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escYOUnited
27th April 2012, 03:44
http://www.escunited.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/B_lgica.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9uExokZcIM

Sim
27th April 2012, 06:53
I'm wondering how RTBF will choose its candidate...

The 2011-way I really did not like

seb89
27th April 2012, 15:56
It would be cool if they send Stromae :D! Not that it will be a success, but I like the idea.

Anyway I hope something in French :)

CPV4931
27th April 2012, 19:02
Stromae would be a nice idea. To give you at least some hope: He sang @ESC public-viewing in Hamburg after Lena´s victory 2010.

Charly
27th April 2012, 20:03
Stromae 100 Percent

A well known Artist, Great Results

Sim
1st May 2012, 10:35
Stromae 100 Percent

A well known Artist, Great Results

Yeah we saw that in 2004 and 2006 :lol:

Sim
1st May 2012, 10:36
Why not the second of the NF in 2011?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg8WxY8L1H8

seb89
1st May 2012, 10:52
Maybe they'll choose the winner or one of their contestants of The Voice Belgique!

The winner | Roberto Bellarosa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRTRGcpsFY&feature=related

Renato Benardo | Coeur de loup (Shame he didn't win!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FmMskwHIb0&feature=related

Sim
1st May 2012, 10:53
Some suggestions for ESC 2013:

* Gotye

Still very popular with his song in Flanders and Walloon.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyVJsg0XIIk

* Stromae

A bit quiet around him for now, but had some good hits


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHoT4N43jK8&ob=av2n

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIrI_MOfxG0

* Axelle Red

Probably one of the most famous artists


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl9In2_x0hU

And now some belgian artist I love, but i doubt they would fit in esc:lol:

* Milk Inc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYu8-lhanfg&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI3ZqqdZUkM

* Lasgo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0uwmzfuvrc

* Dimitri Vegas & Like Mike (people won't call this music I know)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFD496VEUdM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eChdxmjHoMw&ob=av2e

* Tom Dice (why not?:D, he was asked for 2012 so)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPFdkBNUS4&ob=av2e

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzc-p6uvkOE

* Kate Ryan (would she ever dare to come back after 2006)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUFh6Khi8zc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqN2RxzuOaQ

RomanFromRussia
1st May 2012, 10:54
Kate Ryan:D

Sim
1st May 2012, 10:56
Maybe they'll choose the winner or one of their contestants of The Voice Belgique!

The winner | Roberto Bellarosa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzRTRGcpsFY&feature=related

hmm that's possible indeed just like in the Netherlands.
And I know why this guy won :lol:

seb89
1st May 2012, 10:56
Kate Ryan:D

I don' think RTBF will go for Flemish artists :).

Sim
1st May 2012, 10:58
I don' think RTBF will go for Flemish artists :).

I know, a shame IMO, just like VRT would probably never choose someone from Wallonia

seb89
1st May 2012, 11:01
hmm that's possible indeed just like in the Netherlands.
And I know why this guy won :lol:

Hahaha! Do you think so? It's possible, but she has reached the final too.
She was better than Roberto :p!


I know, a shame IMO, just like VRT would probably never choose someone from Wallonia

Indeed they represent Belgium, not Flanders or Wallonia (and what about the germanophones :lol:)!
From another point of view, they use eurovision to promote artist from their community/region, where they're active.

Why not a collaboration between Walloon & Flemish artists? I still think this is one of the best songs :D :


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEdPOn0HmdQ

Sim
1st May 2012, 11:07
Hahaha! Do you think so? It's possible, but she has reached the final too.
She was better than Roberto :p!



Indeed they represent Belgium, not Flanders or Wallonia (and what about the Germanophones :lol:)!
From another point of view, they use eurovision to promote artist from their community/region, where they're active.

Do they have a own broadcaster the german people in Belgium?:P
And are they in EBU?
Otherwise they could claim to send an artist also every 3 years :lol:

seb89
1st May 2012, 11:13
Do they have a own broadcaster the german people in Belgium?:P
And are they in EBU?
Otherwise they could claim to send an artist also every 3 years :lol:

They have a seperate public broadcaster, the BRF (Belgischer Rundfunk), I don't think they are a member and they only show news & documentaries in loop :lol:!
They're not many German-speaking, but there has to be some talent too.

Sim
1st May 2012, 18:55
I'm wondering, who could we sent to be a joke entry:D

seb89
1st May 2012, 19:07
BABE, if we wanna laugh at the singers & song (they might get a good result :lol:). Or Annie Cordie, if we wanna have a funny song, sung by a respectable singer :p.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yDYL1ccfv8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ-EBbjmkLk

seb89
1st May 2012, 19:13
^How could I forget Plastic Bertrand & Lio :D. Belgium is so cool :lol:!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVDfmn_TMkI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsqLi9LfiwM

Sim
2nd May 2012, 17:10
:lol:

That banana split reminds me of a finalist in latvia this year, she was sitting in a cake, maybe she could sit in a banana-split

seb89
6th May 2012, 14:17
^:lol:

Maybe Jali? He's quite popular nowadays:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYqG2CwaVxk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k5sRM1jNm0

Yamarus
6th May 2012, 14:40
I have come to expect only crap from the RTBF. When was the last time they sent something worthy of anyone's attention? 2003.

seb89
6th May 2012, 14:47
Last year was a surprise for me! We almost made the final, so it got some attention.

lowyby
7th May 2012, 17:26
Something out of the box please, It could score (Sanomi - Last year)
Trance? IDUNNO

Sim
8th May 2012, 11:18
I have come to expect only crap from the RTBF. When was the last time they sent something worthy of anyone's attention? 2003.

Well i still remember Urban Trad was according to the Flemish newspapers the day before the show, total crap.. and we would come 22nd out of 25th :lol:
But ok they did an amazing performance in final.

Last RTBF-entry i liked from the beginning was already in 1998

Gnowall
11th May 2012, 14:25
Belgium has the best dance-pop singers in my opinion... I am fun of Milk Inc, Lasgo... and i dont know if La Luna, Silver, Cascada... are form Belgium.

Please send MIlk INC, they are my favorite dance-progressive group XD.

CPV4931
11th May 2012, 15:40
Belgium has the best dance-pop singers in my opinion... I am fun of Milk Inc, Lasgo... and i dont know if La Luna, Silver, Cascada... are form Belgium.

Please send MIlk INC, they are my favorite dance-progressive group XD.

Cascada (Natalie Horler) is form Germany... but a dance song again from Belgium would be really nice.

CANyouLoveMeBack
12th May 2012, 09:58
Belgium tried to send Hadise in 2008, 2009 and 2010 . Why not this year ? I think Hadise should be on the stage for Belgium too..

Sim
12th May 2012, 10:10
Belgium has the best dance-pop singers in my opinion... I am fun of Milk Inc, Lasgo... and i dont know if La Luna, Silver, Cascada... are form Belgium.

Please send MIlk INC, they are my favorite dance-progressive group XD.

Almost impossible that Milk Inc, Lasgo or Sylver would compete
All flemish groups and next year the RTBF chooses...

Sim
12th May 2012, 10:11
Belgium tried to send Hadise in 2008, 2009 and 2010 . Why not this year ? I think Hadise should be on the stage for Belgium too..

I think when Hadise participates it will be when the VRT decides,
she is not that famous in Wallonia

Ashley
14th May 2012, 22:14
Lasgo or Gotye?

Sim
14th May 2012, 22:19
^^

Lasgo certainly not because she is flemish
Gotye, yeah why not, also very popular in Wallonia/D

seb89
20th May 2012, 23:59
Suarez maybe?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX9MNAXfu-c&feature=relmfu

NikkiBoy
25th May 2012, 15:02
Sad Iris didn't make the final, but the song was too low placed ^^'

CypriotGirl
28th May 2012, 20:40
Gotye, although I don't like it, would be a good option.

Stromae would be a good option too!

seb89
28th May 2012, 21:05
^I agree, but I think Gotye is trying to conquer the world with his music.

And for Stromae, yes please :D!!

Quent91
28th May 2012, 22:36
I think RTBF will stick to the national final they "recreated" in 2011.

seb89
28th May 2012, 23:31
Stromae can participate if he wants :p. Or do you mean the same procedure with AKA music?

Sim
29th May 2012, 07:45
^^

i"m afraid they will, certainly because they got the best results since 2003 for them

Yamarus
29th May 2012, 09:36
I actually liked the format of the 2011 selection. But Francophone Belgium just has poor tastes (or at least, nothing that can score high in the ESC). My favourite was Chloé's "Just One Chance", although she wasn't very good live.

Sim
29th May 2012, 09:45
^^

flemish people are not better:P

Yamarus
29th May 2012, 09:54
^^

flemish people are not better:P

Well, overall, since the beginning of the 2000s, the VRT's artist and song have always been better (IMO). That's why Iris was such a huge disappointment for me. After Tom Dice, Kate Ryan and Xandee.

Sim
29th May 2012, 10:25
^^

but you know the only time we had a good result was when the VRT decided alone
in 2004,2006,2008 and 2012 the audience decided

don't know if safety net would be better, don't know

Yamarus
29th May 2012, 10:28
but you know the only time we had a good result was when the VRT decided alone
in 2004,2006,2008 and 2012 the audience decided

Oh right! Okay, I agree then: Belgians have bad taste. LOL!

seb89
29th May 2012, 10:35
Yeah, I thought that's why the VRT chose to select the candidate, because what the Belgians chose always failed :lol:!

I kinda liked the way how the RTBF selected a song via AKA music, but of course the ones with a large fanbase have an advantage. And the first round was messy as well.

Sim
29th May 2012, 10:38
I do think if Belgium wants to qualify, the VRT must decide internally

it will not always be successfull offcourse, but only 17th this year is bad

we will see, i hope first of all for a good song

theCONWEL
3rd June 2012, 00:20
I'd love to see Belgium send Leki or Ellektra :)

Sim
3rd June 2012, 07:32
^^

Ellektra will certainly not, because she recently announced to stop her music career

Milos-BC
30th June 2012, 22:22
I'd love to see Belgium send Leki or Ellektra :)

I agree about Leki. That would be awesome.

Quent91
30th June 2012, 22:43
I don't even know them...

Milos-BC
30th June 2012, 22:47
This song used to be one of the most played ones on my Winamp back in 2009:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Gd6oTaDKzA

That is when I first heard of them.

seb89
30th June 2012, 22:52
She changed her style a little bit, when she made her come back this year :). I like her too!

The is her latest one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd0RkxcgNvM

Sim
1st July 2012, 07:38
Kate Ryan said in an interview with a newspaper that she really wants to participate again, also when the RTBF asks her...

CPV4931
2nd July 2012, 18:14
Kate Ryan said in an interview with a newspaper that she really wants to participate again, also when the RTBF asks her...

Good news :-)
I hope, she will be asked.

Sim
2nd July 2012, 19:56
^^

I doubt RTBF asks her, you never know
VRT is possible if they believe in her

NikkiBoy
2nd July 2012, 23:33
Kate Ryan sound like good news!

Arv
10th July 2012, 17:08
Urban Trad comeback!

lowyby
10th July 2012, 17:16
Urban Trad comeback!
Impossible, one of the bandmembers died & they were going to stop

Arv
10th July 2012, 17:50
Impossible, one of the bandmembers died & they were going to stop

I know... it's just a dream.

But I'd love to see something like Sanomi again.

Sim
10th July 2012, 18:11
^^

Hmm I don't think anything would do as good as Sanomi.
At that time it was something unique.

Now, people would compare it too much to Sanomi (see Belgium 2008 O julissi) and it would fail

CANyouLoveMeBack
10th July 2012, 18:23
Today HADISE reported that she wants to compete for Belgium and will contact with Belgian TV

seb89
10th July 2012, 18:30
Gaëtan Streel :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=280VbvqXuns

Or Joshua!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Mjv3SaxSoDI

Sim
10th July 2012, 18:36
Today HADISE reported that she wants to compete for Belgium and will contact with Belgian TV

really?:d do you have a source for that=)

CANyouLoveMeBack
10th July 2012, 18:52
^^ Nope I just saw in on TV. She said it's time for Belgium and 2013 will be true year for me to go to ESC again.

Sim
10th July 2012, 18:54
^^

Ooh god please:D With her we can expect douze points from Turkey?:P
And another reason to go to Sweden :D

CANyouLoveMeBack
10th July 2012, 18:57
For sure Turkey and also Azerbaijan will give 12 points to Belgium :D

I am sure, 10 points from Turkey to Azerbaijan and 12 to Belgium :D

Televoter from Azerbaijan will give 12 to Belgium too but I am not sure about Aze juries :D

seb89
10th July 2012, 19:12
Is Hadise famous in Wallonia? I think they should pick one who they really know or at least a Walloon artist.

Nevertheless I would be excited if Hadise would represent Belgium in the following years.

Sim
10th July 2012, 19:14
^^

I'm afraid way less, but RTBF likes to do something different.
When was the last time they send a famous Walloon artist?

seb89
10th July 2012, 22:10
They weren't famous, but they were Walloon. I think the one with the cat cartoon was rather famous in the rockabilly circuit (I forgot his name).

RTBF has never sent a Flemish artist, just like the VRT never sent a Walloon artist. It's their way to promote regional musicians.

Sim
10th July 2012, 22:21
^^

maybe they'll change for Hadise. They also know what she achieved in 2009.
I'll hope so:p

Yamarus
10th July 2012, 22:33
Hadise is almost unknown in Wallonia, and I doubt she would be chosen by RTBF.

Not because of her lack of notoriety (Witloof Bay, Copycat, etc. weren't exactly famous) but because RTBF will shy away from ethnic pop à la Hadise. They'll send something quirky as usual, I guess.

CANyouLoveMeBack
11th July 2012, 09:33
Belgian Television already offered to Hadise in 2007, 2008 and 2010

seb89
11th July 2012, 09:59
^'Belgian Television' doesn't exist. It's possible they thought of sending Hadise in 2008 & 2010, but 2007 probably not.

I don't mind if the RTBF wants to send Hadise, but I would prefer RTBF sending Walloon artist and VRT sending Flemish artists.

Sim
11th July 2012, 17:30
In 2008 they certainly asked her for Eurosong, the belgian presenter, but she refused, she only wants to be selected internally
If it's true that she was asked by RTBF in 2007, it's possible they ask her again

CANyouLoveMeBack
11th July 2012, 18:19
^^ Hadise herself told that in Turkey ''I got offer from Belgium in 2007, 2008 and 2010'' ... In 2009 she selected by TRT early. In 2011 there was no offer to Hadise, in 2012 TRT offered her again but she was one of the judges of Voice of Turkey

Sim
11th July 2012, 18:20
Hmm ok, than it's possible to see her in 2013:p

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:13
At this moment the RTBF has not yet decided if they will participate in ESC 2013 - They answered this to me after I asked it them.

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 19:17
At this moment the RTBF has not yet decided if they will participate in ESC 2013 - They answered this to me after I asked it them.

Wait... isn't VRT supposed to send an entry next year?

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:21
Wait... isn't VRT supposed to send an entry next year?

nope, VRT sent it this year, 2013 is (normally) for RTBF;)

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 19:23
Edit: Never mind, I confused everything :p
VRT are on even years, and RTBF are on odd years :D

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:28
The question is: will RTBF still participate , they had like the lowest viewer figures ever (ok the weather was good, but still...)

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 19:29
The question is: will RTBF still participate , they had like the lowest viewer figures ever (ok the weather was good, but still...)

Plus the fact that no RTBF entry was able to qualify to the final since 2003.

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:33
Honestly, I hope they do stay because they like to send always something special (not always good like 2007 and 2009:s) but ok, it's not like we are Greece by sending every year the same.

Don't know if VRT would like to choose the candidate every year. They do it already in JESC but you see the interest has dropped since then...

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 19:35
Honestly, I hope they do stay because they like to send always something special (not always good like 2007 and 2009:s) but ok, it's not like we are Greece by sending every year the same.


2009 was awesome xcheer

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:38
2009 was awesome xcheer

2009 was an absolute disgrace:P
com"on an Elvis-imitator:P
Shocked that Armenia gave us a point for that:P

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 19:42
2009 was an absolute disgrace:P
com"on an Elvis-imitator:P
Shocked that Armenia gave us a point for that:P

It was catchy and more innovative than some other songs that year, like Ukraine
One of the best songs of 2009 xcheer :D

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:45
It was catchy and more innovative than some other songs that year, like Ukraine
One of the best songs of 2009 xcheer :D

Sure we watched the same song? :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWOfxQwZTbc

A-lister
24th July 2012, 19:46
It was catchy and more innovative than some other songs that year, like Ukraine
One of the best songs of 2009 xcheer :D

Are you high? :lol:

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 19:49
Sure we watched the same song? :lol:



We did :D And I really like this song :) In my top 10 that year, and better than stuff like Ukraine and Norway
You may not like it, but if I was in a jury, I'd give Belgium a high note :D

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:52
^^

i find it horrible, almost as horrible as 2007, which I will never understand how Georgia could give us 12 points for that:P

I'm also wondering who RTBF could send??

Don't see many belgians in their charts.
Their highest is (still) Gotye.

Actually it would be nice to send Gotye. It would bring Australia even closer to the contest
but I doubt he can make another song like "Somebody that I used to know" altough i also like "Feel better"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRC--2qC_Qs

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 19:55
@Sim

2007 wasn't good at all, so personally, I wouldn't compare it to 2009, which I really like.

And Gotye would have been a good choice, but he must come up with a good song, the name won't be enough.

Sim
24th July 2012, 19:59
The "Belgian" entries for this moment in Ultratop 50 (French part)

Noa Moon - Paradise


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5B9-IjyAJg

Gotye - Somebody that I used to know


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UVNT4wvIGY

Basto & Yves V - Cloudbreaker


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ods0o6RBM3Q

and that's it:P

seb89
24th July 2012, 20:04
I liked 2009 a lot :o!

I hope they do stay, so they can surprise us again with a wacky entry :lol:.

Puggy would be great too:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEfTqyex8to&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUzW-SQ4dLM&feature=related

@Sim: a lot of Walloon artist don't chart. I pick them up via Pure FM.

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 20:06
I liked 2009 a lot :o!



xcheers

A-lister
24th July 2012, 21:18
I see Gotye being mentioned alot on here, it's almost on the same "realistic level" as Adele being mentioned the other year in the UK thread.

And while I know he is originally from Belgium, the guy can't hardly be categorized as a Belgian act right? He's been a Australian resident since 2 years old and that's where his career started.

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 21:21
And while I know he is originally from Belgium, the guy can't hardly be categorized as a Belgian act right? He's been a Australian resident since 2 years old and that's where his career started.

This comment is as valid as saying that Vanilla Ninja and Celine Dion couldn't represent Switzerland, because they had nothing to do with it.

A-lister
24th July 2012, 21:32
This comment is as valid as saying that Vanilla Ninja and Celine Dion couldn't represent Switzerland, because they had nothing to do with it.

Nah, I didn't really mean it like that. Of course he could hypothetically enter for Belgium, but it's just that people mention him like he is a Belgian act which I'd hardly call him.

I mean it's not as if people discuss Vanilla Ninja in the Swiss thread right?

AdelAdel
24th July 2012, 21:34
Nah, I didn't really mean it like that. Of course he could hypothetically enter for Belgium, but it's just that people mention him like he is a Belgian act which I'd hardly call him.

I mean it's not as if people discuss Vanilla Ninja in the Swiss thread right?

Because they won't represent Switzerland again xrofl2 That was REALLY random back then in 2005 :?

seb89
24th July 2012, 21:40
Gotye mentionned himself several times he is Belgian-Australian or Australian-Belgian, so yes he can pass as a semi-Belgian & semi-Australian act ;).

A-lister
24th July 2012, 23:20
Because they won't represent Switzerland again xrofl2 That was REALLY random back then in 2005 :?

You do get my point. I mean we don't mention random acts in the country threads which are unattached to the countries normally.

It's not that I don't get why Gotye is mentioned in here, it's just that firstly I think chances are very narrow and secondly I think he is mostly an Australian act.

seb89
25th July 2012, 09:53
If the English Mister John would still be alive, he would be great :D! Some Belgian proud (greatest country in the world) :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7PYASZn86A

NikkiBoy
25th July 2012, 11:46
Tom from 2010 again! I cried. xcry1

Sim
25th July 2012, 11:54
^^

Tom is (almost) impossible because he is really not that famous in Walloon and the RTBF chooses:(

Matt
27th July 2012, 19:12
Blog about Roberto Bellarosa possibly representing Belgium next year

READ HERE (http://wiwibloggs.com/2012/07/25/will-roberto-bellarosa-represent-belgium-at-eurovision-2013/19184)

seb89
27th July 2012, 19:36
That's possible. He is the winner of RTBF's The Voice Belgique.

A-lister
27th July 2012, 20:25
Blog about Roberto Bellarosa possibly representing Belgium next year

READ HERE (http://wiwibloggs.com/2012/07/25/will-roberto-bellarosa-represent-belgium-at-eurovision-2013/19184)

Another Tom Dice type of entry here we go... *yawn*

However this song is better than Dice's which I still don't understand the appeal of...

seb89
28th July 2012, 01:57
Given the lack of Belgian talent—or the lack of artists willing to risk a similarly embarassing placement—RTBF finds itself in a tough position.

How rude! It's indeed more the lack of artists willing to represent us than the 'lack of Belgian talent'.

And I think if the RTBF chooses internally it will be Roberto Bellarosa. I love 'Je crois'!

Sim
28th July 2012, 19:39
^^

Hmm actually at first sight, I would like this choice, altough it's not really what I want to represent us.

But ok

1) He is good looking
2) He has a good voice
3) He has experience

So why not

A-lister
28th July 2012, 22:17
^^

Hmm actually at first sight, I would like this choice, altough it's not really what I want to represent us.

But ok

1) He is good looking
2) He has a good voice
3) He has experience

So why not

Well, good lucks, nice voice and whatever experience doesn't count for nothing if the song isn't good.

If it's something like "Je crois", it could be an ok choice I think... but if it's something like "Me and my guitar" it's a big fat no for me atleast.

NikkiBoy
28th July 2012, 23:29
Belgium is a country who never gets tired of it. ESC.

Quent91
28th July 2012, 23:32
You guys spit (or not) on the 2009 song, but what about 2008 ? :lol:

NikkiBoy
28th July 2012, 23:34
2009 was... A copy of Elvis? Copy(cat)
2008 we're gonna kick some ass!

Quent91
28th July 2012, 23:37
2008 was a wild copycat of that amazing 2003 song :(

AdelAdel
29th July 2012, 00:23
Both: 2008 and 2009 were great xcheer

A-lister
29th July 2012, 01:04
2008 was a wild copycat of that amazing 2003 song :(

The only thing it copied was the fake language, other than that 2008 was a cute little gem wheres 2003 was a pretty awful song imo. Funny how opinions can be totally opposite.

Imo Belgium sent only 3 good entries throughout the 00's-10's so far: 2004, 2006 and 2008. Ironically all being chosen by the VRT. Even the only success of the past 10 years for Belgium (Tom Dice) was a VRT pick (although I personally dislike that entry). The last RTBF pick I liked was Melanie Cohl in 1998.

Sim
29th July 2012, 08:03
2008 was a wild copycat of that amazing 2003 song :(

I agree. The flemish audience was just misled by the success of 2003.
In the beginning I tought, oow yes could be a new Sanomi.
But if you compare it was totally different.
The performance of Urban Trad was amazing, whereas Ishtar had an ok performance..

Sim
29th July 2012, 08:05
Well, good lucks, nice voice and whatever experience doesn't count for nothing if the song isn't good.

If it's something like "Je crois", it could be an ok choice I think... but if it's something like "Me and my guitar" it's a big fat no for me atleast.

Let for example Patrick Ouchene (Copycat 2009) sing Me and my guitar in the same way Tom did, he would never be 6th.
Altough I dislike people voting for good looks, you can't deny it too

A-lister
29th July 2012, 16:42
Let for example Patrick Ouchene (Copycat 2009) sing Me and my guitar in the same way Tom did, he would never be 6th.
Altough I dislike people voting for good looks, you can't deny it too

Haha, I wrote "lucks" instead of "looks"... anyways my point got through nevertheless.

I know good looks are important aswell, I just meant that a song doesn't become better or worse based on it.

Sim
29th July 2012, 19:11
Haha, I wrote "lucks" instead of "looks"... anyways my point got through nevertheless.

I know good looks are important aswell, I just meant that a song doesn't become better or worse based on it.

that's true:D

seb89
29th July 2012, 20:30
I personally didn't really like 'Me and My Guitar', but the performance was truly AWESOME!! Respect! 2008 was awfull imo. I prefer 'Sanomi' over 'O Julissi'. 'Sanomi' was fresh and something new.

If it's not Roberto Bellarosa, maybe Renato Bennardo (also from The Voice Belgique) makes a chance :).

Here's Bellarosa's clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JNg9FjCSwM

Renato Bennardo with 'Cœur De Loup' (a cover from Phillipe Lafontaine):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnkjByHg7PE&feature=endscreen&NR=1

A-lister
29th July 2012, 21:12
I personally didn't really like 'Me and My Guitar', but the performance was truly AWESOME!! Respect! 2008 was awfull imo. I prefer 'Sanomi' over 'O Julissi'. 'Sanomi' was fresh and something new.

Can someone enlighten me what was so "awesome" with Tom Dice's performance? He was fake-playing a guitar and was standing at one place... very ordinary performance to a very ordinary song imo.

I also don't get the comparison between 'Sanomi' and 'O Julissi'?... yes fake language, but that would be like saying all entries in English have been the same... there's absolutely no resemblance between the two other than that.

CC92
29th July 2012, 22:31
^ I heard the supporters found the simplicity touching or so. For me it just matched the (imo) cheesy lyrics. The melody was very generic also.

A-lister
29th July 2012, 22:36
^ I heard the supporters found the simplicity touching or so. For me it just matched the (imo) cheesy lyrics. The melody was very generic also.

Well, everyone are of course entitled to their opinion.

I for one don't really get how one could be "touched" by it though since it wasn't a "touching" song to begin with... I mean singing about him and his guitar? lol

True though... it fitted the whole generic theme.

And of course the juries loved it... the more generic the better for them :lol:

seb89
29th July 2012, 22:37
It was plain and simple, that made it awesome for me. Everyone has an own definition for 'awesome' ;).

Nope, they don't really ressemble eachother, although it made me think of Sanomi, the first time I heard it. I also think there a slight ressemblance in genre. Nevertheless am I entitled to say that I prefer 'Sanomi over 'O Julissi'.

A-lister
29th July 2012, 22:40
It was plain and simple, that made it awesome for me. Everyone has an own definition for 'awesome' ;).

Nope, they don't really ressemble eachother, although it made me think of Sanomi, the first time I heard it. I also think there a slight ressemblance in genre. Nevertheless am I entitled to say that I prefer 'Sanomi over 'O Julissi'.

Fair enough, taste differs :)

Of course you are entitled to prefer whatever, I didn't mean anything else ;)

seb89
29th July 2012, 22:43
Exactly ;). The performance for me was awesome. I can totally understand someone else found it more generic.
The live performance was the only time I actually liked it. The song is indeed bland and cheesy :p.

CC92
30th July 2012, 02:14
^ I heard the supporters found the simplicity touching or so. For me it just matched the (imo) cheesy lyrics. The melody was very generic also.
Well, everyone are of course entitled to their opinion.

I for one don't really get how one could be "touched" by it though since it wasn't a "touching" song to begin with... I mean singing about him and his guitar? lol

True though... it fitted the whole generic theme.

And of course the juries loved it... the more generic the better for them :lol:

Come on, a young introverted boy singing about his love to music (his guitar) that no one understands but he keeps on chasing his dreams; isn't this heart-rending? :lol:
In spite of the fact that I personally would of placed it lower I can see how such a concept appeals to certain types of taste and given the weak overall quality of 2010 I find the televoters' ranking understandable (though not reflecting my own impression). The 'jury' and fans nevertheless overwanked it – clearly!!

Sadly I cannot watch Je crois as GEMA makes almost all free music unavailabe in Germany. Judging by his appearance is the style a bit similar to Christophe Maé's? Then I would not mind him going to ESC. :D

seb89
30th July 2012, 10:30
Sadly I cannot watch Je crois as GEMA makes almost all free music unavailabe in Germany. Judging by his appearance is the style a bit similar to Christophe Maé's? Then I would not mind him going to ESC. :D

It's not the same as Christophe Maé (imo) :p. Maybe this works:


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mu-1479662/je_crois_roberto_bellarosa_music_video/

if not, you can listen to a snippet here ;): ultratop.be - Roberto Bellarosa - Je crois (http://www.ultratop.be/fr/showitem.asp?interpret=Roberto+Bellarosa&titel=Je+crois&cat=s)

CC92
30th July 2012, 10:55
It's not the same as Christophe Maé (imo) :p. Maybe this works:


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/mu-1479662/je_crois_roberto_bellarosa_music_video/

if not, you can listen to a snippet here ;): ultratop.be - Roberto Bellarosa - Je crois (http://www.ultratop.be/fr/showitem.asp?interpret=Roberto+Bellarosa&titel=Je+crois&cat=s)

Does not work but strangely I can watch the clip on the site. Thanks a lot. It is nice but in ESC might disappear among the flashier entries. Though one never knows; this year Germany came 6th in televoting with a classic middle-of-the-road song. But a new-entry at #37 is quite bad for an idol single, isn't it? Not that it would say something about the quality.

seb89
30th July 2012, 11:17
^True! It's not really flashy indeed, but maybe with a right song, it might work. I think the 'cutie pie'-factor is also an important factor, though imo it shouldn't play a role :lol:!

Euhm, you might be right! It's his first week. He released his winning single and it reached number 4 after the final, maybe the interest has already faded. The Francophone Ultratop is bizarre :P. His concert posters are weird as well: white paper, a photo glued on it and info written under the photo :?. I'm curious, if they will play his single in Flanders.

CC92
30th July 2012, 14:54
^True! It's not really flashy indeed, but maybe with a right song, it might work. I think the 'cutie pie'-factor is also an important factor, though imo it shouldn't play a role :lol:!

Euhm, you might be right! It's his first week. He released his winning single and it reached number 4 after the final, maybe the interest has already faded. The Francophone Ultratop is bizarre :P. His concert posters are weird as well: white paper, a photo glued on it and info written under the photo :?. I'm curious, if they will play his single in Flanders.

Ah I thought it was his first single. I do not know about the situation in Belgium but in Germany almost every idol winner turns out to be an one-hit-wonder (if at all). People do not seem to be bothered by it though, most of the shows (and there a lots of them) keep achieving satisfying ratings. Personally I won't discriminate against idol contestants of course as long as they show some artistic value and authenticity. But it looks like he does not write songs by himself anyway, does he? He still could serve as the interpreter but I consider it more useful to focus on the songwriters. A good (a.k.a. appealing) song is the fundament – without it one does not get votes.

seb89
30th July 2012, 15:10
The first and winning single was a cover 'Jealous guy'. The situation is almost the same I guess, especially for Flanders. Most of the time the runner-up or someone else gets more fame than the winner (Hadise, Natalia, Kato, Tom Dice,...). This is the first time (if I'm right), a Walloon channel organises a talent show, most of the time they organise a show together with France (it's the same there, with a few exceptions) or Belgians participate in the French versions. So we'll have to see, what's going to happen with him, although I don't have high hopes. If he gets airplay, the album is good and the planned tournee is a success, it might work for him.

'Je crois' is the first song he released that isn't a cover and he didn't write it himself, but his coach Quentin Mosimann (also a winner from Star Academy) & Thierry Leteurtre wrote it. He'll release his album in September, maybe he'll write some songs, but I'm not sure (and imo I don't think he will).

Sim
30th July 2012, 18:54
Can someone enlighten me what was so "awesome" with Tom Dice's performance? He was fake-playing a guitar and was standing at one place... very ordinary performance to a very ordinary song imo.

I also don't get the comparison between 'Sanomi' and 'O Julissi'?... yes fake language, but that would be like saying all entries in English have been the same... there's absolutely no resemblance between the two other than that.

That was not his fault but is forbidden by EBU.
With live-guitar its sounds even better;)

A-lister
30th July 2012, 21:29
That was not his fault but is forbidden by EBU.
With live-guitar its sounds even better;)

Then it would be better not to "play" it at all.

I'm usually opposing to all sorts of fake-playing instruments :lol:

seb89
30th July 2012, 21:49
But then the song would loose its meaning, I mean 'Me & My Guitar' without a guitar... :p :lol:

A-lister
30th July 2012, 21:51
But then the song would loose its meaning, I mean 'Me & My Guitar' without a guitar... :p :lol:

Well, true true... but then better not write such lyrics in the first place! :lol:

seb89
18th August 2012, 16:57
RTBF will organize a new season of The Voice Belgique with Natasha St-Pier & Marc Pinilla (Suarez) as coaches xheart. Maybe they'll send the new winner to Eurovision. Strange they are organizing it again, I thought it was too expensive. Hopefully they will still have a budget for Eurovision :lol: ...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530214_10151002919434856_414756485_n.jpg

Sim
18th August 2012, 22:08
^^

well VTM is also organizing a second season already this year, so maybe they are a bit competing against each other

seb89
18th August 2012, 22:34
I don't think VTM is going to steal audience from the RTBF and the participants in both shows aren't really known in Flanders or Wallonia :p. It was probably a success and they probably want to have the rights instead of their rival RTL-TVi xpuke.
But still, they were critized for buying such an expensive program. If they would pause, I wouldn't mind, I (& maybe the Walloon viewers) would prefer this show again and this time with awesome jurors. Since I saw Marc & Natasha, I've been excited the whole day :lol: :lol:

Sim
18th August 2012, 22:35
^^

maybe the winner of the first edition will compete for us in Malmö^^

seb89
18th August 2012, 22:38
Yeah, that's possible! I think if the RTBF participates it will be Roberto. And the winner of the second season will represent us in 2014 :lol:

Sim
18th August 2012, 22:39
^^

hmm maybe the first winner of the edition on VTM^^

seb89
18th August 2012, 22:40
Oups haha, I meant 2015 :oops:

Quent91
18th August 2012, 22:53
I think RTBF could send Roberto to Malmö next year... The Voice can become our NF :p

seb89
19th August 2012, 00:39
Would be lovely if the RTBF chooses him :)

Sim
19th August 2012, 07:51
Wait and see :D
first of all they need to confirm our participation :lol:

it's almost September :(

DannyDS
19th August 2012, 22:35
Wait and see :D
first of all they need to confirm our participation :lol:

it's almost September :(

Imagine the RTBF withdrawing.

I'd die!

Quent91
19th August 2012, 22:45
Imagine the RTBF withdrawing.

No. I remember there was an article maybe 2 years ago about the Eurovision participation and the poor audience, where Philippot said that the RTBF would not quit the contest, even if it seems not very popular.

DannyDS
19th August 2012, 22:56
No. I remember there was an article maybe 2 years ago about the Eurovision participation and the poor audience, where Philippot said that the RTBF would not quit the contest, even if it seems not very popular.

Oh good :D

A-lister
19th August 2012, 23:53
No. I remember there was an article maybe 2 years ago about the Eurovision participation and the poor audience, where Philippot said that the RTBF would not quit the contest, even if it seems not very popular.

Hmm,, if RTBF actually would withdraw, would this mean VRT would enter an entry for 2013 instead or would Belgium simply withdraw until it would have been VRT's turn?

seb89
20th August 2012, 00:17
Hmm,, if RTBF actually would withdraw, would this mean VRT would enter an entry for 2013 instead or would Belgium simply withdraw until it would have been VRT's turn?

No idea :o! I don't think they would withdraw though, otherwise the RTBF would have already announced it.
VRT took JESC over, if the RTBF would withdraw, it's possible.

BRF should take part as well :lol:.

DannyDS
20th August 2012, 00:18
Everyone seems to be purposely forgetting the German part of Belgium :p

CC92
20th August 2012, 04:06
Everyone seems to be purposely forgetting the German part of Belgium :p

Do they have their own broadcaster to begin with? Elsewise it is RTBF's concern I think. I cannot envision they would reject someone because he is from the German-speaking community. As for the song, however, you most probably would not notice any difference.

seb89
20th August 2012, 06:12
Do they have their own broadcaster to begin with?

BRF :p

A-lister
20th August 2012, 10:34
Do they have their own broadcaster to begin with? Elsewise it is RTBF's concern I think. I cannot envision they would reject someone because he is from the German-speaking community. As for the song, however, you most probably would not notice any difference.

Exactly, no matter who chooses it'll end up in English anyways :lol:

The only problem is quality and interest, where RTBF often lacks and VRT seem atleast a bit more interested (let's forget the '12 entry tho).

Quent91
20th August 2012, 12:07
BRF isn't part of the RTBF ? I think so. Sometimes RTBF switches Euronews on the TNT (air television) to BRF for 20 minutes a day, i think.

Sim
20th August 2012, 15:07
Hmm,, if RTBF actually would withdraw, would this mean VRT would enter an entry for 2013 instead or would Belgium simply withdraw until it would have been VRT's turn?

I've asked that a couple of weeks ago to people in the VRT who are close to esc, and they say they really hope that RTBF won't withdraw because then it's not sure that VRT would take over - like they did with JESC..

seb89
20th August 2012, 19:03
BRF isn't part of the RTBF ? I think so. Sometimes RTBF switches Euronews on the TNT (air television) to BRF for 20 minutes a day, i think.

BRF has a separate channel. RTBF makes BRF available in Wallonia. It's weird that even public television isn't available in every part of Belgium. FY Flanders.

EurovisionBelgium
29th September 2012, 12:33
More details about RTBF-selection announced in December.

EurovisionBelgium | Malmö 2013: Meer details selectie RTBF bekend in december. (http://eurovisionbelgium.blogspot.be/2012/09/meer-details-selectie-rtbf-bekend-in.html)

Sim
29th September 2012, 16:25
glad that Akamusic-chapter is done :p

I presume they will choose either the winner of "The Voice" first edition or someone really popular of the second season.

Quent91
13th October 2012, 10:49
Jean-Pierre Hautier, Belgian commentator for the RTBF, died yesterday at 56. He was commenting the Eurovision since 1994.

Une grande voix de la radio s'éteint, Jean-Pierre Hautier nous a quittés - RTBF Medias (http://www.rtbf.be/info/medias/detail_deces-de-jean-pierre-hautier?id=7855091)

seb89
18th October 2012, 14:11
RIP :(

Matt
15th November 2012, 22:17
It's Francophone broadcaster RTBF turn to choose an entry for 2013 and have advised that details of their national selection will be announced at a press conference on the 20th of November.

In the meantime here are some rumors floating around online:

Some mainstream news sites and Eurovision Song Contest fan sites have been circulating rumours that the first winner of The Voice Belgique, Roberto Bellarosa has been lined up by RTBF to represent Belgium in Malmö. We'll find out next week if these rumours prove to be true!

A-lister
15th November 2012, 23:53
^
These kareoke talent shows wailers are infecting ESC !!! Go away!!! xgaah :lol:

Oh well, it all depends on the song I guess...

Matt
15th November 2012, 23:54
I personally don't mind talent shows partipants, some of them are talented but what I don't like are talent shows to determine a ESC winner (like Germany was doing it for the last few years)

A-lister
15th November 2012, 23:58
I personally don't mind talent shows partipants, some of them are talented but what I don't like are talent shows to determine a ESC winner (like Germany was doing it for the last few years)

Well, some of them are technically vocally talent but that's about it. Most of these people (ESPECIALLY from The Voice) have very generic and unoriginal voices even to begin with.

But my most concern is that there's no artistry. I want artists, people with an actual sound and image and career, something that makes them stand out atleast somewhat. With these ex- talent shows participants there's nothing to judge them on only the voice, but that doesn't say much since I'm here for the music. With actual artists you have a backcatalog of songs to judge from, to have some sort of idea what type of entry this could end up like. Considering this is from The Voice, you can already tell it's gonna be a wailing ballad... but I hope it won't be something too predictable. I'm not against the idea of a ballad, but it better have some character then.

DannyDS
16th November 2012, 00:00
I'll try to keep you guys updated about the southern part of my country's selection as much as I can :)

dragvision
16th November 2012, 08:19
Roberto have italian heritage.

penguinperson
16th November 2012, 10:17
Looks like it is Roberto Bellarosa

Roberto Bellarosa verdedigt Belgische eer op Eurosong 2013 - Gva.be (http://www.gva.be/nieuws/media-en-cultuur/aid1280386/roberto-bellarosa-verdedigt-belgische-eer-op-eurosong-2013.aspx)

DannyDS
16th November 2012, 11:54
It's also on Eurosong.be

(quick translation)

The RTBF hass revealed that Roberto Bellarosa, winner of The Voice Belgique, will go to Malmö for Belgium. He already was the top favourite for the job. Details of the song selection will be revealed during a press conference next Tuesday.

Bellarosa is only 17. He launched his debut album 'Ma Voie' in September. The Belgian Eurovision entry is NOT on the album.

Details of the song selection will be known on Tuesday 20th November, but it'll probably be a national final where Roberto wll perform several songs and the public will vote for their favourite.

Source: Roberto Bellarosa to Malmö! (IN DUTCH) (http://www.eurosong.be/47368/roberto-bellarosa-gaat-naar-malmo-voor-belgie)


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EDIT:: Can someone change this thread name? Belgium 2013 || Roberto Bellarosa

Thernk yer. xrunhug


EDIT 2: Here's an audio interview with Roberto where he reveals that the National Final will take place on 16th December

Roberto Bellarosa, le gagnant de The Voice, choisi pour l'Eurovision - RTBF Medias (http://www.rtbf.be/info/medias/detail_roberto-bellarosa-le-gagnant-de-the-voice-choisi-pour-l-eurovision?id=7875573#newsAudiosPane)

Matt
16th November 2012, 16:37
Hmmm, interesting. I'm getting Tom Dice vibe here. Good luck Belgium, can't wait for the NF.

CPV4931
16th November 2012, 16:43
After I watched a few videos from him, he seems to have a good voice. Now he just needs a good song :-)

seb89
16th November 2012, 16:51
Yay! It's Roberto (hopefully) :)!

Matt
16th November 2012, 16:56
Yay! It's Roberto (hopefully) :)!

It was announced on eurovision.tv. It's official!

DannyDS
16th November 2012, 16:56
Yay! It's Roberto (hopefully) :)!

It is him! :D :D

BTW.. may I add you on le Fejsbuuk?

daniels1000
16th November 2012, 16:59
Hmmm, interesting. I'm getting Tom Dice vibe here. Good luck Belgium, can't wait for the NF.

I agree with you. :D He reminds me on Tom Dice little bit.


Nice choice Belgium! xcheer

seb89
16th November 2012, 17:16
It is him! :D :D

BTW.. may I add you on le Fejsbuuk?

WOOT? Was it that obvious that it was me who said 'vind ik leuk' :o?? Your real one or your Eurovision one :o?

seb89
16th November 2012, 17:17
It was announced on eurovision.tv. It's official!

xcheer

DannyDS
16th November 2012, 17:18
WOOT? Was it that obvious it was me :o?? Your real one or your Eurovision one :o?

Everyone calls you Senne here xrofl

My second account. And it's not really an ESC account you know. :p I just post things there that I can post on my "real" account. :p

seb89
16th November 2012, 17:45
Urgh hahaha!

Are you schizophrenic :o :lol:! Doesn't matter I will find out who you really are (O) :lol: I'm a creep :)

DannyDS
16th November 2012, 18:48
Urgh hahaha!

Are you schizophrenic :o :lol:! Doesn't matter I will find out who you really are (O) :lol: I'm a creep :)

No, I just don't want to be bothered with weird questions from my friends. ;)

Jim
16th November 2012, 19:52
Great choice from Belgium! :)

Charly
16th November 2012, 22:43
The French-Italian Tom Dice, I Likey Likey :D

QwaarJet
16th November 2012, 22:45
The way things are going, we should just have Eurovision in January, with so many selecting in December, It's going to be one hell of a hectic month!

DannyDS
16th November 2012, 22:46
I'm quite certain he'll get a nice song. :)

Maybe we'll reach the final again in Malmö! :D

Charly
16th November 2012, 22:47
I'm quite certain he'll get a nice song. :)

Maybe we'll reach the final again in Malmö! :D

With the help of Italy if they voting for the SF Belgium has been put in :lol:

DannyDS
16th November 2012, 22:48
With the help of Italy if they voting for the SF Belgium has been put in :lol:

We need San Marino as well!!! :lol:

Scooby
16th November 2012, 23:04
Don't know what to say. Sounds good, but everything depend on song, will see

CC92
16th November 2012, 23:41
He has nice songs but the entry for ESC should be less generic. ;)

Quent91
16th November 2012, 23:42
We'll get points from Italy and San Marino, then...

dragvision
17th November 2012, 08:12
i am italian but from Belgium i want in Malmoe this girl, she is so sweet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg8WxY8L1H8

seb89
17th November 2012, 11:18
We'll get points from Italy and San Marino, then...

France hopefully :p

Milos-BC
17th November 2012, 12:23
Judging from these couple of songs that I heard, I think he is quite a good choice.

Although, everything depends on the song. I hope for a good one :D

Little
17th November 2012, 15:30
We'll get points from Italy and San Marino, then...

I don't think. If italian ratings don't change, I don't think that his italian origin will be important. While san marino has only the jury for voting and I don't know if their choice will be influenced by Roberto's italian origin. :?

Jukica
17th November 2012, 18:50
Interesting choice :D

VikingTiger
17th November 2012, 19:06
After looking him up on YouTube - I am convinced that Belgium so far has made a good choice. It seems like the guy can sing. Hoping for a great song, then! Good luck - Belgium is one of the countries that I would like to see get a good result. And preferably with a song in french. Roberto has a quite strong accent when singing in english.

Grinch
17th November 2012, 20:32
His voice is good but his songs are kinda boring. Doesn't seem very promising but we'll see.

NikkiBoy
18th November 2012, 11:09
Intersting choice.

rajo
18th November 2012, 12:14
Looks like a non-qualifier to me, but it's a typical non-qualifier country anyway.

A-lister
18th November 2012, 15:01
Hmm, he doesn't have the looks of Tom Dice so he better have a more interesting song if this would work-out. Yeah, the juries could probably like it since he's from "the voice", but will the public like the song?

Hope it'll stay in French.

CypriotGirl
18th November 2012, 23:18
I've heard his song "Je Crois" before, I remember it didn't make any special impression to me, but it's an ok song nevertheless. He better select a stronger song than that one if he wants to qualify. Overall he seems to be an interesting choice, though.

Mozz
18th November 2012, 23:29
The Belgians are quick this season.

It's interesting. They have a prime minister of Italian descent, another (famous) singer of Italian descent (Lara Fabian) and now their next ESC representative.

A-lister
19th November 2012, 14:03
The Belgians are quick this season.

It's interesting. They have a prime minister of Italian descent, another (famous) singer of Italian descent (Lara Fabian) and now their next ESC representative.

Well, let's hope their ESC entrance will be better than the caricature prime-minister they have (sorry Belgians) :lol:

AlbertTv
19th November 2012, 16:31
Honestly, I kinda liked most Belgian entries of the past editions. But I don't like this singer, I've been listening to some of his performances and I seriously doubt Belgium will do well this year. Anyway, let's wait to hear the song he'll sing in Malmo :)

DannyDS
19th November 2012, 17:06
Well, let's hope their ESC entrance will be better than the caricature prime-minister they have (sorry Belgians) :lol:

I quite like Elio Di Rupo. :p

At least he's not a complete moron like our previous PM. My god, he was so embarrassing. *facepalm*

A-lister
19th November 2012, 17:22
I quite like Elio Di Rupo. :p

At least he's not a complete moron like our previous PM. My god, he was so embarrassing. *facepalm*

Not surprised you like him :lol:

Anyways, this choice for ESC is rather meh imo, if they don't have a great song in store I doubt we'll see Belgium in the finals xshrug

DannyDS
19th November 2012, 17:26
I'm always optimistic. Except in 2008. I was seriously ashamed to be Belgian... Never felt so embarrassed before in my life!

And why are you not surprised if I may ask?

A-lister
19th November 2012, 18:20
I'm always optimistic. Except in 2008. I was seriously ashamed to be Belgian... Never felt so embarrassed before in my life!

And why are you not surprised if I may ask?

Really? I have to disagree, I found that entry cute and one of the few Belgian entries I enjoyed from the whole 00's tbh, definitely the best entry you sent in the past 5 editions for sure and miles above the first gibberish language entry you sent back in 2003.

Hmm, didn't you support him? (or maybe I confused you with someone else) :)

DannyDS
19th November 2012, 18:30
Really? I have to disagree, I found that entry cute and one of the few Belgian entries I enjoyed from the whole 00's tbh, definitely the best entry you sent in the past 5 editions for sure and miles above the first gibberish language entry you sent back in 2003.

Hmm, didn't you support him? (or maybe I confused you with someone else) :)

That ugly dress made her look like a messed up clown, though. :?

I'm not a huge fan of him. He's OK I guess, hasn't "effed" up the country yet. So we'll see what the future brings. :p

DanielLuis
19th November 2012, 19:54
I'm always optimistic. Except in 2008. I was seriously ashamed to be Belgian... Never felt so embarrassed before in my life!

And why are you not surprised if I may ask?

You should have been ashamed of 2009. That was just ridiculous.

DannyDS
19th November 2012, 20:06
You should have been ashamed of 2009. That was just ridiculous.

I didn't care about 2009. :p

Quent91
19th November 2012, 20:39
In 2009, I thought we could go to the final :(

A-lister
19th November 2012, 21:54
That ugly dress made her look like a messed up clown, though. :?

I'm not a huge fan of him. He's OK I guess, hasn't "effed" up the country yet. So we'll see what the future brings. :p

I thought that entry was cute, not a masterpiece but not something bad either.

Hmm, I thought you were a 'leftie' or did I mix you up with some other Belgian in here? :lol:

DannyDS
19th November 2012, 21:56
I thought that entry was cute, not a masterpiece but not something bad either.

Hmm, I thought you were a 'leftie' or did I mix you up with some other Belgian in here? :lol:

I am a "leftie" yes, but I am a "rightie" as well in some aspects :p

CypriotGirl
21st November 2012, 18:45
I'm always optimistic. Except in 2008. I was seriously ashamed to be Belgian... Never felt so embarrassed before in my life!

Oh, that was a disastrous song, if I make an all time bottom 30 it will be there for sure! xrofl3

2009 was quite embarrasing as well! :lol:

I think Roberto will have a cute song in the end. Btw, does he sing in English too? Because I'd like to hear a song in French instead, and just checking if he sings in English too, while he was in the talent show, to see how many possibilities are there to select an English song instead (pls not!)

A-lister
21st November 2012, 19:25
I think Roberto will have a cute song in the end. Btw, does he sing in English too? Because I'd like to hear a song in French instead, and just checking if he sings in English too, while he was in the talent show, to see how many possibilities are there to select an English song instead (pls not!)

I really hope they will go for a song in French, 'Je Crois' is ok, nothing special but it's decent... something like that in English would be a non-event though.

A-lister
21st November 2012, 19:25
In 2009, I thought we could go to the final :(

For real!? :o

Mickey
21st November 2012, 23:40
Belgium to select between three songs on radio | esctoday.com (http://www.esctoday.com/?p=39114)

The national final is going to be on the radio. How rubbish is that?

Sim
22nd November 2012, 12:41
^^

something I expected Mickey :lol:
I also find it rubbish but (maybe) one advantage: people will vote for the song, not for a show (because they only hear it)
But this is another example of how Eurovision is threated here

Somebody
22nd November 2012, 13:54
Belgium to select between three songs on radio | esctoday.com (http://www.esctoday.com/?p=39114)

The national final is going to be on the radio. How rubbish is that?

Well, it's a SONG contest after all.

DannyDS
22nd November 2012, 14:21
Roberto's English is appalling. So I hope he won't torture us. ;)

Sim
25th November 2012, 10:19
Some videos of Roberto singing in English


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1btu3T3Ifi4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xydpWUGhdU

GRE
25th November 2012, 12:08
i really HOPE he will sing in french in Malmo.

A-lister
25th November 2012, 14:27
i really HOPE he will sing in french in Malmo.

Second that!!! No use for English

dragvision
25th November 2012, 15:51
or he can sing in italian, italian are third people in Belgium.

Quent91
25th November 2012, 17:10
italian are third people in Belgium.

lol... check your sources.

DanielLuis
25th November 2012, 17:15
or he can sing in italian, italian are third people in Belgium.

Actually the 3rd most spoken language in Belgium after french and dutch is german.

dragvision
25th November 2012, 19:06
i mean etnicity, for example in the wallon the voice the 1, 2, and 3 have italian origin

Sim
26th November 2012, 15:36
Roberto sung yesterday in Brussels, I'll try to find some videos of it...

Sim
26th November 2012, 15:39
Roberto performing in Brussels

1) Je crois


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fjzmwpznLQ


2) Fairytale


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na744Egk1t0

dragvision
26th November 2012, 16:10
here Roberto sing with Tiziano Ferro in italian language

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8b-Ynl1EgQ

seb89
28th November 2012, 12:43
The Belgians are quick this season.

It's interesting. They have a prime minister of Italian descent, another (famous) singer of Italian descent (Lara Fabian) and now their next ESC representative.

Most popular French singing Belgian artist are of Italian or Portuguese Descent :p (Adamo, Sandra Kim, Lio,...)


Well, let's hope their ESC entrance will be better than the caricature prime-minister they have (sorry Belgians) :lol:

How superficial! At least he's a good and brave one :mrgreen:!

seb89
28th November 2012, 12:47
Please let him sing in French or Dutch, altough that will not happen lol.

Belgianfilmfreak
2nd December 2012, 15:35
Hey fellow Belgian Eurovision Song Contest-lovers,

Is anyone going to see the show in Sweden? If yes, please tell me! I'm looking for a fellow traveller. I don't wanna go alone. :) Please let me know asap! Thanks! Bye for now

Matt
4th December 2012, 19:05
a special jury has selected the 3 songs that will compete at the forthcoming 2013 Belgian national final, they had to choose 3 out of 6 songs for Roberto Bellarosa. The titles of the songs along with fragments of the 3 competing songs will be released on December 11. The 2013 Belgian entry will be selected via a public voting/ jury deliberation on December 16.

daniels1000
6th December 2012, 16:45
The local broadcaster RTBF has launched a competition on its website (http://www.rtbf.be/vivacite/concours/detail_gagnez-votre-place-dans-le-public-de-l-eurovision-2013-en-belgique?id=36141) where the winner will get tickets to the song selection show. Those who answer the question correct, will participate a draw.

Also, titles of the three songs that are competing in the show along with fragments will be revealed on Tuesday, December 11th.


Read more HERE (http://escwebs.net/2012/12/06/rtbf-launch-a-contest-to-win-tickets-for-song-selection-show/).

wyq614
11th December 2012, 16:27
According to Esctoday:

The titles of the three songs are :

“Be Heroes”
“Reste toi”
“Love Kills”

But how can we listen to these songs?

VikingTiger
11th December 2012, 21:20
Only one song in french.... Well - I hope that will be the best one. I really prefer Roberto to sing in french and not english...

Quent91
11th December 2012, 21:22
They say the song selection will occur in december 2013 :lol:

Matt
11th December 2012, 21:55
The last time Belgium sent a French song was in 2005 and we all know how that played out :D

arne1990
11th December 2012, 22:07
I think this is the French song:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnIg2R-yrP0

Quent91
11th December 2012, 22:36
oh... my... gosh

:o

no final this year, again !

Jim
11th December 2012, 22:52
I like it! :)

A-lister
11th December 2012, 23:14
The last time Belgium sent a French song was in 2005 and we all know how that played out :D

The last time Belgium sent a English song was in 2012 and we all know how that played out :D ;) xshrug

2005 failed because the song was bad... not because it was in French.

Matt
11th December 2012, 23:39
The last time Belgium sent a English song was in 2012 and we all know how that played out :D ;) xshrug

2005 failed because the song was bad... not because it was in French.

I wasn't serious and I think you read too much into that. I don't really care if they sent a song in English or French,as long as it's good.

A-lister
11th December 2012, 23:41
I wasn't serious and I think you read too much into that. I don't really care if they sent a song in English or French,as long as it's good.

I thought it was apparent that my response was sarcastic but I guess not ;)

rajo
11th December 2012, 23:46
The best Belgian singer for me is Jonatan Cerrada, and when he sang for France in 2004, he just scored poorly.

Roberto Bellarosa looks good for a grand gala diner, but this song is not made for Eurovision, I'm afraid. And he should show some cleavage to keep up with his competitors :p

Matt
11th December 2012, 23:48
The best Belgian singer for me is Jonatan Cerrada, and when he sang for France in 2004, he just scored poorly.

Roberto Bellarosa looks good for a grand gala diner, but this song is not made for Eurovision, I'm afraid. And he should show some cleavage to keep up with his competitors :p


Lol, I think guys have to show butt crack to get the same effect ;)

rajo
12th December 2012, 00:01
Lol, I think guys have to show butt crack to get the same effect ;)


I happened to see butt crack today in the supermarket and I thought that was not very convincing. Maybe moose knuckles help more to score better.

Matt
12th December 2012, 00:07
I happened to see butt crack today in the supermarket and I thought that was not very convincing. Maybe moose knuckles help more to score better.

Well, that's for the ladies though. That wouldn't really work for Roberto (at least I don't think it would) LOL ;)