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Sim
15th April 2010, 19:53
Here in Belgium since 16.30 no airplanes allowed until at least Friday 18.00

No Name
15th April 2010, 20:22
All airplanes in Denmark have been cancelled too. TV and radios haven't been talking about anything but these dusty clouds. I doubt that the planes will take off right away as the clouds are almost just above us (from what I've heard).

aletem
15th April 2010, 20:41
I just read about this. From what I know, it is dangerous to fly when you have volcanic ash in sufficient amounts in the sky, because it can bring the plane down and crash (the volcanic ash consists of small particles). And this can last for days. :? Lets hope that those particles will settle down as fast as possible. When they settle, they better settle over a non-populated area. :)

Sim
15th April 2010, 20:42
In 1982 an airplane flew through a volcanic dust cloud.
All the engines felt out, but fortunaly they could land safely.

This is what can happen so I think this is the best for all to close the airports.
Safety for everything

aletem
15th April 2010, 20:56
The ash fall from Mount Pinatubo long time ago, seized many houses. When I learned that, I was wandering how come such small particles can create such a damage (leveling a house down :? ). Apparently it can, because some of these ash falls are voluminous enough and when they accumulate somewhere they add weight. This is why geology is so cool! :mrgreen: :lol:

94ayd
15th April 2010, 22:03
The positive side is that Iceland's name is being mentioned, so often. I love Iceland. :mrgreen: :lol: To be honest, we only need a flood (or we've already had one) and there'll be pretty much no other cataclysms left to happen this year. :lol:

No Name
15th April 2010, 22:17
To be honest I don't really see any positive side of this. :?

That cloud is covering most of the Nordic area and has caused lots of troubles and complications for both tourists and other people visiting the Scandinavian countries.

94ayd
15th April 2010, 22:24
Is it only me that finds it weird that it has spread so widely?! What does the sky look like over there where you live in Denmark, No Name? Or is it normal?

No Name
15th April 2010, 22:32
Well according to the newspapers the big cloud (which is invisible by the way) was estimated reaching us at 18.00, so it's a few hours ago. And no, I haven't been outside to check. :P

aletem
15th April 2010, 22:58
Is it only me that finds it weird that it has spread so widely?! What does the sky look like over there where you live in Denmark, No Name? Or is it normal?
The volcanic ash does spread widely and the higher the input, the higher the spread. Check wikipedia for "volcanic ash" and you'll see the effects of it.

And 94ayd, floods happen more frequently so you should expect one.

aletem
16th April 2010, 04:02
I also hear that there were flash floods (as this volcano is beneath a glacier and melted the ice bergs) so ~800 people were evacuated. There were earthquakes with small magnitude as well. Earthquakes and the gases along with volcanic ash are precursors for volcanic eruptions. :| The volcanoes in Iceland are fissure type, which means they eject lava like a fountain, but there isn't anything explosive and instantly dangerous like Mt. Pinatubo or Mt. St. Helens. However, they could still produce a large amount of ash into the atmosphere. If such thing happens, air traffic could be shut down for as long as a month or so. :|
I really hope something like that won't happen, because that will cause a chaos in Europe (you could also say goodbye to Eurovision in May).

And I also wanted to add a link from wikipedia regarding this particular event. I hope the mods won't delete it. And bear in mind that this page is freshly updated. There is some interesting info, including a map of the ash cloud spread:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_erupt ... %C3%B6kull (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_eruption_of_Eyjafjallaj%C3%B6kull)

94ayd
16th April 2010, 10:14
Can't you use a ship? :lol:

Blush
16th April 2010, 13:02
photos from the volcano:

http://i44.tinypic.com/11hvswo.jpg
http://i40.tinypic.com/35ku43t.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/21vfih.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/ziqb7k.jpg

Sim
16th April 2010, 13:16
The Belgian airport is possible to close for another 24 hours

AlekS
16th April 2010, 13:28
The cloud covered Lithuania and it's in Moscow right now :shock:

Ukraine is lucky. The cloud went to Russia and to Balkans so it's clear here :D A lot of flights were postponed or cancelled though.

Blush
16th April 2010, 13:29
in Romania 43 flights were cancelled and the dust cloud will reach Romania on Saturday . but only in N-V

aletem
16th April 2010, 16:27
Can't you use a ship? :lol:
Just think how long that process is. :P


Thanks Blush for the pictures! They are spectacular! 8-)

vatroslav_cro
16th April 2010, 16:31
Many flights from croatian airports (Zagreb, Split, Dubrovnik, Pula) to the northern european destinations are also cancelled or delayed. They say that the volcano ash clouds could come to Austria, Hungary and northern Croatia tonight (in the second part of the night). :?

94ayd
16th April 2010, 18:37
Can't you use a ship? :lol:
Just think how long that process is. :P


Thanks Blush for the pictures! They are spectacular! 8-)

Well, it seems a decent idea if you have NO other alternative. ;) By the way, the photos are gorgeous! :mrgreen: :lol:

Israeliboy
17th April 2010, 08:49
So big chaos :cry:

Sim
17th April 2010, 09:02
Here in Belgium, the airport certainly will be closed until 20.00 tonight
but expected maybe to close until monday.

I think many students will have a problem :P

vatroslav_cro
17th April 2010, 09:23
The news say that Zagreb airport is also closed from this morning. The clouds came to northern and western Croatia, and during the day they will continue to spread towards to the east and south of Europe, which means that the whole air space above Croatia will be covered till the end of day. The clouds are invisible for the eyes though.

Jukica
17th April 2010, 12:01
Here airports in Zagreb, Osijek, Pula, Rijeka, Zadar and Lošinj are closed.

http://www.zagreb-airport.hr/letoviOdlasci.php?lang=en departures in airport Pleso
http://www.zagreb-airport.hr/letoviDolasci.php?lang=en arrivals in airpost Pleso

They said on the news that they'll know on 14:00 if first planes will fly today.

Anjeza
17th April 2010, 13:45
The German air-traffic control announced that all German airports will be closed until at least tomorrow morning 2 am. Some airports extended this ban until 2 pm tomorrow afternoon. Due to these bans the German chancellor and the minister of defence can't return from their last journeys abroad, Angela Merkel (chancellor) is stuck in Rome and Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg (minister of defence) has to wait in Istanbul.

And here the prognosis of a German newspaper regarding the possible expansion of this cloud at 12 pm.

http://i41.tinypic.com/20iuwld.jpg

Sim
17th April 2010, 14:11
The national airline of Belgium has declared not to fly until Monday 12.00.
And even if the airport opens , the flights will be disturbed for at least a week)

Jukica
17th April 2010, 17:15
Only 2 flights today in Croatia, others are cancelled.

aletem
17th April 2010, 17:25
Ha, that map looks interesting (the one Anjeza posted). That map shows how the wind blows and thus where the particles accumulate. I don't think any flights are of good idea, because these ash particles do not stay at a same height (they are slowly, but surely going down and eventually gonna be deposited). So that means it is not a good idea even for small planes to fly. :| This is now going to impact the economy severely, especially the airlines.
@94ayd, Yes the ships and land transport are alternatives. But think of the economy of what will this cause and also think of the time needed to go from one place to another. I'm not saying this for tourists, but for other things. Tourists can find a way home (if they live somewhere in Europe), or they will have to wait in the airport, which I know how it is and it sucks big time. :| :geek:

Jukica
17th April 2010, 18:35
Airports Split, Bra? and Dubrovnik are still opened (volcano ash is slower now, it still didn't arrive). Tomorrow will be known when will be airports opened in Croatia. :D

Sim
17th April 2010, 20:58
Belgian airport closed at least until Sunday 08.00

94ayd
17th April 2010, 23:24
I reckon this terrible wind will reach Bulgaria tomorrow. :x It's interesting how Iceland wasn't actually affected at all for most of its territory (judging by the posted map).

Milos-BC
17th April 2010, 23:36
Yeah, it's coming to Serbia tonight as well :(

aletem
17th April 2010, 23:55
I reckon this terrible wind will reach Bulgaria tomorrow. :x It's interesting how Iceland wasn't actually affected at all for most of its territory (judging by the posted map).
Iceland is the most affected by it! Some of the particles have spread around the island. I heard people are wearing masks there. Also, flash floods happen in Iceland. So they are affected a lot. :geek:

Jukica
18th April 2010, 11:58
Today all airports in Croatia were closed from yesterday ... now airports in Split, Zadar and Dubrovnik are opened :D

Sim
18th April 2010, 12:01
Belgian airport certainly closed until 20.00.

Pff, it keep on going :?

Sim
18th April 2010, 12:08
What a picture:

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n34/simmeke/media_xl_3660237.jpg

Milos-BC
18th April 2010, 15:33
They say that the rain will fall, and that will help to get rid of the volcanic dust that came here today.

And that picture is scary :shock:

Sim
18th April 2010, 20:24
Belgian airport closed until 8.00 am
New dust cloud arrives tomorrow evening.

AlekS
19th April 2010, 22:52
oh noez, it's erupting again/still :|
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/p ... lcano.html (http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2010/volcano.html)
Met Office and NERC observations are consistent with Met Office model forecasts for spread of ash over UK and north-west Europe and NATS are continuing to advise restrictions on UK airspace until Tuesday morning.

ithanspain
20th April 2010, 06:06
Girona-Costa Brava Airport (GRO) on Sunday with 17 Ryanair's planes sleeping at the airport cause the cancellation of all operations that day. The northern spanish airports like Barcelona-El Prat or Zaragoza and Girona were closed more or less from 9:00 till 16:00 and then reopened...Fortunately we didn't get that much affected. :D

http://www.imagengratis.org/images/avckwuw2m.jpg
http://www.aviationcorner.net/show_photo.asp?id=164734

Today we are beeing an international hub... :lol: receiveing planes that couldn't arrives at their destinations, and then from here they go by bus, car, train or boat to central and northern Europe.

I've heard a man spend 4,000 Euros in a taxi for go to Brussels (I guess) from Madrid.

If some one want to see how the cloud goes and which flights are going on... http://www.radarvirtuel.com

aletem
20th April 2010, 06:31
Spain seems to benefit from the volcanic explosions in Iceland. :mrgreen: :lol: I think this will be quite a punch for the economy (airlines especially). Closing of the airports for days = losing of millions of euros/dollars/whatever. The first ash blow from the volcano was pretty much nothing. And we could expect more coming in. :| One positive impact of this might be that in the future there will be investments in technology, especially in the airplanes (the engines and other parts that would be protected from harmful ash particles from the volcanoes). And this is good, because people in the future will not be powerless against natural stakes. :)

Blush
20th April 2010, 08:57
a little joke ;)

http://i42.tinypic.com/2dmf2ic.jpg

AlekS
23rd April 2010, 18:17
Aurora above volcano:

http://utro.ua/static/img/1/_/1___1038_446xFT.jpg

http://utro.ua/static/img/4/_/4___924_446xFT.jpg

http://utro.ua/static/img/2/_/2___1003_446xFT.jpg

aletem
24th April 2010, 03:46
The second picture is amazing! :mrgreen:

94ayd
7th May 2010, 12:10
Guess what, the Icelandic volcano has exploded again. :lol:

Sim
7th May 2010, 12:29
here you can see the volcano live;)

http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull- ... olfsfelli/ (http://eldgos.mila.is/eyjafjallajokull-fra-thorolfsfelli/)

Milos-BC
8th May 2010, 13:33
BTW, i was reading a couple of days ago in some of the newspapers that they were watching the recording of Earth from the satellites and there was no dust cloud at all, its all made-up :shock:

The volcano is active, that is true, but the "cloud" is so small that it can't be seen from above.

First swine flu, now this, what will they think of at the end of the year..... :lol:

Sim
8th May 2010, 13:37
this happened more than 20 years ago when a plane flew through a ash cloud

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vatroslav_cro
9th May 2010, 15:09
The latest news say that the volcano cloud is spreading all over the sky above southern and partly middle Europe. This evening it is expected the furhter spreading above southern Germany, Czech Republic and Austria. Croatian airports in Zadar and Split are closed from 2.00 pm today.

ParadiseES
9th May 2010, 20:20
All the northern airports in Spain are closed again.

And now a joke. There's a group on facebook called: "Gracias Islandia. Primero Bjork y ahora el volcán. Qué os hemos hecho???" (Thank you Iceland. First Bjork and now the volcano. WHAT WE DID TO YOU???)
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Anjeza
9th May 2010, 22:09
The airports in Southern Germany were closed throughout the day, but are open again.

And another Facebook group: Wer nennt einen Vulkan "EYJAFJALLAJÖKULL"?? Kein Wunder, dass der sauer is!! (Who names a volcano "EYJAFJALLAJÖKULL"?? No wonder that he is angry!!)

Sim
10th May 2010, 08:26
Here in Belgium no airports closed atm

ParadiseES
11th May 2010, 10:57
One friend of mine is in a hotel in Dusseldorf cause she can't come back (for free and they give her money too). Lucky her. I always wished to travel and can't return! :evil:

Sim
11th May 2010, 13:29
One friend of mine is in a hotel in Dusseldorf cause she can't come back (for free and they give her money too). Lucky her. I always wished to travel and can't return! :evil:


If I am in a sunny country, ok!
But not in a rainy country :p

Milos-BC
12th May 2010, 15:55
Just imagine what would happen if you were on some island with no food at all, the plane comes to save you, and then this happens, and you can't fly back to your place :lol: that would be a real bummer.

aletem
12th May 2010, 21:35
Just imagine what would happen if you were on some island with no food at all, the plane comes to save you, and then this happens, and you can't fly back to your place :lol: that would be a real bummer.
Then you have to survive like Tom Hanks and you have to talk to a volleyball ball. :mrgreen: :lol: :lol:

AlekS
13th May 2010, 01:52
lulz, all of this definitely reminded me of The Terminal movie with Tom Hanks :lol:

Milos-BC
13th May 2010, 17:37
lol haha indeed :lol: