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escYOUnited
9th April 2017, 01:59
http://img.freeflagicons.com/thumb/music_icon/kosovo/kosovo_640.png

Sabiondo
13th April 2017, 02:56
How the Moderators can close this thread? then if keep open, will create Crimea 2018, Gibraltar 2018, South Ossetia 2018, etc... thank you :)

GRE
13th April 2017, 11:31
Kosovo participated at the Olympic Games of 2016.
So, it's not tha same case as Crimea, or Gibraltar.
Thank you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics

Sabiondo
13th April 2017, 13:59
Kosovo participated at the Olympic Games of 2016.
So, it's not tha same case as Crimea, or Gibraltar.
Thank you.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo_at_the_2016_Summer_Olympics

But Kosovo isn't member of EBU yet (and i doubt that they will join in the near future). Also EBU will not want to risk losing another participant (::rs) for political reasons as happened this year with ::ru!

So what is the point opened this unless thread?

GRE
30th May 2017, 22:11
https://eurovoix.com/2017/05/30/kosovo-rtk-hopeful-eurovision-debut-2018/

John1
30th May 2017, 23:45
https://eurovoix.com/2017/05/30/kosovo-rtk-hopeful-eurovision-debut-2018/

They reported the same thing back in 2015, and they still weren't allowed to take part at the ESC. It will never happen, as far as most of the countries in the world will decide not to recognize it as an independant or sovereign state. Why does Kosovo consider themselves as a country, which is no longer part of Serbia? I mean, they don't even have an "official" government.

Come on... The same happened with Faroe Islands in 2016, and they didn't insist on it nor tried to state that they intended to participate again in 2017/2018. Why would Kosovo keep doing so? Aren't they aware of the fact that they should acquire the membership of the EBU before annoyingly giving it a try every year since 2015?

Nevermind, I'm not posting there to talk about worldwide political issues regarding Kosovo, Albania and Serbia. My only purpose is to express my annoyance and the fact that I'm utterly tired with this whole situation in regards to their endless attempts to compete at the ESC, even though they perfectly know that they will never be able to take part so far. NONO

Guilep
31st May 2017, 02:52
^ True, but Faroe tried only in 2010

siebel
31st May 2017, 09:24
It will never happen, as far as most of the countries in the world will decide not to recognize it as an independant or sovereign state.

Most of the world didnt recognize Kosovo? Kosovo is recognized by 115 countries and 80% of EU countries, just 5 countries in EU still didnt do it. Little bit more if we count the whole Europe but thats still more then 80% and I think thats more then enough.



even though they perfectly know that they will never be able to take part so far. NONO

I wouldnt be so sure. Every month Kosovo is more "in the game" everywhere. From last year they are UEFA and FIFA members and they are now playing football qualification, something that 2 years ago we would all say "that's never gonna happen". I mean, i am REALLY not saying this because i have something against Serbians, NO NO NO, i want all the best for our neighbour Serbia, i am saying this because we have a new country in Europe and thats a fact. Sooner or later we have to allow them to play with us because they are "kids in our neighbourhood" and we cant just pretend like they dont exist next 100 years. Maybe they wil not be the part of ESC next year, but am sure they will definitelly be there in next 3 years. After all, they have "bigger right" to be on Eurovision then some non European countries like Australia.

Hannah01
31st May 2017, 09:26
The way i see this its not useless , if the talent exist somewhere it should be given chance..

John1
31st May 2017, 10:48
Most of the world didnt recognize Kosovo? Kosovo is recognized by 115 countries and 80% of EU countries, just 5 countries in EU still didnt do it. Little bit more if we count the whole Europe but thats still more then 80% and I think thats more then enough.




I wouldnt be so sure. Every month Kosovo is more "in the game" everywhere. From last year they are UEFA and FIFA members and they are now playing football qualification, something that 2 years ago we would all say "that's never gonna happen". I mean, i am REALLY not saying this because i have something against Serbians, NO NO NO, i want all the best for our neighbour Serbia, i am saying this because we have a new country in Europe and thats a fact. Sooner or later we have to allow them to play with us because they are "kids in our neighbourhood" and we cant just pretend like they dont exist next 100 years. Maybe they wil not be the part of ESC next year, but am sure they will definitelly be there in next 3 years. After all, they have "bigger right" to be on Eurovision then some non European countries like Australia.

There's no way that Kosovo is becoming independent anytime soon, from the moment that half of the UN's security council's permanent members aren't praising this decision at all. :lol: I'd say that it doesn't even depend on the will and the statement of all of the countries in the whole world, but it only does with the five most powerful nations. Furthermore, as we're all aware of, ::na and ::ru strongly disagreed with the overall situation. Thus, they won't be seen as an independent country within 3 years, but it seems that it will last more than 10 years until one of these countries will decide to take the independence of Kosovo into account.

However, I totally admit the fact that how wrong was my report about the whole number of country, which in fact didn't recognize Kosovo as an independent part from Serbia.

Let's get back to business: the broadcaster from Kosovo. Indeed, it might meet all of the requirements in order to be accepted as a full member of the EBU. Nonetheless, provided that they aren't officially seen as a sovereign country, it doesn't matter. This has something to do with politics indeed, hence the fact that I raised this issue there.

In case they were allowed to participate(really tremendous and unlikely...), it'd appear as an offence to Serbia and all of the countries in Europe, which didn't recognise Kosovo yet. Can you imagine this moment at the voting results??? "AND 12 PTS GOES TO SER... ERRR ITS REGION: KOSOVOO". It'd be very awkward and insane at the same time. Moreover, their participation would be the best equivalent to the participation of two entrants for one single country. 1956s vibes for sure, but it sounds very odd in my opinion.
Furthermore, there's still no votes in the Olympics Games and the Football World Cup Championship as they are able to be allocated in several other groups and thus not being forced to face each other. For instance, this huge mess with Azerbaijan & Armenia is already occurring, though they're both European countries. xrofl

LET'S WAIT AND SEE!!!!! ;)


^ True, but Faroe tried only in 2010

http://eurovoix.com/2015/06/10/faroe-islands-wants-to-participate-in-the-eurovision-song-contest/

SaladBreak
31st May 2017, 11:03
For instance, this huge mess with Azerbaijan & Armenia is already occurring, though they're both European countries. xrofl


It would be the same with Serbia and Kosovo, they would rank each other on last place all the time. Therefore, I'd rather wait until Serbia recognizes Kosovo or they negotiate some other settlement(split the territory). The tensions have worsened down there and the last thing we need is a war started by Eurovision.

John1
31st May 2017, 11:39
It would be the same with Serbia and Kosovo, they would rank each other on last place all the time. Therefore, I'd rather wait until Serbia recognizes Kosovo or they negotiate some other settlement(split the territory). The tensions have worsened down there and the last thing we need is a war started by Eurovision.

Indeed, but this'd carry a much more negative aspect than we all believe there. Why? The political relationship between Serbia and Albania at the ESC. It gets a bit better every year along with slight improvement as they're already giving each other some points

popavapeur
31st May 2017, 17:01
Dua Lipa (or for Albania) <== playing the game

Guilep
31st May 2017, 18:50
http://eurovoix.com/2015/06/10/faroe-islands-wants-to-participate-in-the-eurovision-song-contest/

I read it on KVF website, those fansites translated it wrong

John1
31st May 2017, 18:55
I read it on KVF website, those fansites translated it wrong

I don't think so though...
Here's the proof, though this is not the best press article that I've ever found, which deals with the issue of the participation of Faroe Islands. http://wiwibloggs.com/2015/06/09/faroe-islands-participate-eurovision/97791/

Realest
1st July 2017, 18:21
I wonder if we have a Greece-Cyprus Part II if Kosovo participated next year.

Romeo
1st July 2017, 21:18
I would LOVE to see Kosovo in Eurovision

They have been independent for 9 years now, I think it's about time.

For those who are saying they are not part of the EBU - nor are Israel at this point so the situation with Israel will be assisted by the EBU and therefore Kosovo could join in a similar way.

Also just because serbia doesn't recognise Kosovo isn't an issue because Turkey participated in Eurovision for years and they don't recognise Cyprus.

I think with participating in the Olympics / international football etc. I think it is highly likely we will see Pristina Calling in 2018

Sabiondo
3rd July 2017, 17:05
They have been independent for 9 years now, I think it's about time.

For those who are saying they are not part of the EBU - nor are Israel at this point so the situation with Israel will be assisted by the EBU and therefore Kosovo could join in a similar way.

Also just because serbia doesn't recognise Kosovo isn't an issue because Turkey participated in Eurovision for years and they don't recognise Cyprus.

I think with participating in the Olympics / international football etc. I think it is highly likely we will see Pristina Calling in 2018


But the problem comes that Kosovo isn't member of ITU (as pre-requiment to join on EBU) and that will happen once in the moon, only when they join on the UN and while ::ru and ::na keep blocking their assencion membership at UN, will be almost imposible to them join on ESC next year, but as EBU is FIFA 2.0 allowing ::au in their contest, i won't be surpised if their money talks continue and make an space for ::xk overiding their own rules.

AlekS
26th September 2017, 17:56
After numerous sites (even voyeuristic Erdogan TRT http://www.ground-zero.biz/images/smilies/ver.gif ) quoted eurovision.de (lol) and wrote that Kosovo & Kazakhstan can particpate in ESC and the only thing they need is an invitation from Portuguese broadcaster (lol #2, it didn't help Kazakhstan this year)...


http://www.preshevajone.com/ebu-ne-gjeneve-demanton-mediat-kosovare-rreth-lajmit-kosova-ne-eurovision-2018/

The EBU denied that Kosovo will take part in the ESC 2018.

Sean
27th September 2017, 23:29
RTK fire back - you can have your say in our poll too!

http://escunited.com/2017/09/27/kosovo-ebu-play-down-chances-of-debut/

PamSwynford
28th September 2017, 00:32
I see how someone forgot how they entered FIFA and UEFA. :rolleyes:

NemesisNick
2nd October 2017, 23:17
I see how someone forgot how they entered FIFA and UEFA. :rolleyes:
So did England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland also enter UEFA Euro 2016 (Scotland failed to qualify), but they are not separate countries, they're parts of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Kosovo will have to be officially recognised as an independent country by all other countries (including Serbia), NATO and Council of Europe before its broadcaster can become an EBU member and thus enter the ESC. Until then, what on Earth, in the world, is the point in making a Kosovo thread?

PamSwynford
2nd October 2017, 23:55
So did England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland also enter UEFA Euro 2016 (Scotland failed to qualify), but they are not separate countries, they're parts of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Kosovo will have to be officially recognised as an independent country by all other countries (including Serbia), NATO and Council of Europe before its broadcaster can become an EBU member and thus enter the ESC. Until then, what on Earth, in the world, is the point in making a Kosovo thread?

Just to be clear, I'm definitely not pro-Kosovo-on-ESC, so my post was a bit sarcastic since Kosovarian NT is playing in the same qualifying group as my country and mostly they were there just to build our victory statistic.

And I agree with your question that there's no point of making a Kosovo thread.

Romeo
6th October 2017, 22:49
Kosovo will have to be officially recognised as an independent country by all other countries (including Serbia), NATO and Council of Europe before its broadcaster can become an EBU member and thus enter the ESC. Until then, what on Earth, in the world, is the point in making a Kosovo thread?

Turkey refuse to recognise Cyprus so...

Gentleman
26th April 2018, 17:48
I hope 2019.

Citelis
26th April 2018, 23:44
I hope 2019.

Unlikely to happen!

Gentleman
27th April 2018, 12:45
I think Kosovo can this year be part of UN and then of the EBU.

Citelis
27th April 2018, 13:29
Not fully recognized country yet!

Gentleman
27th April 2018, 15:59
Is Israel or Cyprus too.