena Rozga's tries at Dora.

1996. (Solo) - 2nd place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQxzH-eNNsU

1997. (with Magazin) - 7th place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srucl7yTlrE

1998. (with Magazin) - 6th place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMwwRwYZm8

1999. (with Magazin) - 5th place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHs3DoGs31o

2000. (with Magazin) - 5h place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ObeZrX0dbw

2005. (with Magazin) - 2nd place, out of all wrong choices of Croatia (and there were a lot of them xrollinglol), I regret most for this one xcry1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhvNS7avWG0

2006. (with Magazin) - 8th place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmLEGc2Kds8

2006. (Solo) - 6th place (this one is also great)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTG4bc0Vvfw

2007. (Solo) - 7th place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHFdEcVvYrM

Kryptonite
23rd August 2012, 13:22
^

I had no idea she tried so maaaany times. :o

CypriotGirl
23rd August 2012, 13:51
Oh, she tried more times than Claudia Faniello! :o

Hele.
23rd August 2012, 13:52
xrollinglol Well, 9 at all (but 6 of that 9 times were with Magazin and 3 as soloist). ;)

vatroslav_cro
23rd August 2012, 13:55
If she is managed to make a song like "Na svijetu sve" (Dora 1998), or ANYTHING similar, then maybe I would support her. But it was with Magazin and it was something different. "Aha" (Dora 1996) was pretty good too.
Otherwise, thanks but no thanks! Next please:)

CC92
23rd August 2012, 15:10
1998. (with Magazin) - 6th place


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMwwRwYZm8

Isn't this a plagiarism of Nostalgija?

vatroslav_cro
23rd August 2012, 16:20
Nope, it isn't.

Hele.
23rd August 2012, 17:08
I also do not see similarities between Nostalgija and Na svijetu sve. Btw, same author wrote both songs so than he would plagiary himself. xrollinglol

CC92
23rd August 2012, 17:27
You do not hear even similarities? Really? I think some parts are the same. But I am not a studied musician or so that I could properly judge; it is just my impression which might be far off. :)

vatroslav_cro
23rd August 2012, 21:40
Well it IS a bit far off.....ok, some parts are similar, it is from the same composer so it is natural.:)

Matt
12th October 2012, 21:42
The Croatian Eurovision site eurosong.hr (http://www.eurosong.hr/) has lead a query with a question “Who do you want to represent Croatia in Malmö” over the last few weeks. After a month of voting, the winner was Franka Batelić, who tried to represent Croatia twice before.

http://escxtra.com/wp-content/plugins/simple-post-thumbnails/timthumb.php?src=/wp-content/thumbnails/40385.jpg&w=600&h=215&zc=1&ft=jpg&q=90


READ ARTICLE (http://escxtra.com/2012/10/the-fans-want-franka)

evilperson
12th October 2012, 22:34
Franka Batelic... I only liked one song from her. Both of her Dora tries were pretty dull/dated and I doubt she wouldve achieved anything at ESC with those songs.

It's too bad Nina wasted her chance at ESC with such a non-song, she should get another shot in the future.

A-lister
13th October 2012, 01:42
So Jelena Rozga is totally out of the picture then? :(

Hele.
14th October 2012, 01:05
So Jelena Rozga is totally out of the picture then? :(

In some TV show Jelena said that she doesn't want to go at esc. xshrug She still continues with same story - afraid of bad placement. Now she has alibi "with what happen to Nina Badric". :rolleyes:
Moment when she says it (25:55-27:10): Jelena Rozga u emisiji Studio 45 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=extijU590WY)
She says that she might change her opinion in few years. ;)

Hele.
14th October 2012, 01:07
The Croatian Eurovision site eurosong.hr (http://www.eurosong.hr/) has lead a query with a question “Who do you want to represent Croatia in Malmö” over the last few weeks. After a month of voting, the winner was Franka Batelić, who tried to represent Croatia twice before.

http://escxtra.com/wp-content/plugins/simple-post-thumbnails/timthumb.php?src=/wp-content/thumbnails/40385.jpg&w=600&h=215&zc=1&ft=jpg&q=90


READ ARTICLE (http://escxtra.com/2012/10/the-fans-want-franka)

In this interview eurosong.hr that did that query, Franka said if she got internal purpose by HRT, that she would happily accept it. ;)
Eurosong.hr | Eurovizija - Eurovision Song Contest 2013 Malmö: Franka Bateli (http://www.eurosong.hr/intervjui/franka-batelic-nije-mala-stvar-znati-da-ljudi-vjeruju-u-tebe-i-da-ti-zele-povjeriti-tako-slatku-zadacu)

r3gg13
14th October 2012, 14:29
I've only heard a handful of songs by Batelić, I have to say that her typical songs are pretty meh. If she's given a good song then why not :D. My top choice is still Rozga

evilperson
16th October 2012, 01:23
I'd only like to see Jelena Rozga if she does a ballad or something along the lines of a modern Marija Magdalena (or something like Nazaret).

Her current style is annoying as hell imo.

handeyener
16th October 2012, 01:28
Seems most of the singers at ::hr are afraid of bad placement

LakZaNokte
16th October 2012, 01:35
Seems most of the singers at ::hr are afraid of bad placement
yeah, i must admit it is a bit embarassing :lol:
u really try to be some sort of star/performer/whatever and then u flop on international level xbow

Jukica
17th October 2012, 10:22
1 more interested name xcheer - Danijela Martinović (Croatia 1996 as part of Magazin, Croatia 1998) is thinking about going to Eurovision again :o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS_LaKalqe4

She had summer 2012 hit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sMN3DGavt8

I hope for sth. like this if she'll go to ESC again :D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49DVA4dTbqc

A-lister
17th October 2012, 20:42
I'd only like to see Jelena Rozga if she does a ballad or something along the lines of a modern Marija Magdalena (or something like Nazaret).

Her current style is annoying as hell imo.

Totally disagree, her uptempo stuff is good aswell ... and Marija Magdalena is uptempo so?

evilperson
18th October 2012, 02:08
1 more interested name xcheer - Danijela Martinović (Croatia 1996 as part of Magazin, Croatia 1998) is thinking about going to Eurovision again :o

I really liked Za Tebe Rodjena, she's good at doing ballads and should stick to that.


Totally disagree, her uptempo stuff is good aswell ... and Marija Magdalena is uptempo so?

We'll have to disagree here. I'll take a pass on the 80s synth folk infusion. Uptempo like Marija Magdalena would be good though, but that is not the same as her current style.

vatroslav_cro
18th October 2012, 23:31
I want something like this to rešpresent us in Malmő (I still hope LOL):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2NBG4QBHXU


This is not the whole version, just a "teaser"...the song and video are expected to come out soon:)
But Franka is a GENIUS!

Hele.
4th November 2012, 20:13
Franka singing demo version of Celebrate! It is is called I Believe and sounds much better than Celebrate (despite better lyrics, song much better suits Franka's voice and is different in some other elements too)

Eurosong.hr | Eurovizija - Eurovision Song Contest 2013 Malmö: EKSKLUZIVNO: Poslu (http://www.eurosong.hr/eurosong/ekskluzivno-poslusajte-frankinu-verziju-lahora)

Vinky95
20th November 2012, 23:43
DerHova ?

CypriotGirl
21st November 2012, 19:58
Franka singing demo version of Celebrate! It is is called I Believe and sounds much better than Celebrate (despite better lyrics, song much better suits Franka's voice and is different in some other elements too)

Eurosong.hr | Eurovizija - Eurovision Song Contest 2013 Malmö: EKSKLUZIVNO: Poslu (http://www.eurosong.hr/eurosong/ekskluzivno-poslusajte-frankinu-verziju-lahora)

xshock

This sounds good, I can't believe it's the same disastrous song of 2011 :lol:

A-lister
21st November 2012, 20:00
xshock

This sounds good, I can't believe it's the same disastrous song of 2011 :lol:

Really? I think it's almost equally bad :lol:

Tinchey
22nd November 2012, 13:29
For some reason I feel like we're gonna send Franka with a Euphoria rip-off. We will never come up with something new and original. :(

vatroslav_cro
22nd November 2012, 14:02
Why immediately you have such an opinion, Luka?:?

Somebody
22nd November 2012, 14:53
We don't have a chance. :D At all. :D

vatroslav_cro
22nd November 2012, 17:12
We don't have a chance. :D At all. :D
OK. Then let's quit ESC participation as well:)

LakZaNokte
22nd November 2012, 17:48
For some reason I feel like we're gonna send Franka with a Euphoria rip-off. We will never come up with something new and original. :(
i said that right after esc xrofl2 xrofl2 (it's in some other thread, and i said i was afraid of "loreen copycat" syndrome)

Tinchey
22nd November 2012, 21:46
Why immediately you have such an opinion, Luka?:?

We won't take any risk. It will either be uberboring ballad like Nebo or sth badly produced wannabe Euphoria. You'll see.

vatroslav_cro
22nd November 2012, 22:58
You don't know even what the DORA will be, the format of the preselection etc. I think you are too much pessimistic and have a lot negative thoughts, for such a young person....
My suggestion for all of you: let's wait until Dora 2013 and bringing any conclusions for the time after, how about that? :)

A-lister
23rd November 2012, 01:14
We won't take any risk. It will either be uberboring ballad like Nebo or sth badly produced wannabe Euphoria. You'll see.

Nebo was good though xshrug

LakZaNokte
23rd November 2012, 01:45
Nebo was good though xshrug
i woudn't say good...
...it wasn't embarassing, true, but good...
....?...

A-lister
23rd November 2012, 01:47
i woudn't say good...
...it wasn't embarassing, true, but good...
....?...

Well, I liked it but I also totally get why it failed because it was a grower. I found it meh and boring at the first listens, so I guess for ESC it wasn't the smartest choice considering songs really have the time to sink in there and need to be more direct in a sense.

LakZaNokte
23rd November 2012, 01:49
Well, I liked it but I also totally get why it failed because it was a grower. I found it meh and boring at the first listens, so I guess for ESC it wasn't the smartest choice considering songs really have the time to sink in there and need to be more direct in a sense.
yup, that would be my final decision on it as well xshrug

it wasn't bad, it just wasn't "esc" enough

CC92
23rd November 2012, 01:51
Boris Novkovic. xcheer Igor Cukrov. xcheer Kraljevi Ulice. xcheer

LakZaNokte
23rd November 2012, 02:51
Boris Novkovic. xcheer Igor Cukrov. xcheer Kraljevi Ulice. xcheer
very funny :mrgreen:

CypriotGirl
23rd November 2012, 13:29
yup, that would be my final decision on it as well xshrug

it wasn't bad, it just wasn't "esc" enough

I think the performance was bad and uninteresting, and that was one reason it failed. In the music video, it had something that fascinated you and made you get into the song. The performance was totally bland and boring. That's another reason it failed. They didn't create an atmosphere on stage! xshrug

vatroslav_cro
23rd November 2012, 15:18
I would't agree with Luka about Franka! Why it should be Euphoria's rip off? Franka has some really good song, after all, she was in the USA so she has a big experience now....I would like to see her in Malmö! Then Colonia (WHOLE band) or eventually Lana or Natalie Dizdar (with something cheerful and charismatic song)! ONLY THESE SINGERS (AND OF COURSE, GOOD AND MOVING SONGS), CAN PUT US AGAIN TO THE TOP 10, BELIEVE ME!!!!

A-lister
23rd November 2012, 17:17
I would't agree with Luka about Franka! Why it should be Euphoria's rip off? Franka has some really good song, after all, she was in the USA so she has a big experience now....I would like to see her in Malmö! Then Colonia (WHOLE band) or eventually Lana or Natalie Dizdar (with something cheerful and charismatic song)! ONLY THESE SINGERS (AND OF COURSE, GOOD AND MOVING SONGS), CAN PUT US AGAIN TO THE TOP 10, BELIEVE ME!!!!

How is being in the USA equal being good/experienced? xshrug

Jelena Rozga FTW xcheer

A-lister
23rd November 2012, 17:17
Boris Novkovic. xcheer Igor Cukrov. xcheer Kraljevi Ulice. xcheer

Well, I could be ok with Igor again just so I can have another look at this fab piece of man :twisted: :lol:

vatroslav_cro
23rd November 2012, 18:54
......

vatroslav_cro
23rd November 2012, 18:56
Well, I could be ok with Igor again just so I can have another look at this fab peace of man :twisted: :lol:

Well, Igor Cukrov - 2009 - total fiasco.
Kraljevi ulice - 2008 - disaster.

Erik, have you heard any of Franka's new song(s)?

A-lister
23rd November 2012, 19:15
Well, Igor Cukrov - 2009 - total fiasco.
Kraljevi ulice - 2008 - disaster.

have you heard any of Franka's new song(s)?

Well, I don't really want Igor back, I just meant it was nice to look at him :lol: :twisted:

Which one(s)?

Petar
23rd November 2012, 21:03
Franka Batelić or Neda Parmać, please! :)

Tinchey
23rd November 2012, 21:50
So it's klapa for the first time? Eh... :(

LakZaNokte
23rd November 2012, 23:04
So it's klapa for the first time? Eh... :(
:confused:

kopachka
23rd November 2012, 23:17
maybe it's gonna be some klapa, with music by derhova :D

A-lister
23rd November 2012, 23:19
maybe it's gonna be some klapa, with music by derhova :D

Who is Klapa?

LakZaNokte
23rd November 2012, 23:21
Who is Klapa?
:lol:
wiki (http://www.google.hr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=klapa%20wiki&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKlapa&ei=sOivUL30LcSK4gS8m4HYDg&usg=AFQjCNGscfq5pc9reSMaGZo8COgkngxhuw)

Tinchey
23rd November 2012, 23:31
:confused:

Tomorrow it will all be revealed - the jury and their possible choices. :)

LakZaNokte
23rd November 2012, 23:35
Tomorrow it will all be revealed - the jury and their possible choices. :)
really? :shock:

oh i can't wait for this xbow

Tinchey
24th November 2012, 00:00
really? :shock:

oh i can't wait for this xbow

Eurosong.hr | Eurovizija - Eurovision Song Contest 2013 Malmö: Saznajemo: HRT razmi (http://www.eurosong.hr/eurosong/saznajemo-hrt-razmislja-poslati-klapu-na-eurosong)

Sorry everyone for not being able to translate this. But all in all it says how there won't be Dora, and the choice will be internal. :D
I might actually like the idea of sending klapa, especially if it has modern twist to it. :D

Hele.
24th November 2012, 00:42
Well, I'm very skeptic if it will be some of Klapas. Looking positively, it can be something new for Europe. But, I'm afraid it is all although it is not small advantage for the start.
I really hope if we chose for Klapa, it will be something modern, like this try (although it should be even a little bit modern that this and better):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJm7852ZAcY

And defeniteley not something more traditional like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xc5Elp2WZcY

Hele.
24th November 2012, 00:44
Eurosong.hr | Eurovizija - Eurovision Song Contest 2013 Malmö: Saznajemo: HRT razmi (http://www.eurosong.hr/eurosong/saznajemo-hrt-razmislja-poslati-klapu-na-eurosong)

Sorry everyone for not being able to translate this. But all in all it says how there won't be Dora, and the choice will be internal. :D
I might actually like the idea of sending klapa, especially if it has modern twist to it. :D

This article says that in last few years there is wish Croatia sends something from its tradition and that it is reason why they might send klapa at esc.
But I think it would be better to send some modern Slavonian sounds, something like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWuO_ZvN4gQ

DanielLuis
24th November 2012, 01:00
I had never heard of klapa, so yes, it could surprise Europe :)

daniels1000
24th November 2012, 01:24
So it's klapa for the first time? Eh... :(

I'm scared now :lol:

that wouldn't be a good choice for Eurovision, if you ask me :/

vatroslav_cro
24th November 2012, 02:06
This article says that in last few years there is wish Croatia sends something from its tradition and that it is reason why they might send klapa at esc.
But I think it would be better to send some modern Slavonian sounds, something like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWuO_ZvN4gQ


Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO:)!Go Slavonia:)

A-lister
24th November 2012, 02:18
Oh God, I watched some of Klapa and it's just MEH!!! :( And I HATE A Capella groups like these... !!

A-lister
24th November 2012, 02:20
This article says that in last few years there is wish Croatia sends something from its tradition and that it is reason why they might send klapa at esc.
But I think it would be better to send some modern Slavonian sounds, something like this.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWuO_ZvN4gQ

Something like this could be good! :)

daniels1000
24th November 2012, 02:42
Oh God, I watched some of Klapa and it's just MEH!!! :( And I HATE A Capella groups like these... !!

I'll be so extremely dissapointed if they choose some klapa :( :(


and if they choose it, we'll FAIL 100% no matter of the song.

Milos-BC
24th November 2012, 13:02
I hope they will change their mind, or that at least someone will inform them about the catastrophic outcome that will certainly come if any Klapa goes to ESC.

I love Klapa's personally, but they are totally unsuitable for ESC. Bottom 5 is guaranteed if you send them :(

LakZaNokte
24th November 2012, 13:22
i'm not thrilled with that idea either. imo, that isn't really good for esc.
there r other possibilities for sending something with traditional twist (for example, music from istria in some decent arangement would be better) xshrug

kopachka
24th November 2012, 13:24
If they wanted something traditional, they should have sent this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO9EwLeF72s

LakZaNokte
24th November 2012, 13:33
^^ xcheers

CC92
24th November 2012, 13:33
Why not give it a try? I mean, even if it leads to a poor placing the participation still will not be as 'wasted' as with songs like Lako je sve or Celebrate. xshrug

CC92
24th November 2012, 13:34
^^ xcheers

You ought to press the Like button! :p

LakZaNokte
24th November 2012, 13:35
You ought to press the Like button! :p
u know i have issues with that xcry

Tinchey
24th November 2012, 14:03
I'd hate to see Colonia on ESC, it's something we've seen before. Let's give old guys a try, klapa with electronic beats - IMAGINE THAT! :o

LakZaNokte
24th November 2012, 14:09
I'd hate to see Colonia on ESC, it's something we've seen before. Let's give old guys a try, klapa with electronic beats - IMAGINE THAT! :o
i can't xhmm

xrofl2

Steffan
24th November 2012, 14:15
I hate Klapas...

vatroslav_cro
24th November 2012, 15:03
...and i like:) !!!! LOL
Luka, WHEN we have seen COLONIA on ESC? Explain? If you think about 2011. and "Celebrate"...no way! It WASN'T Colonia - only a part of it and they could make much better song(s)! It is something different.

Petar
24th November 2012, 15:35
If they wanted something traditional, they should have sent this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO9EwLeF72s

I love this :)

Haustor
24th November 2012, 16:03
I like idea of sending some klapa or even some tamburaški sastav to ESC. Result is not as important as sending something that will represent cultural heritage of a country.

Tinchey
24th November 2012, 16:18
...and i like:) !!!! LOL
Luka, WHEN we have seen COLONIA on ESC? Explain? If you think about 2011. and "Celebrate"...no way! It WASN'T Colonia - only a part of it and they could make much better song(s)! It is something different.

Well Colonia sounds like every other electro/dance song sent to ESC. :?

vatroslav_cro
24th November 2012, 17:11
I like idea of sending some klapa or even some tamburaški sastav to ESC. Result is not as important as sending something that will represent cultural heritage of a country.

You are right! Maybe the audience would appreciate it (there were several "cases" and it worked out):)

Matt
24th November 2012, 19:52
Can somebody post a popular klapa song? I'm curious...

Kryptonite
24th November 2012, 19:55
Can somebody post a popular klapa song? I'm curious...

This one was very popular in Slovenia:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwY7MGwpXc

I usually don't like klapa songs, but this one brings many great memories back to my mind. That's a kind of song that you just HAVE TO listen on the seaside. Especially if you're spending your holiday in Dalmacija. :D

Matt
24th November 2012, 19:58
Got it, it certainly is a unique music style and reminds me of Volksmusic which is quite popular among the older population but in a song contest it stands no chance if you ask me. So if Slovenia is focusing on qualifying to the Finals, this is not the right path to choose IMO

Kryptonite
24th November 2012, 20:03
Got it, it certainly is a unique music style and reminds me of Volksmusic in Germany which is quite popular among the older population but in a song contest it stands no chance if you ask me. So if Slovenia is focusing on qualifying to the Finals, this is not the right path to choose IMO

Croatia, not Slovenia. Slovenia doesn't have klapas. :D

But I agree with everything you said!

Matt
24th November 2012, 20:03
Sorry, I meant to say Croatia....it's early here :D

Kryptonite
24th November 2012, 20:11
Sorry, I meant to say Croatia....it's early here :D

Oh, never mind than. :lol:

Jukica
24th November 2012, 20:29
TBH I think that HRT will maybe go with Klapa Cambi:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6r5oQCEcw0

Scooby
24th November 2012, 22:35
If they wanted something traditional, they should have sent this one:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO9EwLeF72s

I just love this song xlovexlovexlove

vatroslav_cro
24th November 2012, 23:02
This one was very popular in Slovenia:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwY7MGwpXc

I usually don't like klapa songs, but this one brings many great memories back to my mind. That's a kind of song that you just HAVE TO listen on the seaside. Especially if you're spending your holiday in Dalmacija. :D

This song is really great, Nejc:) You have a good taste!

GRE
25th November 2012, 00:23
Croatia i just loved your entries in 2008 and 2009.
Dont know why you turned to pop songs after that.

Hele.
25th November 2012, 01:09
Can somebody post a popular klapa song? I'm curious...

These are some really big hits recently (well, in last few years) in more modern than traditional arranges.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjnC86kSHFw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ed23LzGw0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGwkjWGH64E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxs4DP9BaXw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJN6TDkQCg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB_KhpennuM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkN-fWjJREg

LakZaNokte
25th November 2012, 01:26
sorry ppl, but this has "flop" written all over it :?

if we send klapa and it doesn't turn out that way i will quote myself and write "dumbass" in my sig xbow

vatroslav_cro
25th November 2012, 01:39
Why are you so sure, Lak, that something like this wouldn't do well om ESC? After all, it is our traditional music....like Portuguese 's fado or similar...

uninvited
25th November 2012, 01:51
Is klapa strictly Dalmatian, or is there for example klapa from Slavonia? :confused:

Anyway, I don't like this idea. I think there are better ways to include traditional music in ESC.

LakZaNokte
25th November 2012, 10:47
Why are you so sure, Lak, that something like this wouldn't do well om ESC? After all, it is our traditional music....like Portuguese 's fado or similar...
not all traditional music is good for esc. imo, this is one of those.

Is klapa strictly Dalmatian, or is there for example klapa from Slavonia? :confused:

Anyway, I don't like this idea. I think there are better ways to include traditional music in ESC.
it is originaly from dalmatia, yes :D

Kryptonite
25th November 2012, 14:23
Why are you so sure, Lak, that something like this wouldn't do well om ESC? After all, it is our traditional music....like Portuguese 's fado or similar...

I agree with Lak on this one. Well, I'm not saying that you shouldn't send klapa music, but I do think that it wouldn't gain success.

I just think that other countries wouldn't "get" this kind of music. When I hear it, I can imagine Dalmatia, sea and other related stuff and that's why it falls into the context. Someone from UK will have no idea what this songs are about and therefore - they just won't catch the spirit.

A-lister
25th November 2012, 14:31
Anyway, I don't like this idea. I think there are better ways to include traditional music in ESC.

Second that, I didn't like any of these Klapa clips above. I really want something traditional/ethno from Croatia, but not in this boring dated way. Plz don't do this Croatia, you can bring ethno to ESC in better ways like you've don in the past.

I'm still rooting for Jelena Rozga or Magazin, heck I'd love to see Severina back aswell. Colonia... whatever... there are plenty of better options if you want an ethno twist.

Jukica
25th November 2012, 16:17
I've read somewhere that many are complaining for years for Croatia not sending traditional music and that that's why they wanna send klapa :/

dragvision
25th November 2012, 17:00
in Athens Severina have chorus in klapa style? You rember mojo stickla?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Z690Y_9H4

DanielLuis
25th November 2012, 18:14
I'd love something like Moja Stikla again, it was definetely entertaining :D

vatroslav_cro
25th November 2012, 18:19
I'd love something like Moja Stikla again, it was definetely entertaining :D

God FORBID! Thanks but no thanks. In that case I would miss whole ESC. More shameful song we couldn't send, bottom of all bottoms.

A-lister
25th November 2012, 19:54
God FORBID! Thanks but no thanks. In that case I would miss whole ESC. More shameful song we couldn't send, bottom of all bottoms.

WHAT!?!? 'Moja Stikla' is the best entry Croatia sent since 1999!!! I loved it and it deserved such a better outcome. Now those type of entries are the very reason of ESC existence imo! :mrgreen:

Afrika Paprika!!! xcheer

A-lister
25th November 2012, 19:56
I've read somewhere that many are complaining for years for Croatia not sending traditional music and that that's why they wanna send klapa :/

Well, I'd love something traditional/ethno from Croatia, but not in such a sleepy dated way as Klapa :/

kopachka
25th November 2012, 21:01
OH NO, IT'S OFFICIAL!
"Javnim pozivom traži se originalna pjesma (stihovi i glazba) koja se oslanja na klapski glazbeni izričaj."
Entries for NF should be made for klapa.

daniels1000
25th November 2012, 21:09
It's official that klapa will represent ::hr.


I'll cry now xcry1

Jukica
25th November 2012, 21:10
Bad choice :( I must say

Matt
25th November 2012, 21:16
Hmmm, I'm just as pessimistic about this as you guys but maybe they'll come up with some contemporary klapa somehow??? (if that's even possible). I haven't seen one klapa song I liked so far so I'm not holding my breath though.

Tinchey
25th November 2012, 21:23
I'm not that surprised or sad about this decision. Klapa is the music I grew up listening to, and it would be nice to finally see that part of croatian heritage on ESC. If such a song would've been sent in the 60's it would do good, but nowadays I don't see it getting more than 20 points in the semi. Although I must praise HRT for not getting all trashy (like they did in 2011.). Personally I'd like to see Klapa Kampanel, Klapa Libar, Cambi or Klapa Sveti Florijan... the ones I really don't wanna see us representing are Klapa Intrade (+ Tomislav Bralić) or Klapa Maslina because their melodies are literally always the same (lyrics too).

Tinchey
25th November 2012, 21:28
Something like this would be really really nice. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxER4yQDcA

vatroslav_cro
25th November 2012, 21:36
Well, why NOT TO TRY? For the first time we would send something like this to represent us in ESC. I think we shouldn't be pessimistic immediately. After all, there are more klapa versions and styles, not only one (listen to Klapa Cambi - type some of their songs on youtube!) They are great!
Plus there can be various versions.....so I suggest to wait until the final choice for the band and for the song style. OK?

Tinchey
25th November 2012, 21:45
FYI guys, I just realised it says that it doesn't need to be a klapa song strictly but it can be pop song with klapa elements. Imagine another Proljeće. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TutD9FtCpgI

A-lister
25th November 2012, 21:46
Well, why NOT TO TRY? For the first time we would send something like this to represent us in ESC. I think we shouldn't be pessimistic immediately. After all, there are more klapa versions and styles, not only one (listen to Klapa Cambi - type some of their songs on youtube!) They are great!
Plus there can be various versions.....so I suggest to wait until the final choice for the band and for the song style. OK?

Hmm, I'm confused... isn't Klapa a band?? I've thought so throughout this discussion :lol: :lol:

I was judging the YT videos posted on one of the previous pages, it looked like the same band on all the videos and there was even a Wiki-link to some band with the name Klapa :lol:

So Klapa is a genre??? Well that changes things I guess... I feel so stupid because I honestly thought it was ONE band with ONE style of music and here I was totally against the idea with no actually understanding of what it was :oops: :lol:

So WHAT exactly is "Klapa" then? The clips on the other page sounded kinda same-y and I didn't like any of them so I was jumping too fast on the "No to Klapa bandwagon" :lol: ... is their examples of different takes at this genre?

A-lister
25th November 2012, 21:48
FYI guys, I just realised it says that it doesn't need to be a klapa song strictly but it can be pop song with klapa elements. Imagine another Proljeće. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TutD9FtCpgI

I like this :) I'd totally support an entry like this for ESC ! :mrgreen:

Scooby
25th November 2012, 22:19
Even I personally like klapa music, I'm not to confident that ordinary European audience will understand it on right way. And that's the reason why I believe that song will not be in classical klapa manner, probably some mix of klapa singing style an pop elements in music. And that can be very good combination

And much much better option would be Istrian or Slavonian ethno music (if HRT want than kind of music)

A-lister
25th November 2012, 22:21
^
Well, if that 'Proljece' song is any example of what Klapa could sound like, then I'm quite optimistic :)

Hele.
25th November 2012, 22:31
FYI guys, I just realised it says that it doesn't need to be a klapa song strictly but it can be pop song with klapa elements. Imagine another Proljeće. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TutD9FtCpgI

ONLY like this it can be good...xshrug I can't imagine classical klapa entering into esc final! :( xcry xshrug

vatroslav_cro
25th November 2012, 22:33
A lister, klapa is a music genre:)

Scooby
25th November 2012, 22:34
Proljeće is example of what I expected from Croatia this time, and thats why I say that classical klapa is probably not a option (klapa is traditional Dalmatian a cappella singing)

Hele.
25th November 2012, 22:35
Well, I think maybe this could be okish for esc. First one I even wouldn't called klapa's song. It is kinda pop-rock song just sang by klapa. Other one is very nice, but it is some kind of mix of Slavonian + Dalamatian (klapa) music. And song should has official video like that one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ed23LzGw0


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxs4DP9BaXw

LakZaNokte
25th November 2012, 22:37
yes, i would also be very happy with something like proljeće (btw, i STILL didn't get over that 1 xcry).
something strictly traditional would be very wrong for esc so i hope they will manage to come up with something decent xbow

Hele.
25th November 2012, 23:13
I just hope they will not chose Intrade!

Terence
26th November 2012, 00:05
In theory it looks like Croatia will pick something which I should like, so let's wait and see!

(why do I have a feeling I will be horribly wrong?)

Haustor
26th November 2012, 02:30
Klapa is great and only limitation is how creative people who will participate in NF are.
There is nice example from Klapa Sinj:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK0eZrFEPbw

vatroslav_cro
26th November 2012, 10:54
In theory it looks like Croatia will pick something which I should like, so let's wait and see!

(why do I have a feeling I will be horribly wrong?)

Don't worry Terence, I think you'll like it:)

Vinky95
26th November 2012, 11:39
I hope that it will be like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxER4yQDcA
maybe like that

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkFyRZqQd58
or maybe like "Proljeće" what someone said

daniels1000
26th November 2012, 16:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPxER4yQDcA



Something like this would be the best in this situation. :)

Tinchey
26th November 2012, 16:58
Okej, so in the end it turns out there will be klapa made of 6 best klapa vocalists. :)

uninvited
26th November 2012, 17:16
Okej, so in the end it turns out there will be klapa made of 6 best klapa vocalists. :)

So typical klapa without pop singers? I don't like the direction Croatia is going in :?

A-lister
26th November 2012, 18:00
Okej, so in the end it turns out there will be klapa made of 6 best klapa vocalists. :)

So no Pop/modern version then? Well then bye bye Croatia :(

LakZaNokte
26th November 2012, 18:09
So no Pop/modern version then? Well then bye bye Croatia :(
on our forum says it will probably be some singer + klapa.
if that is true (ofc, there is no official conformation), we could get something xshrug

A-lister
26th November 2012, 18:22
on our forum says it will probably be some singer + klapa.
if that is true (ofc, there is no official conformation), we could get something xshrug

Aha, well THAT could be good! But if only a Klapa choir then I don't think it's be a good idea.

I'm crossing fingers for something like 'Proljece' then... or maybe even Jelena Rozga!?!? :mrgreen: xcheer

LakZaNokte
26th November 2012, 18:26
Aha, well THAT could be good! But if only a Klapa choir then I don't think it's be a good idea.

I'm crossing fingers for something like 'Proljece' then... or maybe even Jelena Rozga!?!? :mrgreen: xcheer
no names mentioned yet, so... xshrug
but it will almost certainly be a performer from dalmatia (if there will be any :mrgreen:)

Hele.
26th November 2012, 20:02
Lidija Bačić had several collaborations with klapas! :D

With better arrange (stronger refrain) this could be nice ballad for esc. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-hBDTshTM

Or something like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yCnD-ge5Lw

dragvision
26th November 2012, 21:46
severina his summer hit "italiana"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kwwQ9dAx7I

A-lister
26th November 2012, 21:48
Lidija Bačić had several collaborations with klapas! :D

With better arrange (stronger refrain) this could be nice ballad for esc. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-hBDTshTM

Or something like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yCnD-ge5Lw

^ A bit on the boring side for me I'm afraid...

A-lister
26th November 2012, 21:53
FYI guys, I just realised it says that it doesn't need to be a klapa song strictly but it can be pop song with klapa elements. Imagine another Proljeće. :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TutD9FtCpgI

Well, now I've looked through all the examples of Klapa songs in the latest pages of this thread, and this is the ONLY I actually liked... so it better be something like this.

Terence
26th November 2012, 23:42
Ok I heard a Klapa song and I wasn't impressed I'm afraid, so hopefully it can only get better!

PeterLPZ
29th November 2012, 20:14
I´m very exciting about the song. It sounds interesting.

Gogerko
30th November 2012, 21:17
I'm so happy with this decision :D

Kryptonite
1st December 2012, 12:38
Well, I'm quite sure that the show will be very popular in Croatia (maybe even in other EX-yu countries), but the end result will probably be a big flop.

vatroslav_cro
1st December 2012, 13:26
Yes you are a prophete or something??? Gosh.....

Scooby
1st December 2012, 17:04
Well, I'm quite sure that the show will be very popular in Croatia (maybe even in other EX-yu countries), but the end result will probably be a big flop.

I agree, it will be very popular in Croatia but in other ex-yu countries? Doubt

Kryptonite
1st December 2012, 17:58
Yes you are a prophete or something??? Gosh.....

Hey, that's just my opinion! I'm not saying that it will 100% flop. xshrug

Matt
1st December 2012, 22:34
Is this considered klapa (I'd say yes since it says klapa more)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28yL5qe_SwY

daniels1000
1st December 2012, 22:44
Is this considered klapa (I'd say yes since it says klapa more)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28yL5qe_SwY

xthink This is not actually klapa. It is more like song with some klapa elements.


These are some examples of klapa songs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrYmaXth1z0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qwY7MGwpXc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzJN6TDkQCg


First one is probably my favourite klapa song. :D

Matt
1st December 2012, 23:26
too bad cause I really liked that song....oh well

CypriotGirl
2nd December 2012, 00:19
I personally like some klapa music, but I don't know Europe's reaction to it... It sounds a bit dated. But I guess more modern songs with klapa elements are allowed, aren't they? Because last year in Portuguese selection the songs had to be fado-influenced, and the song that won wasn't fado itself, it only had influences of fado... xshrug

The ones I liked more from the videos posted in this thread:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Xxs4DP9BaXw
^This one is great! I like Slavonian music a lot, and the combination with klapa is great! xup


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FkFyRZqQd58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3yCnD-ge5Lw

I wouldn't like a 100% klapa song (song without instruments but only acapella, it will sound very dated in ESC IMO)!

r3gg13
2nd December 2012, 00:32
It would be very ballsy of Croatia to send a 100% klapa song. I would love a klapa ensemble + Lidija Bacic combination :D

A-lister
3rd December 2012, 14:25
It would be very ballsy of Croatia to send a 100% klapa song. I would love a klapa ensemble + Lidija Bacic combination :D

If stupid is ballsy then go for it :lol:

Seriously they need to pop this thing up with some singer otherwise it'll just be some boring a capella.