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TF100
8th December 2009, 22:33
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TF100
8th December 2009, 22:38
Tunisia applied to take part in 1977 and even got as far as being drawn 4th in the running order before withdrawing for unconfirmed reasons. In 2007, Tunisian broadcaster ERTT stated that the government has specifically requested they do not participate in Eurovision in the forseeable future (http://esctoday.com/news/read/8864), making this seem the last Tunisian dalliance in the Eurovision world for now.

bubblingtrue
6th March 2012, 01:27
After Morocco, it Tunisia would be the next African nation I would like to see in the contest

Yamarus
6th March 2012, 09:18
Tunisia applied to take part in 1977 and even got as far as being drawn 4th in the running order before withdrawing for unconfirmed reasons

Probably realising that Israel participates... at the last moment :lol:. Like Lebanon in 2005.

GRE
24th March 2012, 02:33
After Morocco, it Tunisia would be the next African nation I would like to see in the contest
Both of them will propably be in 2013 edition.

Sean
24th March 2012, 13:03
Both of them will propably be in 2013 edition.

What makes you think that? :p

A-lister
24th March 2012, 15:22
Both of them will propably be in 2013 edition.

Oh god no, let's bring Saudi Arabia and Iran and Iraq and Jordan and Tajikistan aswell.

Let's make it "UN-conference Contest" :lol:

GRE
24th March 2012, 19:49
A-lister its not the same.
These countries are members of Ebu,so your complaints could go there.

GRE
24th March 2012, 19:51
What makes you think that? :p
These two countries are ready to join the contest.

Sean
24th March 2012, 20:05
I haven't seen anything to suggest these two will be entering in 2013 though..

A-lister
24th March 2012, 20:15
A-lister its not the same.
These countries are members of Ebu,so your complaints could go there.

I know they are, and I'm well aware of the current rules, however I'm totally oppose to them. EBU wouldn't care, they just want as much cash as possible.

A-lister
24th March 2012, 20:17
I haven't seen anything to suggest these two will be entering in 2013 though..

Yeah, I think GRE is just guessing randomly. There WAS talk about Morocco to enter this year already (2012), but that fell through.

I mean if they'll act like Lebanon in 2005, there's no chance.

Anyway, I think ESC will be too big and weird, it wouldn't be EUROvision any longer imo.

GRE
25th March 2012, 01:55
Anyway, I think ESC will be too big and weird, it wouldn't be EUROvision any longer imo.
The more,the best..!
And will be more interesting,and not so predictable.
Also diferent cultures to the contest..!

A-lister
25th March 2012, 03:21
The more,the best..!
And will be more interesting,and not so predictable.
Also diferent cultures to the contest..!

I don't agree, because there's a line when if it gets too big, it'll just gets messy. I mean how many semi-finals do you want?

I'm perfectly fine with spin-offs like "Asiavision" or "Middle-east vision" or whatever, but I think Eurovision should well... stay as Eurovision.

marjinal
26th March 2012, 02:45
The more,the best..!
And will be more interesting,and not so predictable.
Also diferent cultures to the contest..!

Just the same I think.
Eurovision or Worldvision. No matter what you call it.

marjinal
26th March 2012, 02:54
It could be something similar to Football Worldchampionship. You have to be qualified in your own continent to go to the finals.

A-lister
26th March 2012, 13:47
It could be something similar to Football Worldchampionship. You have to be qualified in your own continent to go to the finals.

Thanx, but no thanx.

That might work with football, but this is a whole different type of contest.

Big NO to Worldvision, It wouldn't even technically work. It's an utopia.

marjinal
26th March 2012, 15:07
Thanx, but no thanx.

That might work with football, but this is a whole different type of contest.

Big NO to Worldvision, It wouldn't even technically work. It's an utopia.

I respect your opinion. But technically it would work. Look for example at the National Finals. Its the same. The participants have to be qualified in their own country. You can do the same with continents.

A-lister
26th March 2012, 15:16
I respect your opinion. But technically it would work. Look for example at the National Finals. Its the same. The participants have to be qualified in their own country. You can do the same with continents.

No it wouldn't work, because with all live-televoting and everything, it'll be too messy with the time zones differences.

Also, why Worldvision? Can't Eurovision stay as it is? There could be a parallel worldvision if that's what people want aswell, doesn't need to 'destroy' Eurovision for the rest who are fans of that concept. Also, I'll assure you it won't work out anyways, because they couldn't even work out Asiavision so far and that's just one continent.

GRE
26th March 2012, 20:48
Lets send your wishes to the Universe:Tunisia & Morocco in esc 2013!xcheer

Jim
26th March 2012, 20:49
I believe that in the future We will have the traditional "Eurovision song contest" and also the new one "Worldvision song contest". Maybe the top 5-6-7-8 of each continent's song contest like "Eurovision" will be competing in the "Worldvision song contest". But I think that we will have to wait for some years...

A-lister
27th March 2012, 01:44
I believe that in the future We will have the traditional "Eurovision song contest" and also the new one "Worldvision song contest". Maybe the top 5-6-7-8 of each continent's song contest like "Eurovision" will be competing in the "Worldvision song contest". But I think that we will have to wait for some years...

This could be a cool idea, and a good compromise with all those (including me) who want EUROvision to still exist!

A-lister
27th March 2012, 01:47
Lets send your wishes to the Universe:Tunisia & Morocco in esc 2013!xcheer

Yeah, let's challenge Turkey's diaspora voting power! xcheer

Seriously though, they can enter their own contest, and let the winner of Eurovision and others meet in Worldvision instead, that's the best compromise (as been proposed here already).

Yamarus
3rd April 2012, 20:09
Surely the EBU will have to rethink its Song Contest if it begins accepting Morocco and Tunisia and other non-European countries on a regular basis. Renaming it, or changing the rules drastically. I wouldn't be opposed to it, there are bound to be big changes in the following decade: the ESC has become much, much bigger over the last few years.

I've always thought that regional contests preceding a big final comprising the top 5 of each regional group (such as Balkans, Nordic & British Isles, Western Europe, etc.) could provide an interesting twist on the current situation.

Sim
3rd April 2012, 21:45
Yamarus,

the eurovision song contest is NOT an european contest but a contest for members of the EBU.
So even if an australian broadcaster gets member, Australia is allowed to participate

A-lister
3rd April 2012, 21:58
Yamarus,

the eurovision song contest is NOT an european contest but a contest for members of the EBU.
So even if an australian broadcaster gets member, Australia is allowed to participate

Yeah, but it's kinda idiotic imo.

I think the rules regarding Eurovision in particular need to be changed.

Would be odd with Australia joining in for instance.

Matt
3rd April 2012, 22:07
The purpose of the contest is to bring EBU countries together and not to divide them. It is against the board rules to campaign against nations or flat out say that certain countries shouldn't be allowed to participate based on someone's personal believes or attitudes. Thank you!

lowyby
3rd April 2012, 22:11
Wasn't the original idea after the ESC uniting European broadcasters after WW2, Since when is Tunisia, Morocco, ... important in uniting European broadcasters?

Matt
3rd April 2012, 22:19
The European Broadcasting Union (http://www.ebu.ch/) (EBU) was formed on 12th February 1950 by 23 broadcasting organisations from Europe AND the Mediterranean at a conference in Devon, United Kingdom. It was on the 6th of June, 1954, that Montreux became the venue for the first transmission by the EBU's Eurovision Network of the Narcissus Festival and its flower-bedecked procession floats.





The EBU - based in Switzerland - set up an ad-hoc committee to search ofr ways of bringing together the countries of the EBU aournd a "light entertainment programme"


It's not just Europe as some members claim, people just like to use it as an excuse. This is not the right place to discuss the EBU rules, I just wanted to pointed out that the rules have always been inclusive about all countries falling under those rules.

A-lister
5th April 2012, 20:25
Wasn't the original idea after the ESC uniting European broadcasters after WW2, Since when is Tunisia, Morocco, ... important in uniting European broadcasters?

Yes, that was the original idea, which some may overlook or "forget".

And some people are overly sensitive and political correct in here. To say you want Eurovision to stay as a European contest is NOT the same as to be "anti" non-European countries. If someone makes such conclusions then we can't say anything in here soon.

Yamarus
12th April 2012, 14:26
Yamarus,

the eurovision song contest is NOT an european contest but a contest for members of the EBU.
So even if an australian broadcaster gets member, Australia is allowed to participate

Nope. In order to become a member of the EBU, you have to be located in the European Broadcasting Area. This includes Northern Africa, but not Australia.

seb89
12th April 2012, 15:32
Wasn't the original idea after the ESC uniting European broadcasters after WW2, Since when is Tunisia, Morocco, ... important in uniting European broadcasters?

Because at the time they were still a French colony and they were also involved in the WWII (I think).

Sean
12th April 2012, 19:29
I'd be fine with Tunisia entering. I don't see how anyone could dispute when even the EBU were okay with them entering in the 70s - we didn't even have half of Europe entering back then :p

Matt
12th April 2012, 19:43
Rules reminder


13. This forum is Pro-Eurovision & EBU. While it is okay to share constructive criticism, it is NOT okay to question or boycott the participation of countries if they are eligible to enter the contest.

GRE
2nd February 2014, 20:34
I think we will see Tunisia entering Eurovision in the near future :)

greece
3rd February 2014, 06:05
It would be good to see Tunisia in the contest.
But the point of Eurovision has been lost...it was a Song Contest to unite the Europian countries.Now if more and more countries from Asia or Africa join in the contest it will become,as someone say before,Worldvision...

Nikoreindeer1973
22nd May 2014, 14:11
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