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escYOUnited
2nd May 2015, 21:07
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http://4lyrics.eu/wp-content/uploads//2016/01/sandhja_lead.jpg

::fi Sandhja - Sing It Away ::fi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ge5iMzHc3cY

Meet & Greet:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoxykqSO_24

Sandhja Kuivalainen (born 16 March 1991), known professionally as simply Sandhja, is a Finnish singer. She will represent Finland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016 with the song "Sing It Away". Sandhja was born to an Indo-Guyanese mother and a Finnish father.

In May 2015 she featured on Brandon Bauer's single "The Flavor". On 30 October 2015 she released the single "My Bass". Sandhja was announced as one of the 18 competing artists in Uuden Musiikin Kilpailu 2016 on 12 January 2016. She competed in the third semi-final and advanced to the final. In the final, she was declared the winner after winning the jury vote and placing third with the public. She will now represent Finland in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016, performing in the first half of the first semi-final on 10 May 2016 at the Ericsson Globe in Stockholm, Sweden.

Source: Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandhja)

Sean
2nd May 2015, 21:30
Opera Skaala to slay with her 'Euphoria' moment

EscGeek
2nd May 2015, 22:10
http://goodlogo.com/images/logos/opera_logo_3021.gif http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/yugo%20101%20skala%20prospekt%202.jpg

anselm
2nd May 2015, 22:12
http://38.media.tumblr.com/b35994a50b96a60767150e43d8549613/tumblr_njs242qsw41u7uduwo1_500.gif

Tinchey
3rd May 2015, 00:16
Helsinki 2016 xpray

lavieenrose
3rd May 2015, 00:34
So Opera Skaala, right?

Sean
3rd May 2015, 15:03
Yep, Opera Skaala. Thread closed.

Schlagerman1
3rd May 2015, 15:04
Yep, cancel UMK and bring us some ODM in 2016! :D

RainyWoods
3rd May 2015, 15:12
http://wiwibloggs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/opera_skaala.png
http://static.iltalehti.fi/umk-2015/etuessiar27215_503_um.jpg
http://wiwibloggs.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Opera-Skaala-Wiwi-Jury-UMK-2015-wiwibloggs-.png


http://33.media.tumblr.com/e16df69f9bb07b422f83d06680d96754/tumblr_njrzcdJXVF1u7uduwo2_500.gif

Would it be possible to ban any members who should utter a name that isn't Essi Luttinen of Opera Skaala in this topic? Thank you.

LoveHate
15th May 2015, 22:08
Will the format and rules for UMK stay the same, or will there be any changes?

DanielLuis
15th May 2015, 22:29
It's pretty much unanimous, Opera Skaala has to represent Finland in 2016!

LoveHate
25th May 2015, 13:17
With the risk of permaban, I really don't understand Opera Skaala :?. Actually I don't quite understand anything from UMK 2015. It was all very weird, apart from Crossroads that was just lame. When I saw the interview with PKN before they entered the stage I knew I wanted them to win. When there was nothing else worth sending, might as well send PKN just because no other country would ever do that.

Better luck (a.k.a. songs) next year.

Joni
26th May 2015, 17:32
With the risk of permaban, I really don't understand Opera Skaala :?. Actually I don't quite understand anything from UMK 2015. It was all very weird, apart from Crossroads that was just lame. When I saw the interview with PKN before they entered the stage I knew I wanted them to win. When there was nothing else worth sending, might as well send PKN just because no other country would ever do that.

Better luck (a.k.a. songs) next year.

The question is: will any good artists take UMK seriously any more after what happened this year (and send good songs)?

LoveHate
26th May 2015, 17:50
Who chooses the songs for UMK out of all the hundreds of demos submitted? Hard to comment on whether there are enough good songs when only a fraction get selected.

AshleyWright
26th May 2015, 17:55
One thing i've noticed is that Finland keep seeming to fail when they send non-english songs - I hope this wont push the Finnish broadcaster into having more english songs in their NF and favouring them over non-english songs.

Joni
26th May 2015, 22:31
Who chooses the songs for UMK out of all the hundreds of demos submitted? Hard to comment on whether there are enough good songs when only a fraction get selected.

I would love to know who chooses them. Here is one song that was not chosen this year


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkoF3ESqTWo

LoveHate
27th May 2015, 11:15
According to UMK on Facebook, Yle will accept demos for UMK from September 1st onwards. It's the 50th time Finland competes at ESC.

Rayman
27th May 2015, 22:36
PKN will give another candidature. Just a feeling.

Joni
6th September 2015, 01:00
The UMK final will be in March 2016.

Verjamem
6th September 2015, 12:19
The UMK final will be in March 2016.
Any source?

PamSwynford
6th September 2015, 13:18
Any source?

Wikipedia. :lol:

Joni
6th September 2015, 16:20
Any source?

The English rules of UMK 2016: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5En_lDkFKUKVy1aZjNpLVdaNEE/view

ChernyVolk
23rd October 2015, 18:56
06.11
List of Partecipant of UMK 2016 will be on.

Sammy
23rd October 2015, 19:32
I hope Finland sends something really good this year.

JTL90
24th October 2015, 02:22
06.11
List of Partecipant of UMK 2016 will be on.

UMK's facebook page says that the artist won't be revealed on November 6th. YLE will only give some tidbits about the contest on that day.

ZoboCamel
24th October 2015, 02:48
UMK's facebook page says that the artist won't be revealed on November 6th. YLE will only give some tidbits about the contest on that day.

So I'm guessing it'll be the same as what they did last year, where they gave silhouettes of the participants with some song lyrics or something on top?

Joni
25th October 2015, 14:04
^ It might be that they just reveal the hosts or how many songs there were will in the semis or something like that.

Joni
6th November 2015, 23:16
Krista Siegfrieds will be the other host in UMK, the other one is Roope Salminen (UMK15). Here is a short music video of them and their job as the UMK hosts. http://yle.fi/aihe/artikkeli/2015/11/06/krista-siegfrids-ja-roope-salminen-juontavat-uuden-musiikin-kilpailun-2016

The artists will be revealed on 12 January.

JTL90
6th November 2015, 23:16
^ Joni was faster than me

Fred
9th November 2015, 07:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHReqKRvonE

wHY NOT, FINLAND?

sharkan
15th December 2015, 18:42
Looking forward to 12 January when they will present all songs. I hope the level of UMK 2016 will catch up to 2013-2014 editions. 2015 was very disappointing.

Joni
22nd December 2015, 00:06
Like in 2015, there will be 18 songs and they have made a music video for each song.

PamSwynford
22nd December 2015, 01:09
Like in 2015, there will be 18 songs and they have made a music video for each song.

I think that the 18 songs rule isn't such a good idea.

Joni
1st January 2016, 09:47
"Mystery pics" and instrumental snippets (?) of the songs here

https://www.instagram.com/uudenmusiikinkilpailu/

Joni
1st January 2016, 09:56
Only 4 songs out of the 18 are in Finnish this year.

Joni
1st January 2016, 10:00
Is Mikael Saari back? :confused:

https://www.instagram.com/p/__Pb-QM7EJ/?taken-by=uudenmusiikinkilpailu

QwaarJet
1st January 2016, 10:24
Is Mikael Saari back? :confused:

https://www.instagram.com/p/__Pb-QM7EJ/?taken-by=uudenmusiikinkilpailu

Don't tease me! I would love him to be back and avenge his wrongful defeat by Krista.

Joni
1st January 2016, 10:39
Number 14 must be Saara Aalto, she has the same words on her facebook page.

Joni
1st January 2016, 14:32
Number 5 is very probably Cristal Snow who was in the NF back in 2008.

Number 11 is very probably Pää-Äijät which is unfortunately the Finnish equivalent of Staysman & Lazz.

AshleyWright
1st January 2016, 15:50
Number 5 is very probably Cristal Snow who was in the NF back in 2008.

Number 11 is very probably Pää-Äijät which is unfortunately the Finnish equivalent of Staysman & Lazz.

WOAH. UNFORTUNATELY?! If their song is anything like 'En Godt Stekt Pizza' then we are onto something great and epic here. xheat

Joni
1st January 2016, 16:54
^ Weeell, if you are into that kinda stuff...

The number 6 is probably the older generation schlager queen Eini.

Joni
1st January 2016, 17:06
Testing... why my post doesn't show up here..

theCONWEL
1st January 2016, 17:11
I'm excited for UMK! I hope the standard is as high as last year xheat

Also, some of the instrumentals sound cool! :D

Joni
1st January 2016, 17:13
Number 15 is apparently this singer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od9sz8gll38

Sammy
1st January 2016, 20:56
blazing fire sounds promising....

ESCPOLAND
1st January 2016, 21:47
Yes, some snippets sounds so promising so I hope that songs will be great! Impatiently waiting for UMK :D

Fred
2nd January 2016, 00:38
Gotta Raise them hands up tonight sound promising with a R&B and Latino touch <3
"Finnish Beyoncé" Any clue, finnish friends?

Fred
2nd January 2016, 00:40
Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat sounds like my personal pleasure.

Joni
2nd January 2016, 00:49
Gotta Raise them hands up tonight sound promising with a R&B and Latino touch <3
"Finnish Beyoncé" Any clue, finnish friends?

We have tried really hard but it's quite difficult. :D

I am almost sure of these though:

5. Cristal Snow
6. Eini
11. Pää-äijät
14. Saara Aalto
15. Sandhja

And everybody is asking whether number 9 is Mikael Saari or not. I guess we will just have to wait for 10 days.

Fred
2nd January 2016, 01:10
We have tried really hard but it's quite difficult. :D

On the snippet, one guy commented: "Täst tulee jotenki mielee Jenniy, ihan vähän"
Who's Jenniy?

Joni
2nd January 2016, 11:20
I don't know about her, this contest usually has a lot of artists that almost nobody has heard of. According to one article, this singer originally from Romania could be one of the singers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZFWLMDTjaA

PamSwynford
2nd January 2016, 11:30
http://www.nelonen.fi/uutiset/viihde/1561007-the-voice-of-finland--laulaja-on-kuin-suomen-beyonce---tahtivalmentajat-empivat
I've noticed a hashtag "suomenbeyonce" on the 13th insert, and Google said that the press called a girl from The Voice (Camilla Bäckman) with that nick. Maybe she's in the line-up?

Joni
2nd January 2016, 11:43
http://www.nelonen.fi/uutiset/viihde/1561007-the-voice-of-finland--laulaja-on-kuin-suomen-beyonce---tahtivalmentajat-empivat
I've noticed a hashtag "suomenbeyonce" on the 13th insert, and Google said that the press called a girl from The Voice (Camilla Bäckman) with that nick. Maybe she's in the line-up?

Possible... there are always singers from the Voice in the UMK. But they have also called others as Finland's Beyonce like Diandra... that pic doesn't look like her though.

eerik
2nd January 2016, 20:18
Camilla Bäckman

I hope she's not related to Johan Bäckman in any way.

Fred
2nd January 2016, 23:03
I'm very excited with the Suomen Beyoncé ♥
Also, now that I've heard the snippet with earbuds, it sounds like "Focus" or "Problem" chorus.

ZoboCamel
3rd January 2016, 03:26
Is Mikael Saari back? :confused:

https://www.instagram.com/p/__Pb-QM7EJ/?taken-by=uudenmusiikinkilpailu


Been inactive on the forums for a couple weeks due to a family holiday, but I felt the need to come by and say:

HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE HYPE

Lame sweater, English lyrics about love, and a sweeping orchestral/folk backing track... that seems like a pretty promising sign of Mikael Saari to me. We Should Be Through might still be my favourite ever NF song depending on my mood (or even just my favourite song, period), so... I will hope!

DanielLuis
3rd January 2016, 04:44
Is Mikael Saari back? :confused:

https://www.instagram.com/p/__Pb-QM7EJ/?taken-by=uudenmusiikinkilpailu

Wether that is Mikael Saari or not, that snippet sounds very promising

RomanFromRussia
3rd January 2016, 08:57
Wether that is Mikael Saari or not, that snippet sounds very promising

I just hope he changed his haircut xrofl

RBDimabilan
4th January 2016, 00:26
I want Mikael Saari comes back to Umk this year. Actually, I was not thinking that he participate in Umk again and I am much surprised when I hear this rumor. I hope he comes back, hopefully! We should be through was very good song, I think. Can't wait for #9. Silhouette looks like Mikael Saari and the song is similar to Wsbt.

Romeo
4th January 2016, 00:48
I was hoping Benjamin would be in the line-up but I dont think he is :(

Joni
4th January 2016, 22:20
https://artwork-cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/050/219/0005021919_350.jpg

This and some other pics are already out, they don't even try to keep it secret.

Pawhlen
5th January 2016, 03:10
What kind of crap are you gonna choose this year?

Schlagerman1
5th January 2016, 03:32
When I listened through the Instagram bits (which are hard to judge, but still find them interesting in many parts) I noticed that it was many "normal" songs in this edition. I suppose the absolutely crazy final from last year scared YLE a bit, which contained EVERYTHING you can't think of in a ESC final. :lol: So I suppose that it will be a much more calm year this time, maybe also one that the right song wins (and not the fennoswede one just by default as in the past)

Joni
5th January 2016, 09:37
What kind of crap are you gonna choose this year?

My guess would be this

https://artwork-cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/050/105/0005010586_350.jpg

Sammy
5th January 2016, 10:03
My guess would be this

https://artwork-cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/050/105/0005010586_350.jpg
I love the glasses :lol:

eerik
5th January 2016, 18:03
My guess would be this

https://artwork-cdn.7static.com/static/img/sleeveart/00/050/105/0005010586_350.jpg

What's their name supposed to mean? Head fathers-in-law? And "Champagne heaven"?

Joni
5th January 2016, 18:24
What's their name supposed to mean? Head fathers-in-law? And "Champagne heaven"?

Well, I guess it could be translated The Main Guys or something. It is ambiguous because pää means both head and main. Äijä usually means just a guy, sometimes a father in slang.

Anyway, I hope they don't do well...

ZoboCamel
5th January 2016, 19:27
Mikael Saari just updated his Facebook profile picture to what seems to be a new album cover. (https://www.facebook.com/mikaelsaariofficial/photos/a.187068518061578.29549.181770495258047/714736008628157/?type=3) I'm liking the building evidence for him being snippet #9.

Joni
5th January 2016, 19:47
Mikael Saari just updated his Facebook profile picture to what seems to be a new album cover. (https://www.facebook.com/mikaelsaariofficial/photos/a.187068518061578.29549.181770495258047/714736008628157/?type=3) I'm liking the building evidence for him being snippet #9.

Hmm... I wonder what that is.

Schlagerman1
12th January 2016, 11:39
About 15 mins left till the finnish songs are announced: http://yle.fi/aihe/umk-2016

Joni
12th January 2016, 12:10
All the songs and videos are here already

http://yle.fi/aihe/umk-2016

GlamSIMorous
12th January 2016, 12:28
Been listening to a few and I must say: A lot of them are rather bland, I do have my favourite already, but gotta listen to all of them. Yet the music videos are once again pretty good ;)

Joni
12th January 2016, 12:35
Here is Mikael Saari


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnVmDdLKuhE

ZoboCamel
12th January 2016, 12:51
Ooh, Mikael Saari's song is certainly... interesting. I know I like it, but I've got no idea yet of whether it's a mild like or an absolute love. Two listens so far, and I still can't quite wrap my head around it - there's no real chorus, no real repetition, and a lot of building, flowing parts to it. It's certainly unique, but I think I'll need another ten or twenty listens at least to figure out exactly what I think - I could end up seeing it as just another decent song or an absolute masterpiece.

QwaarJet
12th January 2016, 13:04
Saari's song is a bit of a letdown. The snippet we heard was literally the best part of the song.

Joni
12th January 2016, 13:37
Here are all the songs too

https://play.spotify.com/album/5o0T0fyowO0TY9ZL0oSqoH

QwaarJet
12th January 2016, 13:41
Here are all the songs too

https://play.spotify.com/album/5o0T0fyowO0TY9ZL0oSqoH

Only one of the songs is playable.

Joni
12th January 2016, 13:50
Only one of the songs is playable.

Oh, not here, must be some country limitation thingy.

RainyWoods
12th January 2016, 14:05
Just listened through them all and will share my opinions later but two things:

1. Nothing compares to Opera Skaala. Not even close.

2. That Mikael Saari song is a major let down. After such an incredibly poignant and powerful piece of music he comes back with that strangely dull, overproduced and exaggerated song. So unfortunate. I was all ready to support him.

Fred
12th January 2016, 14:06
OHHHH!!!
RAFAELA TRUDA ♥ ♥ ♥
With dance, lights as the Suomen Ariana Grande, it'll be great *-*

I expected more for Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat, but now it's just.. meh!

Joni
12th January 2016, 15:14
I guess this "Denmark song" is our best chance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa8Jp0HFDy0

QwaarJet
12th January 2016, 15:38
I guess this "Denmark song" is our best chance


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa8Jp0HFDy0

That is absolutely terrible.

ChernyVolk
12th January 2016, 15:52
Pick 3
Sarah
Barbe-Q-Barbies
Rafaela Truda

Underdog
Lieminem

sharkan
12th January 2016, 16:07
Definitely much better line-up than in 2015 which was so varied that it was just odd. This year YLE plays safer.

I have 3 immidiate favourites: Mikael Saari, Barbe-Q-Barbies and Sandhja. I think I enjoy Cristal Snow, a duo and Saara Aalto too. In general, I like most of songs.

Finland is on the right track again after UMK 2015. I am glad.

tsegaye
12th January 2016, 16:26
Too bad the chorus and rap part sucks in Rise Up...

sharkan
12th January 2016, 16:48
^ I think this rap is the best part of the song.

Uvaro
12th January 2016, 16:49
really liking stella christine's song, and overall the songs are sounding a lot better than last year.

tsegaye
12th January 2016, 16:50
^ I think this rap is the best part of the song.

I didn't actually listen to what she was rapping, I just don't like it because it makes it even more obvious that it's trying to sound like Problem.

Katinka
12th January 2016, 16:55
My favourites at the moment: Saara Aalto, Mikael Saari and Annica&Kimmo. But everything can change after live shows.

Franco
12th January 2016, 18:20
The songs are not bad, though no one captured me at first listening. We'll see if they grow later.
But the videos are crazy. :mrgreen:
The craziest one is Rafaela Truda spoofing famous paintings. :lol:

EscGeek
12th January 2016, 18:41
one of the strongest line ups ever!

I'm going through the songs for a second time now xlisten2

Bravo Suomi xbow

EscGeek
12th January 2016, 19:56
My winner and also contender number #2 for my winner of 2016 is... xcheer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gOQmP4HHgc
Finland should rock the stage and repeat history

other songs i'd rate with a 10/10 xlisten2

2-Attention 2 "Ready For the Show"
3-Stella Christine "Ain't Got Time for Boys"
4-Pää-Äijät "Shampanjataivas"
5-Pietarin Spektaakkeli "Liian kuuma"
6-Cristal Snow "Love is Blind"
7-Sandhja "Sing it Away"
8-Saara Aalto "No Fear"
9-Gušani Brothers "Poom Poom"
10-Rafaela Truda "Rise Up"
11-Lieminen "Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat"

Sammy
12th January 2016, 22:04
After the first listening, those stand out for me:
Eini - Draamaa xyaay
Pää-äijät – shamppanjataivas xlisten2
Stella Christine: Ain't got time for boys
Christal Snow: Love is blind
Sandhja: Sing it away

The others are mostly decent, the only one I really don't like is that awful I'm-so-grown-up-Amy-Diamond-clone-duo

Joni
12th January 2016, 22:38
one of the strongest line ups ever!

I'm going through the songs for a second time now xlisten2

Bravo Suomi xbow

Good that someone likes it! I am not too thrilled...

ESCPOLAND
12th January 2016, 22:38
This is very catchy My numer one in Finland :O


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmgNZE7kQoo

sharkan
12th January 2016, 23:31
Good that someone likes it! I am not too thrilled...

I love it as well.
I dare to say that the level is similar to 2013-2014 and in these two year Finland had the strongest NF imo.

Mrm
13th January 2016, 01:21
RainyWoods

OMG EINI - "Draamaa" is a killer, she must win and go to Stockholm, she can be contender to win in Stockholm, they shouldb't miss such an opportunity!! xbow

RainyWoods
13th January 2016, 01:35
RainyWoods

OMG EINI - "Draamaa" is a killer, she must win and go to Stockholm, she can be contender to win in Stockholm, they shouldb't miss such an opportunity!! xbow

I was planning to reveal tonight my love for "Draamaa":lol: I think it's quite easily my favourite song here. Hot 80's synth-laden verses and a super catchy chorus. I can't help but be the biggest sucker for the song.

I find UMK very disappointing this year in comparison to the previous Finnish selection that was incredibly fun. There are many songs here that I think can do well for Finland, but the ones I can see succeeding don't interest me. I'm kind of in love with how Finland are doing things these days though. Solid songs and fantastic music videos for each of them.

Schlagerman1
13th January 2016, 02:46
A pretty decent line-up this year! Noticeble that YLE wanted a more calm NF this year, but still a pretty high quality.

Here is my top 5:

5th is Pietarin Spektaakkeli! Cool and funny song with a great melody. Sticks to the head like glue. It has to qualify to the final at least! :D

4th is actually Rafaela Truda! Didn't think I would like it, but damn it is so Ariana Grande that it is HILARIOUS! :lol: And she seems quite charming as well. And watch out, she is a fennoswede after all, and we all know the fennoswedes got a lot of power when supporting one of their own in this NF...

3rd is Gušani Brothers! Catchy, fun, summerish song that just makes one wanna party. This one could make the Globen glow and jump if chosen to Eurovision. Also, if it works live, then I can see it do pretty okay in Eurovision, at least qualify to the final. :D

2nd is the lovely Mikael Saari! Same style as "We Should Be Through" but maybe slightly more complicated. But that ending will be marvelous live, getting goosebumps in the thought of it. Should actually win this NF pretty easily, and if he do, then Finland will be top 15. If Norway got 8th last year, why shouldn't this do almost as well? :mrgreen:

And my number one is Cristal Snow. Wow, what a song, it really got into me. Stunning melody and the lyrics is beautifully fit to it. Really looking forward to see what it will be live, I got a feeling for something different, but still effective. Great to see Cristal back in the NF, and also with something completly different, but still amazing.

But yeah, Mikael Saari SHOULD win this NF...but you never know with Finland, they have surprised us in the past. Is Finland maybe ready for Cristal now after all? Or will the Fennoswedes vote Arian...I mean Rafaela Truda to Globen. Looking forward to this! :D

Fred
13th January 2016, 05:51
I'll be a Rafaela Truda supporter ♥
I've loved it since the snippet!
Yuuusssss :3

ZoboCamel
13th January 2016, 11:01
Hoping for Saari to win, but when I last saw the odds to win he was at something like 20/1. Would be nice to see him overcome the odds, but I'm not sure. Either way, it seems pretty difficult to pick out a winner one way or another at the moment... I'm curious to take another look at the odds in a week or so from now.

RainyWoods
13th January 2016, 13:53
xbowSUPER SIZZLING HOTxheat

EINI: “Draamaa” - What can I say? I just couldn't resist this ones charms. Just so darn infectious. The verses are mysterious and crunchy then the chorus just explodes. The Finnish language sounds so good to my ears. All the pieces just connect here for me. As pop music gets colder, harsher and more up it's own backside, this song here is like a 'lil beacon of light. I know a lot of people aren't going to like it, and it probably doesn't stand a chance of winning, but i'm just so delighted to see it here.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6V4X_anKn4


I adore the music video as well. What a storyline! Eini's car breaks down and she's left on the roadside, frustrated as cars drive past her. She braves the woods and twiggery. A bright blinding light leads Eini through the fog to a repair garage! She walks in to find an assortment of hunky men who have been working hard with their spanners. It's coy smiles all round for a while until Eini starts to slowly sway. Before long tops are off and the hottest garage party of all time is taking place. The video finishes with a spanner being hoisted into the air, perhaps a sign that Eini's car has now been repaired.






DAMMIT SEND DRAAMAA TO EUROVISION!xheat


Liking

STELLA CHRISTINE: “Ain’t Got Time For Boys” - Very chill and soulful. Reminds me of the music I was listening to a lot back in the mid 00's.
LIEMINEN: “Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat” - Quite a wonderful piece of electronic pop. It's certainly groovy. Clearly quite Daft Punk inspired.
CLEMSO: “Thief” - I thought this would be something i'd instantly disregard. I haven't a good history with NF songs with a touch of African flavour but this is pretty cool though. There's a lot going on with the music. A very full and rich sound.
RAFAELA TRUDA: “Rise Up” - Another one I wasn't expecting to appreciate. Totally not my thing normally but I couldn't help but enjoy parts of it, especially that rap! I can see people going nuts for this, and I think i'll let them:lol:

Solid but not my thing

PÄÄ-ÄIJÄT: “Shamppanjataivas” - Like a "Pizza" part 2. Fun for sure but not my kind to be honest.
ANNICA MILÁN & KIMMO BLOM: “Good Enough” - This just about avoided my "Don't like" pile. It's ok and melodically goes to not where exactly i'm expecting it to go. It's alright. I wouldn't choose to listen to it though.
BARBE-Q-BARBIES: “Let Me Out” - Hammy rock. Nice guitar solo, other than that i'm not really feeling it.

Undecided

SAARA AALTO: “No Fear” - Gosh, this song confuses the heck out of me. So much I like and so much I don't. The strong Indian touch is wonderful but there are parts that spoil it. A bit too sparkly in parts.
PIETARIN SPEKTAAKKELI: “Liian kuuma” - This stands out but I can't say it's grabbed me at the moment.
CRISTAL SNOW: “Love Is Blind” - At first I was like "Uhhhh" but I have to admit by the end something caught me. Perhaps how forward and strong the vocals are here helped me. The song isn't anything special but it's an ear worm.
MIKKO HERRANEN: “Evil Tone” - Looking at the thumbnail for the video on youtube I was like in my head "Dude, please be good". On my very first listen I thought this was the most boring, cliche piece of soft rock I had ever heard. I gave it another go just now though and whilst it's still nothing extraordinary, my first thoughts were perhaps a tad harsh. This isn't as bad as I thought it was.
SANDHJA: “Sing It Away” - I could end up liking this one but will need more time with it. It's catchy, a little bit funky. Not super original but it does what it says on the tin.


Don't like

ATTENTION 2: “Ready For The Show” - xfaint No words for this one...
GUŠANI BROTHERS: “Poom Poom” - Not my kind of trash.
MIKAEL SAARI: “On It Goes” - I've already shared my opinion on this. Just such a disappointing song that leaves me cold. Overproduced and overblown, dare I say pretentious. It doesn't hold a candle to "We Should Be Through".
TUULI OKKONEN: “Don’t Wake Me Up” - Dull chorus that just floats in the middle of nowhere.
YLONA: “Blazing Fire” - Zzzzzzzzz sorry, i'm actually running out of words.



All in all it's a kind of disappointing selection compared to last years. I've got my hype song though so i'm happyxlove

Franco
13th January 2016, 14:12
The video finishes with a spanner being hoisted into the air, perhaps a sign that Eini's car has now been repaired.


:lol:

sharkan
13th January 2016, 15:18
http://media.giphy.com/media/HWzeTWviYaoI8/giphy.gif

Kairit
13th January 2016, 20:05
I've had two quick listens... Sigh, not pleased.. Well, there's certainly no "Something Better" or "Sängyn Reunalla" magic of 2014, or "När Jag Blundar"... Those are the kind of quality songs I like Finland for. But here is not a single song I'm completely excited about that stirs some kind of feeling in me, to be honest. Oh well. It's either bland rock or pop I don't enjoy. Can't even pick a single example I like the most. The elements are there, these songs try so hard to be something (in a good way, I guess :?) but not the complete package, none of these songs is really all there for me. In theory I like "Liian Kuuma" a lot, but it has the forementioned problem. Saara Alto and Ylona are great in some parts, but over-all it's still... nope. Just not anything for me, no matter how hard I try to like these. xshrug

Dante
13th January 2016, 20:09
OMG, wait, I've just opened the link in a new tab and I have to share with you my first reaction: NO OPERA SKAALA?
I'm stuck in the past with her..I hoped for a strong comeback.

GianlucaTomoe
13th January 2016, 20:15
Well, there's certainly no "När Jag Blundar"

Thank God for that

Mrm
13th January 2016, 20:18
RainyWoods

You described "Draamaa" perfectly! xbow

It's MESMERIZING ad EINI is fantastic, she is MAGICAL! Video is truly a fascinating storyline.. I ADORE it!

I think Finland has a huge potential in Stockholm if thy pick fabulous EINI!! xlove xheart

DRAAMAA!!!!!!!! xsing

AshleyWright
13th January 2016, 21:35
http://spreadhead.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/theresa-may-gif-woah.gif

http://i.imgur.com/LdJajfk.gif


The hotness of this NF. xheat Finland is on fire this year. I think i've possibly found my hype country.

Love
Attention 2
Pää-Äijät
Eini
Rafaela Trudu

Like
Gušani Brothers
Tuuli Okkonen
Saara Aalto
Barbe-Q-Barbies
Ylona
Sandhja
ClemSO
Annica Milán & Kimmo Blom

Ok
Mikko Herranen
Cristal Snow
Mikael Saari

Dislike
Stella Christina
Lieminen

Hate with every fibre of my being
Pietarin Spektaakkeli

http://i.imgur.com/GRvMDDu.jpg
GO FINLAND, GO! ::fi ::fi ::fi
apart from Pietarin Spektaakkeli

lavieenrose
13th January 2016, 21:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6V4X_anKn4

Absolutely magnificent. I found myself dancing along from the first second, and her voice is actually deceptively rich. The explosion in the chorus slayed me - absolutely sent from the heavens.

Sammy
13th January 2016, 21:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6V4X_anKn4

Absolutely magnificent. I found myself dancing along from the first second, and her voice is actually deceptively rich. The explosion in the chorus slayed me - absolutely sent from the heavens.

Couldn't agree more. Draamaa is one of my top favorites in this line-up.

ParadiseES
13th January 2016, 22:15
xbowSUPER SIZZLING HOTxheat

EINI: “Draamaa”

After listening 5 seconds to this song you immediately came to my mind :lol:

Mrm
13th January 2016, 22:18
YEAAAH! lavieenrose RainyWoods Sammy and as i can notice AshleyWright xhugxcheers

LET THE DRAAMAA PARTY BEGIN!!xlisten2xyaayxyaaayxballon

DRAAMAA TO STOCKHOLM!! xyaaay

#DRAAMAAMANIA#xheat

Sammy
13th January 2016, 22:20
Let's hope, Finland choses wisely xpray

Mrm
13th January 2016, 22:21
Let's hope, Finland choses wisely xpray

Translation from Austrian English:

"Let's hope Finland picks Draamaa! xpray"

ParadiseES
13th January 2016, 22:21
After a first listening, I think UMK is weaker and less diverse this year. Nothing really strong, but there are some interesting songs. My faves are "Let me out" and "Poom poom". I like "Shamppanjataivas" too, it's fun, but maybe too repetitive, I got a bit tired of it before the end of the song.

Sammy
13th January 2016, 22:23
Translation from Austrian English:

"Let's hope Finland picks Draamaa! xpray"

That is in fact the proper translation. :mrgreen:

Mrm
13th January 2016, 22:28
Lupus

YEAH! Join the party! xyaaay

Sammy

Where are you from in Austria? Did you attend last edition of ESC in your country? :)

Sammy
13th January 2016, 22:31
Lupus

YEAH! Join the party! xyaaay

Sammy

Where are you from in Austria? Did you attend last edition of ESC in your country? :)
From Tyrol. I tried hard, but didn't get a ticket....

Lupus
13th January 2016, 22:34
Lupus

YEAH! Join the party! xyaaay

Just finishing off listening to the others so I can say it's the best one there having actually listened to the competition! :p

Lupus
13th January 2016, 23:03
OK, so gone through all 18 songs once and here are my thoughts:

Overall a pretty good National Final lineup! Only dislike a few songs and have a good few I want to see at ESC this year!

LOVE

Draamaa: Simply amazing song. Agree with all the above love for this and hope it wins.
Love Is Blind: Oh my! Really sweet song and I could see it being performed amazingly well! I like songs with stories and this one tells it well.
Good Enough: More than "Good Enough" for me (hahahaha...) as the duet works well. Not my favourite, but still pretty darn good.
Don't Wake Me Up: This is my dark horse for my personal favourite. Felt vibes during this similar to those I felt in MF last year for a song which is still my favourite ever from a Eurovision NF. Not at that level yet, but could be. Watch this space...
Let Me Out: I was so unsure about this at first, but it really grew on me. Something a little different and I could see it doing well.

LIKE

Blazing Fire: Almost a love, but not quite there. Just not quite feeling it enough.
No Fear
Ready for the Show
On it Goes: xheat Nice singer! ;)
Sing it Away: There's something in her voice which I find offputting. Then again, I said that at first about Václav's voice last year, so who knows!
Poom Poom: Another one I like but not sure I should. :)

OK
Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat
Evil Tone
Time For Boys
Thief

I just find all of these uninspiring but not painful to listen to.

NO
Shamppanjataivas
Rise Up
Liian kuuma

These are the ones I really don't enjoy and couldn't get all the way through the song without losing interest. Just not my kind of music!

Ringdalen
13th January 2016, 23:28
Pää-Äijät are AWESOME!!!! xbow

I will check out the rest later, but Shamppanjataivas just became my new jam xheart xheat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B13lpHA27dw

cegs5
14th January 2016, 00:13
lavieenrose RainyWoods How predictable you are... your favourite is an old-school f@g hag diva, our lovely Eini xrose Yes, we need that Pot H in WorldVision that Calvin suggested some time ago,

Mrm
14th January 2016, 00:16
lavieenrose@RainyWoods How predictable you are... your favourite is an old-school f@g hag diva, our lovely Eini xrose Yes, we need that Pot H in WorldVision that Calvin suggested some time ago,

Hey you maldito!! xgaah

I began with the DRAAMAAMANIA for your precious information!! :mrgreen:

lavieenrose
14th January 2016, 00:20
lavieenrose RainyWoods How predictable you are... your favourite is an old-school f@g hag diva, our lovely Eini xrose Yes, we need that Pot H in WorldVision that Calvin suggested some time ago,

WAIT she's had a solo career since 1978? This may just be a catalogue I have to check out; you know my position on folk, women usually, accomplished and talented ones, almost royal...you could say Queen but not quite...Quens yes that'll do.. and they're from another time, almost like yesterday but brought out to a greater scale...how does Yesteryear sound? RainyWoods holy goodness we're supporting the Quen of Yesteryear xheat Pot H unite behind Eini! xcheer

Lupus
14th January 2016, 00:35
lavieenrose RainyWoods How predictable you are... your favourite is an old-school f@g hag diva, our lovely Eini xrose Yes, we need that Pot H in WorldVision that Calvin suggested some time ago,

'Scuse me; my favourite too! :p

cegs5
14th January 2016, 00:43
Hey you maldito!! xgaah

I began with the DRAAMAAMANIA for your precious information!! :mrgreen:

All the credits for you my lord... that weakness for stars of the 70's even without knowing that fact, it's just a stigma.


WAIT she's had a solo career since 1978? This may just be a catalogue I have to check out; you know my position on folk, women usually, accomplished and talented ones, almost royal...you could say Queen but not quite...Quens yes that'll do.. and they're from another time, almost like yesterday but brought out to a greater scale...how does Yesteryear sound? @<b><a href="http://www.escunited.com/member.php?u=9441" target="_blank">RainyWoods</a></b> holy goodness we're supporting the Quen of Yesteryear xheat Pot H unite behind Eini! xcheer

You can have a look at a very expensive video clip she made, they obviously had to travel all the way to Paris to film it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzt53nx1JOQ

lavieenrose
14th January 2016, 00:44
Here's a photo of me, Ashley, Robert, Rainy, and Cesar cheering for Eini. Sammy and Mrm are too busy dancing to "Draaaaamaaaaa" xheat
http://www.engaygedweddings.com/images-lgbt-weddings/texas-lgbt-weddings/shutterwhale/670-shutterwhale-gay-men-jumping.jpg

EDIT: I don't know why I chose this photo. There's going to be way too much competition to be the one on the far right (spoiler alert: it's me).

cegs5
14th January 2016, 00:44
'Scuse me; my favourite too! :p

You are very welcome to the Pot H xrose

Lupus
14th January 2016, 00:54
Errr... cegs5, lavieenrose... Am I allowed to put "Love Is Blind" at the top too and still remain in Pot H? xpray I may have slightly fallen in love with both the singer and the lyrics...

"You look like Jesus but you taste like sin" xheat

btw check out his top ten on Spotify; that looks fairly Pot H to me! http://yle.fi/aihe/tapahtuma/2016/01/12/cristal-snow

lavieenrose
14th January 2016, 00:56
Errr... cegs5, lavieenrose... Am I allowed to put "Love Is Blind" at the top too and still remain in Pot H? xpray I may have slightly fallen in love with both the singer and the lyrics...

"You look like Jesus but you taste like sin" xheat

btw check out his top ten on Spotify; that looks fairly Pot H to me! http://yle.fi/aihe/tapahtuma/2016/01/12/cristal-snow

Tentatively you are. He does indeed have a very hot Spotify playlist, including my WV scorewhore one of my WV entries, though not quite as hot as Eini's with its Donna Summer and ABBA. xsnooty

Lupus
14th January 2016, 01:01
Tentatively you are. He does indeed have a very hot Spotify playlist, including my WV scorewhore one of my WV entries, though not quite as hot as Eini's with its Donna Summer and ABBA. xsnooty

That's OK then! xheya I still adore Eini and would be overjoyed to see her at Eurovision #PotH

cegs5
14th January 2016, 01:25
Lupus Putting at the top a campy singer over a f@g hag? How very dare you!

It's OK :lol:

sharkan
14th January 2016, 03:13
@RainyWoods (http://www.escunited.com/member.php?u=9441)

You described "Draamaa" perfectly! xbow

It's MESMERIZING ad EINI is fantastic, she is MAGICAL! Video is truly a fascinating storyline.. I ADORE it!

I think Finland has a huge potential in Stockholm if thy pick fabulous EINI!! xlove xheart

DRAAMAA!!!!!!!! xsing

Queen xheart


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcbVZPslVes

sharkan
14th January 2016, 03:17
Ok but are you for real with Draammaa? It is so old-fashioned, so tacky and it will fail in Eurovision.
Yes it is fun to mock this cheap song during NF season but that's it.

pinkchiffon
14th January 2016, 06:40
Draamaa is me af :lol: xheya

sharkan
14th January 2016, 11:55
https://open.spotify.com/user/112673760/playlist/1th92ljXkS0Dulfx21eNVZ

All songs are available on Spotify

cegs5
14th January 2016, 16:12
Ok but are you for real with Draammaa? It is so old-fashioned, so tacky and it will fail in Eurovision.
Yes it is fun to mock this cheap song during NF season but that's it.

xheat

Who really cares about winning? It's Finland not Sweden.

AshleyWright
14th January 2016, 16:43
Eini take over. She's the clear forum favourite now. xheat

sharkan
14th January 2016, 16:54
Who really cares about winning? It's Finland not Sweden.


That's why you should care :P

King Valentino
14th January 2016, 17:07
Hello my friends, hello ESCUNITED. I would like to express my love of the song Draamaa by Finnish singer Eini. So many emotion I feel when I hear the song. My spirits are lifted. Please, my message to the people of Finland. Send Eini to the stage of Eurovision.

Ciao, my kisses, Valentino x

lavieenrose
14th January 2016, 17:28
That's why you should care :P

Should they, though? ESC is an established enough brand in Finland that it's going to stay afloat no matter how many NQs they get, so why not send what they want to send on their own terms. They don't need to send what Sweden want to send; that's why we have Sweden. I do agree with you that there's no way "Draamaa" will even make it out of the semis, let alone win, but that's not Finland's goal.

RainyWoods
14th January 2016, 19:05
Every hyped song must have a selection of gifs. I present to you all the story of Draamaa.


http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/Z16fzp.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/n-w2xG.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/C3xQBb.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/v4Mdws.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/ruXuRk.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/rQu-f4.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/KF8Ura.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/Kf5hb8.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/NNInQA.gifxheartxheat
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/T7nlMU.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/fr5F_g.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/CEsCyg.gif
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/TqFSkM.gif

Lupus
14th January 2016, 19:49
Should they, though? ESC is an established enough brand in Finland that it's going to stay afloat no matter how many NQs they get, so why not send what they want to send on their own terms. They don't need to send what Sweden want to send; that's why we have Sweden. I do agree with you that there's no way "Draamaa" will even make it out of the semis, let alone win, but that's not Finland's goal.

Agree so much with this! Finland have a special quality at Eurovision. They are far from my favourite country but they do seem to stand out (for better or for worse!) with what they send. Sometimes it really pays off (Lordi of course), but others it fails miserably (2015...). I hope that they continue to send the more unusual entries and I think Draaamaaaa would be a great addition to that history.

sharkan
14th January 2016, 20:13
Should they, though? ESC is an established enough brand in Finland that it's going to stay afloat no matter how many NQs they get, so why not send what they want to send on their own terms. They don't need to send what Sweden want to send; that's why we have Sweden. I do agree with you that there's no way "Draamaa" will even make it out of the semis, let alone win, but that's not Finland's goal.

I don't get this approach. To me it sounds rather like people in this forum will take a pleasure from the fact that Finland will not qualify. Why not suggest the same approach to other countries? Why people wish that country X will do well in ESC?
I wish Finland to do best in ESC.



They don't need to send what Sweden want to send; that's why we have Sweden.

And how Sweden could influnece Finnish results? I have no idea what this sentence suppose to mean.

sharkan
14th January 2016, 20:14
I hope that they continue to send the more unusual entries and I think Draaamaaaa would be a great addition to that history.

Norway was bashed by sending Guri Shanke. Why do want Finland to be bashed?
Wasn't enough of that last year?

Lupus
14th January 2016, 20:22
Norway was bashed by sending Guri Shanke.

Which was in my top ten for that year...


Why do want Finland to be bashed? Wasn't enough of that last year?

I have no idea where you have got that from. I want Finland to send the slight more "out there" entries regardless of what people think. Sometimes this will prove very successful, other times it will not. What I am saying is that I don't want the failures to make them seek a more "safe" strategy. I have no wish for any country to get "bashed" at Eurovision and I don't like the insinuation that I do, especially based on such little evidence.

lavieenrose
14th January 2016, 20:44
I don't get this approach. To me it sounds rather like people in this forum will take a pleasure from the fact that Finland will not qualify. Why not suggest the same approach to other countries? Why people wish that country X will do well in ESC?
I wish Finland to do best in ESC.




And how Sweden could influnece Finnish results? I have no idea what this sentence suppose to mean.

I'm sorry; I thought you implied that using potential results and strategy (the Sweden approach) should influence Finland's approach. And I want Finland to do well too, but I care a lot less about that than about sending a song they care about passionately, and I think Finland feels the same way.

sharkan
14th January 2016, 20:45
I have no idea where you have got that from. I want Finland to send the slight more "out there" entries regardless of what people think. Sometimes this will prove very successful, other times it will not. What I am saying is that I don't want the failures to make them seek a more "safe" strategy. I have no wish for any country to get "bashed" at Eurovision and I don't like the insinuation that I do, especially based on such little evidence.

I understand that you want to see "out there" approach but then I assume that it should be your wish for all participating countries. My arguement is that specific country should never take "out there" approach to that extend that it will undermine its chances in the contest. The need to be balance between being "out there" and competitiveness.
Eini's entry is neither nor. Her song is just a old-fashioned schalger - nothing more.

toinou03
14th January 2016, 20:48
@<b><a href="http://www.escunited.com/member.php?u=9441" target="_blank">RainyWoods</a></b>
Epic Gifs ! :lol:

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/C3xQBb.gif
FUUUUUUUUCK !!!!!

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/Kf5hb8.gif
Wait... I dunno...

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/NNInQA.gif
Oh dear !

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/fr5F_g.gif
xqueenbitch

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/1-14-2016/TqFSkM.gif
VICTORY !!!!

sharkan
14th January 2016, 20:48
And I want Finland to do well too, but I care a lot less about that than about sending a song they care about passionately, and I think Finland feels the same way.

Fair enough.
And why do you think that it has to Eini ?

From my observations Saara Aalto is considered as early favourite to win.

Lupus
14th January 2016, 20:51
I understand that you want to see "out there" approach but then I assume that it should be your wish for all participating countries. My arguement is that specific country should never take "out there" approach to that extend that it will undermine its chances in the contest. The need to be balance between being "out there" and competitiveness.
Eini's entry is neither nor. Her song is just a old-fashioned schalger - nothing more.

It is my wish for Finland because they are one of the few countries that seem to do that a lot. The contest works so well because it has variety and because different countries treat it differently. If they were to all send "out there" songs, I think that ESC would lose some of its appeal, just as it would lose its appeal if we had songs like "Heroes" from every country. So I suppose that I want some participating countries to do so, not necessarily Finland, but definitely not all of them. If Finland changed tack, it would shift the balance we currently have and that would frankly worry me. As for winning, well seeing as they've won in the last decade, then surely I can wait 30 or so years before worrying that they haven't won in a while? I would be far more worried about such things if this were Malta or Portugal or France, as it HAS been a while since they won!

Eini's entry, for me, fits in well with what I want to see from Finland. I appreciate that may not be an opinion shared by all, but I remain firm in my conviction that it is so. There is little point in discussing it as we are both correct; you see it as old-fashioned schlager; I see it otherwise.

sharkan
14th January 2016, 21:18
Well agree with your opinion that there should be variety but we don't need to have same countries to have the same approach. I belive that specifc country does not need select the same type of entries every time. It creates labels.

Joni
14th January 2016, 23:19
About 100 voters now in Finnish ESC forum + escstats

http://www.escstats.com/update20160114.jpg

pinkchiffon
14th January 2016, 23:36
I can't see the UMK audience ever going for a song like Annica and Kimmo's. And if Mikael didn't manage it last time, I doubt he will this time.

Mattan
14th January 2016, 23:54
Predicting the UMK winner prior to the live shows is impossible as I'm all too used to seeing trainwrecks springing up, but if I had to guess now, I'd say Annica and Kimmo. The song offends few people and sticks in your head, not to mention the singers are good. I don't rate Saara Aalto's song at all (repeating "no fear" a hundred times over a generic and badly produced beat does not a winner make), and even though she'll probably do well, it can very well fall short. Mikael Saari seems more suitable for ESC than UMK in terms of success, but he can get the voters on his side. He just needs to do that.

A problem with Annica&Kimmo is that Cristal Snow fills roughly the same niche, so the votes may be split (or Cristal Snow does better). Outsiders may include Pää-äijät and Rafaela Truda, the latter of which received massive free publicity when the tabloids wondered if her song plagiarised Ariana Grande. I don't think country bumpkin disco has much of a chance in UMK, though, and Rafaela Truda is in the wrong semi. She'll struggle to make the final with a favourite having to fail in order for that to happen.

Joni
15th January 2016, 00:04
^ I doubt Cristal Snow will do well, quite many people find him annoying.

Schlagerman1
15th January 2016, 01:23
^ I doubt Cristal Snow will do well, quite many people find him annoying.

Sure, I understand that many finns might dislike him a lot, but don't you think that he is quite popular among the lgbt-finns? Also this more "masculine" version of him with a real love-song might surprise many straight people (if he goes with that live too).

To be honest, I have actually no idea how this NF will go. My mind says Mikael Saari, my heart hopes for Cristal but my feeling in my stomach says it will be a horrible surprise of some sort... Well it will be exciting to follow the NF for sure.

And about the craze for Elni, yes I do like the song, she is among my faves in the first semi (which is absolutely the worst semi in my opinion). I hope she goes to the final if it works live, but there it is enough for me. ;)

Lupus
15th January 2016, 01:25
Sure, I understand that many finns might dislike him a lot, but don't you think that he is quite popular among the lgbt-finns?

OK, I read this as "LGBT-fans" at first and went "YES, that's so true!" Hope he wins. Lovely song and I could see it being staged in such an epic way. However, it could also be staged terribly and my love of the song would suddenly go I fear!

sharkan
15th January 2016, 01:30
I am fine with Cristal Snow winning. His song is good.
BUT He is very weak vocally.

Schlagerman1
15th January 2016, 01:30
OK, I read this as "LGBT-fans" at first and went "YES, that's so true!" Hope he wins. Lovely song and I could see it being staged in such an epic way. However, it could also be staged terribly and my love of the song would suddenly go I fear!

haha yeah I feel exactly the same. :D It is Cristal Snow after all, so something special on stage is meant to be! But the question is what.
I hope for some kind of David Bowie-feeling to it perhaps, because I can both see and hear slight Bowie-inspiration to this song.
Would be cool if he could take in something Bowiesque to it! :D

sharkan
15th January 2016, 01:41
^ you mean the theme-wise?

music-wise is it is more HURTS inspired to me.

Schlagerman1
15th January 2016, 01:51
^ you mean the theme-wise?

music-wise is it is more HURTS inspired to me.

Well both sorta, but mostly theme-wise yes. I can for sure hear a little HURTS there too, but I think since Cristal is a bit older (read somewhere he was 40) I suppose that Bowie could be one of his inspirations as an artist (together with many other artists and groups I am sure of). Also I think HURTS, and many others british groups is in one way or another inspired by David Bowie to begin with. :mrgreen:

pinkchiffon
15th January 2016, 01:54
I have mixed opinions about Cristal Snow's entry. I really appreciate the effort of entering with a love song that identifies the recipient as being the same gender as the singer. I've said before that I find it disturbing how ESC is generalized as a gay thing and yet openly LGBT+ performers are few and far between, and explicitly gay songs are even rarer (you may get one in a selection every few years, but I don't think one has even made it to ESC before?) However, I think Cristal Snow's lyrics are rather immature, heavy-handed and maybe even outdated. If it were a serious portrayal of the internalized guilt and alienation one feels when persecuted for being gay, I would admire that, and if it were a happy pride anthem, I would admire that. But those themes are mixed in an uncomfortable way and he comes off as sounding like he thinks he is being a lot more taboo and edgy than he is (please correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think religious guilt was a big part of society in Finland :confused:)

julien4ESC
15th January 2016, 09:13
I think RAFAELA TRUDA: “Rise Up” will win. Just have a look on the number of view on Youtube compared to the other songs ! :o

Mattan
15th January 2016, 09:44
I think RAFAELA TRUDA: “Rise Up” will win. Just have a look on the number of view on Youtube compared to the other songs ! :o

That's solely because a popular tabloid ran an article about Rise Up possibly plagiarizing Ariana Grande. Of course, all publicity is good publicity, but staring at the number of views is pointless.

Yoozek
15th January 2016, 11:48
In the "Draamaa" video, in the ending - the dancing was NOT the thing I was expecting for them to do with her. Life, what have you done to me.

Saari. He must win this time. This song is perfect!

sharkan
15th January 2016, 15:56
Saari. He must win this time. This song is perfect!

+1
This.

Knubelznarm
15th January 2016, 16:29
Listened to all songs on Spotify. Without any knowledge on the artists, I enjoyed "Blazing Fire", "Love Is Blind", "Shamppanjataivas" and definitely "Theif".

"No Fear" sounds like the winner to me, but I wouldn't bet on it.

EscGeek
15th January 2016, 21:57
I like Barbe-Q-Barbies so much i checked out their other work..
I especially love "STFU" and "Twisted Little Sister"
xheat

sharkan
16th January 2016, 01:15
Is it a betting company?
https://www.veikkaushuone.com/betting?o ... ce=twitter (https://www.veikkaushuone.com/betting?om_r=ZmVfY291bnRyeT9zcG9ydD0zNCZjb2RlPTY4&btag=a_12131b_6356&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

If so then:

1. Mikael Saari - 3.00
2. Annica Milan and Kimmo Blom - 4.50
3. Cristal Snow - 5.00
4. Saara Aalto - 5.00
5. Pää-Äijät - 6.50
6. Lieminen - 7.00
7 . Sandhja - 11.0
8. Barbe-Q-Barbies - 15.00
9. Eini - 15.00
10. Gušani Brothers - 19.00
11. Ylona - 19.00
12. Rafaela Truda - 23.00
13. ClemSo - 36.00
14. Attention 2 - 41.00
15. Stella Christine - 41.00
16. Mikko Herranen - 56.00
17. Pietarin Spektaakkeli - 56.00
18. Tuuli Okkonen - 56.00

Schlagerman1
16th January 2016, 01:19
I have mixed opinions about Cristal Snow's entry. I really appreciate the effort of entering with a love song that identifies the recipient as being the same gender as the singer. I've said before that I find it disturbing how ESC is generalized as a gay thing and yet openly LGBT+ performers are few and far between, and explicitly gay songs are even rarer (you may get one in a selection every few years, but I don't think one has even made it to ESC before?) However, I think Cristal Snow's lyrics are rather immature, heavy-handed and maybe even outdated. If it were a serious portrayal of the internalized guilt and alienation one feels when persecuted for being gay, I would admire that, and if it were a happy pride anthem, I would admire that. But those themes are mixed in an uncomfortable way and he comes off as sounding like he thinks he is being a lot more taboo and edgy than he is (please correct me if I'm wrong, but I didn't think religious guilt was a big part of society in Finland :confused:)

I can understand that Cristals lyrics are on the borderline to become naive, but for me it works totally. I think that guilt for being homosexual is something that always excisted, even today whether it is religious or other reasons for it. I think the heaven or hell and the jesus similarity for example is a smart way to show both how it was when Cristal was young (and before it), but also has a showing of how gay guilt looks like today. If we look just in Finlands case, it is indeed one of the best countries in the world when it comes to gay rights, but even if it is so, it is never easy. This is Finland from a swedish viewpoint, so finns can correct me if I am wrong, but Finland is a complex country with a mixture of Finnish, Swedish (mostly in bigger cities and swedish border) and Russian (mostly around the russian border) culture. Finland is very similar to Sweden when it comes to gay rights (in some parts even better than us) but I think that the finnish society can differ alot from ours. In Finland it might be for example so that men has to be in a certain way, more manly sorta say, something that has been more lost here in Sweden.
Also prejudice and even hatred of gays exists and will never be fully gone I suppose (Sweden for example also has it, not on the surface, but in the mists there are always people that has problem with certain kinds of people). I am not religious (I would say I am sort of christian, but also atheist at the same time, can explain that more an another time perhaps) and I have felt a lot of guilt for my homosexuality, especially when I was young.

In my teenage years I never come to terms with it, and became so confused that I just decided to not even try to find out what I liked. Nothing happened until I was 21 (I am 25 today) and shortly after my father had died, then I finally understood that I might like guys...and actually felt okay with doing it. But I do still have some fears, despite living in Scandinavia. I rarely holds my boyfriends hand in public, not even kiss him on the cheek and when hugging there are shorter hugs. Even if I have the law on my side, I still feel like I have to think twice before showing my love for him in public. I don't know if that is guilt or not, but I think that many gays are still feeling it, maybe not in the same amount as in pre 2000, but a little I think. But it is a really interesting thing to discuss, the guilt of homosexuals in Europe, which I think is stronger than we think and maybe this song can help out some of the young kids out there that has a strong feeling to someone of the same gender, to feel proud about it. :)

Yoozek
16th January 2016, 01:29
Is it a betting company?
https://www.veikkaushuone.com/betting?o ... ce=twitter (https://www.veikkaushuone.com/betting?om_r=ZmVfY291bnRyeT9zcG9ydD0zNCZjb2RlPTY4&btag=a_12131b_6356&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

If so then:

1. Mikael Saari

Yaaay xheya

Palkin
16th January 2016, 11:51
This year Finland is interesting.

SAARA AALTO: “No Fear” This is good, this is tasty. 9/10
MIKKO HERRANEN: “Evil Tone” Hate songs are similar to that. 2/10
STELLA CHRISTINE: “Ain’t Got Time For Boys” Like in bar. 5/10
EINI: “Draamaa” Quite good dance, girl like Shirley Clamp. 7/10
CLEMSO: “Thief” Oh My God. 0/10
PÄÄ-ÄIJÄT: “Shamppanjataivas” Cover to En Godt Stekt Pizza. 8.5/10
ATTENTION 2: “Ready For The Show” So childish. 7.5/10
CRISTAL SNOW: “Love Is Blind” Great song with great videoclip! 9/10
ANNICA MILÁN & KIMMO BLOM: “Good Enough” Good Enough. 8/10
RAFAELA TRUDA: “Rise Up” Tasty again, easy-listening. 8.5/10
YLONA: “Blazing Fire” From the beginning of 2000s, great. 9.5/10
MIKAEL SAARI: “On It Goes” Is this favourite? I don't think so. Cover to Monster Like Me. 6/10
LIEMINEN: “Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat” Russian has a word "deshevka", means cheap-smth. About this song. 4/10
TUULI OKKONEN: “Don’t Wake Me Up” Absolutelu amazing. Faboulos. GREAT, GREAT, GREAT. 10/10
GUŠANI BROTHERS: “Poom Poom” Make me unsee his face, but cool song. 8/10
BARBE-Q-BARBIES: “Let Me Out” Primitive. 3/10
PIETARIN SPEKTAAKKELI: “Liian kuuma” They say, @№$%&. 0/10
SANDHJA: “Sing It Away” Primitive too. 5/10

sharkan
16th January 2016, 13:37
From Cristal Snow's rehearsal

https://www.facebook.com/cristalsnowofficial/videos/10153195291252062/?video_source=pages_finch_main_video

SpZ
16th January 2016, 22:19
I think that this UMK is really weak and there are no real standout songs. I think I will throw my support behind BBQ Barbies and Cristal Snow.

eerik
17th January 2016, 03:19
Gave all the entries a listen.

"Samppanjataivas" stood out for its pure and genuine feel-good emotion.
"Ready for the Show" is kind of cute and innocent.
"Liian kuuma" is borderline okay.

The rest range from mediocre to terrible. Disappointing.

sharkan
17th January 2016, 13:42
^ those songs bascially are at the bottom of my ranking :P

Mrm
17th January 2016, 16:48
EINI is from the other planet!

These gifs are UNREAL!

EINI go to Stockholm!! xyes xyes xyes

I feel she can make a mess in the scoreboard in Stockholm, comes May, 12s from all around Europe (and Australia) will come like a summer rain and hit that wonderful Finnish entry like a storm!! xlove xheart

EINI is wonderful! :)

Nikkita
17th January 2016, 17:49
I really like Cristal Snow since Killing Me, i was expecting a dark song from him but Love is Blind is such a warm love song. It all comes down to the staging to me. 8\10
On It Goes is a beautiful ballad but the lyrics are kind of... cliche :? 8\10
Good Enough looks perfect to me. 9\10
No Fear could be an anthem for European girls wearing bindis, thinking of going to Goa and talking about how different they are. But not for me. 6\10.
Draamaa is a good schlager with modern elements, i like it. 7\10
Don't Wake Me Up is a good powerballad but nothing less. 6\10
Poom Poom is classic Eastern European summer hit sh*t. No. 1\10
Let Me Out would be great in Eurovision but i don't think they would win when there already are two powerful songs (Good Enough and On It Goes). However i always loved me some girl power. 8\10
Blazing Fire is so early 2000s and Ylona is such a beautiful woman! Love it. 8\10
Sing It Away begins very powerful but the chorus is just meh. 6\10.
Liian Kuuma is a different attempt, however it sounds very similar to me. There can be a lawsuit against this song :lol: 5\10
Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat is a great synth song. I might be the only person liking this but i don't give a darn. 9\10
Ain’t Got Time For Boys...ugh why there is so much country music in Eurovision? 5\10
Evil Tone is so 80s and not in a nice way. 1\10
I have only thing to say for Let Me Go...EUROPEAN MEGHAN TRAINORS! :lol: 1\10
Prob...I mean Rise Up, how this is allowed? 1\10
Thief is a mediocre but nice song, loved his accent :lol: 5\10
Shamppanjataivas would make people smile a bit, but that's all. 4\10
Overall, my top 5 would be: Good Enough
On It Goes
Love Is Blind
Let Me Out
Pehmeiden arvojen vaalijat

pinkchiffon
18th January 2016, 06:34
Is it a betting company?
https://www.veikkaushuone.com/betting?o ... ce=twitter (https://www.veikkaushuone.com/betting?om_r=ZmVfY291bnRyeT9zcG9ydD0zNCZjb2RlPTY4&btag=a_12131b_6356&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

If so then:

1. Mikael Saari - 3.00
2. Annica Milan and Kimmo Blom - 4.50
3. Cristal Snow - 5.00
4. Saara Aalto - 5.00
5. Pää-Äijät - 6.50
6. Lieminen - 7.00
7 . Sandhja - 11.0
8. Barbe-Q-Barbies - 15.00
9. Eini - 15.00
10. Gušani Brothers - 19.00
11. Ylona - 19.00
12. Rafaela Truda - 23.00
13. ClemSo - 36.00
14. Attention 2 - 41.00
15. Stella Christine - 41.00
16. Mikko Herranen - 56.00
17. Pietarin Spektaakkeli - 56.00
18. Tuuli Okkonen - 56.00

Does anybody know how Siru's odds looked at this time last year?

ZoboCamel
18th January 2016, 08:39
Does anybody know how Siru's odds looked at this time last year?

Can't find a full & exact list of odds, but looking through the comments section from ESCTips on their UMK prediction article from last year, she was ranging from 17 to 25 depending on the site and the date. Apparently the favourites at roughly this point (ie. before any live performances) were PKN @ 1.75, Solju @ 3.5 and Satin Circus @ 7.

Even if we assume that the favourite will win again, though, that doesn't necessarily mean that Saari's the one to beat (unfortunately). For whatever reason, the odds linked above are quite different from most other sites: the screenshot below seems to more accurately reflect the majority of betting agencies.

http://puu.sh/mzYBE/c7769ad5c9.png

It's hard to see a clear, super-favourite based on that... when 7-8 songs have odds below 10/1, it's got to be a pretty close year. I'm still hoping for Saari, but I could easily imagine quite a few other acts winning (Barbe-Q-Barbies, Pää-Äijät, Annica & Kimmo, Saara Aalto and Rafaela Truda, in particular).

sharkan
18th January 2016, 12:35
Siru's odds are irrelevant as she was only fan favouirite.

Regarding 2016, Pää-Äijät are that high for one reasons - PKN. I don't think people will go for it this time. They are not fornt runners on youtube or Spotify. Same with the poll at Iltalehti. There Saara Aalto is the number 1.
Therefore I would consider her as favourite to win. I am also surprised to see Barbe-Q-Barbies doing that well in Betfair (I am glad because I like their song). Cristal Snow will destroy his song with live performance.

In 2013 Mikael Saari started gaining support just after the semi-final. Still He is not known in Finland so his odds are not surprising for me (Betfair, Unibet).

busybee
18th January 2016, 14:05
For me, Mikael Saari should win this. He had been robbed a few yrs ago, in my opinion, so, I hope Finland sends his this time...and get a top 10 :D

If not, I really like Good Enough.

That's it.

ZoboCamel
18th January 2016, 16:10
Regarding 2016, Pää-Äijät are that high for one reasons - [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Lucida Grande]PKN. I don't think people will go for it this time. They are not fornt runners on youtube or Spotify.

Hoping you're right here; I don't dislike their song, but there's better stuff in UMK this year and I'd like to see Finland finally choose one of the songs I want them to send. They've got a great NF most years but somehow they always end up going with the polar opposites of my tastes.

One thing worth noting, though - I think I remember seeing that Pää-Äijät were in the Finnish charts at the moment (something like #36) with their UMK song, while no other entries were in the top 100. It's entirely likely that they could flop live, or that the support they've got going on the charts just won't transfer to UMK, but I wouldn't entirely write them off yet.

I only really started following NFs in late 2013; in fact, I've got Saari to thank for that, since seeing the injustice of him losing out made me wonder what other great songs didn't make it past their NF. I'll take your word on it that he gained after the semis, then; hopefully that happens again! So far his song's the only one from any NF that I think deserves to win Eurovision this year, it's one of the few I'd give a 12-point rating to, and I've listened to it twice as much as any other 2016 NF song... I'd love to see him end up at Eurovision to make up for three years ago. I'll try not to get my hopes up, though - Finland's probably got the worst track record of any Eurovision country when it comes to choosing songs I like in their NF.

sharkan
18th January 2016, 18:07
One thing worth noting, though - I think I remember seeing that Pää-Äijät were in the Finnish charts at the moment (something like #36) with their UMK song, while no other entries were in the top 100.

When I was looking I saw three other entries on itunes

#36 Eini
#78 Mikael Saari
#83 Annica Milan & Kimmo Blom

But you know that it is irrelevant unless you are in top 10 because #36 means 11 purchases and the whole top 100/200 changes after each 24 hours.





I only really started following NFs in late 2013; in fact, I've got Saari to thank for that, since seeing the injustice of him losing out made me wonder what other great songs didn't make it past their NF. I'll take your word on it that he gained after the semis, then; hopefully that happens again! So far his song's the only one from any NF that I think deserves to win Eurovision this year, it's one of the few I'd give a 12-point rating to, and I've listened to it twice as much as any other 2016 NF song... I'd love to see him end up at Eurovision to make up for three years ago. I'll try not to get my hopes up, though - Finland's probably got the worst track record of any Eurovision country when it comes to choosing songs I like in their NF.

I don't think Mikael Saari is capable to win ESC but he may be in top 10-15.
I have the same problem despite Finland being my favourite country. I happened only once that they select my favourite - 2007. In 2006 and 2014 they selected my #2. 2013 was my #3. 2008 and 2010 were in my top5.
Therefore I am mentally preparing for Saara Aalto :P But I hope Mikael Saari will slay after all/

Arv
19th January 2016, 00:00
Safari needs a much better performance than in 2013 to win. I loved that song but the performance was just totally boring. This year his song is great too, but not as great. Sorry.

Draamaa is awesome btw. ;)

sharkan
19th January 2016, 00:04
^ True is performance was very typical for a ballad in 2013.

I think we should not worry about that. Elias Koskimies is a director this year of all performances (just like in 2015).
http://ilkar.blogspot.se/2014/10/esc-2015-finland-elias-koskimies-in-umk.html

Kaz
20th January 2016, 01:58
I just listened to all the songs again, and I can safely say, WHAT THE HELL, FINLAND?
UMK this year is amazing. I dare say it's even better than Eesti Laul, and I adore Eesti Laul. Out of the 18 songs, I only dislike 3 of them. Additionally, I really wouldn't be fussed if any of the songs in my top 12 won. Good luck Finland, you better make the right choice this time.

Finnish friends, please vote for Annica & Kimmo (their song is my number one), ClemSO or Ylona (because I love their songs too, but I'm afraid they won't get much love from the public). You have to vote for them. It's the law.

Schlagerman1
21st January 2016, 03:33
I don't know if anyone else noticed it, but I saw comments to Rafaela Trudas song that the video contains several reactments of old paintings and photos!
Here is the ones that was written in a few of the comments:

0:09
http://www.illusionsgallery.com/Wounded-angel-L.jpg

0:19
http://www.canvasreplicas.com/images/Liberty%20Leading%20the%20People%20Eugene%20Delacr oix.jpg

0:53
http://www.1st-art-gallery.com/thumbnail/353783/1/Nina-Tocando-El-Tambor-$28girl-Playing-A-Drum$29.jpg

1:28
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRLYJyB0XSi4juzwSOIguTIoeUgv1DPA vhg-7ONwf6JU7dVwDzG

1:47
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRzlmbSIzCZpFyCi0StwVtjnZdWGi_VW q3owTULpGdfBdKw9sNTDA

2:07
http://www.blog.dcart.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/dora_maar_portrait_of_picasso_1936.jpg

2:23
http://www.jacqueslouisdavid.org/Napoleon-Crossing-the-Alps.jpg

2:42
http://static.karar.com/img/682x350/16-01/04/1-1451922867.jpg


I suppose there are more in it that I or the comments hasn't seen yet. Take a look at the video now! I absolutely adore artists that is 100% into what to achieve when it comes to being an performer or artist, and also who gives us signs of inspiration and making us as viewers think once or twice, making us gasp with amazement or horror (as it is when it comes to the reconstruction of the last picture, first you think "WTF" but then you must think that it is a way to make us remind it, and the crazy idea and the bold move is making me laugh). Good job, and looking forward seeing what she can do live! :mrgreen:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idaJJsjXbXY

ZoboCamel
21st January 2016, 05:19
I don't know if anyone else noticed it, but I saw comments to Rafaela Trudas song that the video contains several reactments of old paintings and photos!

Huh, that's actually a pretty cool idea for a music video. The song itself is probably my biggest guilty pleasure of the NF too. Will be interested to see how she stages it live.

ZoboCamel
21st January 2016, 07:21
Okay, so boredom just drove me to make some in-depth predictions for the national finals based on YouTube data. I went through all 18 songs uploaded on the official UMK channel, looking at the the view count, likes and dislikes, and comment count as my raw data, then did some basic calculations and threw the numbers together to rate a song's chances of success based on five different areas. Those are:


Views: Quite simply, how many people have looked up the song as a result of pre-contest hype?
Likes: How many people have shown that they like the song, and how many supporters will it have going into the contest?
Approval: Out of everybody who rated the song, what percentage liked it?
Activity: What proportion of viewers enjoyed the song enough to take action and give it a like?
Comments: How much discussion, good or bad, is surrounding the entry in the pre-live show period?


All five of these, I think, look at separate and important areas for predicting a song's popularity, and so I gave points from 1-18 to all songs in each area, then added these points to determine an overall prediction list, which is as follows:

https://i.imgur.com/twN4aCE.png

Before I try to draw any other conclusions from it, I'll note that there are some obvious errors in trying to predict things this way. In particular, this pre-contest YouTube audience may be quite different from the audience of Finnish televoters who will determine the result: it likely includes a lot of international views, a lot of ESC fans, and tends towards a younger demographic. The prediction chart doesn't take into account any overlap between genres, or what may result from that; perhaps the more prominent genres here, ie. dance songs and power ballads, may split the votes within their genres, leaving fans of alternative music to focus their votes on a smaller number of songs. Finally, it's impossible, of course, to take the staging potential or live performances of the entries into account until they're performed, which may make a large difference.

However, we're still left with a large data set on a range of areas for all of the songs, and I thought it'd be interesting to whip up this chart to see more concrete figures to make predictions with, rather than trying to base things on a few comments here and there. I don't think the results are particularly surprising; the top four contenders score-wise seem to be those most widely-discussed online, while the lower-ranked entries are generally dismissed in predictions (with the exception of Lieminen's entry, which has inexplicably short odds on some betting sites). Saara and Cristal seem to have the most attention on them from a wider audience at the moment, though the Approval and Activity columns show that Saari, plus Annica & Kimmo, are the best at gaining fans from those who do actually see them, which is arguably the more important quality in a national final setting, where all acts are viewed equally. Additionally, Saari's large comment count suggests that either those who view the song react in some significant way, or that he has an ardent group of fans, either of which should help him to earn votes.

Setting aside the top four, I think the stats show three clear dark horses also in the running. Pää-Äijät have got a lot of views and likes relative to their overall position, indicating a controversial love-or-hate entry, which seemed to help the 2013 and 2015 UMK winners. On the other hand, Barbe-Q-Barbies haven't received significant attention in terms of direct views, but are generally met with a high approval rating, and should stand out given the lack of other rock songs in the national final. Finally, Rafaela Truda's video statistics are difficult to analyse, as most of her views and dislikes seem to have resulted from a plagiarism controversy of some kind. While the topic may be negative, it's still given her a lot of exposure, popularised her song, and gotten people talking, which - with a catchy earworm of a song like hers - may conversely help her.

Given all of the above, I'll make the following prediction for Top 7:

Mikael Saari: “On It Goes”
Saara Aalto: “No Fear”
Annica Milán & Kimmo Blom: “Good Enough”
Barbe-Q-Babies: “Let Me Out”
Cristal Snow: “Love Is Blind”
Rafaela Truda: “Rise Up”
Pää-Äijät: “Shamppanjataivas”


I've never been great at predicting NFs, and I'm probably way off this time as well; I feel like my bias towards Saari may have made this chart a little too optimistic for me. Still, I enjoyed working on that for the last couple hours, and I'm curious to see if anybody agrees or disagrees. Any thoughts?

Joni
21st January 2016, 09:38
^ That is what I call great scientific ESC research!

SpZ
21st January 2016, 15:56
Listened a bit more to this nf and it seems to be not as weak as I thought before. My list of favourites has expanded to the following 5 in random order: Mikael Saari, Barbe-Q-Babies, Cristal Snow, Pää-Äijät, Attention 2. Seems like all of those other than attention 2 are ought to do rather well :)

ZoboCamel
21st January 2016, 17:10
My own list of favourites is probably something like:
1. Mikael Saari - On It Goes
2. Saara Aalto - No Fear
3. Rafaela Truda - Rise Up
4. Clemso - Thief
5. Annica & Kimmo - Good Enough

I think most of them should at least end with a decent position (ie. in the top half of the selection), probably with the exception of Clemso, whose song I seem to like more than other people do. One way or another, though, I'm actually quite impressed by Finland's NF this year; this might be the highest ratio of songs I've liked in any national final over the last few years, with the possible exception of a Melfest year or two. I'm usually pretty harsh with NFs, only liking 10-20% of songs enough to put them on my playlists, but here I quite enjoy 10 out of the 18, and there's nothing I really hate. This is where I'm tempted to say something like 'hopefully I'll want to support Finland at Eurovision this year', but considering that it's felt like the entire population of Finland is determined to spite me and ignore all my favourite songs in recent years, I... should probably refrain from being so optimistic for now.

Ringdalen
21st January 2016, 23:07
Here are my top 10 out of all the Uuden Musiikin Kilpailu songs xheat :D

Would appreciate if some of you could check it out and tell me if you agree with the list or not :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo8T0_SfZm4

Joni
22nd January 2016, 10:37
Here are my top 10 out of all the Uuden Musiikin Kilpailu songs xheat :D

Would appreciate if some of you could check it out and tell me if you agree with the list or not :D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo8T0_SfZm4

Well, I have all of those in my top 10 except numbers 5, 2 and 1. Choosing Pää-Äijät would be another PKN for us.

Joni
22nd January 2016, 11:04
Btw, what the heck is wrong with this forum nowadays? It is slow as hell and after you have posted it always doesn't show your post right away. It was nothing like this last year. Or am I the only one that has this problem?

ZoboCamel
22nd January 2016, 12:41
Btw, what the heck is wrong with this forum nowadays? It is slow as hell and after you have posted it always doesn't show your post right away. It was nothing like this last year. Or am I the only one that has this problem?

Might just be you? At the very least, I haven't noticed any particular issues as of late.

As for Pää-Äijät - they're not the act I want to see Finland choose, but they're stil far, far ahead of PKN in my opinion. Yeah, their song's cheesy and nothing amazing, but it's fun, catchy and has a melody of some kind. PKN were pretty much dead last in my list for last year; Pää-Äijät would be, in an average year, maybe 15th or 20th? Still, I'd prefer to see you guys choose Mikael, who may well be my #1, or a couple others who'd likely be in my top 10-15. Seriously though, us Aussies can vote now! Send Mikael, and if nothing else, I'll reward you guys with votes! :lol:

Ringdalen
22nd January 2016, 14:12
Well, I have all of those in my top 10 except numbers 5, 2 and 1.

Thanks for the feedback :D Fun to hear how my favorites are ranked amongst others. We seem to enjoy many of the same songs, so thats fun :)

I was actually not a big fan of ¨Blazing Fire¨ when i first heard it, but now I am hooked on it. :D So it got a lot higher on the list, than I thought it would last week. Thats one of the reasons why I wanted to wait with making a list, because I wanted to make sure these where my 10 favorites. There was never a question if Paa-Aijat would be my first place, but I understand why many do not like it or think it should win.

ZoboCamel
22nd January 2016, 14:50
Was browsing the other Eurovision forums for once, and somebody in their Finnish thread said they're going to have international online voting again this year - and this time it'll be free! Only thing is, you need to make an account first, and apparently can't do so during the live shows. Link is here if anybody's interested to sign up in preparation and try to push Finland towards a less-bad choice for once. (http://tunnus.yle.fi/koti) It's in Finnish, but I got through just fine using Google Translate.

Joni
23rd January 2016, 00:42
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iv2oFWC1Ak

sharkan
23rd January 2016, 03:27
Well, Saara is flawless vocally. This was obvious. But her dress. She'd better not use this one in her UMK performance.

sigi
29th January 2016, 19:41
epic xheart xheart


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnVmDdLKuhE

Mrm
29th January 2016, 22:41
Eini is simply MAGICA!! xlove xheart

If she doesn't take the trophy I will kill somebody!!

Combination of 80s music and dubstep together with her sharp vocal and fantastic Finnish language gives me goosebumps!!

Eini go to Stockholm! xyes

QwaarJet
29th January 2016, 22:44
Eini is simply MAGICA!! xlove xheart

If she doesn't take the trophy I will kill somebody!!

Combination of 80s music and dubstep together with her sharp vocal and fantastic Finnish language gives me goosebumps!!

Eini go to Stockholm! xyes

I guess the song isn't terrible, but Mikael Saari for me.

Kaz
30th January 2016, 09:43
OK, so I watched 17 different YouTube vids of people's tops (plus my own opinion) and tallied up the points.

01 - Mikael Saari // 154 pts
02 - Annica & Kimmo // 142 pts
03 - Saara Aalto // 125 pts
04 - Ylona // 82 pts
05 - Tuuli Okkonen // 79 pts
06 - Barbe-Q-Barbies // 75 pts
07 - Cristal Snow // 66 pts
08 - Sandhja // 56 pts
09 - Rafaela Truda // 53 pts
10 - Gusani Bros // 42 pts
11 - Eini // 35 pts
12 - Clemso // 30 pts
13 - Stella Christine // 28 pts
14 - Paa-Aijat // 23 pts
15 - Mikko Herranen // 20 pts
16 - Pietarin Spektaakkeli // 12 pts
17= - Attention 2 // 11 pts
17= - Lieminen // 11 pts

Discuss.

Sochiara
30th January 2016, 16:07
Ok hands down, it has to be Mikael Saari x12s His song is simply amazing. There's no other option for me since I'm not fond of any of those other songs...

Joni
31st January 2016, 00:12
Was browsing the other Eurovision forums for once, and somebody in their Finnish thread said they're going to have international online voting again this year - and this time it'll be free! Only thing is, you need to make an account first, and apparently can't do so during the live shows. Link is here if anybody's interested to sign up in preparation and try to push Finland towards a less-bad choice for once. (http://tunnus.yle.fi/koti) It's in Finnish, but I got through just fine using Google Translate.

This voting for the 1st semi will begin at 1100 CET on Monday.

SpZ
31st January 2016, 02:10
OK, so I watched 17 different YouTube vids of people's tops (plus my own opinion) and tallied up the points.

01 - Mikael Saari // 154 pts
02 - Annica & Kimmo // 142 pts
03 - Saara Aalto // 125 pts
04 - Ylona // 82 pts
05 - Tuuli Okkonen // 79 pts
06 - Barbe-Q-Barbies // 75 pts
07 - Cristal Snow // 66 pts
08 - Sandhja // 56 pts
09 - Rafaela Truda // 53 pts
10 - Gusani Bros // 42 pts
11 - Eini // 35 pts
12 - Clemso // 30 pts
13 - Stella Christine // 28 pts
14 - Paa-Aijat // 23 pts
15 - Mikko Herranen // 20 pts
16 - Pietarin Spektaakkeli // 12 pts
17= - Attention 2 // 11 pts
17= - Lieminen // 11 pts

Discuss.

you watched people with very mainstream escfan taste

ZoboCamel
31st January 2016, 03:20
This voting for the 1st semi will begin at 1100 CET on Monday.

Monday as in the upcoming Monday, ie. the first of Feb? I thought the SF didn't start until a week later? :confused:

Joni
31st January 2016, 10:46
Monday as in the upcoming Monday, ie. the first of Feb? I thought the SF didn't start until a week later? :confused:

1 Feb. The 1st semi is on 6 Feb

sharkan
31st January 2016, 11:56
My impressions after the pre-show

Cristal Snow is terrible live! I am not worry that he will at all.

I am quite surprised to see Mikael Saari in people's voting that high actually. How about Saara Aalto? I am suprised that in public voting is not even in top 5 (it is a popularity measure after all).

However I am happy that this year in the pre-show my favourites where high either in the panel or public voting (Saari, BQB and Sandhja)

GlamSIMorous
31st January 2016, 12:13
Really weirded out that they see Cristal Snow that high :O

sharkan
31st January 2016, 12:36
He was clearly hyped during this show but I doubt it will have a significant effect in the end.

pinkchiffon
31st January 2016, 18:53
I thought they were voting based on the music videos yesterday, in which case I agree, it is a fantastic music video in terms of aesthetics and atmosphere. But the music videos aren't going to matter once the live shows start and things will undoubtedly change.

I don't think Annica and Kimmo are going to be convincing live, and I'm surprised the music video was even that popular. Actually, Annica seems fine. Kimmo is completely uncharismatic and creepy, which may have been funny when he was Angelo de Nile, but playing a romantic lead... I'll believe it when I see it.

sharkan
1st February 2016, 00:32
That was the aim - to vote for the video but I find it totally pointless because people will still vote for the name/or at best song which they like.

Fred
1st February 2016, 00:58
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBI9eq6qdd9/

:o

ZoboCamel
1st February 2016, 01:58
https://www.instagram.com/p/BBI9eq6qdd9/

:o

Hard to judge from that short snippet, but at least it seems she won't be a trainwreck live. Which makes me happy, because despite being a guilty pleasure, Rise Up is probably my third favourite from this year's UMK (after Mikael and Saara).

Joni
1st February 2016, 12:19
It is going to be 50-50 voting in the final this year (televoting-juries). The semifinals are 100% televoting.

And the online voting is already open, you can give 1 free vote until Thursday evening. During the show you can buy 5 or 10 vote packages. (5 or 10 euros)

sharkan
1st February 2016, 15:29
I am glad that ther will be 50% jury voting.

Nikkita
1st February 2016, 15:59
I am glad that ther will be 50% jury voting.
But their decision can be to the detriment of a good song such as Las Vegas being chosen by the jury instead of Hall Om Mig in Melodifestivalen 2005.

Kaz
1st February 2016, 22:54
you watched people with very mainstream escfan taste

They were just the first ones that showed up in my YouTube search, haha!

sharkan
1st February 2016, 23:03
But their decision can be to the detriment of a good song such as Las Vegas being chosen by the jury instead of Hall Om Mig in Melodifestivalen 2005.

a) Tastes of juries varies across countries and over time
b) We don't know the structure of juries in UMK's final. We know that there will be several different jury groups;.

SpZ
1st February 2016, 23:50
They were just the first ones that showed up in my YouTube search, haha!

Yeah, exactly that. They are far away from the Finnish voter.

SpZ
1st February 2016, 23:53
a) Tastes of juries varies across countries and over time
b) We don't know the structure of juries in UMK's final. We know that there will be several different jury groups;.

Indeed, for example the Estonian juries are usually rather good (eg Winny Puhh ranked 3rd in jury voting in Eesti Laul, the Estonian jury managed to place Sanna Nielsen only 4th in mf, etc), so there is hope for Finland as well.

Yoozek
2nd February 2016, 03:19
I don't care about how the jury gonna work or mix with people votes as long as they put Mikael on 1st place :3

ZoboCamel
4th February 2016, 06:51
Assuming this is a rehearsal snippet, I'm suddenly very excited to see Pää-äijät's live performance.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBVUkKps7Ou/

ZoboCamel
4th February 2016, 06:55
Also: never before have I seen a dress which shouts 'COSTUME REVEAL!' as loudly as Saara Aalto's. :lol:

http://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/fl_keep_iptc,q_80/w_573,h_859,c_crop,x_150,y_0/u_17-4582356b0b3c5c9636,a_hflip,e_pixelate,e_blur:2000, w_700,h_1049,c_fill/v1454420979/17-4582356b0b3c5c9636.jpg

EscGeek
4th February 2016, 20:52
I already memorized the lyrics of "let me out"

the song is perfect!xlove

Jasi
5th February 2016, 16:46
My fingers are crossed for Mikael Saari. Very beautiful, unique song. Also loved his entry back in 2013. It was so much better than "Marry Me". He really deserves to win this time with "On It Goes".
I also would like to hear "Good Enough" at Eurovision. Cute, uplifting song :) But Mikael's my winner xlove

sharkan
5th February 2016, 18:07
Sandhja live acapella performance: https://www.facebook.com/SandhjaOfficial/videos/637162213091030/

She is ready to snatch some wigs!

kengaIME
5th February 2016, 19:38
I'm so glad Mikael Saari is back! Not choosing him in 2013 was one of the biggest mistakes in Eurovision selections... xcry1
On It Goes is very dramatic and has several layers, i love it.
I am just imagining this on stage!! I really hope this will represent Finland in Stockholm this year :)

sharkan
6th February 2016, 01:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLKbRvESP3s

DanielLuis
6th February 2016, 02:18
Is there a way to watch the show after it's aired? Like in Sweden, where the show is available on SVT Play.

Joni
6th February 2016, 13:10
Is there a way to watch the show after it's aired? Like in Sweden, where the show is available on SVT Play.

Hopefully this works at 20 CET

http://areena.yle.fi/1-2806994

Joni
6th February 2016, 13:11
Or this one

http://areena.yle.fi/tv/suorat/yle-tv2

Ringdalen
6th February 2016, 13:53
All I want from Eurovision this year is to see Paa-Aijat represent Finland.

I can´t wait to see them tonight. Since the performance teasers, live streams and all their previous songs just adds so much to the masterpiece Shamppanjataivas is xbow xheat

Come on Finland. xpray xcrossed

DanielLuis
6th February 2016, 16:38
Hopefully this works at 20 CET

http://areena.yle.fi/1-2806994

Thanls, but what I was asking is if it's possible to see it somewhere after the show ends. On SVT, the show is available for 2 days after the show airs, and I was asking if YLE also allows that

Joni
6th February 2016, 17:15
It should be available afterwards too.

DanielLuis
6th February 2016, 17:31
It should be available afterwards too.

Okay, thanks :)

Dante
6th February 2016, 20:55
So many to watch tonight, I'll loose my head while switching so many tabs..but by far, the most excited I'm about Finland, since last year Finland gave me my favorite contestant.

Ringdalen
6th February 2016, 21:02
Funny intro :lol:

Ringdalen
6th February 2016, 21:05
No idea what they are saying, but they seem to be doing a great job :D

Lupus
6th February 2016, 21:08
Ringdalen... link? The ESCUnited one is not working for me!

Ringdalen
6th February 2016, 21:09
Ringdalen... link? The ESCUnited one is not working for me!

http://areena.yle.fi/tv/suorat/yle-tv2

Lupus
6th February 2016, 21:11
You're amazing Ole! xlove

Ringdalen
6th February 2016, 21:12
You're amazing Ole! xlove

xlove xrunhug

ZoboCamel
6th February 2016, 21:14
Nice stage act from Saara, but the vocals weren't exactly great.

Ringdalen
6th February 2016, 21:15
That song is so much better live :D

Great start to a great night xheart