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JasonC1782
30th August 2011, 12:54
Hi,

I'm a Eurovision fan from the UK who went to this year's Contest in Dusseldorf and would like to go to next year's in Baku - but I realise that it's going to be a far more expensive and challenging trip to arrange that Germany was overall.

Anyway, I'm currently doing what I suspect a number of Eurovision fans are currently doing, namely some basic planning to see whether it's logistically and affordably possible to get to Baku all the way from the other side of Europe; however, information seems to be quite scarce at the moment and with that in mind, I thought I'd make this thread for myself and anyone else from the UK or other Western European countries to ask for details and information that will assist us in planning our trip, that hopefully the good people from Azerbaijan on this board will be able to answer.

As far as I've been able to find out, this seems to be the situation at the moment:

FLIGHTS

It seems totally unfeasible to take a direct return flight from London to Baku with bmi and Azal charging £800+; according to TravelSupermarket and Skyscanner, the cheapest flights involve transferring at Sheremetyevo Airport, Moscow (£392 at time of writing) or going through Istanbul Airport (£489).

Does anyone know of any cheaper flights available?

VISA REQUIREMENTS

This is one of the big areas where information is lacking; I know the Reference Group is currently meeting in Baku to try and get this sorted out, but does anyone have any inkling of whether the visa requirement will be completely dropped (like Moscow 2009) or just made simpler?

I ask as it's not just the ease of getting a visa that's the issue, it's the cost of getting one; one guide I saw suggested that a visa from the UK would cost $100.

HOTELS AND ACCOMMODATION

This is the other area without information; I've heard reports that all kinds of new hotels are going to be built in the run up to the Contest, but my question is - what will there be in the way of affordable accommodation?

(And by affordable, I mean something along the lines of the hotel I stayed in in Cologne in May that cost only €350 for eight nights.)

Furthermore, exactly when will these hotel rooms become available to book and will we be able to book these through sites like booking.com or will there be some other method?

TICKETS

As I said above, I've heard reports of tickets going on sale through various internet portals towards the end of this year - and in fact, the last issue of Vision is encouraging people to get deposits in for UK OGAE tickets by 31 October; do we know roughly how much these are likely to cost?

OTHER AREAS

It seems quite dodgy to me that you can't get the Azerbaijan new manat currency before you get into the country, in that it gives Azeri banks and bureau de change outlets free rein to rip you off on exchange rates; can any Azeris clarify exactly how this works?

So those are my questions, and other posters are free to add their own; I know it's still relatively early days, but I do feel that the Azeris need to clarify the areas of visa requirements and accommodation fairly quickly because the Catch 22 situation everyone is in is that you don't want to buy tickets without knowing you have flights and accommodation, but you don't want to buy flights and accommodation without knowing you don't have a ticket.

dizzydjc
30th August 2011, 17:40
I'm in exactly the same boat, for years I was saying that 2012 is the year I go, and Azerbaijan hasn't put me off this as such, but it does look very complicated to get there and not very feasible.

Maybe after the reference group meeting, there may be some better information?

Narmina
30th August 2011, 17:45
this can help you

http://en.ogae.az/turist

MyHeartIsYours
30th August 2011, 18:04
From what I know the cheapest flights are the ones via Moscow. I suppose that it's not too bad at £200 each way seeing as Azerbaijan isnt heavily on the tourist track. You know there could be cheaper ways of doing it though if say you went on a charter airline via Turkey, got to the continent yourself and then flew from say France, Germany, etc or if you checked for flights from other UK airports outside London.
Also check out British Airways, http://www.britishairways.com/travel/home/public/en_gb?countrycode=GB&eId=101001 They often have sales on and fly London - Moscow.

JasonC1782
30th August 2011, 18:43
this can help you

http://en.ogae.az/turist

I don't know, the information on that site seems a bit out of date to me.

AYAN
30th August 2011, 20:34
You can check this site : hotels.az ...and u can book hotel rooms only after 1 september.

Charly
30th August 2011, 20:49
Another way is rom fly from Gatwick to Kyiv is Ukrainian Airlines which is very cheap as I been on it... then take AeoSvit to Baku :D

Taking Azerbaijan Airlines cost over £2000

Charly
30th August 2011, 21:23
Flights:
::de Germany:
-Frankfurt - Baku - Luthansa

::at Austria
-Vienna - Austrian Airlines

::ru Russia
-Moscow-Sheremetyevo - AeroFlot
-Surgut - Kogalymavia
-Moscow-Vnukovo - Rossiya
-St. Petersburg - Rossiya
-Volgograd - RusLine
-Moscow-Domodedovo - S7 Airlines, Ural Airlines, Azerbaijan Airlines
-Novosibirsk - S7 Airlines
-Kazan - Tartastan Airlines
-Yekaterinburg - Turan Air, Ural Airlines
-Samara - Ural Airlines
-Khanty-Mansiysk - UTair
-Moscow-Vnukovo - UTair
-Nizhnevartovsk - UTair
-Nizhny Novogorod - UTair
-Tyumen - UTair, Yamal Airlines
-Krasnoyarsk - Vladivostok Airlines
-Astrakhan - Azerbaijan Airlines
-Rostov-On-Don - Azerbaijan Airlines
-St Petersburg - Azerbaijan Airlines

::ua Ukraine
-Kiev-Boryspil - AeroSvit, Azerbaijan Airlines
-Odessa - AeroSvit
-Donetsk - Donbassaero
-Simferopol - Azerbaijan Airlines


::kz Kazakhstan
-Almaty - Air Astana, Mega Aircompany
-Aktau - SCAT, Azerbaijan Airlines
-Atyrau - SCAT

::lv
-Riga - AirBaltic

::tr
-Ankara - Anodolujet, Azerbaijan Airlines
-Istanbul-Atatürk - Turkish Airlines, Azerbaijan Airlines
-Antalya - Azerbaijan Airlines
-Bordum - Azerbaijan Airlines
-Izmir - Azerbaijan Airlines
-Trabzon - Azerbaijan Airlines

::by
-Minsk - Belavia

::uk
-London Heathrow - BMI, Azerbaijan Airlines
-Aberdeen - Azerbaijan Airlines

::ge Georgia
-Batumi - Georgian Airways
-Tbilisi - Qatar Airways, Azerbaijan Airlines

::nl Netherlands
-Amsterdam - Azerbaijan Airlines

::cz Czech Republic
-Karlovy Vary - Azerbaijan Airlines
-Prague - Azerbaijan Airlines

::it Italy
Milan-Malpensa - Azerbaijan Airlines

::fr France
Paris Charles De-Gaulle - Azerbaijan Airlines

::il Israel
Tel-Aviv - Azerbaijan Airlines

Narmina
31st August 2011, 08:44
I don't know, the information on that site seems a bit out of date to me.

don't worry it's a right and fresh info

makkillottu
31st August 2011, 15:19
Flights:

::it Italy
Milan-Malpensa - Azerbaijan Airlines


Also

Bologna - Austrian Airlines ;)
Bologna - Turkish Airlines
Milan MXP - Turkish Airlines

Mackan
31st August 2011, 16:33
When will the meeting be hold?

Narmina
31st August 2011, 17:49
tomorrow I suppose

KARO
31st August 2011, 19:48
first meeting was today

Narmina
31st August 2011, 20:21
first meeting was today

and??? what was the result???

makkillottu
31st August 2011, 23:12
I think they'll wait 'till tomorrow evening to let know anything...

Aze_89
1st September 2011, 00:49
u can get direct tickets from london for £ 420

Charly
1st September 2011, 14:32
That must be with BMI, Azerbaijan Airlines would probably cost more than £2000

JasonC1782
1st September 2011, 19:56
u can get direct tickets from london for £ 420

That seems to be one way only.

Narmina
2nd September 2011, 15:42
That seems to be one way only.

Noo, It mustn't be I suppose :?

Aze_89
3rd September 2011, 02:18
noo it is not one way, u can get it from Azal. when u check it from their website it is expensive but when u call them it is gonna be £420-460

Aze_89
3rd September 2011, 02:20
Azerbaijan Airlines is cheaper than BMI, dont check it from the internet,just call them and ask.
and the visa is for £55,u have to get an invitation from someone in Azerbaijan or just book a hotel.it takes about 2 week to get a visa.

MyHeartIsYours
3rd September 2011, 02:32
You can go on the coach from London to Moscow for £206 return, it'll only take you 3 days! :D

Aze_89
3rd September 2011, 02:46
haha )) just pay £215 more and u gonna be in Baku in 5-6 hrs))

EuroLove
7th September 2011, 19:08
I think Azal has direct flight from London not so expensive about 500€ (round trip). Turkish, Austiran Airlines and Airbaltic are not direct but not expensive either compare to British Airlines.

Charly
8th September 2011, 16:43
Heres the ways you can go by Car:

::al Albania - Shqiptar
-Tirana - Take E852 to Elbasan then head west and take SH87 to Rrogozhine then take the SH4/E853. This leads you to Greece. Continue on E853 Then take a left Pamvotida/E90. Keep on E90 all the way to Turkey. You will enter D110/E84. Keep on Following it to Istanbul. Then take the O-4 to Ankara. When Ankara is reached continue following E89 which will take you to E90. Look out for D750 and take it. You will now be driving south to Tarsus but when near Tarsus look out for Adana as you need to head to Adana. Continue on E90/O-54. At Bricek take the E99. This will lead you to Tatvan where you will take the D300 to Aladuz where you will take D975. This will take you to D400 And E90 again. Follow it all the way to Iran. Continue foolowing Sero and look out for signs saying Serow. Follow on and look for Quds. Follow on Quds and look out for Abozar. This will lead to Route 16. Then take the road tro A01. Then look out for Qarajeh Arba/Route 31. At Firouzabad take the Route 22 to Asalem. Then Take Route 49 which will lead you into Azerbaijan. In Azerbaijan head north on M-3. Look ot for M3. This will lead you to Baku.

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This route is Toll Paying Roads.

Farahim
9th September 2011, 02:20
Heres the ways you can go by Car:

::al Albania - Shqiptar
-Tirana - Take E852 to Elbasan then head west and take SH87 to Rrogozhine then take the SH4/E853. This leads you to Greece. Continue on E853 Then take a left Pamvotida/E90. Keep on E90 all the way to Turkey. You will enter D110/E84. Keep on Following it to Istanbul. Then take the O-4 to Ankara. When Ankara is reached continue following E89 which will take you to E90. Look out for D750 and take it. You will now be driving south to Tarsus but when near Tarsus look out for Adana as you need to head to Adana. Continue on E90/O-54. At Bricek take the E99. This will lead you to Tatvan where you will take the D300 to Aladuz where you will take D975. This will take you to D400 And E90 again. Follow it all the way to Iran. Continue foolowing Sero and look out for signs saying Serow. Follow on and look for Quds. Follow on Quds and look out for Abozar. This will lead to Route 16. Then take the road tro A01. Then look out for Qarajeh Arba/Route 31. At Firouzabad take the Route 22 to Asalem. Then Take Route 49 which will lead you into Azerbaijan. In Azerbaijan head north on M-3. Look ot for M3. This will lead you to Baku.

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This route is Toll Paying Roads.


wooooow :D :D How about from United State? :D lol (just kidding)

MrJadeEwen
10th September 2011, 09:27
was reading Azerbaijan are not going to be changing visa laws for Eurovision, good luck anyone going :D

Mackan
10th September 2011, 11:43
Where did you read that?

Narmina
10th September 2011, 14:11
Where did you read that?

indeed :? As I know there is no official info about this point

JasonC1782
10th September 2011, 22:26
Here's an interesting piece of news I saw at news.az:


The Tourism Association of Azerbaijan has announced the suggest cost of the tour package for foreigners.

According to AzTA head Nahid Bagirov, the tour package usually includes the cost of the return ticket, lodging, as well as tickets (including two semifinals and a final).

'As is known, the contest is to start on 22 May and end on 26 May. Taking into account the days of staying in the country from 21 to 27 May and the three-star hotel costs, the tour package will take some AZN 1,250 (EURO 1,100 or $1,600) and more.

This cost is just approximate since, first, a tourist can reserve a high level hotel room, and second, the cost of tickets for the contest is known defined yet', Bagirov said.

AzTA head said that regardless of tourists’ plans, the tour package always includes the cost of two semifinals and the final of Eurovision.

Meanwhile, he said the tickets in Germany cost EUR 300 and the staying took more than EUR 1,100.


EUR 1,100 was pretty much what I was expecting to pay, to be honest; I think the least complicated method to get to Baky may well be buying one of these package trips.

Mackan
21st October 2011, 18:49
http://escxtra.com/articles/23293



Baku 2012: Relaxing of Azerbaijan visa rules still unlikely for EU citizens

After talks last week in the Azerbaijan capital Baku, the country’s Foreign Minister Mahmud Mammadguliyev, expressed that there are still significant doubts over whether or not visa requirements will be relaxed for citizens of the European Union in time for next year’s Eurovision Song Contest. The contest will be held in May 2012 in the capital Baku.

“I don’t think the visa rules between the European Union and Azerbaijan will be eased by the Eurovision Cong Contest. The mandate to negotiate with Azerbaijan has been entrusted to the Advisory Council of Europe. We are negotiating on this matter with our European partners. But I don’t think that they will end by the time the Eurovision Song Contest is held in Azerbaijan.” said Mammadguliyev.

Whether or not partial exemption, or exemptions for accredited journalists will be possible for the contest, as seen in previous years, is still also unknown. Sticking points to agreement on the relaxing of visa rules appear to be stalled over the country’s longer term relationship with the European Union. Mammadguliyev noted that the issue will be raised again between the two entities in meetings in February 2012.

For further information relating to visa policies for individual countries, fans should refer to their local Azerbaijan embassy, or the website of the Azerbaijan Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Galandar
24th October 2011, 00:29
MrJadeEwen, visa issue is not going to be a problem at all. There is no final statement because they do not exactly know whether until May 2012 they will be able to issue electronic visas or not. If know there gonna be an easy visa regime for delegations, media representatives, member of fan clubs and all the rest people obtaining tickets to ESC.

marti384
8th March 2012, 09:03
So visa costs 60 ANZ (~60 EUR) for all..."nice" :?
http://www.eurovision.tv/page/press/visa#

viewser
8th March 2012, 15:18
But actually you can watch ESC on TV as well. there are several communities where you can discuss it on real time!

Yamarus
11th March 2012, 12:02
But actually you can watch ESC on TV as well

You... you can???????:o:o

JasonC1782
11th March 2012, 17:11
I can't believe we're still waiting for accommodation to be made available.